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>>41708119
Reported for spam.

>>41708137
>he played pokemon after the first generation

hey guys check this out

>>41708167
What the fuck?
He got up right away?

It's your fault for shitting all over Iron Man and Wolverine, MadHouse.
Maybe if you went back to animating interesting shows, you would be a bit better money-wise.

I love both MadHouse and SHAFT, by the way.

>>41708209
Like a boss

>>41708167
how the fuck?!

>>41708155
>he didn't play gold/silver

>>41708215
Marvel paid them to do those fucktard.
I'm sick of you assholes bringing that up.
Those anime weren't good anyway

>>41708119
OP is a faggot.

Moe wins. Go home haters, your time is over.

>>41708167
Bike HP
>350/1000

Chinese guy HP
>97/100

Reported

>>41708209
>>41708237
>>41708239
The thing is, and that's not really clear in the gif, they guy is actually landing on his feet. He did a somersault and landed on his feet. Of course he fucking struggled and more or less ran, but he didn't crash to the ground.

>>41708281
moe wins, anime loses

>>41708281
>Moe wins. Go home haters, your time is over.

You:
>An argumentum ad crumenam argument, also known as an argument to the purse, is a logical fallacy of concluding that a statement is correct because the speaker is rich (or that a statement is incorrect because the speaker is poor).

>>41708310
It's true

>>41708209
>>41708239
He probably rolled perfectly, just got a couple bruises.

>>41708310
>Implying moe shows are not best shows

>>41708309
Is he Jackie Chan?

>>41708281
>Implying half of the shows on the left aren't moe as fuck

>>41708347
Name them.
Because I think you're retarded

>>41708167

check this out

This thread again.
Is /a/ still getting trolled by it?

>>41708368
I hate that one. I hope you get hurt

/care

All whatever bullshit aside, it would really be great if there were more late-night or OVA anime that werent just masturbatory otaku pandering fetishism crap. We have seen so many cute girls doing cute things, do you think we can move on? Can we have some shows that are more than just a vehicle for porn doujins?

Yutaka Yamamoto, former KyoAni director, on the state of the anime industry:
>Nowadays, good animation doesn't good sales, most otakus barely even notice good animation quality, only sakuga fags happy to see animation
>For example, Denno Coil and Birdy: Decode sale fail to live up to sakuga fags's hype, compare to Bakemonogatari and Railgun win the Otaku market.
>Your anime is always going to end up on Youtube. We're reaching the end of being able to sell home video. We're probably going to back to toy-funded business models of past: give anime away, try to sell toys.
>The lack of originality and the desire for exclusivity by the fandom has created a highly transparent industry. Mr Yamamoto affirms that the creators and the fans are “too close.” This is the biggest reason behind the isolation of the anime industry. The creators feel too obligated to please their fans, and the fans naturally expect the creators of anime to cater to them specifically, as opposed to society at large. This negative feedback loop simply exacerbates the problem over time, and now we have an industry that has boxed itself into a dead end.

>>41708366
Casshern sins, kaiji/akgi, kaiba, texhnolyze

>check twitter comment
>no mention of KyoAni. Just stuff about money.
hmm, well it does say it was said by a MadHouse spokesman. Maybe hat specific statement isn't from Twitter.
>Google the statement.
>only /a/ threads and a forum post (clearly copypasting from /a/) come up
I see...

>>41708433
>Texhnolyze
You didn't watch it? Did you.
I'll give you Kaiba in a way and Kaiji and Akagi depend on the purpose, but when you said Texhnolyze it became obvious you're talking out of your ass.

Fake and reported again like every other time.

What is killing anime in your opinion?

>>41708500
Nothing.

>>41708454
A show can't be moe you fucking idiot, moe is not a genre. You're both talking shit.

>>41708520
You think anime is as good now as it always was?

>>41708530
I can call a show that focuses on moe, "moe" if I want.
Fuck off.

>>41708556
i can call a cat a dog, doesn't mean i'm right

>You are reporting post 41708119 on /a/.

>>41708573
OK FINE.
I define the word ome to mean shows that focus on moe.
Texhnolyze is not ome
I win

>>41708534
This year is not very good, but that doesn't mean anime is dying. Shit shows have always been produced en masse and good ones are months apart.

>>41708454
>texhnolyze isn't moe
It is, look at the character that made 95% of it, and the best part of it? You probably didn't notice it was moefying the FUCK out of you, yet it probably still left a hole in your chest by the time the series was over

Derpfag status
[X] TOLD
[X] TROAHLD
[X] BUETRANGED

>>41708606
I'll admit that 2007-2008 was great but other than that 00s pretty much sucked with the small exception being 03 maybe.
IMO the best concentration of shows were in the late 90s

>>41708119
that picture is so sad. i dont even like all those madhouse anime, but the stuff on the right is so much worse.

>>41708556
>something can focus on a subjective feeling

I don't think so.


Also this has been posted like 100 times in two days, the post is about something else entirely, Madhouse is not going bankrupt, Madhouse has even done "moe" shows, and has said they will do more of them if people come to them with shows like that they want animated.

Old as shit, also nothing in that tweet about bankruptcy.

>>41708636
I'm not posting about the OP.
Alsp people call things that focus on subjective feelings all the time.
People call shows comedy even though they don't find it funny.
But it's clear the creators intended it to be a comedy
Likewise you can call shows moe because it's clear the creators intended to invoke certain emotions

>>41708620
98-99 were very good, but I believe 2006-7 were just as great. Early 00s were indeed rather bad, but early 90s were just plain horrible. Let's just hope 2011 will be good again.

>>41708671

No you can't because it's like calling love a genre.

You are an idiot as well as anyone else who takes this thread seriously or tries to use it as a basis for their nostalgiafagging.

>>41708724
And here's yotsuba, criticizing the use of the word moe and calling other people nostalgia fags in the same post and somehow making the thread worse.
Well done.

>>41708620

>IMO the best concentration of shows were in the late 90s

Which is complete bullshit.

>>41708671
Comedy isn't a feeling, though. Its a genre.

It'd be like calling a show that you liked the characters in a "Like" show, or calling a show you could relate with the characters in a "relate" show.

>>41708724
>No you can't because it's like calling love a genre.
Worst analogy I've ever heard of in my life

>>41708751
>late 90s
>1990
Are you retarded?

>>41708751
>1990
>late 90s

>>41708770
>>41708772

Except that was intentional. I'm posting them in order.

>>41708608
A show having moe (a majority, actually) is not the same as being "moeshit" (a show whose only value is the generic "cuteness" of the characters, and has the plot/premise as an excuse to have said moeblobs, lacks anything close to character development and the humor is close to non-existant), such as K-On.

>>41708752
It's called a comedy because the creators intend to make you laugh

I can call a show moe because the creators intend to invoke certain emotions.

It's the same thing.
2ch uses the word moe to refer to those shows. The only reason /a/ doesn't want to is because people would use it to make fun of them. And that's stupid because they're going to make fun of you regardless.

>>41708770

>Worst analogy I've ever heard of in my life

Good job proving you don't understand the word moe even further

>>41708789
Like you always do, diligently ignoring the fact that it was the golden age for OVAs.

>>41708821
Good argument.

>>41708809
So basically, if it has moe and you like it, it isn't moeshit, but if it has moe and you don't like it, it is.

Cool story, bro.

>>41708809

>trying to force moeshti as a valid term against anything he doesn't like

derp

>>41708825
Still waiting on your chart for the golden age of OVAs.

>>41708843
That's not the same guy you were originally arguing with.
If you want to think Ran is moe than fine, I just really didn't.

>>41708825
Just make it yourself.

>>41708821
>Hello Kitty
>Sailor Moon
>Slam Dunk
>Mobile Suit Victory Gundam
1993, year of the decade.

>>41708825

No, the "golden age" for OVAs was the late 80s. Try again

>>41708857
Babby expects a chart? Too lazy to look shit up by yourself?

>>41708877
>>41708857
Someone started making the chart with the OVAs.
It's going to take a while since there were so many, but yeah, the 90s had a ton.

>>41708888
Babby can't make a chart? Too lazy to support your argument?

>>41708847
It's an specific category. I don't like, say, Gaogaigar, but I'm not that stupid to call it moeshit. If you think so, well, you're really naive.

>>41708884
>Yu Yu Hakusho
>Shin-chan
>original Sailor Moon
Ok nevermind, 1992 wins.

Anyone else think it's funny that Yotsuba posts these charts without comments as though we're supposed to realize that the 90s sucked by ourselves or something?
As far as I can tell they were great.

>>41708898
Oh yes, let me just rush to make a chart for an anonymous dipshit on the internet, because he demands it.

>>41708909
Moeshit is just a vague buzzword used to label things you don't like.

>>41708924
I'm waiting on it. Don't be a dipshit and fail to deliver, anon.

>>41708894

Except there are more OVAs now than there were in the 90s. If you knew anything you would know that. The difference is that now a larger majority of them are hentai OVAs.

Whenever I see these charts posted I always wonder how anime could have progressed out of the pure shit that is the 90s, filled with mostly younger kid shows. How it could have gone downhill from the 80s, although the 80s weren't that good either.

Then I came to a conclusion, everyone bitching about "hurr durr moe" should just wait another 10 years, and anime should in theory be in a completely different state from then.

>>41708942
Why would we want to include the hentai OVAs?
Of course I knew that.

>>41708921

I never try to post these charts to prove the 90s "sucked". I don't believe the 90s "sucked" because I don't look at eras like that.

>>41708909

No, that isn't a "specific category". It's a bullshit category used by people who can't make real arguments against a show and need to rely on vague buzzwords like yourself.

>>41708368
Dude, i was fucking eating.

Yotsuba℃ !!12SEFhiHDdm, from looking at those charts I think it's easy to conclude that anime hasn't gotten significantly better or worse.

>>41708928
No, it is not. Is an specific term, with clearly defined values that not all shows (whether I like them or not) fulfill.

>>41708975
Then why are you posting charts without comment?
Do you have an argument of some sort.
I'm confused, please tell me the purpose

>>41708921
>On average about 1-2 shows each year that are still relevant
>good

Seriously, you could not make a chart like this for the 90s, it just didn't have enough actually good shows.

>>41708985
Of course, that is the entire point. It's amazing how people get all defensive when they are presented with charts, sales figures or whatnot.

>>41708991
No, it is not. It is a vague buzzword, with user-defined values that are fulfilled by all the shows the user doesn't like.

>>41708975
Why are there suddnely 9000 anime airing in 1998, and why are there so many good ones?

>>41708999
>Then why are you posting charts without comment?
It's Yotsuba's usual way to "argument". Read this.

>>41708999

They are to give perspective. A more objective view of the past and present. Nostalgiafags like to depend on vague ideas of how things "used to be".

Yotsuba C, after looking at these charts I have determined that the best years in anime are 1997-1999

>>41709007
The overwhelming majority of that is shit.
Fuck off with your opinions.
The truth is you don't even recognize most of the anime on the 90s list.

You're all full of shit until i'm presented with pie charts. Pie charts damn it.

Now get the hell out of my office.

>Yotsuba4c
>the Anonymous who feed him
>the word "moe"
I am out of here

>>41709087
>implying anyone does

>>41709041

>Why are there suddnely 9000 anime airing in 199

Because it's when late night anime started to really catch on

>and why are there so many good ones?

There really aren't. Not in comparison to the larger years of the 00s with the main thing I see here is that they contain a lot of anime that were big on American TV in the early 00s.

>>41709047
That list looks better than the whole of 2010 and the second half of 2009 combined.

>>41709087
The overwhelming majority of that is decent to good.
Fuck off with you're opinions.
The truth is you don't even recognize most of the anime on the 00s list.

>>41709050

and anime from 2002 to 2010

lets face it, people tend to called 4 or 5 good shows from such decades to be the best while ignoring other names.

and yet they first watching it 3 or 10 years after that show first aired.

>>41709123
Only I do recognize all of them.
Nice try.

>>41709050

And you would have to be nostlagiafagging pretty hard to actually believe that--ignoring that 98 is the best year for TV anime of the 90s.

>>41709119
The late 90s were the golden age, remember it was the pokemon boom.

Simply compare the amount of anime that aired, and you can clearly see that many more aired in 98 than today.

>>41709007

Obviously the 2000s would have more "relevant" anime because 1) there was more anime overall and 2) the 90s are further removed in time.

Some series really don't belong on that chart. Nyan Koi and Hakaba Kitaro, for starters.

Is Madhouse really dead or is this just a troll? Does this mean no Kaiji season 2?

>>41708985

That's actually the point. There is a retarded subsection of /a/ that nostalgiafags and claims that the 80s or 90s or whenever was better than now. Because they forget all the worthless shit, and gather several years of shows for the comparison to whatever is on now. When you actually look at it, theat complaint doesn't hold any water.

>>41709152
>more shows aired in 98 than today
not sure if trolling...

>>41709151
I don't nostalgiafag.
Best years for anime were the late 90s.

>>41709150
Only I do recognize all of them.
Nice try.

>>41709128
2010 has been pretty damn poor. Anime reached its latest peak during 2007. Now it's on a recession. I wonder when it'll begin to rise again.

>>41709152

>Simply compare the amount of anime that aired, and you can clearly see that many more aired in 98 than today.

Good job pulling shit out of your ass.

>>41709177
Only you don't.
Nice try.

>>41709203
Only you don't.
Nice try.

>>41709119

What? 2000-2002 was probably a nadir for good anime. 8/10 if troll.

>>41709224
Only you don't.
Nice try.­

>>41709241
Only you don't.
Nice try.

>>41709181

its just anime, you think there are "many" so called "good shows" in the 90-95?

lets face it, anime industry is not diffrent than any TV show industry in other country.

>>41709203
>>41709224
>>41709241
>>41709251
We've entered an endless recursion of time.

>>41709262
The problem with you is that you take everything at face value and can't accept the opinions of others if it conflicts with your own.

>>41709151
Worst year posted so far.

>>41709262
Yes it has.
There are no memorable good shows.
You just don't care because you are easily impressed by shit.
I never see you make fun of a single show. Why? Because you like it all. You're like a kid that is entertained by the moving colors.
So you prefer the later years because there are more shows.

Judging by years of experience with anime fans I'd say that:

Average Moefag
Usually 20+yo, have a huge experience in anime, watched the shit out of DEEP normalfag titles years ago, now mostly watches ongoing anime for that fuzzy nghhh feeling, but not limited to it and can discuss various genres with arguments.

Average Moehater:
Normalfag, or close to it, <200 titles watched, have normalfag expectations of anime similar to movies.
OR
Underaged b& thinking that media aimed at teenagers really has deep intricate plots, and not DEEP.
Optionally: Yaoi fangirl

>>41709181

>2010 has been pretty damn poor.

It hasn't. The problem is you and other people lack the ability to appreciate things while they're in process. It's funny because people were saying the same shit back in 06 and 07 when we had the most anime ever. Then now a few years later people recognize how many great anime they had.

>>41709305
No ones even arguing about moe
What are you talking about?

>>41709304
>memorable, good shows = things I like

>>41709042
Are you the same person who insist on using the word "moetard"? You know it makes you seem stupid when you misuse terms and try to use that as a proper argument.
>He alikes K-on very much
And why the fuck do you care? Why are you bringing that up as if it would instantly "win" the debate, it's just a show for fuck's sake. And no, I didn't watch K-on so don't bother replying with "u mad moefag???"

Let people enjoy what they want, is it seriously that hard?

>>41709341
Yes, good job figuring that out.
You all do the same thing.
You think the shows today are better than they used to be.
I don't.

>>41709262
Yep, I lack the abilities to appreciate things. Thank you for suddenly knowing who I am, what I watched and what I like.
No, I never said 2007 was bad. 2007 was one of the most glorious years for TV anime, and I realized it during and after. Shit, I still have stuff left to watch from that year on my hard drive.

Deja vu

>>41709305
Pretty accurate, from what I've in most collection list is that people who watch what /a/ calls "moe" are usually the ones with the biggest collections, and almost always idorts.

One could take me for example, people always call me a "moefag" when I go to defend such shows, yet I'd say my taste are very well rounded. (This picture is kind of old though, its a little bigger now)

>>41709354
Sucks to be you, having missed the entire point of the discussion. See >>41709164>>41709009

>>41709354

carry on then. you don't need to force you opinion on to others because it won't changed anything.

wheeeeee looks like school finally let out

see you in 12 hours /a/

>>41709389
I don't you fucktard.
I said exactly "IMO anime peaked during the late 90s"
Than yotsuba raged and started posting the charts and arguing like a child.

>>41709397
>implying no time zones

>>41709411
Pop quiz: What are these charts supposed to tell us?

>>41709307
What???

I was there in 2007, everyone on /a/ agreed that it was a godly year.

>>41709411

I don't think he's mad at all.

>>41709389
See this: >>41708620
And how Yotsuba responded.

I like how when I used to be a buyfag (read: bought a bunch of DVDs and books only to realize they sit on shelves and collect dust and aren't worth shit barely anymore) everything I own is works made between 90 and 05. I think the most recent series I have is a couple volumes of Shana and Rozen Maiden. When I was going through what I wanted to sell, I kept most of the older shit that I liked, such as Lost Universe, Nadesico, and Angelic Layer.

Good times.

>>41709304

>There are no memorable good shows.
Yes, even though the oldest shows of the year have been barely finished for 6 months you somehow know how "memorable" they are.

>You just don't care because you are easily impressed by shit.
lol okay.

>I never see you make fun of a single show. Why? Because you like it all. You're like a kid that is entertained by the moving colors.
You don't know me at all. I criticize plenty of shows. That doesn't mean I need to go around trolling them all the time like some people feel the need to do.

>So you prefer the later years because there are more shows.
There other dimensions to it. It's not just about quantity. Yet quantity is important. People would never survive anime in most of the 90s compared to the height of the 00s--much of the 90s where you only have a few shows you can watch each week, and OVA releases were long and in between each episode.

>>41709434
>/a/
>agree

Excellent news. I have to admit this happened sooner than I expected.

See this haters? THIS is what the Moe lolis did to you. Remember, Moe lolis did this to YOU.

Nostalgiafags aren't Otaku nor anime fans, just pretentious normalfags wanting to act cool talking about 'culture' anime like if it is some exotic stuff just like the old Europeans talked about their Safaris on Africa. That, in order to be alpha enough to get laid.

But now what happens? They will have to talk every year about more and more prehistoric anime, proving they don't know shit about anime.

For the preservation of a pure and moe world!

>>41709445
You know a show is memorable when you finish it retard.
I've known after I've finished every show how memorable each one was.

where do you get all this chart?

chartfag blog doesn't have it all.

>>41709379

Are you me from the future with a bigger hard drive?

>>41709181

I don't think 2007 was great, but it was definitely one of the better years in the last decade. Just like everything else there is a pattern of uprise and decline in quality, and we just happen to hit a low this year.

>>41709508
Protip: What's memorable for you may not be memorable for others.

>moe anime are shit


OH I KNOW I'LL POST A LOAD OF CHARTS OF ANIME IN THE 90s THAT WILL TOTALLY PROVE THEM WRONG

That's not what the twitter message says at all.

Fucking sick of this troll spamming.

>>41709548
>moe anime
Don't start it again.

>>41709561
Welcome to 150 posts ago

Goddammit, who summoned yotsubaC?

>>41709541

that aside, this 2 years we got so many good Anime Movies.

>>41709445
The thing is, when you had to make this shit by hand, it took time, and you had time to put out something meaningful. Today everything is run on CG, it's not just Japan, the US does it too with cartoons, it's all about how fast you can sling shit into the market and hope it catches. I like some of the "moe" shows out there, but some of these series don't even have stories or plots at all, they just get thrown out there, and if the fans eat that shit up, they'll green light a second season and possibly make it worth a damn.

It's like watching NBC, in Japan.

>>41709508

It really doesn't even matter. Your vague classification of "memorable" is just a way for you to evade having to actually having give real argument. There have been plenty enjoyable shows this season.

>>41709573
You expected him to not show up to a thread were KyoAni was mentioned?

>>41709541
2010 has been decent. Spring was pretty high tier, and winter was alright.

Summer was okay.

>>41709586

> when you had to make this shit by hand
> Today everything is run on CG

Confirmed for not knowing anything about animation production.

>>41709591
Says you.
I think everything this season is shit.

>>41709636
Says you.
I think everything this season is decent.

>>41709644
OK, doesn't mean I have to think the same.
Yotsuba is trying to convince people that don't like today's shows that they are good.

>>41709644
Says you.
I think only 3-4 shows are decent.

>>41709619
>>Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends
>>Flash

Not talking about just GLORIOUS NIPPON here, kid.

you know guys, there's a different between watching anime as a normalfag and as one of /a/ subculture person.

but who am I kidding in this place that so called the "new /a/"

>>41709596

We had HSOTD as anime of the season at one point, I don't think we had a season that was as horrible as the last one.

>>41709699
Cool doubles, bro.

>>41709689
>Today everything is run on CG, it's not just Japan, the US does it too with cartoons
>everything
Come again?