>>39783227

>Daisuke Satō is a faggot.

yes beacuse he is the first one in use zombies in a storie, also

>zombie manga
>expect realism

are you really trying this hard? No wonder you have no friends.

0/10

http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

But then again...

>>39783227

The thing that makes you a zombie is actually a kind of bacteria. Once you die, they provide oxygen to the muscles and brain by absorbing it through the skin.

>>39784328

...fag.

>>39784328
>bacteria
>provide oxygen

Yeah, no.

>>39784220

>Remember, the whole reason hunting licenses exist is to limit the number of animals you're allowed to kill, because if you just declared free reign for everybody with a gun, everything in the forest would be dead by sundown.

So true

>>39784466
>It's impossible because yeah no.

>zombies
>realistic
pick one

>>39784515
bacteria isn't going to be able to provide enough oxygen and all the other chemicals for your body to move without completing eating through your entire body within minutes

>>39784515
It's impossible, and doesn't require reasoning because it's common sense

>>39784220
>>39783227
>giving scientific answers to fantasys
Next let's debate magic and why Unicorns dont exist.

how about the zombie virus alter the host's dna and change its cellular metabolism so it can produce ATPs anaerobically out of the decomposition products?

>>39784664

Wouldn't this eat away at the "decomposition products" so fast that the host would be literally gone within a day?

>>39784634
Actually its gotten to the point that magic and technology are indistinguishable.

>>39784634
But magic does exist!

>>39784699

No it hasn't. There is no such thing is wizards. There are such things as computers. Are any of you really deluded enough to think zombies could actually exist?

>>39784612
>bacteria common sense
It's common sense in todays realistic medical world, but to say something as diverse and unexplored as the world of single cell organisms couldnt possibly one day accomplish such a task isnt scientifically accurate.

>>39784744
I wont believe that every possibility will come to pass, but I never say never. And I think disputing Zombies is dumber than claiming they exist.

Anybody else think magic is a joke?

A trained sniper could kill pretty much any mortal magic user in any story ever. Have fun putting up a shield spell when you don't even hear the rifle being fired until the slug is in your brain

>>39784823
how could anything be dumber than claiming zombies exist?

>>39784744
It's a Devil's Proof, Kyon. There is no evidence proving zombies will never exist and there you have it.

>>39784744
Science is an illusion created by magic, computer is just an illusion created by wizards

>>39783227
>implying that zombism is a disease and not magic shamanism

>>39784860
Unless the magic user has a persistent shield up. Then the sniper has one or two rounds before they are toast.

>Zombies are impossible. Daisuke Satō is a faggot.
I guess you're smarter than all of the award winning fiction writers as well? Mr. Smartypants?

>>39784860
Why would a magic user risk their physical body when they could astral project themselves to the battlefield from a submarine in an undisclosed location, and then attack you from their incorporeal spirit body?

>>39784860
>implying magic is necessarily limited by the speed of sound

>>39784860


or if you're in harry potter magic land the muggle sniper will just never see the wizard at all unless he wants to be seen

>>39784744
Flamethrower = fire manipulation
Telephones = telepathy

>>39784860

there's a lot of magic that "can" be said to counter snipers

Did someone say zombies?

>>39784860
>implying a magic user would be on an open field for you to shoot

>>39785016
Left hand = girlfriend

There is a vast difference.

>>39784868
Because arguing with delusional people is dumber than being under the effects of a delusion.

Fiction =/= Realism

>>39784959
Science trying to cure cancer = zombies
Science experimentiing on animals= zombies
It all makes complete sense.

>>39784992
That spell has to be specially cast and it only hides them in certain places. It basically makes a whole building invisible instead of just a person. Unless they have an invisibility cloak, but iirc only Harry had one of those. Also there is some fanon that Dumbledore may be able to become invisible but that is fanon.

>>39784964
Because that's not how 99.999999999999% of magic users work

>>39784984
How is the magic user going to hear the gun shot before the sound has traveled to his ears?

>>39784941
Do any actually do that? Most magic users have to do an incantation in order to perform magic.

Shinigami are impossible. Rubber pirates are impossible. Ninja with magical powers are impossible. What's your point OP?

Zombies could work because the virus that causes zombification could, in theory, work like a mitochondrion and produce a chemical similar to Adenosine TriPhosphate.

That's why I always liked Resident Evil zombies. It stated in the files you read that they weren't dead, just had next to zero brain activity and were overly agressive.

>>39785042
>Implying the Quidditch world cup camping grounds were not a gigantic open field full of wizards and witches

>>39784634
While your Christian God's promise of eternal life is rather promising, the Papua New Guinean mud god, Pikkiwoki, has promised me a pig, along with as many coconuts as I can carry.

>>39785101
>implying they didn't have muggle repelling charms placed all around it.

>>39785042
>implying the Hogwarts grounds, Diagon Alley, Quidditch World Cup arena/grounds, etc aren't all wide open spaces

>>39785079
>Because that's not how 99.999999999999% of magic users work
I don't think you understand what is magic

>>39785045
Actually its more like
Left hand = sex puppet

>>39785079 Most magic users have to do an incantation in order to perform magic.

Only third-rate wizards need to say the words.

>>39784984
You're not a wizard, stop limiting what they can do

>>39785079


They can cast spells that shield them from muggle detection whenever they enter an area that might have muggles.

They do it all the time in the last book

>>39785115
>implying a half-Muggle like Harry or a Muggleborn like Hermione (lol, female snipers) couldn't have trained to use a rifle.

Hell it could be even more devastating because you could make it lock onto them and/or do other gruesome stuff on impact.

My theory: the zombi-ism is actually caused by a powerful neurotoxin that effectively turns off all the brain's higher cognitive functions and heavily increases aggression. Their able to metabolism is cranked up which gives them more strength, and was appears as necrosis is actually meant to make them more durable, since they were probably bio-engineered. When shot or stabbed, they do suffer damage, only it doesn't appear so because they're so hopped up on aggression-inducing hormones.

>>39784220

i know right

>>39785136
Nice reading comprehension

Wizards vs Velociraptors

Who would win?

>>39784860
Kiritsugu probably killed quite a few Magus like that, though with Kayneth, his liquid mercury shield was automatic, if I recall correctly.

HEADS UP TO MAGIC SUPPORTERS-

THE FAE ARE WEAK TO IRON YO

>Sniper sneak attack
>Assuming all magic must be consciously cast
>Implying auto-cast/activated magic does not exist
>Implying harry potter magic is the only brand of magic

This has zombies in it?

>>39785079


Harry was the only one with a perfect invisibility cloak that never faded over time

Others existed

>>39785136
oops, was meant for

>>39785079

>>39784691

It's never been tried, so who knows, maybe not.

Problem is, it acts too quickly to be genetic. It's most likely some kind of toxin or poison.

I love night /a/

>>39785186
I'm not a wizard but I've read a ton of stories involving them.

They work well in a medieval environment but in a modern one they'd be toast.

Why do the zombies not fight each other?

>>39784964
The Culexus Temple would have a word with you.

>>39785249
EVERYONE IS COMRADE

>>39785131
BEST MERLIN EVER.

>>39785238
>Invisibility cloak
>Alohamora through any locks/security
>Assassinate anyone
>Blackmail any muggle government

J.K. Rowling already stated that if wizards and muggles went to war, the wizards would get their shit pushed in. Wizards may be superior to muggles when it comes to just about everything, but when it comes to killing, muggles have always been top tier.

>>39785310

Source?

i watch HoTD for the plot

>>39785310
gun > wand

>>39785340
I hope you realize that Word of God states that some random fuckass with a shotgun would beat a master wizard fighter in a duel.

>>39785310
because J.K Rowling is the basis for all humans vs wizard debates right?

>>39785403
JK Rowling wrote the best wizard stories so yeah

>implying the harry desden the wizard dosn't carry a gun

>>39785426
Tolkien would have a word with you.

Yes OP, I would imagine that most of us have graduated elementary school and understand the basics of ATP.

>Adenosine TriPhosphate
>catalyst

>forget about myosin
>forget about creatinine phosphate
>forget about bacteria
>forget about anaerobic metabolism

>trying to apply science to a zombie series in the first place
>green text
>my face

>>39785436
and ware sniper proof clothes

haha what the fuck would the muggles even do.

the wizards could just teleport around assassinating everybody left and right

>>39785403
I wasn't the one who first brought up Harry Potter in this thread. But aside from the wizards who can wipe their asses with the fabric of reality (seriously, why even call them wizards at that point, just call them God), I believe a gun could destroy just about any magic user.

>>39785478
>and ware sniper proof clothes

Trust me, I'm from /k/, and no.

>>39785426 thinks Harry Potter is best story with wizards ever

You should read Robert E. Howard or H.P. Lovecraft, it is shit-tons better than your "made to get little kids to read" fantasy bullshit.

>>39785481
>Implying we wouldnt have phaze inhibitors
We'd put up phaze inhibitors.

>>39785295
>Bribe disgruntled wizard to reveal secrets of magic
>magic enhanced guns that never run out of ammo
>ammo in question being magic enhanced bullets capable of homing in on wizards
>This is only the most basic shit
Magic+technology > technology > magic

>>39785521
MAGIC

>>39785512
The Emperor demands eternal vigilance against the alien, the heretic, and the mutant.

>>39785546
This. Why would wizards in the modern era not use modern weaponry as wands?

>>39785536

wizard just be like

"it's magic dude, you can't stop me from stylin' with science" and teleports away

>>39785481
And the muggles can raze entire lands with the push of a button. Which wizard can do that?

>>39785512
Daemons and heretics shall fall before us.

>>39785426
doesn't prove anything

I could get a very obscure "fanfic" depicting a wizard that is, because of his/her magic, makes him immortal, have a magic barrier that will reflect any incoming damage, and clearly states he's a "second rate wizard".

And the reason why this work shouldn't be considered would be?

>>39785579
Or even develop wands using modern weaponry?

>>39785589


you don't even know which lands to raze.

nowhere to land your armies, to drop your bombs. . .

muggles would be screwed

>HostD thread turns into Harry Potter thread

IT'S LIKE I'M ON K

>>39785597
>implying that you could prove something when it comes to an argument over what wizards could or could not do.

Wizards can control zombie armies though, right? This has been proven at least?

>>39784860
YOU ARE A FOOL!!!
MAGIC MUST DEFEAT MAGIC!!

Wow, the amount of incorrect Harry Potter talk in here is making me sick. None of you people know what you're fucking talking about. Honestly, shut up.
Thread completely derailed.
Saged and reported for not even remotely /a/ related.

>>39785546
Why would a wizard be bribed by muggles? Anything muggles can offer, a wizard can take it without consent.

A ton of gold/money? Teleport to where it's stashed, grab, teleport away again.

Secrets to technology? Teleport + kidnap scientists or Teleport + take whatever documents.

>>39785622


they can in harry potter

>>39785622
because no wizard through known works existed with mind controlling abilities

>>39785618
Not sure if I'm glad that I derailed it or not.
What confuses me most though is it went to Harry Potter and not to animu.

So this went from how do zombies exist to Wizards vs. The World. Nice guys.

But zombies can be created.

get regular people, insert drill on brain, lobotomize brain to the point where primal instincts become honed while this happen specimens will be enraged and will be in zombie state.

even though you cant spread the symptoms like a virus. you can develop a injection that can attack the brain and develop a biological reproduction of the injection when bitten

but for that you need nanobots or something similar. at this point of time we dont have the that technology but give it 50years or so. that when you can have clinical created zombie.

Ahh...all these limitations...this is why wizards are third-rate magic users

>>39785655
Fine then. The wizard is tranq'd, his wand is broken, and he's tortured to reveal whatever the muggles want to know. Then they put a bullet in his head to keep him quiet.

>>39785655
Why would a scientist be bribed by the soviet union? Anything they can offer, he can earn for himself with successful work on advanced weapons designs or steal with the power of SCIENCE!

Face it, people are greedy bastards, wizard or not. They might not be willing to steal for themselves, but if offered money for what they consider basic shit, they'll take it.

>>39785680

Harry Potter & Twilight do not make up an exhaustive list of known works.

>>39785706

lol

>>39785655
What kind of wizard would want secrets of technology?

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this thread is such a shit fest. STOP HALLUCINATING FAGGOTS!

>>39785706
This tends to kill the person.

>my face when shitty wizards need wants to produce magic
YOUR SOUL IS MINE

>>39785746
>
Why would a scientist be bribed by the soviet union? Anything they can offer, he can earn for himself with successful work on advanced weapons designs or steal with the power of SCIENCE!
Because a scientist can't get what he wants with the power of science. He needs funding, support, etc...A wizard CAN get whatever he wants from muggles.

>>39785761
A smart one who knows it'll give him the edge over his technologically impaired peers.

>>39785746
your example is under the limitation that people don't process magic, BUT for magic users, even if they are greedy, they have the power to steal whatever you are "bribing" them with

>>39785619
No, /a/non, you ARE /k/.

>>39785793
Honestly I hope you're an elaborate troll, if not you're the dumbest shit in the thread. =/

>>39785806
Aren't wizards usually the ones who a magic purists?
The ones who keep it secret from the majority because it makes them better?

>Muggles: "WE HAVE A SECRET, IT'S NOT DOCUMENTED ANYWHERE AND WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU UNLESS YOU LISTEN TO US?"
>Wizard: "Shut up, muggle". "CRUCIO", after knocking them out, give them a dose of truth syrum, hear whatever information you want.

Wizards can't even apparate more than a couple miles

Muggles kidnap/capture some wizards and force them to put up anti-magic charms at their important locations and take out the very small wizard population (it's only a couple of thousand in Britain) using their far superiour tactics and killing instruments

>>39785817
Most people don't like to steal.

>>39785907
study's show most people like to steal.

>>39785886


How are you going to kidnap or force them to do anything?

>>39785886
>Implying magical inhabited areas are not invisible to muggles no matter what without the consent of the one who cast the spell.

>>39785919
Then why haven't you robbed a bank? It takes several robberies before police can identify the robber, even with all kinds of security shit in place. Unless you're retarded, you'll get away with at least one.

I would leave the eradication of the heretic psyker "wizards" to the Adeptus Sororitas, the Sisters of Battle.

>>39785881
>implying the muggle wouldn't have a gun if they were trying to guard a secret from wizards
>implying the wizard's brains wouldn't decorate the walls the second he lifted his wand

Gun is faster than wand, word of god states it so.

>>39785851
> =/
Stop that.

>>39785925
Kidnap and threaten their children or other loved ones who are relatively defenseless.

Plus, you are all forgetting one thing in this wizard vs muggle war: half-bloods and muggleborns. Who do you think somebody like Hermione or Harry would side with:
a) Wizard society which is dominated by pure blood politics and despises them to the point of many of them outright supporting the genocide of muggles and muggleborns
b) Muggles, including one or both of their parents and half their family, who will promise them that they only want to kill off the "evil" ones and will leave the rest alone? Whether the Muggles keep their word is another discussion entirely, of course

>>39785964


If I could teleport, be invisible and all that shit I'd rob everyone.

>>39785964
Because they probably couldn't get away with it?

>>39785964
Bank robberies are not usually successful.
>http://www.criminal-law-lawyer-source.com/terms/bank_robbery.html
>Bank robberies have a low success rate. According to the Uniform Crime Reporting Program, 58 percent of all those who commit bank robbery are arrested
>58%
Yeah, no. That's at terrible gamble.

>>39786017
Well considering harry's family was shit tier, and Hermione brainwashed her family to forget about her, they might not be the best example. Though all it takes is a few.

>>39786017

>Kidnap and threaten their children or other loved ones who are relatively defenseless.

How the hell are you going to find them?

>>39786017
>Kidnap and threaten their children or other loved ones who are relatively defenseless.
>Implying wizard children and wizards in general are not usually in wizard communities where anti-muggle detection spells are cast 24/7
Moron

>>39786046
This is why the public enemies were awesome. Robbed banks for YEARS.

>>39785964
regardless of how you think robbing a bank is easy, in people's minds, there is a RISK

There is little to none risk when it comes to stealing with magic

>>39786046
After multiple successful attempts. Odds of a bank robber with no prior criminal record who only strikes once getting arrested are low.

>>39786130
>58%
>low
Alright, never mind. I'm talking to a wall here.

Wizards hide themselves from muggles for reason. Muggles are the true master race. With every technological advancement they make, magic becomes more obsolete. How many wizards have been to space? Muggles did that shit 50 years ago.

>>39786130
58% is fairly high.

>>39786071
Every year the wizarding population brings their most vulnerable members to a muggle dominated area.

And we've seen that wizards aren't the most responsible as parents (I see to remember one year early on, Harry and Ron being left alone at the station and having to steal Ron's dad's car to get to school) or guardians (Hogwarts teachers were especially bad and absent-minded) so it shouldn't be too hard.

>>39786158
Muggles and magic are mutually exclusive. Technology and wizards, however, is not. Wizards can have all of the glorious achievements of muggles work for them as well as use magic, muggles can't do that.

>>39786108
It took this long for someone to say that?
And there's no risk in magic?
>Teleport in
>guy with a gun is there.
>he shoots you.
>bad end
It's the same shit. It doesn't matter whether you can do it, it's the chance you'll get caught. In the mind of a wizard, there is still a risk. A bribe though? Not as risky.

>>39786196
>Invisibility cloak
>anti-bullet spell
Done

>>39786216
>anti bullet spell
Doesn't exist.

>>39786193
>Wizards can have all of the glorious achievements of muggles work for them

That's great, but they don't. Hell Ron's dad specializes in learning about muggles and he barely knows more than the average muggle child. The only exception would be someone raised as a muggle like Harry, and that's a pretty big exception.

>>39786271
So this is just a Harry Potter wizard thread?

>>39786271
Bullets are projectiles
Anti-projectile spells exist
ergo, bullet-protection spells exist

lol, pretend i'm a wizard

Now bribe me.

>>39786271
Shielding spells exist, also, invisiblity cloaks would do the job fine alone. Can't see or know that anyone is there? Tough luck, guns are useless.

>Invisibility cloak
>teleport
>Hypnosis/freeze spell on gunmen just in case
>Take whatever while under cloak and teleport
Done

>>39786169
>>39786151
What part of that's not the percentage of bank robberies that get foiled, but the percentage of bank robbers that are caught do you not understand? You know what the 42% that don't get caught have in common? They don't go out and rob 8 banks. They rob one or two then stop. The police can't identify them, they can't determine a pattern, they escape. regardless, the actual number isn't important. What's important is most people, don't rob banks even though they can probably get away with it.

>>39786316
Most people don't rob banks because they do not think they are competent to get away with it.

Their perception is based on video footage of scenes involving gun shots, both real and from Hollywood. There are lots of things people would do if they thought they could get away with it.

Cheating on your taxes is something lots of people do because they think they can get away with it.

>>39786196
You are a shitty magic user if you pick such a shitty spot, let alone walk in without any magic protection

Actually, you are PRETTY shitty if you can't even steal using magic without anyone noticing

Thinkers like you are why robbers get caught so easily, pushing that percentage up to 58%

>>39786309
>Invisibility cloak
Rare shit most wizards don't have
>teleport
Congrats, you just went in blindly with no clue what's waiting.
>Hypnosis/freeze spell on gunmen just in case
You sure your spell is faster than his gun?
>Take whatever while under cloak and teleport
What if someone else comes in while your at it?
>done
Unless you're not.

Another thread derailed into science vs. magic... But at least it was a High School of the Dead thread, so nothin' of value was lost.

Hey, bank robber guy.

Why don't you go rob a bank and post a thread about it? You can post a stack of cash, we'll be convinced.

>>39786096
>This is why the public enemies were awesome. Robbed banks for YEARS.
lolwut

Dillinger started robbing banks on September 22, 1933. He was killed July 22, 1934.

Baby Face Nelson did his first major bank robbery on August 18, 1933. He was killed November 27, 1934.

Bonnie and Clyde started robbing banks in May 1933. They were both killed May 23, 1934.

The Barkers were relatively successful if you consider that only 5 of the ~25 were killed, but most of the rest were imprisoned.

Evolution of virus will find a way to overlook that. It just takes time and creative utilization of specific proteins.

See, you're not the only one who can sound like a smart ass.

>>39786316
Could you help me look for the bit where it mentions robbing eight banks? Or are you talking about a different source?

>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457
>>39786457

>>39786463
Wow 1933 was hell of a fucking year. Cheers to them.

Okay... So maybe Romarro and Fulci zombies wouldn't survive... But what about RAGE zombies from 28 days/weeks/months later... They seem pretty alive, just mad as fuck

>>39786435 You sure your spell is faster than his gun?

Always.

The attacker always has the reaction advantage.
If you had a gun to the back of my head, and you were just holding it there with no intent to shoot me, I could move the gun away from me before you could pull the trigger.

The delay in human synapses from when you realize something is happening, to when you can act on it, allows the person who makes a move out of the blue to always strike first.

>>39786463
Public Enemies was one of the worst movies that came out last year.

>>39786392
Exactly. The actual numbers don't matter. So why is this any different for wizards? They're still human. They don't have a very different way of thinking. As such they're more likely to take a bribe for some basic magic shit that to them is worthless than just steal shit.

lol, you wouldn't even need to teleport in.

I could walk right in the front door, disable whoever, grab my shit, and teleport my way back to wizard land

>>39786540
because
>>39786413

>>39786521
>This is what idiots who get shot when they're held up because they try stupid shit actually think.

best site 4ever

http://www.anime-girls.de.ki

>>39786583
>Implying those kinds of people are wizards
>Gun pointed at a wizard
>Teleport
>lolwhat

>>39786540

see

>>39786307

Muggle master race here.We can eliminate all you magic wielding faggots if we want to.

>>39786583
To be fair, a person appearing out of nowhere might stun you momentarily.
Or freak you into shooting them.

Sunlight gets into Diagon Alley and Hogwards, right? So that means electromagnetic radiation can enter the area.

Solution: Detonate a nuke over the area, use chemical weapons, etc. Make the entire place uninhabitable and then hunt down the survivors.

>>39786619
We have tonnes of nice shiny gold, wouldn't you like it?
You can have it without getting horribly maimed by your magic police.

>>39786196
>Left Room- 15 Guards chilling on donuts
>Right Room- the safes
LOL LETS TELEPORT TO THE LEFT ROOM

>>39786521
>Held a gun to the back of my head
Only idiots and rapists do that.

>>39786658


try to justifiy nuking an area because you think there MIGHT be wizards there.

go on i dare you

>>39786658
>Detonate a nuke over the area, use chemical weapons
>Implying muggles where know where to aim in the first place
Funny

>>39786669

pfft

nigga what do you think i need to buy

>>39786457
I would not do that, because unlike you I have a code of ethics that is not based on simple fear of punishment. Whether I can or not is irrelevant. It is morally wrong to do so.

>>39786480
The reason most bank robbers get caught is they get sloppy as they have more successful robberies, leaving behind physical evidence, and as more robberies occur, police can establish a pattern for the robber. Even something as basic as where the banks are can help establish where the robber lives. This can't be done with just one random bank. More robberies = more data = more likely to get caught. It even says so in that article.

>The more often an offender commits bank robbery, the more likely it is that s/he will be caught.

>>39786694
Body shots can still produce fatal wounds, so it would be wiser to aim there right?

>>39786688
And how do you know there are 15 guards in the left room, and none are going to be checking on the safe?

>>39786732
Some would argue that such codes of ethics ultimately come from fear of punishment.

On that other point, that's quite obvious, an increase of such would result in an increase of such.
Though I still need help finding the bit that talks about eight robberies.

>>39786612
>Implying those kinds of people are wizards
>Gun pointed at a wizard
>wizard starts to wave wand
>wizard gets shot
>lol wat

Deatheaters > muggles w/ guns?

>>39786695
The major areas (Hogwarts, Diagon Alley, Hogsmeade) are guaranteed to have a ton of wizards there. Take those 3 places out and you could decimate the population.

Consider this: There are supposedly 1000 students at Hogwarts at any given time. This is about 143 students per year (of course it's bullshit because everybody is always in the same class with everybody else, so it's probably only a couple hundred students, but I disgress.

Even if you ignore the fact that there is likely a baby boom going on since the war is ended and more and more people will be having children, that gives a wizarding population of 14,285. Most of whom are useless rather than battle hardened wizards like the Death Eaters or Harry Potter.

Considering the war just ended though, it's likely the numbers are only in the couple of thousands, most of them young and not well trained.

>>39786810


you don't need to wave the wand to teleport dude

>These scenarios about shooting wizards
Hey, guys. Remember how wizards can levitate things and make them work without touching? (Ron's mom cooking/doing chores).

Why not just, I dunno, teleport out of sight of the guards, fly a few guns towards them, and shoot the fuck out of them while you stay hidden under an invisibility cloak or anti-muggle detection spell?

Yeah.

>>39786583
This is what the chair brigade thinks because they have never actually tried this with paintball guns in a self defense seminar.

so people who say that wizards would eradicate the humans: what about the muggle-borns/half bloods (mud bloods) who make up something like 75% of the population? Do you think people like Harry and Hermione would side with their parents and family or the purebloods (who run the Ministry) that constantly make their lives hell?

>>39786844


The kicker here is that you don't actually know where any of these places are

Magicians are power whores, we'd promise them high positions in our governments and then burn them with the rest after they've given us secrets.

>>39786856
Muggles don't know what guns are. They think they are just some sort of wand

>>39786844
>Implying humans can detect where those places are in the first place
>Implying even most wizards can get to Hogwarts without the Hogwarts run Hogwarts express or help from powerful wizards such as dumbledore.

>>39786878
I don't think they give a damn about those characters.

>>39786880
The British government at the very least does. They were apprised of the situation with Voldemort during the last book (and presumably in the 80s during the first "war")

>>39786903
Ron and Harry got their in his dad's flying car

>>39786770
Why would anyone put guards inside a safe room, there's no need to have guards there, because no one expects people to "teleport" into the safe room

secondly, I'd rather teleport directly into the safes

>>39786808
It was a made up number to illustrate the point that the robbers that commit more robberies are the ones more likely to get caught. 8 isn't a magic number that marks the point between getting caught and not getting caught.

>In the novels, Hogwarts is located somewhere in Scotland.[10][11] The school has numerous charms and spells on and around it that make it impossible for a Muggle (i.e., a non-magical person) to locate it — they can't see the school, only ruins and several warnings of danger
>The school has numerous charms and spells on and around it that make it impossible for a Muggle

>>39786969
Don't underestimate the power of technology

>>39786732
>I would not do that, because unlike you I have a code of ethics
Good for you, and I'm happy for you, because if you'd ever tried to rob a bank, based from your way of thinking, you would be part of that 58%

>>39786994
>impossible for a Muggle
>impossible
It's cannonically impossible, faggot. Get over it.

If you have a 58% chance of getting caught after one robbery, you have a 77% chance of getting caught after two. You have an 89% chance of getting caught after three. You have a 95% chance of getting caught after four. And so on.

>>39786969
>Area can't be seen
>I wonder if there might be wizards there
>no civilians around
>Bomb it to be sure
>just according to plan

>Area can't be seen
>I wonder if there might be terrorists there
>no civilians around
>Bomb it to be sure
>just according to plan
Try that in reality, faggot.

>>39786860
>It worked like that in a controlled setting, so it'll work liek that in real life.

>>39787088
Isn't it similar enough?

>>39786960
I see. I thought you might have had another source on someone who decided to rob eight banks.

>>39787076
The first condition doesn't apply to real life. There are no magic blank spots on a map.

>>39787035


>NEWS REPORT

>President Anon has recently bombed several ruins for suspicion of wizard activity.

>Meanwhile the population slips further into despair at the president's actions.

>>39787109


They aren't blank spots.

They look like normal areas

>>39787105
No, it really isn't. What makes you think the guy wiht the gun is going to be dumb enough to hold it right up to your head, rather than stand back a few feet? It's a ranged weapon, and standing back means he can better observe your actions, and have more time to react.

I like how this went from zombies to Harry Potter

Are you faggots actually arguing about magic versus nonmagic? Really?
It's magic, you stupid fucks. It isn't real; it can do whatever the writer wants it to do.
WE ALREADY HAVE A MEME FOR THIS
IT HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED IN THIS THREAD

>>39787172
That can't happen in controlled settings?

>>39786196
>You are a wizard with many kinds of magic capable of stealing in stealth

LOL I'M GOING TO TELEPORT IN FRONT OF THIS GUY WHO HAS A GUN

You sir, are fucking retarded.

>>39785627
/thread

>>39787190
Controlled settings are controlled for a reason. You eliminate the variables to only test the ones you want. That guy holding the gun in the controlled setting for instance is going to try to react in time, nothing more, so you can be sure he isn't just going to shoot because he randomly feels like it. He's not going to be making unexpected moves himself. In a real situation, he might.

>magic versus guns
>implying I don't already have my anti-projectile spell on

>>39787206
You're assuming he knows the guy with the gun is there and there is no way to defeat this stealth with technological means. Neither of those are necessarily the case.

>>39787269
>Implying you have one to begin with.
>Implying it's strong enough to stop any bullet

Wait wait

>Implying wizards even need to put themselves in danger

>Summon magical creature
>Send to humans
>lolz ensues

What the hell is a guy with a gun or a nuke going to do to a Dementor? Nothing but the patronus works on them. And by definition, muggles can't use a patronus.

>Send a hoard of dementors at any muggle institution
>Go over later to do whatever the fuck you want

>>39787269
>implying that's air you're breathing, and not the highly fatal nerve gas I developed

>walk into store being a wizard and shit

>start making glowly lights and shit

>bitches all "WOAH THAT's SO COOL"

>I'm like psssh whateva

>walk down to the vidya games and grab about a dozen

>look like I'm going to the cashier and teleport away to wizard house

>use face changing spells to do this hundreds of times.

>>39787258
Reaction speed is all that's being tested, isn't it?
Those other variables aren't what was being argued over were they?

>>39787312
Checkmate

lol muggles

>>39787312
>What the hell is a guy with a gun or a nuke going to do to a Dementor?

He'll go to Hershey, Pennsylvania.

>>39787330
Reaction speed isn't the only factor in a real world situation though. Hence why thinking it is can get you shot if you actually try it on someone with a gun.

>>39787312
Done deal, reaction time doesn't even matter. Immortal things that can only be fended off by magic.

>>39787312
>>39787312
>>39787312
>>39787312
>>39787312
>>39787312

>>39787287
lol that's right, guards will be inside a safe room, motivately patrolling the room while wearing heat sensor goggles, expecting people to teleport in and out

>>39787443
They don't generally do that because it doesn't usually happen. However, if people teleporting in and stealing shit is a common problem, then they would take steps to counter that, would they not?

>>39787443
Lazers could be used to detect cloaked beings
meaning visible lazers would be shot from each wall as a grid and obviously they'd stop and hit someone who teleports in giving you knowledge of his position.

>>39787482
>implying I wouldn't be teleporting directly into the safes, or maybe even teleporting some summons just for the lulz

>>39787526
>Lazers could be used to detect cloaked beings
[Citation Needed]
Also,
>Lazers

>>39787526
They don't actually do that outside hollywood.

>>39787312
I thought dementors only worked on scared pussys?

>>39785589

I'm sure there are some magics in the dark arts that can do that.

Hell iirc there was that one fire spell that was strong enough to destroy horucrux and the fire was alive and would even attack the user.

>>39787555
They dont do that but it could be done.

>>39787560
Dementors work on anyone, why do you think Azkaban was guarded by them?

>>39787607
Honestly, I thought dementors only worked if people had a dark past.

But I never really got into Harry Potter

>>39787540
visible laZers usually stop when they hit solid matter rather than shine through it, dont they?

>>39787555
>implying that there are cloaked wizards outside of hollywood to test lasers on

>>39787635
No, they feed of your happy moments, leaving only shit in your soul.

>>39783227
JOKES ON YOU ZOMBIE BLOOD DOESN'T COAGULATE, YOU CAN SEE THEM BLEED

>>39787682
>http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/laser

>stop when they hit solid matter rather than shine through it, dont they?
>mfw you've never heard of glass or crystals
>mfw you think normal physics works on fucking MAGIC

>>39787693
I laughed heartily.
>>39787733
fml but the only thing I can remember actually cloaking them was that silly cloak, and it doesnt shift them into another existance parelel or some shit they were actually standing there.

/a/ - wizzads and shit

FLAWLESS LOGIC... assuming that all things true in this world are also true in an animated show about tits and guns ect.

>>39787794
Sorry to point this out to ya but this world revolves around tits and guns, not justt that show.

>this thread
And you guys thought Raildex's SCIENCE discussions were bad...

Have any of you arguing about wizards beating gun-users actually read the damn books?

Harry Potter constantly dodges wand-shots, or the magic users fighting him just plain miss. However, every wand-shot requires the magic words being spoken out loud. Guns, while arguably having the same accuracy as wands, have enough ammunition in their magazines and work easily and quickly enough to turn the demand for magic words into a serious disadvantage for wands.

You could argue that a creative wizard could disable the gun-users by simply making use of normal spells to get the advantage (lifting tables and throwing them at the gun-users or whatever), but this requires the wizard to be creative, and in the books I don´t quite remember any of the Deatheaters being creative during direct combat, nevermind the good guys.


And then, there is the fact (correct me if I´m wrong) that the muggle government does not necessarily know jackshit about wizards. The Prime Minister of Great Britain is in direct contact with the Minister of Magic. There is a possibility that the Minister of Magic shares knowledge and items with magic properties with him just to be safe in case a wizard goes rogue and starts blowing muggles up. What did Rowling say about this, besides muggles absolutely demolishing magic users canonically?

>>39787924
look at
>>39787312

>>39787953
>Dementors
>Implying they're a huge threat
>They typically just make people depressed
Try again

>>39787953
hey
>>39787312
above arguement is completeley flawed because there are six billion people in this world and only a handful of dementors. We'd eventually destroy both them and their wizard masters

some pasta:

There may be another way of repelling a Dementor besides the Patronus Charm, as Harry Potter disagreed with Professor Snape on the best method for confronting one when it was the subject of a report in his sixth year.[2] This implied that there were other methods, which seemed further likely given that most Dark Wizards were apparently unable (or unwilling) to produce a Patronus.

>>39788020
>Dementors can perform the Dementor's Kiss, where the Dementor latches its mouth onto a victim's lips and sucks out the person's soul. One such Dementor nearly succeeded in defeating Harry Potter using this method. The victim is left as an empty shell, incapable of thought and with no possibility of recovery. It is believed that existing after a Dementor's Kiss is worse than death.
Try again

>>39787953
>Summon magical creature
>Send to humans
>lolz ensues

You would think if that was such a great battle tactic, they would have done it at least once in the... six, seven books the saga has? But they haven´t done it once.

Wizards are SHIT at fighting. They are excellent for being sneaky little fucks, but when it comes to standing up and fighting, all the advantages of magic go away. Including the brains to use it creatively.


>Send a hoard of dementors at any muggle institution
>Go over later to do whatever the fuck you want

First: dementors are limited in number. Second: their loyalty is nowhere near guaranteed. If it ever comes down to a global war between muggles and wizards, why do you think the dementors are going to side with the wizards? Or, actually, with anybody? With all the chaos going on, they are better off enjoying the buffet than acting as some kind of special forces.

Also, correct me if I´m wrong, but it´s not like ALL wizards know how to do a patronus, right?

So what am I supposed to get from the story, do Wizards run and control Muggle Society behind the scene or is the the other way around? Because, it doesn't seem like shit gets much done elsewhere since only the UK seems to hold the most influence in wizard society.

>>39788058
>
above arguement is completeley flawed because there are six billion people in this world and only a handful of dementors. We'd eventually destroy both them and their wizard masters
>Destroy
Dementors are immortal, I M M O R T A L.

> We'd eventually destroy both them and their wizard masters
First, come up with a way to detect the area in which wizards are in the first place. Wait, no you can't. They're canonically impossible to reach by human's. Dementors can be sent out with orders while wizards stay in their protected zones, dementors can take their sweet time defeating muggles.

.>>39788127
>By muggles
is what I meant

>>39788119
>You would think if that was such a great battle tactic, they would have done it at least once in the... six, seven books the saga has? But they haven´t done it once.
Read again, they did do it.

>First: dementors are limited in number. Second: their loyalty is nowhere near guaranteed. If it ever comes down to a global war between muggles and wizards, why do you think the dementors are going to side with the wizards? Or, actually, with anybody? With all the chaos going on, they are better off enjoying the buffet than acting as some kind of special forces.
Side with the guys that can patronas me, or the ones that can't patronas me, and I can eat as many of them as I want? I think any creature will go for the latter option.

Wizards can't win, not just because muggles are better at fighting, but because the muggles outnumber them a million to one. This is why wizard society is kept a secret.

>>39788214
>Side with the guys who can beat me, or eliminate the only threat to my existence?

>>39788127

Dementors were said to grow like fungi in the darkest dankest places, creating a dense chilly fog. It was said to be impossible to destroy a Dementor, but their numbers could be limited by eradicating the conditions that allowed them to multiply, implying that they died off eventually

We'd nuke the forests and get rid of them, no loss there.

And dementors have to be controlled by a wizard to be effective in any way. NO COMFORT FOR U!

>>39788236
>Side with the guys who can beat me, or eliminate the only threat to my existence?
>Beat me
I M M O R T A L

>>39788250
>implying "beat" means "kill"

>>39788243
>Implying there is any way for muggles to know the properties of Dementors.

>>39788127
>First, come up with a way to detect the area in which wizards are in the first place
Electronic stuff doesn't work near magic places. Find the rest yourself. Protip : in Gundam 00, they found the quatuor this way.

>>39788250
Lore sez no.

>Implying numbers limited means defeated
No dementor has ever died/been destroyed. They are immortal. Being limited in numbers does not mean they are not immortal.

>J.K.Rowling said:"You cannot destroy Dementors, though you can limit their numbers if you eradicate the conditions in which they multiply, ie, despair and degradation."
>limit numbers
>nowhere does it say destroyed/defeated

>>39788287
Lore sez yes.

>>39788330
I cant recall anybody proving they were immortal, other ways of defeating/killing them have been heavily hinted at, and with their numbers so limited they wouldnt even be able to put a dent in the muggle populace.

>>39788383
Just got proved here, bro.
>>39788363

Goddammit. There are only a handful of Dementors compared to the 6 billion+ muggles in the world. If there were a fullscale war between wizards and muggles, dementors would be a non-issue, even if they sucked out human souls all day everyday.

>>39788424
>Implying numbers even matter
An invincible, unstoppable weapon is enough to make the world surrender. Do you think any non-nuclear country is going to wage war on a nuclear country that's not afraid to use it? Dementors are even less stoppable than nukes.

>>39788214
>Read again, they did do it.

When did they do it?


>Side with the guys that can patronas me, or the ones that can't patronas me, and I can eat as many of them as I want? I think any creature will go for the latter option.

Again, is the Patronus a widely-available spell, or a special one that most wizards don´t know? Most Patronus used in the saga belonged to high-ranking, or specially prepared wizards. As far as I remember, Lupin taught his class in the third book about Patronus, but think carefully about this: it probably was because Lupin did not trust Dementors. However, Dementors are a tool of the Ministry, and why would the Ministry start talking shit about one of their tools and teaching the average wizard how to counter them when what that´s going to do is scare the wizards about what the Ministry is doing, and possibly incite uncomfortable questions?

Think. The Ministry is using SOUL-SUCKERS. It is the closest thing to having your government using THE DAEMONS. And also, when Voldemort was supposed to have come back, the Ministry, instead of improving Defence Against the Dark Arts, demolished the course.

The Ministry of Magic are cowards who, when faced with the possibility of war, bet on hogging all the power to themselves. This would make useful spells more scarce, meaning the average wizard gets worse tools to defend himself. Specially against the Ministry´s tools, which again, are...?

Also, AGAIN. DEMENTORS ARE NOT LOYAL TO THE MINISTRY, they are pretty much an independent faction. And if there is a war, that´s just the perfect opportunity for them. Wizards and muggles would be defenseless against them in the chaos. The Patronus spell, being relatively rare, does not factor in the same way it did NOT factor in when they decided to serve Lord Voldemort instead of the Ministry.

Telegank, telebombs, and mind control should wreck any sort of organized resistance that muggles can set up.

>>39788452
Dementors are nowhere near the scale of nuclear weapons. It would take a dementor years to destroy the same number of lives a single nuke could. And yes, numbers do matter, especially when the death of 1 wizard is equivalent to the death of a million muggles.

>>39788488
>Dementors are nowhere near the scale of nuclear weapons. It would take a dementor years to destroy the same number of lives a single nuke could. And yes, numbers do matter, especially when the death of 1 wizard is equivalent to the death of a million muggles.
>Implying unstoppable weapons pointed at the throat of world leaders isn't effective
You're really funny

Oh for God's sakes. The wizards just teleport to all of the world leaders and put them under the Imperius Curse. Game over.

>>39788542
If the Dementors were sent after innocent people, half-bloods and muggleborns would step in and stop it.

>>39788488

Why send them to kill random people when you could just use them to target high ranking officials and leaders?

Wizards couldn't even stop World War I and II from happening. What makes you think they can control the entire world leaders in just an instant? Hell, why would they let Muggle terrorists reign free even? Face it, the ones who influence the wizarding community are all a bunch of ancient old fucks with outdated conceptions/practices of running society and still can find themselves amazed/confounded at what regular Muggle society can accomplish (i.e. technology)

Evil is never vanquished completely and always comes back. Here's hoping for the next Voldemort to appear.

>>39788542
>>39788594
Pretty sure the world leaders would go into hiding at that point. They could still issue commands through telecommunication because the wizards don't know shit about that. Hiding from dementors wouldn't be too difficult unless they have your scent.

>>39788635
>Implying they cared about WW1 and WW2.
Also, Grindelwald was their equivalent of Hitler. They had other problems.

>>39783227

Obviously the virus causes complex mutations and they can produce ATP anaerobically, one of the complications being rotting. There, I proved you wrong. OP is a faggot.

>>39788785
Someone hasn't read the thread.

>>39788785

Why are you talking about chemistry in a Harry Potter thread?

This thread is amazing

Wow, /a/ has so many harry potter experts.

I'm truly glad this thread is dying.

The dead shall walk the earth when hell is full.

>>39785249
You would rather go for rotting meat than fresh meat? If you play RE. Some of them were munching on each other until you come along.

did someone said zombie? we know how to make them

To counter the "zombies rot hence they will become immobile within the first few days" arguement, what happens if these zombies were infected with R.A.G.E.?