>>41312060
By then, the internet already knew that Shinji wasn't really a person, but a group of 3 hotornot.com programmers who had decided to start that site. I was fine with that at the time.

But then, Strike Witches came out. I'm a Strike Witches tripfag (not tripping on this post because /a/ is not my blog), so... you know, I fucking loved it. But I had noticed how every GONZO stream in CR had a BOST watermark on the upper right corner. Upon further investigating, I met BOSTTV.com (which was the real first site to provide legal animu streams/DLs on the west, also courtesy of GONZO), and I loved the service. I eventually paid BOSTTV for Strike Witches.

I remember how BOST releases were turned into torrents in our SW threads. I also remember how BOST said that the GONZO executives were mad at it, but we still uploaded them, and I don't regret it. The guys at BOST were really cool otherwise. Like, that time when Daiz decided to check their encodes and found a fuckton of... areas of opportunity, and made a post (which was rude, but come on, it's the internet) on the BOST forum letting them know how to actually encode. And they got in touch with him for advice, and every week, their encoding improved more and more.

And then came the announcement. GDH had given CR 2 million dollars as an investment. At that time, I was happy for CR. I thought that Japan had started accepting fansubs.

... after a couple of weeks, every fansub was taken off of the site. Which sound logical, until you stop and consider something:

Tl;dr
CR is killing anime is all I understand.

>>41312085
Crunchyroll had its deals because it was a popular site. The popularity had been given to it by THE WORK OF ITS FANS (the fansubbers, the uploaders). They turned their back to what, supposedly, was the meaning of the site (a fan-driven fansub streaming site), to get money that they do not deserve. And then, they let out a communicate, to convey that "that was their plan, all along". Other companies who deserved the deals way better, like BOST, for example, would cease existing (BOST didn't release anything else after Strike Witches). And it's funny, because BOST had proved that they were willing to listen to its fans as a way to improve their quality. They didn't make the blatant ortographical or grammatical mistakes that CR does now.

Crunchyroll used its fanbase to make easy money. They betrayed the ones that feed them for years. And even though I love some of the shows that they release (I keep on making Yumeiro Patissiere threads), and I'd be more than willing to support those shows, I will not give a cent to crunchyroll.

Discuss. Spread the word.

From last thread:
>I work for CR as a translator, and I just have to say, the shit that ends up getting streamed is *NOT* the way I would prefer my translations to end up. The editing and "normalfag" pandering as you guys put it, is rampant and abhorrent. I only do it for the money, and yes, I do consider myself a shameless sellout. I try to make up for it by scanlating manga in my freetime, but that alone will never make up for sacrificing my weeaboo integrity for a paycheck like I have done.
>I've spent half of my life growing up in weeaboo culture, and knowing that all that I loved as a child ultimately resulted in me working to pander to narutards makes me sick inside sometimes. All I can say is, keep pirating, keep fansubbing, and row row fight the powah, bros.

-Anonymous CR Translator

Stopped going to Crunchyroll when they removed all the Kamen Rider and Super Sentai video and when they fucked up the player.

Kill CR !

Why are you so against people making money?

I have a Crunchyroll account so I can watch PSG as it is broadcast.

I will cancel my account after PSG ends, unless Crunchyroll obtains the rights to another worthwhile show. As it stands now: The only thing worth watching on CR is PSG.

>>41312146
He is the truest bro.

>>41312182
see this >>41312107

I used to download every show I wanted by single episodes via Megaupload at 30kb/s so I never streamed. I'm not an americanfag so I didn't know shit about CrunchyRoll 'till about 6 months ago.

Still, that story sounds like a very evil plan by an evil company.

>>41312182
It not about them making money it's about them turning their back on the people who made their site what it was.

>since the CR employee started spamming.
Just woke up and first thing I see is stupidity on both CR and 4chan's hands.

>>41312182

The way they make their money and probably because OP is a socialistfag

fuck CR

>>41312146

man...I want to whore myself for money too. Too bad I am good for nothing ;_;

DEATH TO CRUNCHYROLL!!!!

I had to switch my Bleach subs from DB to SGKK because of these faggots

I'm down with some DDoS action if anyone wants to organize something

someone tell me in one sentance why crunchyroll is killing anime because all i see is a way to watch it without waiting or wasting disk space.

you know, like TV?

i cant be bothered with fucking great walls of text

>>41312060
>Crunchyroll

Stopped reading there.

>>41312323
OP here.

Use /b/ for that shit. Don't expect me to participate or /a/ to be like that.

I have a rich cousin that lives in Japan, and can buy me any series I want whenever I want, and I understand Japanese.

I get all my series straight from Japan, bought legally by someone else, without me spending anything, and without needing crappy sub titles that mistranslate everything.

U mad fansub fags?

>>41312354
see >>41312107 and >>41312146

So you guys would prefer some other entity with no previous experience and link to fansubs to do what CR did instead?

Or do you just hate streaming and guys who stream?

Or do guys just hate how CR and their ripping group comes out first with subs?

>>41312107
Gigantic wall of text.
>>41312146
Gigantic wall of text.
Again, does anyone have a shorter version? Anyone?

>>41312401

Does anyone has the image comparing fansub and normal subs?

the one with a yellow car

>>41312354
>i cant be bothered with fucking great walls of text
Then leave.
>>41312401
>a rich cousin
>I understand Japanese.
You're some fat white weeaboo who took a Japanese Language class in High school. Stop pretending.

>>41312146
i think the short version is crunchyroll got popluar cause of fans uploading shit, and that popularity lead to companies making deals with crunchyroll for money and stuff.

basically fans are butthurt that someone made a few bucks out of this.

its no different to getting a fuck ton of subs on youtube really.

"The industry" should've done what CR did.

Instead a bunch of thieves who were making so much money illegally selling fansubs they took from other sources get rewarded (and they only 'went legit' because they were making so much money they were probably getting to a place where there were realistic legal threats), and all funi did was bawww a little. And then I think they finally made the shittiest possible streaming available on their site.

>>41312471

If you really think those paragraphs constitute giant walls of text then you have a lesser attention span than a 7 year old who's just chugged eight cans of red bull.

>>41312455
>So you guys would prefer some other entity with no previous experience and link to fansubs to do what CR did instead?
The only experience that CR had was when they created the site. The only link to fansubs they had was that they allowed fansubbers to upload. That link was cut off.

So yeah, I'd prefer a "clean" entity. Like, I'm OK with hulu having Mushishi.

>Or do you just hate streaming and guys who stream?
We do that. But this is not necessarily what the issue is about. Crunchyroll has the majority of the market of western internet distribution of anime, and that's just not right.

>Or do guys just hate how CR and their ripping group comes out first with subs?
Not at all. I love my Horrible Subs. I'd like them more if they didn't have such a fuckton of errors, though...

>my face when people pay for anime

>>41312354
Too retarded, don't care.

>>41312471

Fuck off, idiot. There, you readed one line, keep up the good work.

>>41312523
So you would prefer that the companies crack down on CR instead of making deals with them?

What do you want guys?For these companies to make deals with you fans as well to watch their stuff?

WHY SO BUTTHURT over people making money?

It's like you're trying to give these companies an excuse to crack down on free fansubs with these reactions.

>>41312523

Incorrect. The fans are butthurt at CR deleting every fansub from the site - the way they obtained said deals and money.

lrn2readingcomprehension

>>41312481

Here's a relatively good comparison. The yellow car image isn't relevant, unless you live in Singapore.

Fuck this noise I watch my anime on Veoh.

If you're going to berate someone, at least type correctly.

Whiners are communist jews.

>>41312523
>basically fans are butthurt that someone made a few bucks out of this.
You didn't read those 3 post either, did you?

Some of us were OK with them getting the money. When they killed off all of the ties with the fansubbers, and when they killed companies that deserved the money more than CR... that's when we became butthurt.

I don't get it.
Basically, CR took shows that were fansubbed and put the finished work on their site to be streamed to anime fans?
Then when they got bigger, popular, and richer, they got their own subbers?

Maybe I'm missing something, but what are they doing wrong?
I've never used CR before so please inform me on the "evil" thing they are doing.

>>41312588

>readed

>>41312195
News flash: you can torrent every show CR releases the same day it's released and in better quality.

I know you're a newfag, but still, come the fuck on.

>>41312666
The DVD version is the best, fuck this shinigami shit.

>>41312323
>Bleach
>derp hurr DDoS solves every problem ever
Holy fuck, this thread is brimming with faggotry.

>>41312706
Shitty video quality
Bad translations

Those are deal breakers for most people.

got rich off selling fansubs
hired the cheapest fansubbers to do 'official' subs
FANSUBS ARE EVIL YOU SHOULD SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY YOU FILTHY PIRATES

fuck CR.

I'm looking for a bento box, it cant be pinku (that's Japanese for pink) or any girl color. It has to be of 2 or more kotoba (that's Japanese for 2 compartments) and has be be chibi (small) sized. And has to be really kawaii (cute). Also It has to be about 10-20 bux. And you have to post pics of it first (i want to make shure it's kawaii [cute]). And it would be nice if it came with matching chopstick holder (WITH chopsticks). OH! and it CANNOT have any cartoon pictures, or be made out of plastic. It has to be made of ceramic, or something like that. Also it would be nice if it was made in japan. and not in china or corea (Korea) or whatever. I have found a bento box similar to the one im describing in e-bay, but it was 1 kotoba, and i don't want my gohan (rice) to touch my other things (it can get wet and i would not like that, plus 2 compartments looks more kawaii)

>>41312471

Not OP, but tl;dr:

Crunchyroll are a bunch backstabbing sellouts. This is bad because they sold out other people's work for their own profit.

I was in CR way back in early 2007. I loved it not for the vids, but it was practicly a myspace or facebook for otaku. (and your occasional narutards) Actually, I came in CR as a narutard and the people there i talked to straightened me out. The people in CR were awesome. And now they are all gone.

>>41312323

You should probably just go back to /b/

>>41312643
>WHY SO BUTTHURT over people making money?
>>41312182
>Why are you so against people making money?
I knew that sounded familiar.

>>41312060
if op is still lurking you also have to take into account of domfortress and gregayres willingly to bring up chargers agaisnt cr for hosting fansubs.

>>41312706
>Basically, CR took shows that were fansubbed and put the finished work on their site to be streamed to anime fans?
More or less. But CR didn't place fansubbed shows on their site. The CR community uploaded such fansubs.

>Then when they got bigger, popular, and richer, they got their own subbers?
Right. But that's not all. They got bigger, popular and richer because of the fansubs, and then, after getting money from the japanese companies, they destroyed the evidence and started acting like any other anti-fansub company.

And they are now the biggest legal online anime distributor outside japan.

Anon with a CR account since 2006 here.

Couldn't agree more with ya.

>>41312744
No it's not. Manga translators agree. Stop being retarded. You don't translate names. Maybe Lord Shinigami would be better than the "sama", but that's it.

most of the fansubbers can't translate properly for shit. I've even seen some grammatical errors and I'm an eurofag. Not to mention the SO KAWAII~~ karaoke and the refusal to translate words like onii-chan and oneesama. FUCK THAT!

Why would I want to watch those?

>>41312835
Yeah same here except for the Toku and dramas.
Once they started deleting those and some of the anime me and most of the people on there left. They have tons of groups and stuff that used to be real active now just there.

If you had a friend that could buy you the series DVD's whenever you want, and they had BOTH dub and sub options on them, and you didn't have to pay ANYTHING for this friend to do this, would you get DVD's then, or would you still go with fansubs?

>ITT: Fags advertise and generate income for Crunchyroll in an attempt to rally other fags into not using Crunchyroll

>>41312876

Proving piracy does pay.

I have lurked on cr with multiple accounts since 2007 and yeah the place has turn to shit but what can you do? Hell the best part is they block Japanese ip from accessing the site.

This kind of reminds me of Sankaku

Artifact bitches about people illegally downloading, but the fucker depends on all these people pirating anime and wishing to have an online community to talk about it.

DERP


As to CR, people are pissed because for awhile they monies from fansubs. They got a huge membership, made a ton of cash and the simple fact of the large membership saved them from a lawsuit.

Crunchyroll is single-handedly saving anime industry.

Rage some more faggots; noone cares.

>>41312860
I didn't know about that one.

Explain further...

>>41312956
Same with crunchyroll. No, wait, crunchyroll is worse in that aspect than most respected fansubs.

So in short, fansubbers are pissy because a streaming site with inferior quality is detracting from their downloads. Got it.

ITT: high school kids without jobs complaining about free stuff getting taken away from them

>>41312956
>Why would I want to watch those?
Because we aren't European DandB techno loving twats.

>>41312876
>>41312876
>>41312876
You didn't the get memo?

most people that want something going for them have to be assholes. That's how business works.

Welcome to 21st century and capitalism

I'm more surprised why all the other fansubbers don't recognize this opportunity and challenge CR's monopoly so far.

I am a fansubber, and I think Crunchyroll is the best thing that has happened to this side of the Pacific in regards to getting exposure to anime.

I can understand the rage and the hurt that comes from Crunchyroll's origins - aka uploading fansubs and charging people to watch what was supposed to be free, like narutofan.com and Naruto manga. But the current CR is saving a godsend.

Think about it. Before CR there would be a whole bunch of groups popping up to do a certain number of shows. Some groups were fast, some groups were slow, and some groups were troll worthy. You had to pick and choose your poison and pray you download from a group that actually knows how to translate. Lesser known shows get shafted and there was too much work that was wasted.

Now you have CR streaming a whole lot of shows each season. Each of those shows has a paid, professional translator working behind them, which guarantees quality. Forever gone are "fansubbers" that "translate" with manga scans or guesswork. These translators are the real deal. If you like the service they provide, then pay for them. If you don't, then you can "stick it to the man" by downloading Horriblesubs or Crunchysubs or Funiguys or whatever.

The bottom line is that CR provides quality translations with no turnaround time. This was not possible three years ago. Being an anime fan today is a lot easier than being an anime fan three, five, or ten years ago.

Now the only fansubbing groups left will translate the shows that CR leaves out, like children's shows and porn. And that's just fine with me.

CRUNCHY ROLL IS KILLING FAN SUBBING

Crunchy Roll charged people to stream anime with stolen subs from groups who did them for free for the fans.
In 2008 they got over 4 million dollars in investments while still hosting the same stolen fan subs. In 2009, after they were popular enough, they started to remove copyrighted material they had no rights to and started talking about how fan subbing was killing the industry.
They got to where they were through stealing fan subs, now they are killing the very same fan subbers.
They are slowly monopolizing all fan subbing with their shit subs.
They are forced to sub the way the producers want them to so 'otaku culture' references are often removed and made more safe for children for certain shows
More and more screencaps from horriblesubs are being posted each season. It's not because of increase in quality, it's because of increases in concentrations of newfaggotry.

DO NOT USE CRUNCHYROLL OR DOWNLOAD ANY RELEASE WITH CRUNCHY SUBS
CRUNCHY ROLL IS KILLING FAN SUBBING

Ya know what?
I do not give a fuck.

well, koda did try to fucking absorb every other group into gg.

remember when THE ONLY SUBS LEFT ARE CR AND [gg]

>>41313081
Is anyone here complaining about free stuff getting away from anybody?

We're complaining about a company taking advantage of the fans work to get quick money.

It's like what I asked the cr employee (or that kid going around threads telling people to go to CR) once:

Would you pay Tazmo if he went legal?

>>41313158
/thread

GET OUT CRUNCHY ROLL DEVS.

CR streamed an edited version of Juuden-chan when an uncensored version was available.

FUCK THOSE DOUCHEBAGSS.

CR is shit.

Get out CR devs, and quit promoting your shitty community and subs.

>>41313159
Do you seriously believe Crunchyroll provide "shit" translations? The group ripping them may call them "Horriblesubs" but the subtitles are far from horrible. I would pick Horriblesubs over a fansubbing group every single time, including over my own group.

>>41313158
>>41313196

>I work for CR

Just get the fuck out - do you really think you are going to convince the people of /a/ to pay for our subs?

I for one will NEVER give a fucking penny to CR - if fansubbing dies I will wait years to get my anime.

CR = shit

>All I can say is, keep pirating, keep fansubbing, and row row fight the powah, bros.
http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/41288632#p41292513
http://green-oval.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/41288632#p41292513

Will never forget these words.

>>41313274 I would pick Horriblesubs over a fansubbing group every single time, including over my own group.

Geeze, I wonder if this guy is a cr translator?

HUMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>41313274
Yes, have you not seen their stupid Squid puns. There's also a screencap I have of them using noob in subs.
seriously.

Go away crunchy roll faggots.

>>41313305
Fansubbing won't die. The longest you'd have to wait for free anime is until the DVD/BD is released.

>>41313274
-10/10

Sup HS.

CR dev here.

Go on, keep the hate machine on 'high'. There's no such thing as bad publicity.

I stop using crunchyroll so i don't care what they do they won't get anything from me. But instead of complaining how about getting together and make a site yourselves.

>>41313159
Fansubbers are killing fansubbing, or rather their egos are. Increased fancy/redundant karaoke, increasing filesizes, speedsubbing, oversubbing, drama etc.

Thank fuck you can watch shit on crunchyroll without any of that shit affecting the finished product

GET OUT CRUNCHY ROLL DEVS
GO ADVERTISE IN GAIA AND ANIMESUKI

.>>41313158
jesus hates your capitalist faggotry

>>41313340
No, I do not have the time and energy to work for CR. I only translate children's shows like HeartCatch and Doremi.

>>41313274

How much are you getting paid to do this? I honestly would like to know, and how do I get a job doing this?

I spend too much time on here anyway, might as well get paid for it.

(and I hate HorribleSubs - could you CRfags shut his ass down)

>>41313158
>Each of those shows has a paid, professional translator working behind them, which guarantees quality. Forever gone are "fansubbers" that "translate" with manga scans or guesswork. These translators are the real deal.

>>41313360
Indeed. Even if fansubbing dies, it wont stop people from pirating the discs.

I would think that if the industry fucks over fans and puts a stop to fansubbing somehow, people would buy even less and pirate more. Thats what happened to ADV afterall.

Don't know what the problem with CR is. We get simulcast with fansub-level subs.

Of course, I don't actually pay for it, I just download HorribleSubs or a release from some other group that rips CR's subs.

mfw: I learnt enough japanese to understand anime

>>41313484
im hoping to be able to do that soon gonna take japaneese next semester

>>41313413
I'm not getting paid and I am just sick and tired of people wanting CR to die.

If CR dies we'll go back to a time in which there are over 9000 groups subbing the same 3 shows. It'll be terrible.

>>41313158
>>41313274
LHM, I am disappoint ;_;.
Now the only reason I love you is because of the hyakko ;_;.

But anyway, your point is that, because there is a crunchyroll, we have decent (at least) translations. But it would be the same with any other group, right?

Again, the issue is not that legal internet broadcasting companies exists. The issue is, just as you say, the past of crunchyroll. They do not deserve what they have, and some companies (specially the BOST I miss so much) would have deserved it way more.

>>41313158
>The bottom line is that CR provides quality translations with no turnaround time. This was not possible three years ago.
Dattebayo

Oh yeah continue to argue while I get my anime subs for free and I don't see this changing anytime soon. The only difference is that it's a lot faster.

inb4 herp derp replies

>>41313518

>If CR dies we'll go back to a time in which there are over 9000 groups subbing the same 3 shows. It'll be terrible.

For you maybe.

I've never had a problem with it.

>CR devs samefagging, making it look like CR subs should be downloaded over fansubs

>>41313484
MFW You're a full of shit weeaboo who only knows twenty phrases in broken Japanese.

ITT - fansubbers who are jelly that they arent getting paid.

you know what gets me? fansubbers claim to do it to the fans and to get exposure, well thats not a problem anymore since shit is licensed and released so fast, but that aside...

leechers are a bunch of cheap fucks who dont buy the releases and support the studios. this leads to shows not earning the money they could have, which means they arent deemed as successful sales wise. it affects the chances of merch and further series/movies

at least with crunchyroll there is some revenue/viewer statistics there

its not crunchyroll or fansubbing thats killing anime, its the cheap fuck fans who dont support shit by buying the releases.

dont even get me started on dvd ripping fags. they are just cancer giving fansubbers a bad name

I'll kill myself before I download crunchy shit.
Do you people have ADD?
Can't you wait for a decent group to do it?

WHOA PEOPLE ON /A/ WATCH STREAMS?ON SOME FAG SITE?SINCE YEARS AGO?

DAMN YOU FAGGOTS WHEN I ASKED FOR STREAM LINKS A LONG TIME AGO YOU ACT LIKE TORRENT/DDL ELITIST FREAKS

FUCK YOU HYPOCRITES

>Dattebayo

remember how Dattebayo was like ALL YOU LEECHERS SHOULD EMAIL CR TO CONVINCE THEM TO PAY US TO REMAIN OFFICIAL SUBBERS OF BLEACH!

and CR was like, lol faggots you expect us to pay you that much?, and the very first CR release of bleach didn't even get character names right--that's how good CR translations are.

>>41313518
Not really.

Funi and hulu, for example, are streaming as well. If cr disappeared, the marked would spread to those companies instead.

... also, I've beeped you like a hundred times. Get in fageat.

>>41313518
if you don't know how to use anidb and read a simple 1 - 10 rating scale, then you shouldn't be downloading in the first place

>>41313583
Sup CR dev. No one cares.
Everybody who uses CR should get out of /a/, because we sure have enough stupid people here.

It is a sad day at /a/ when so many so called fans scream and yell in defense of paying to view fansubs

>>41313533
>Oh yeah continue to argue while I get my anime subs for free and I don't see this changing anytime soon. The only difference is that it's a lot faster.
Fucking this.

/a/ just go all apeshit because it's LOL STREAMING QUALITY and because the subs AREN'T PREFECT LIKE I WANT.

Hell, just a week ago a huge shit-storm brewed because of gg-UTW's subs, eventually making UTW drop gg because of some stupid sub preferences.

Fuck, just go learn japanese already.

>>41313583
Revenue generated by Crunchyroll and Funimation isn't fed back to the studio.

My buying a DVD box set or owning a Crunchyroll account does not affect the studio at all. The only way to do so is by importing the original DVDs/BDs, which by all means I welcome you to do. I can guarantee that you won't though, considering a volume of 2-3 episodes is upwards of 50 dollars.

>>41313579CR devs samefagging, making it look like CR subs should be downloaded over fansubs

what the fuck are you talking about? CR don't let people download their shit.

>>41313525
"But anyway, your point is that, because there is a crunchyroll, we have decent (at least) translations. But it would be the same with any other group, right?"

Well, if you hate Crunchyroll for their shady past, that is something I cannot argue against. CR got lucky and pushed all other companies away. That is how this country works and that's just the way things turned out.

But without CR, there would be no guarantee that so many shows will even be subbed. At least, that's what I think.

>>41313583 leechers are a bunch of cheap fucks who dont buy the releases and support the studios. this leads to shows not earning the money they could have, which means they arent deemed as successful sales wise. it affects the chances of merch and further series/movies

And this kids is a prime example why people are full on retarded when it comes to piracy. If every download was a loss sale, movies should be making BILLIONS AND BILLIONS if it wasnt pirated.

I think downloading is great. I can support the studios and companies I like, and the rest of them can go fuck themselves because I will never buy thieir products for whatever reason.

>>41313583
it would help if everything being released isn't a piece of shit

/a/ is dead.
There is no way we would have had this many supports of crunchy garbage even a year or two ago.

>>41313530
>Dattebayo
YOU PUNCH LIKE A DRUNKEN RIDER

Anyone who watches streams regularly should be banned from anime.

>>41313609
Viz translated bleach, not CR.

Fail troll is fail.

>>41313681
this

hasn't the MAFIAA taught you anything?

>>41313518
Are you shitting me? Being able to have options in case a group's subs aren't preferable is what makes fansubs great. Groups can sub however they like, and if one of them isn't likable, then there's a chance in being able to choose a different group.that sub in a way that's to one's preference.

QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKKKKUUUU PLAYGUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>41313706

Its like 2 people samefaggin it up.

mfw I know enough Engrish to see how silly you are to argue of cahtoon.
Ching Chong Ding Ah Ling Bong

>>41313583

Crunchyroll?

More like Crunchy Troll AMIRITE?

>I'll provide all the facts about crunchyroll that you need to know

Yes, you provided us ALL the facts we need to know.
More like the shit you want us to now.
Get out CR devs.

>>41313744
Well, in my opinion having a fuckload of groups working on one show is just wasting work.

>>41313751
Probly is, apperently CR is doing PR now. If they are going to try and pretend to be fans they should at least TRY and act like fans and not say the crazy shit they are.

Pathetic or just sad?

>>41313687
>doesn't know how about promotion tactics
>doesn't realize HS is the main group to put out their subs

>>41313813

As opposed to a monopoly?

I don't have any issues with CR as an idea, but the basic fact is that they're in direct competition with fansubbers. And when I can download a 720p fansub that is (in general) better translated than CR's 380p free stream, why would I go the legal route when the illegal one gives me a superior product?

Personally, I'd like to see a service with better subs (I know it varies from show to show, but jeez, there are a lot of really lousy CR subs) that offers either a per-show subscription for streaming and then a discount on the Blu-rays (yes, Blu-rays, DVDs are old and busted) produced at the end of a show's season, or an iTunes-like service where I can fork over a few dollars to download and archive an HD version of a show.

TL;DR I'd like to support the R1 industry but I find it difficult when the fansubbers are providing a superior product for free.

>>41313813
is there something wrong with a little variety

>>41313706

>>41313681
so if you buy an american release, does the studio not get royalties or anything?

surely at the very least if you support the american release, it makes it more likely we will get those releases instead of having to import the expensive, untranslated versions?

CR wants a monopoly on all the subbing. They don't you to see the other better translations, they want you to get theirs because they can release it quicker.
Death to crunchy fags.

>mfw I download whatever the fuck I want, from either fansubbers or CR rips, and don't care about minor stylistic differences

Y'all weeaboos are just a bunch of post evangelion bitters.

>>41313880

The localization studios get all the money.

>>41313891
You're retarded, casualfag.

>>41313882

Subs that can make someone hate the show.

I use CR but don't pay a dime so yeah, whatever then.

OP here.

>>41313891
> I download whatever the fuck I want, from either fansubbers or CR rips
... and that's good.

As long as you're not using them directly, that's good.

>>41313643
I don't use CR, and nor am I a dev. Dunno what gave you that idea. I'm just an old school fan/subber who believes in putting out the most accurate product you can, but expect the fans to do their bit and buy the official releases, 'cause you know, fans usually buy things they like.

It's too bad you can download figures and shit.

I don't particularly care that Crunchyroll betrayed fansubbers for money. In any case, they were going to have to if they were ever going to become legitimate. People didn't invest in Crunchyroll because they were recognizing fansubbing as legitimate, they did it because they saw people were willing to pay money to watch subbed anime online, and they wanted in on that.

>>41313930
The translator said he makes the squid puns without them even making sense in the Japanese audio.

He just adds squid puns he wants. He's trying to find a way to put "Squid pro quo" in.

>>41313930

>>41313859
If so called fans wants to kill off any groups making money off subs, what makes you think anyone would want to do any of that?

>>41313966
I know.
There are no puns in the japanese where he adds them.
Crunchy Roll could not be worse.
I'd rather download gg or m.3.3.w or anything else.

>>41313930
When I saw those subs I knew the people defending them had to be some CR or HS guys. Nobody would be this retarded, to wait half a week just to get those shitty subs.

>>41313813
>>41313689
Adding "in my opinion" to very post doesn't excuse you of the obligation of backing up your blanket statements. You might as well shut up if you're not willing to assert anything decisively.

>>41313956
>most accurate product
>CrunchyRoll

Yeah, nobody worth a damn believes anything you say on here, not even that you actually are who or what you imply you are, but hey.

The whole internet now is rife with stupid little schemes. It stinks, but there's worse things these people could be doing for money.

>>41313930
>>41313966
what sub is this so that i stay away from it

>>41313955
Which, I believe, is what some people are defending. Who the fuck would actually stream their anime?

Reported for crunchy roll devs everywhere.

I swore off official licensed anime after I listened to what ADV did to Azumanga Daioh

I still want them dead to this day.....fucking lazy assholes who can't read subtitles

>>41314010
>implying that crunchyroll and my personal goals when I was a fansubber had anything in common.

SO HOW AM I SUPPORTING CRUNCHFUCK WHEN I'M DOWNLOADING HORRIBLESUBS FOR FREE?

NOT SUPPORTING THE OTHER FANSUBS? IF THEY EVEN ARE ANY MORE SUBBER OF THAT SHOW, THEY ARE SLOW AS FUCK AND WITH SAME/WORSE QUALITY

>>41314000

I'd be compeltely fine if every localization studio like funimation went out of business.

The number of weeaboos would drop dramatically, while those who arent retarded narutards can still watch fansubs.

>>41314019 there's worse things these people could be doing for money

Yea, but a whore is still a whore even if they just give handjobs.

And my friend, CR is a whore.

>And when I can download a 720p fansub that is (in general) better translated than CR's 380p free stream

How do you know those fansubs, are in general, better translated?

>>41314026

What the fuck do you think this thread is about?

>>41312375
>>41312107
>>41312085
>>41312060
WORDS WORDS WORDS
Go make a blog already
if you had time to write this shit you have time to vent some place that doesn't shit up a good board

>>41313956
yea...if we like it

>>41314026
pretty much everyone who used CR....HorribleSubs, Underwater, ect.....

FFFpeeps are the only safe ones ATM

>>41313844
I think we have a disconnect in opinion.

I'm from the camp that as long as the translation is understandable, not too literal, with little or no grammar mistakes and typos, then it's a good translation. After watching a whole lot of Horriblesubs aka CR translations, I've come to the conclusion that they do provide good translations.

From a fansubber's standpoint, of course CR "competes" with fansubbers. They are basically taking the only advantage fansubbers have (turnaround time) and kicking our balls with it. Any rational fansubber will stop fansubbing a show that CR picks up, because frankly "competing" with them is a waste of time.

They have exact scripts days before the raw even comes out and they have people with Japanese language degrees and JLPT1 certification. How can some guy who learned Japanese by taking a few classes at UC Berkeley even compete?

>>41314027
>>41314027
>>41314027
>>41314027
>>41314027
FUCKING this. We are defending somewhat good fastsubs. If someone actually steam and pays for that shit is retarded.

>>41312060
...I could careless.

I torrent and I don't watch streams. So both of you go to hell.

>>41314074
Because I understand basic Japanese.

Crunchy Roll are killing the fan subbers.
I want fan subbers, not crunchy roll shit puns and 1337 5p34k

So people hate Crunchyroll because they feel betrayed, not so much because of the actual service?

>>41314112 I torrent and I don't watch streams

Wow, how normal

>>41314090
>7-10 PARAGRAPHS ARE HARD TO READ
>HOLY SHIT IF I WANTED TO READ MORE THAN 2 SENTENCES I WOULD GO READ A BOOK OR SOMETHING

Shouldn't you be doing homework, squirt?

Also,
>implying /a/ is good while people (like you) who can't be bothered to read a few paragraphs are here

>>41314066
Wat. Most localization companies localizes their subs, so that made fucking zero sense. Companies like Funi and CR are the cancer killing fan subs, and for "weeaboos" who want unlocalized subs

>>41314164
Also streams are evil and you should never get paid for anything.

>>41314104
with more appealing subs and karaoke

>>41313880
>>41313681
>>41313909

This is simply not true. Most anime licencing works through a system of minimum guarantees - the R1 company pays upfront for the show on a per-episode basis (generally something like $1k to $10k per episode) and then sends a percentage of any money made above and beyond that back to the licensor, who then divides it among the various groups (music licensors, TV stations, and the animation studio) as per the agreement drawn up by the original production committee.

If you'd like a concrete example of how supporting the R1 industry can matter, The Big O season 2 would never have been produced without the success that the R1 company had with it.

But CR still sucks.

Shit dude I've been downloading anime through mirc since 2003, when the hell did this crunchy roll scene start, I was downloading shittons of shows and I never cared about a silly streaming site once. Inb4 shit quality reduces my bandwidth usage, no. I live in Belgium, at the time we had an 8 gigabyte bandwidth per month. I still downloaded 200~230MB mkv. If I wanted lower quality, for shittier shows that I was told to watch I'd just get my forums / search buttanz on teh google up and running to download the shittiest format ever made. Real Media, or whatever it was called.

Tl;Dr: Crunchy roll is useless as it was already easy enough to find fansubs through sites as ANIDB and others.

>>41314104

Video quality.

I can watch a 720 fansub for free.

Plus some subgroups dont make stupid puns.

Also, you are full of shit on CR speed. On /m/, we have Kamen Rider subs THE NEXT DAY. From TWO sub groups. They dont have bullshit 'access to the raws early' or whatever.

OP here

>>41314164
In my case, it's like that. While CR subs are not my cup of tea, I still watch Horrible Subs, and I'm generally not too bothered by them.

There are people more bothered with the service, though, but in my case (and in the case of the people running Horrible Subs, as they have told me), it's the fact that they betrayed us and basically killed the competition using the popularity that they got from fansubbers and fansub fans.

But japan supports crunchyroll so obviously we should too..

>>41314269
>Japanese businessmen support Crunchyroll.

Seems to me like CR would be okay as long as there are idi-, I mean clients who pay for streams.

Going on the agressive and wanting them down would probably force them to get backup from their Japanese overlords and make them have the excuse to crack down on other sub groups.

God, at least wait for them to get greedy or something.

Why aren't they doing anything on HS or Funiguys or anything so far?Or have they?

Fan subbing is dying.
CR is killing it.

CR killed fan subbing AFTER they gained popularity through their subs.
They are evil.

>>41314230
But we're talking about anime, not Kamen Rider.

Were there any groups faster for Occult Academy? For Mitsudomoe? I don't think so.

But my main point is this: Hate CR all you want, but the fact is they provide accuracy and speed (most of the time) and are her to stay.

>>41314074
Because I'm competent but not fluent in Japanese. I can pick out disconnects between dialogue and subtitles. I'm not good enough to watch most shows entirely raw (apart from some aimed at very young children) but the subs are more of an aid to my viewing than the only way I'll know what is going on. I think (or I'd like to think that) there are enough of us out there that you can generally rely on the /a/ gestalt to pick out the best and worst subs of any given show.

>>41314269
>voiceactorwhorespaidforadvertisingCR.mkv

>>41313159
>>41314143
>>41314104
These thread make me want to use CR because i know i will make you more mad and butthurt that you can't afford to buy you anime on disc's. I support studios and who ever else i need to so i can watch good anime. quit being leeches to society if you dont own your top five anime you dont have any right to bitch about one thing about anime on this board

>>41314214
The main problem is that they are monopolizing via licensing, and that often kills motivation for groups who would had subbed whatever series instead.

>They have exact scripts days before the raw even comes out and they have people with Japanese language degrees and JLPT1 certification.

Not that I strongly disagree with what you're saying, but having a language degree and a certificate doesn't automatically make a person a professional translator (although it certainly helps). You need to study some theory, too, for that.

What did crunchy roll do wrong?
They:
1) Charged people to stream
2) Charged people to stream anime with stolen subs
3) Charged people to stream anime with stolden subs from groups who did them for free for the fans
4) They went 'legit' and started talking about how fan subbing is killing the industry
5) They are killing fan subbing by releasing anime before other groups can get a chance to sub since they get it early
6) They are monopolizing all fansubs by killing the competition with gay methods
7) Their fan subs are horrible
8) They are exploiting the stupidity of the newfags of /a/ to download their shit
9) They are forced to sub the way the producers want them to so 'otaku culture' references are often removed and made more safe for children for certain shows

This is retarded. We still get torrents for anything and fansubs are still working on the series CR has. What's the fucking point of bitching? Why are you guys so mad?

>>41314305
You obviously missed the raid on free direct download site links by crunchy to kill off competitors.

>>41314358
CR is killing fan subbing and they will soon leave only themselves to sub.
I don't want to be forced to download CR garbage subs.
See:>>41313930

>>41314264
>and in the case of the people running Horrible Subs, as they have told me

HAHAHAHAHA, does fags only care about the money they get for the DDL links.

>>41314305
They'd probably like to, but they're running on thin enough profit margins that lawyering up is beyond their financial means. Plus, as the RIAA and MPAA have discovered, it's incredibly difficult to stop distributed filesharing. I suspect that CR would just rather ignore the rippers and hope fewer people notice them rather than spamming C&Ds.

>>41314366
heh, I think they missed a few, or your talking about the well known ones. I havent stopped used direct download sites for years.

Let's get this straight

Why people hate CrunchyRoll:
-They made their money with FANSUBS, and now they're KILLING THEM
-They remove otaku culture reference, do you imagine how Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei or Genshiken would be translated by CR?... yeah
-Killing off (or trying to kill off) any fansub that subs their licensed shows, leaving no choice for us but watch their shitsubs <- this is more likely to happen in the future

STREAMING AND MONEYMAKING IS NOT THE POINT

>>41314358

CR is getting bolder by the day. They want to be the only fansubbers out there.

>>41314338

also it helps to be capable of phrasing a sentence like a human being rather than an aspergers robot

>>41314377

No they are not. How are they killin fansubs? There are still fansbus and they are doing nothing to stop people from subbing. They just do it themselves too, if you don't like it don't watch it.

Um... ... ..."go fuck the skull of Jesus,"?

what.

>mfw people download fansubs for series that are streaming free and legit on crunchyroll

>>41314346
I've been a critic of CR for a long time, I even gathered hate from the site since I always argued with CR's "PR" guy DomFortress before they went legit, but I have tp say that you must've never been in the site since 1-3 was never true.

Okay, so I agree that CR is shit and all, but how the fuck is it, in its current iteration, hurting fansubbers in any way?

It's not like they get paid per download. Does it hurt their ego when some people watch the show with some other subs?

>>41314346
My god do you understand the point of "fansubbing?"

It's to get exposure to a show that you want exposure gotten to. That is all. CR does that perfectly.

For people who don't want to pay them, like me, there are people who rip the subs and slaps them onto 720p raws. Which is fabulous.

Sooner or later the only timers will be left.

So to summarize, OP is angry (partly in right) because he signed up with a group of people that operated a shrewd business. Used cheap labor to garner trust and a profit, then cut all ties to the black market leg of their site to make the money givers happy.

Wake up call--what you call entertainment and a way of hobby life is just another dollar sign. The only "community" was between you and your friends enjoying what you thought was a free ride. But everything's got a price.

If you're not going to organize a get back effort (and I mean a legitimate suit, not some lame-assed DDoS attack), then dust your knees off and move on with your life.

>>41314168
I also buy anime which I consider worthy of a purchase. Paying for a lousy online stream is foolish and retarded.

>>41314423
>streaming

Enjoy your Youtube quality.

>stolen subs

Really?I must have missed those fansubbers complaining how CR stole their subs.

Also, it makes total sense for some group going legit to take a pro pirate stance.

TOTALLY.

>>41314424
What in the fuck are you talking about?
CR was using other group's subs for a long ass time.

>>41314090
>some place that doesn't shit up a good board

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.

>>41314425

They snatch up liscenses to shows and threaten to sue other fansubbers who try to do those shows.

>>41314346
and what do you do?
you watch bootlegged anime that has been translated by some guy in his parents basement.
you don't buy dvd's or blu ray's
you bitch about people who stream for no fucking reason
you keep making /a/ your blog about this
and guess what nothing will happen
if anything the studio's will crack down on fan subbers
and you will be FUCKED with no subs
If you want something to bitch about than lets bitch about the fact that not enough people support the studies
they are people like you who dont buy anime
you just download a sub of it from some guy in his moms basement
YOU ARE WHAT IS RUINING ANIME FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!!

>>41314425
It's hurting because all these shitty CR rippers just spread their shitty CR rips all over the net.

And then these even shittier reencoders go about reencoding already shit video and flooding torrent sites with it.

Just look at the first page of TT over half the torrents will be from 10-20 different anime reencoders who are just releasing shit piece after shitpiece.

Of course fansubbers are at fault for that too if they just released a standard sd version (like eclipse did with their releases) half those faggots wouldn't be doing the shit.

Fuck Eclipse is dead. Fansubbing is dead. Fuck anime. I'm done with this shit.

>>41314337

I often fantranslate games, I frequent /jp/ too to help out in VN it might not be anime, but listen to this,

Translating stuff isnt something you do to get praised, I do it to help people out and provide quality and to make my japanese knowledge go up, games are the same way, you translate a game, your name is forgotten and people just say "oh thanks to whoever translated this", to make a long story short, I translate for myself, to get better, to know more. Not to get motivational speeches from fans. In the end fansubbers will always be around and people who look for better quality will always stick to these groups. Example Given: gg subs is avoided by alot of people. there will also be idiots who pay for streaming shit quality, while you could infact order the dvds and have something to throw into your room; inb4 someone goes on a bitching contest about how you should hide your powerlevel.

tl;dr

I pity the fool who bought a CR subscription.

HorribleSubs or bust.

So good, yet sooo BAD.

>>41314346
>>41314346
>>41314346
>>41314346

>7) Their fan subs are horrible
no, I've seen worse fansubs. a lot worse

> They are forced to sub the way the producers want them to so 'otaku culture' references are often removed and made more safe for children for certain shows
nobody wants to read about some shitty obscure 2ch reference he wont get anyway. And what's are made more "child friendly"? I want examples

>41313930

that looks like some retarded fucking western cartoon. HURP DURP KEEP SAYING SQUID UNTIL THEY LAUGH

>>41313158
I'm also a fansubber, and CR is full of faggots

Fan subbing is dying, CR is to blame.
CR is full of horrible people that will do anything to make a buck.

>>41314411
>often kills motivation
Did you not get that?

>>41314425
>It's not like they get paid per download.

some they do, not for torrents, but DDL sites pays you after a number of downloads.

Man I never realized there's a lot of faggots who actually watch streamed anime.

Enough even for some stream website to actually go legit and make money.

THIS IS ALL YOU FAULT YOU STREAMING FAGGOTS.

>>41314535
>speculation

>>41314603
>THIS IS ALL YOU FAULT YOU STREAMING FAGGOTS.

This. Streaming is Cancer.

>>41312060
OP... If you're expecting a mass mobilization of anons going up in arms against crunchyroll. Well you should know better. Personally speaking, I could careless.

Last time I looked at their page, their official news posts were in some really strange Gaia/kid-stuff-type retardese.

If that's how their subs are, I don't want 'em, even for free.

This is the dumbest fucking complaint I've ever heard.

Crunchyroll used to be in the user-submitted fansub scene. It's moved into the legally-licensed distribution business.

Big. Fucking. Deal.

There's still dattebayo and mangastream... among others. What we have now is an *improvement* over what we had before... fans fansub shows that are 1) good enough to have a fanbase, and 2) don't have adequate distribution. If these shows get popular, CR can pick them up and distribute them in a way that ACTUALLY MAKES MONEY for the production company.

I'm sorry you don't have your secret clubhouse anymore, but for fuck's sake, it isn't like there aren't any other fansub sites, and HOW THE FUCK HARD IS IT TO COUGH UP SIX BUCKS A MONTH?

tl;dr quit whining and man the fuck up you pathetic basement dwelling pussy.

>>41314538
So the problem is that there's a lot of substandard releases subs? I fail to see how this is a problem; anyone with half a brain can tell apart the fansubs from the CR rips, and if they can't it's just their loss. None of this affects fansubbers in any way.

hating on people who stream is a meme, right? surely its not like anyone actually thinks streaming is a terrible way to watch Japanese cartoons. and I highly doubt anyone would honestly criticize Crunchyroll, a website that provides free streaming of anime.

CR is for casualfags.
I'm not a casualfag, thus I don't download releases with CR subs.

>>41314610 I own all the anime that i like over the years
expect for what has not come out on disc's yet. I want to see studios do well and make great shows. I dont show everyone my disc's like a fag but i dont make of caring if people see. i spent my money on what i like, people spend money are far worse things than shows they liked

>>41314701
Crunchyfags confirmed for normalfags.

>>41314672
>If derp anon is leejun hurp. i cud durphurp. hurr.
2/10, I weep for our future if you aren't just an overdone troll. Or even if you are, actually, stop posting.

>>41314705
>anyone with half a brain can tell apart the fansubs from the CR rips,

ITT gross overestimation of common leecher intelligence levels.

Protip: alot of Horriblesubs users think they are a sub group.

>>41314710
Crunchy roll morons.

>>41314710
0/10

Go back to Crunchyroll.

>>41314672
OP here - I don't.

I only expect for people to know better whenever they see the crunchyroll employee spamming our threads. I would also wish for people to let more people know whenever that happens.

I'm just informing. This thread has made obvious the fact that many people don't know about CR, and they might be convinced by the "legal" aspect (some of us ARE buyfags) of their business. I know I originally was.

Never heard of CR until the Taiga fiasco but i do found subs are all crunchyrips nowadays

Torrent forever

Polite sage

Anonymous-san wants you faggots out of here.

>>41314768
But they aren't. Hence the name, "HorribleSubs."

>>41314768
Yes, the internet is full of retards. Why the fuck should we care?

>>41314772
the first guy banned had some good points

>>41314850

He watches streams.

Most streamfags watch shit like Naruto. So no, he has no idea what he is talking about.

>>41314783
is there shit in your brain
why make a thread about this
im going to make a point to stream all my anime for the rest of the year
It hope it fucks your shit

>>41314710
I BET YOU THINK HATING ON ONLINE MANGA READERS IS A MEME TOO RIGHT?

I've got a headache reading this thread and the 4 before it.
Why do you care what releases/subs other people watch ? /a/ is supposed to be a board to talk about the anime not the subs.

>>41314768

even proer tip: lots of horriblesubs users don't care

>>41312375
ha ha ha, gendo is such a tool

Okay, >>41314783 and >>41314672

you're WAY too young to be on here. Also, just a friendly heads-up for 41314672, expect to have to re-take English.

>>41314890
CR is the cancer killing other fan subbers.

Soon the only subs left will be CR subs.

so theres this website where you can watch anime FREE (may have to wait one week if you dont have 6 bux) and LEGALLY but you fags still find a reason to complain about it.

anime fans from the 80s and 90s are rolling in their graves right now.

Crunchy Roll won't be shit once Funimation opens its new video site.

>>41314817
way to take a that out of context bro

>>41314923
80s and 90s anime fans would wait a few days to get quality subs you moron.

Never paid for animu, never plan to. I download my shit from TT, Nyaa, BakaBT all for free, and it feels good.

But don't worry nigras, I'll always upload what I download because I love you all.

>>41314920
That, unfortunately, is the entire point of CR now.

sage to keep CR off the front page

>>41314923
Only thing I am rolling is a joint.

The fans who have been around the longest are the ones who think CR are theves. I mean oldfags are the ones more into the whole community, and know better than younger fans.

>>41314923
>may have to wait one week if you dont have 6 bux
>not paying for subs makes you have to wait
THIS
HERE
THIS IS WHY YOU ARE RETARDED YOU CR FAGS.

>>41314960
As long as you're not uploading/downloading Horrible Subs or anything with Crunchy Subs.

Get out crunchy roll devs.

>>41314808
>Never heard of CR until the Taiga fiasco

May I ask for more information about this?

>>41314959
O RLY?

anime is cancer.
anyone who tries to encourage the public to get into anime is cancer.
therefore, CR is cancer.

>>41314959
>80s and 90s
>quality subs in a few days

Your newfaggotry is showing.

>>41314988
you know what im streaming star driver right now and you cant do shit about it can you?
you mad yet?

pic related it is my face

>>41315053
Yea, I dont think he was even around back in the days of vandred and that was when online fansubing was pretty much in full swing on irc.

>>41315058
enjoy yoru 360p QUALITY

>>41315053
You're a moron.
I'm saying 80s and 90s fans, if they were still watching today, would wait a few days like we can for good subs and not get shit CR subs.

I am a 90s fan myself.

Fuck you CR faggots will keep downloading it for free and supporting fansubs because they are like us.

>>41315053

Us old fags would never pay for shit quality.

>>41314481
Members uploaded it on their own, not the site. Some fansubs even dedicated themselves to subbing then uploading it themselves on CR.

These fansubbers were the ones that were hit hard the most when they went legit. Stop being an idiot bro, your crusade will take you nowhere.

>>41315120
yeah but you mad

>>41315058
the only one mad is you, streaming anime to make someone mad

>>41314988
Don't care for CR/HS, most of their shit has shitty font/translations and low quality videos.

>>41315137
and thats why our still a virgin

>>41315137
You oldfags did pay for shit quality though, don't even try to say old fansubs were some glory day shit they were a headache to get translated, download and watched.

Hope those awful days are gone forever

As soon as Crunchyroll manages to secure >80% of each season, fansubbing as we know it will die.
It can't be helped, deal with it.
And that's not a bad thing, rippers will always be here (Hello us) and people who can't stand localized shit will just edit remux CR's script with zero-raws shit.
We're entering a new era of digital anime piracy and you gotta learn to live with it.

>>41315145
Who gives a shit?
That was the whole point of the site, user uploaded videos.
CR new they were making money off of fan subs that other people had made fore free.
They didn't take them down unless they were sent a letter by funimation or bandai.

I really miss the good old days where you wait for the VHS tapes to come...

Oh wait I really don't LOL, thank goodness for internet advances.