>I found the first series to be far superior

This is like the cliff notes version of "BROTHERHOOD INFERIOR".

>>39122933
>>39122933

>>39122963
Explain faggot.

>>39123035
Brotherhood:

>Better animation
>Better storyline
>Better characterisation
>Better action scenes
>Better music
>Better ending

>>39122963
>>39123020
Listen you turbine faggots: OP's opinion was the standard opinion of /a/ for most of the run of Brotherhood. The only reason it changed is because most FMA fanfags are weak minded jackasses who got too into Brotherhood and forgot how much better the original is.

Well, I thought Brotherhood was better xD but that's just my opinion. :)

ur not alone OP. even in japan FMA B's rating was terrible.

imo FMA B was way more childish than the 1st season.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/09/01/full-metal-alchemist-ratings-collapse/

>>39123126
Stop living in denial faggot.

Brotherhood was delivered horrendously

>>39123126
except we know that the first was a steaming pile of shit since the day it was airing. Nothing is forgotten, it's just an unchanging fact.

>>39123223
>xD

Stop that.

>>39123086
>Better animation
So its 720p, the art style is exactly the same. I would not call this "better"
>Better storyline
Finding out your father murdered hundreds of thousands of people on purpose is far more awesome than some stupid black dust mite thing stuck in a jar who wants to rule the world. Prove me wrong.
>Better characterisation
First off you didn't spell that right and I don't even know wtf you are talking about so please explain if you can.
>Better action scenes
The fights were about the same, again the only difference being in HD vs SD. Not a deal breaker since all new anime is presented in HD.
>Better music
You are a fucking troll.
>Better ending
Not even close

>>39123126
I believe I disagree with your opinion, respectfully. I, at no time, considered the original FMA to be better than Brotherhood, save for my initial concern over Al's voice.

Which points do you think had more of an emotional impact, over the scenes in Brotherhood? Which scenes in Brotherhood did you feel were under-utilized?

>Implying you can't like both series for different reasons.

>>39123379
I agree with you but holy shit you sound like a douche. You do realize people have opinions even if they are bad opinions?

>>39123379
art style != animation

I'm not going to respond to the rest of your post, because just mistaking art style for animation tells me you don't know what you're talking about.

first series is only considered good by fangirls screaming over l'arc en ciel. If OP wants to declare that he is lowering his dignity to those of a fangirl, it's not like we can do anything about it. Don't worry mang, shit taste can be fixed

>Not even close
So you want to say that that stupid another-world-thing is better?

>>39123379
>>Better characterisation
>I have no fucking clue what this is but uh YOU SPELLED IT WRONG
Oh god I'm laughing so hard, typical FMA: Brotherhood hater

>>39122933
>the main bad guy was lame

while i agree that father was never nearly as good as king motherfucking bradley as far as villains go, are you actually saying that the original's.... What was the name, Dante? is better than anyone in brotherhood?

>>39123529
That's not what I said faggot.

I thought the first take on the series was pretty lame, I guess I watched the whole thing simply because I was marathoning it, had I seen it an episode a week I would probably have dropped it. The only thing which made me react emotionally in any way was the chimera-thing.

I thought Brotherhood was great though, told a pretty decent story in comparsion to the other one and I fel more of an emotional depth to the characters in general, not only the main leads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE5vxtmeJ8Q

>>39123734
Anything is better than Father.

Though, I do think the original tried to be a bit too GRIMDARK SERIOUS BUSINESS GOING ON.

>>39122933
>I'm just gonna state my opinion as a fact.
In my opinion Brotherhood was better. What are you going to do about it?

>>39123886
Father was really never the main bad guy it seemed like. He just felt like a linchpin for the rest of the Homunculi so that they could make some more sense. He was an okay villain, and in the last few episodes when he started showing some emotion he was good, but he never really played that big of a role in the foreground before then.

wait.. some actually think fma1 is better?
..seriously??
the first ending had me raiging for weeks

>>39124084
Aww poor baby didn't get his happy perfect ending. =(

>>39124084
Wait wait wait... I haven't seen it but it was shittier than the Brotherhood ending?! Where some megalomaniac thing somehow swallows FUCKING GOD and then goes DBZ and then enters a boxing contest with a 16 year old and then everyone magically gets a happy end? Holy fuck it must be the worst thing to have ever been written.

this is some massive samefagging ITT.
FMA B > FMA
this is /a/´s general opinion in almost all fma threads I have seen...

>>39124208

Ed gets sucked through The Gate into Nazi Germany, where Hohenheim is providing indirect assistance to Hitler by way of the Thule Society. And then Hitler gets shot by Hughes' alternate universe clone (but lives). Also Pride is Fritz Lang.

>>39124352
I'd honestly pick that over Brotherhood.

But seriously, Nazi Germany? Wow. I guess FMA is fated to suck.

>>39122933

>Ed wasn't able to stay in his world therefor it had greater emotional impact.

>>39123379
>Better animation
I wouldn't disagree with you on this. I, too, feel like the animation in the second series is lazier, however when the quality spikes, it REALLY spikes. Cases in point: Mustang vs. Lust, Mustang vs. Envy, Armstrongs vs. Sloth.

>Better Storyline
In my opinion, the way Brotherhood delved into the past with Xerxes, as well as the inclusion of Briggs and Xing made everything proportionally more epic (for lack of a better word). All the events simply feel BIGGER, more impactful and have more dire consequences upon things aside from the two brothers themselves. Arakawa chained together every single plot point nicely, such that it's a shonen story with no training, no gigantic timeskips, and ONLY ONE ARC. The first animated series teetered off towards the end (after it diverged from the manga) and simply became a series of grimdark encounters with the Homunculus with no real direction. The villain Dante also popped out of fucking NOWHERE. Oh shit, now we gotta make up a villain. I know, that obscure old lady unimportant to the plot we featured in a filler episode. Yea, she sounds good, let's make her the big bad.

>>39123325
>>39123398
It's not an opinion; it's a fact. /a/ liked the original better through 90% of the run of Brotherhood. I'm not saying the original is better, just that that was the majority opinion for the longest time.

>>39124285
Then you must be a newfag that's only been here for three months.

Lust thread?

saying brotherhood is better is faggotry on the same order as saying kai is better

>>39124592
>Better characterisation
- Ed starts manning up towards the end and doesn't remain a grimdark broody martyr who constantly blames himself for his brother's condition
- Al actually DOES shit instead of play second fiddle to his brother, or someone to be rescued
- Mustang plays a huge role, rallying everyone for the final push and plays awesome mindgames instead of simply being in the shadows. Even when he does offer his help he still doesn't do very much. Later becomes a degenerate hobo freezing to death, and only cheers up after his buttbuddy Ed comes tumbling out of the sky
- LOUIS ARMSTRONG IS AN ACTUAL CHARACTER NOW INSTEAD OF A JOKE SHOW.
- No Rose and her rape baby. Tthat shit's awkward as fuck, even with FMA's tone and atmosphere it just didn't fit in right. And what's with her becoming the love interest at the end? You build up a relationship between Ed and Winry and then have her and her gypsy doppleganger all over Ed's dick? Shit does not fly.
- Everyone from Briggs, and everyone from Xing. If you even try to deny Brigg's and their real soviet power then you're a gigantic faggot. Ling-Greed is a smooth motherfucker, and Greed in general turns out to be a major pal.
- Hoenheim actually turns out to be a true fatherly figure. What does he do in the original series? Oh yea, mope about being all cryptic and broody... JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER FUCKING CHARACTER. In Brotherhood, despite being the prison for half a country's population of suffering, writhing souls he steels himself to forge a better future for his sons. He still dies in the end, not a despicable mess in Falkor's mouth. He passes away like a man, kneeling in front of his wife's grave, not with despair but with pride, with the revelation that he truly experienced a life worth living.
- Izumi, an appropriate secondary character, remains a badass, buttkicking housewife. What happens in the original animation? Oh right, darkness and brooding until death.

My problem with the first series is the lack of explanations that involve alchemy. In the original filler series, alchemy became more magical than equivalent exchange, which they claimed throughout the whole series. (If you have sand you can transmute it into glass/metal because of its properties) Towards episode 49 or so, when Dante fights with Hoenheim and sends him through the gate, they literally have moving statues fighting each other. I mean really? When did moving statues have anything to do with alchemy? Regardless of how strong the philosipher's stone is, there's no way possible to make that happen. You would have to stand still and keep transmuting the statues into different positions to keep moving them.

The homunculus were also a large part of the problem I had with original FMA, they literally had it so the homunculus couldn't die unless you had their bones. THEN THEY CHANGED THE RULES, they can be sacrificed at the gate to go through the gate. THAT MAKES NO SENSE, its an immortal body, in FMA:B, they have hundreds of lives before they can die, but with the original fma transmuting them in a human transmutation again will just destroy them? It's just flawed thinking, the writers realized that there was no way envy, greed and wrath would die in the movie, so they changed it just for them. (Lest it become a movie where Ed and Al search for their bones)

Plus the entire Idea between swapping souls between bodies makes no sense. It's a cool idea, but that should be more reserved to magic and the sorts. Alchemy is equivalent exchange and I understand that the stone will allow you to overstep your boundaries, BUT there's no way that it could work, there's no reasonable scientific explanation for it. Alchemy is a science, so how did it suddenly become religion magic with souls (cult lol)

There's plenty more I'm sure I'd rage at, but my head hurts enough already with just the stuff I've stated

>>39124866
>Better action scenes
Too many to count, but just off the top of my head:
- Mustang vs Lust
- Ling vs Wrath
- Ed vs Kimblee
- Ling-Greed vs Wrath
- Ed, Al, and cohorts vs Pride in the forest
- Armstrongs, Izumi and Sig vs. Sloth
- Wrath vs. a tank
- Ed's final punch-out with Dwarf in the Flask

>Better music
I'll give you this one. Brotherhood's music was still good, but not as good as the original animation's.

>Better ending
I do not fucking understand why everyone prefers the Bones' ending to Arakwara's ending. Just because it's a safe and happy ending it automatically means it's worse? If anything it's a BETTER ending because it wraps up everything nice and neat, giving proper closure and catharsis to all the world-changing events that happened. Because that's what an ending does, it fucking finishes everything that's been started. What does Bones give us? Fucking Nazis while every other character besides Ed and Al is left and hanging. They had to come out with a follow-up movie to finish things "properly" because the anime ending sucked so bad. I mean, come on, the brother have been through so much shit, is it that much of a crime to give them a break and let them live a happy life without Hitler wrecking shit up?

>>39124866
>>39124874
>>39124888
FINALLY
People who gets it.

>>39123398
>Which points do you think had more of an emotional >impact, over the scenes in Brotherhood? Which >scenes in Brotherhood did you feel were under-utilized?

Hughes death in the first series was far more depressing. They actually showed much more of the development of everyone's relationship with Hughes and by showing you how much he cared for his daughter and family you cared about him that much more.
Nina's death was far more depressing as well. The characters spent way more time with Nina in the first series and again the development of the relationship was shown in much more detail so that when Nina died you actually gave a fuck and it wasn't just something that seems to have been referenced in passing in the second series.
The flashbacks and scenes showing when the brothers tried to transmute their mother were way way more fucked up and meaningful. In the second series they seemed to just skim over all of these major events and the delivery was plain terrible.
When you find out how the Ishbalan war was started in the first series you are mad at the homonculus for being so evil, where as in the second series you are just like ya whatever bloody crest on the land blah blah.
The scenes where Ed finds out how philosophers stones are made and almost creates on in lab 5 are very well done and really show alot of the internal turmoil of the characters where as again in the second series they just sort of skim over these parts to move onto other things.
I could literally go on and on...

>>39124888
With that kind of end it was possible to work on the movie as well that is coming next year.

B was more childish and the plot felt rushed and lame. Of course, we have Selim as a Homunculus, more of King motherfucking Bradley, a real ending, etc. etc., but I think overall, the original was better than Brotherhood.

>>39122933
Agreed op

I think series one had twice the pacing of the second series, and the music was a large component of that. God the music of series one was so much infinitely better it makes my head hurt.

I don't hate people for liking FMA:B more. Until they talk about the music.

Second series is better plot-wise.
Music was good in both series.
First series has nostalgia value. But so will the second one in a few years.

>>39125156
When it comes to which ones music you would stick onto your iPod, Brotherhood would win, but they reused it so much that it lost any value. I mean I practically raged at the music choice they used when Father was trying to drag god out of the Eclipse. They could have done much better, but they recycled the same thing 20 times. The only track they recycled intelligently was The Intrepid (the track that plays while Hohenhiem is trapping Pride).

tl;dr: The music itself in Brotherhood was better in my opinion, but it was just used in the wrong places for the most part.

I enjoyed them both, but I found that Martel's death in the original series was a lot more... sad, I guess

>>39125239
first series as much better pacing

So original tries too hard to be DEEP and grimdark, sorta BAD END for many characters. Brotherhood is more stereotypical action shounen with GOOD END for everyone.

This is what I'm getting from this thread.

>>39125387
SHE'S NOT DEAD! SHE'S IN LA AS A BOUNTY HUNTER!

>>39125370
>When it comes to which ones music you would stick onto your iPod, Brotherhood would win
LOL NO, the music is Brotherhood weakest link and the tracks aren't as memorable as the first series, with that said I still prefer Brotherhood over the first series in every other aspect (though I do feel that the voice acting was a tad weaker)

>>39125542
Basically. personally I think the whole franchise is overrated

First was a steaming pile of shit, the only GOOD parts was the ones that actually follows the manga bunch of retards.

Brotherhood rushed that parts to get to the new ones.

Deal it.

I still can't begin to process that somewhere exists people who like the excuse fillers that they call series better than the actual AND canon one.

Bunch of stupids emo faggots.

>>39125658
You can like the manga, but like Brotherhood makes you a girly voiced pissant faglet.

They actually put effort into the original. We had legitimate pacing, acting, and music. They gave us time to breath and enjoy each scene. Brotherhood was just a mess.

>>39125745

Don't even try it.

I can smell the denial kilometers away.

DEEP faggot.

>my face when Brotherhood is the best fighting shounen anime.

The end for the first series was a giant asspull. Not only for things mentioned in this thread already, but there was no reference to WW2 beforehand and a homunculus was defeated by being transmuted into gas.
Also, I had no idea why Roy and especially Hawkeye had any sort of sizeable fanbase for the first series. They did practically nothing. What I really like about Brotherhood, however is that virtually none of the characters do nothing.
I think the only thing I miss from the first series was the reoccurrence of Nina's dad.

>>39125794
It's the difference between Naruto and Naruto Shippuuden (hurr narutu sage).

They actually put effort into the first series, whereas the second series is just a complete mess.

>>39124689

The same way humans preferred carriages until the car came about.

It doesn't matter how people felt about it in the past, it matters how they feel now.

And right now, the general consensus is that Brotherhood was simply a better series.

>>39125912
>and a homunculus was defeated by being transmuted into gas.

Are you talking about Ed's mom? You remember when he had to dig up his own mother's grave to get th pieces he needed to beat her right?

>>39125912

This. Characters who just seemed like they were pulled out of a hat for no reason in the first series are given a real purpose in Brotherhood.

>>39125658
>I still can't begin to process that somewhere exists people who like the excuse fillers that they call series better than the actual AND canon one.
Uh.....

>>39125912
Um there was tons of symbolism in both series that you are obviously to retarded to pick up on. Such as Central representing Nazi Germany, the Ishbalans were the jews, so on and so forth...

>>39125923
>They actually put effort into the first series, whereas the second series is just a complete mess
People who believe this have no fucking idea what they're talking about

>>39126100
No, YOU have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Have you seen any episodes of Shippuuden? Or the original?

In production value, they're as different as night and day.

>>39126075
Actually the Ishvalans were based on the Ainu.

I thought the beginning of Brotherhood was rushed, but I get that they were just trying to get through the stuff the first series already covered, so I can forgive that. Overall, I thought Brotherhood tied together things a lot better. The main improvement, I thought, was the way to kill the homunculi. They're monsters whose cores are the souls of human beings, it makes sense that you just kill them until they run out of lives.

>>39122933
>Dante
>good villain
Oh God, is this what you fags honestly believe? The only thing I remember from the first series is the fucksweet OST.
Brotherhood had better animation,almost no characters were shoved to the side and Ed actually did something other than mope around.

>>39126190
>>39125923
>In production value, they're as different as night and day.
Yeah, in Shippuden they actually remember to draw the head, and the pacing isn't bogged down wiyh over 90 episodes of filler

>>39126417
>Brotherhood had better animation,almost no characters were shoved to the side and Ed actually did something other than mope around

>>39126075

>symbolism
>in the end Ed goes to OUR world during WWII
>symbolism

DEEP faggot, indeed.

>>39126075
Except all of that was actually canon, so you can't attribute that to Bones.

>>39126533
How about fucking disproving my point with evidence? Roy and Al were done much, much better in Brotherhood.

>>39126685
Because you stating that Brotherhood is better than the first series with no evidence or argument means I would do the same.

Honestly this fanbase turned to shit because of the second series

>>39126771
>implying the FMA fanbase wasn't always shit
Doesn't make it a bad series.

>>39126828

>>39126771
Except I just said that Roy, istead of moping around, actually fought in the final battle while being blind.
Or that Al wasn't a damsel in distress and his valiant sacrifice in the final fight was really well done.
Or that Bradley had more character and was a real man.
Kimblee was shown not only a twisted lunatic but a man with a code of honour that even he wouldn't break.

Want more?

The first series was amazing, UP UNTIL THE POINT WERE THE STORY DEVIATED FROM THE MANGA.

Then it became Shit Tier.

Holy FUCK that ending was terrible, and you're terrible if you liked it.

>>39123379
>He thinks animation quality has anything to do with art style

1MillionLaughingGirls.jpg

>>39126905
>Except I just said that Roy, istead of moping around, actually fought in the final battle while being blind.
Because he totally didn't confront Furher Bradley in the first series in the final battle amirite
>Or that Al wasn't a damsel in distress and his valiant sacrifice in the final fight was really well done.
>Al wasn't a damsel in distress
Looks like someone is blocking their memory from the manga
>Or that Bradley had more character and was a real man.
You do realize that only three volumes of the manga were complted by the end of the first series run right? You do realize that Arakawa didn't expand his role until later on right?
>Kimblee was shown not only a twisted lunatic but a man with a code of honour that even he wouldn't break.
This is what the retarded manga fanbase belive also see the above

Why are you so peeved that people like the first series more? It's not that Brothrhood was perfect

>>39126993
Not as bad as the EVERYONE GETS WHAT THEY WANT AND LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER ending we got in the manga

>>39127151
Better question would be why someone would be stupid to make an Anime for a monthly manga only a few chapters in.

>>39127205
>A happy ending automatically makes it a bad ending.

This has already been covered in this thread.

>>39127205
>Implying happy endings are bad.
Not grimdarkemo enough for you?

>>39127294
That's an incredibly stupid question, not all anime are suppose to follow the source of material word for word, the first series attributed to the manga gaining popularity like most adaptation of shounen manga are made for, it's fortunate that the franchise became as popular as it is to remake it

>>39127151
I'm not peeved at people liking it more, I'm peeved at people who go MAN, BROTHERHOOD WAS TERRIBLE SO EVERYONE WHO LIKED IT MORE IS TERRIBLE AS WELL.
And I do agree that Brotherhood has issues.

>>39127307
And it's been proven true on many accounts that a happy ending can be considered terrible. Pic related

>>39127525
To set the record straight I liked Brotherhood more than the original and I'm happy that the manga got the adaptation it deserved just in time for it's conclusion, but it wasn't THAT good and the first series wasn't THAT bad

>>39127151
So we're only allowed to compare the first three volumes of the manga that happened in Brotherhood to the first series?

Good /a/non. You are a master troll.

>>39127731
So how are you suppose to establish a character when he hasn't been flesh out even by the own mangaka, are you expecting the writers to see into future or are you just retarded?

>>39127624
Ya any ending has the possibility to be terrible.

Just because some happy endings are bad does not mean all are.

What the fuck kind of logic are you using? How about you actually tell me why the ending is terrible in brotherhood?

>>39127872
>How about you actually tell me why the ending is terrible in brotherhood?
-Loose ends
-Rushed
-Final battle with Father is disappointing
-Conflict gets resolved way too easily
Also Marco confrontation with Roy is hammified compared to the manga

Ling-Greed>>>>First series

>>39128085
>Loose ends

Like for example?

>Rushed
>Conflict gets resolved way too easily

Elaborate.
How would you have done it yourself?

>>39127869
You're the retarded one. Saying we can only compare the first three volumes animated in Brotherhood to the original series.

Ok, for all you faggots that think the music in the original was better can suck on all 4 inches of my dick.

>>39128085
Loose ends? You are honestly going there? If anything Brotherhood had less loose ends then the original anime.

>>39128381
When did I say that? I said that the original anime only covered three volumes worth of material while Brotherhood had all of it , the original was always made to tray away from the manga anyways and criticizing it for not following the material when the bulk of the material didn't exist is retarded

>>39124689
>>39124737
I don't know what /a/ you've been reading, but that's utter bullshit.

At first when Brotherhood was covering the material that was already done in the first series people were divided pretty much equally, some wanted to give FMAB a chance and some were just shouting SEE WE TOLD YOU IT'S GOING TO SUCK and ejaculating all over their nostalgia goggles. However, when the series reached the point where the first FMA split from the manga pretty much EVERYONE thought it was better, only a handful of haters were shitting up FMA threads in the beginning and even that died out as FMAB progressed.

Don't call others newfags if you are spouting bullshit yourself.

>>39129058
>However, when the series reached the point where the first FMA split from the manga pretty much EVERYONE thought it was better
>Don't call others newfags if you are spouting bullshit yourself.
IRONY

>>39128456
>If anything Brotherhood had less loose ends then the original anime.

>>39128413
Just because you have shit taste in music doesn't mean people want to suck your small dick

>>39129111
Good job proving you don't know shit about what you're talking about.

You know, I actually was in the threads.

Brotherhood had this.
Original series has nothing to compete.

>>39129392
You claiming bullshit that's not true and stating I don't know what I'm talking about? Boy you're sure digging yourself deeper into this hole you dug yourself in

>>39129534
Ed Vs. Greed is better animated than anything in Brotherhood, keep trying faggot

Fullmetal Alchemist
vol.01 21,450　64,992
vol.02 31,540　51,497
vol.03 31,208　43,222
vol.04 25,441　36,904
vol.05 24,913　34,397
vol.06 21,516　32,466
vol.07 23,541　33,518　
vol.08 22,912　31,352
vol.09 22,806　29,400
vol.10 22,938　29,269
vol.11 19,068　29,090
vol.12 20,039　31,718
vol.13 25,904　31,718


Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
DVD
vol.01 12,578　14,869　15,715
vol.02 *8,507　10,024　10,686
vol.03 *7,643　*8,985
vol.04 *6,875　*8,285
vol.05 *6,608
vol.06 *6,613
vol.07 *6,554　7,578
vol.08 *5,898　6,985
vol.09 *5,673　6,907
vol.10 *6,031　6,894
vol.11 *6,059　7,062
vol.12 *5,388　6,578


Brotherhood sucks
Japan agreed, don't bother them

>>39129568

Why are Original Series fans so obnoxious and argumentative?
Its almost if they have some sort of inferiority complex about something....

never watch the old FMA, this one kinda just barelly above average for me. nothing remotely interested happens. just good guy kicking but

Why are Brotherhood fans so obnoxious and argumentative?
Its almost if they have some sort of inferiority complex about something....

Ways in which FMA-B is superior:
- Ling. This guy is fucking awesome.

Ways in which FMA was superior:
- Everything else.

>>39129654
The amount of dvd's sold in japan is directly proportional to how much a series sucks gigantic dickheads.

>>39129548
It seems nothing I say will convince you, but I've been following FMAB threads since the time we were only WAITING for the first episode to air so I'm fairly sure I know what I'm talking about.

Oh well, to each their own.

One thing that bothered me about the original series was the homunculi being the result of human transmutation. There are only 7 deadly sins but there could be infinite homunculi, so what happens if an 8th is created? Dante's cute little naming scheme goes out of the window.

Also, was there anything particularly lazy about Sloth in the original? The name didn't seem to fit the character like the others at all.

>>39129862
Ghost in the Shell S.A.C
vol.01 19,468
vol.02 19,319
vol.03 15,281
vol.04 15,795
vol.05 15,003
vol.06 15,564
vol.07 16,605
vol.08 15,307
vol.09 14,966　
vol.10 15,243
vol.11 15,411
vol.12 14,468
vol.13 15,621

Ghost in the Shell S.A.C. 2nd GIG *three weeks sales available
vol.01 11,533　16,543　20,158
vol.02 10,760　16,251　19,150
vol.03 12,939　16,944　18,188
vol.04 12,494　16,447　18,139
vol.05 11,020　15,454　17,365
vol.06 13,801　18,408　20,815
vol.07 14,034　18,860　19,497
vol.08 13,471　19,581　20,084
vol.09 15,383　18,376　19,406
vol.10 14,295　19,226　20,662
vol.11 16,033　20,137　21,465　
vol.12 15,593　18,829　20,255
vol.13 14,644　18,392　20,143

I guess Ghost in The Shell is the shittiest anime ever then

>>39129938
It sure is.

>>39129938
You are right. Ghost in The Shell is the shittiest anime ever.

>>39129871
>but I've been following FMAB threads since the time we were only WAITING for the first episode to air so I'm fairly sure I know what I'm talking about

Hey, whatever helps you sleep at night kid

>>39129961
>>39130016

>>39129862
So I guess Brotherhood is actually shit then

The movie was better

>You do realize that only three volumes of the manga were complted by the end of the first series run right? You do realize that Arakawa didn't expand his role until later on right?

So basically you are saying that the first series having a much shittier and pointless cast it's okay, because it was not in the manga.

If you accept this, you would be relegating the first series to being the manga's dumb, dependant little brother who can't be blamed of anything because it is not a work in and of itself, and thus, inherently inferior to a more faithful adaptation.

so anyone have a good ddl link for the subbed first FMA? fuck its kinda hard to find nondubbed old anume (torrent is fine too but i prefer ddl)

>>39130199
Brotip: Don't waste your time

>>39129925
>Also, was there anything particularly lazy about Sloth in the original? The name didn't seem to fit the character like the others at all.

Sloth dug herself up from the Elric's backyard and crawled possibly miles to find Dante by purely shit chance, all without anybody ever notciing anything, not even the Elrics or Pinako, who does not even give a "Oh, hey, you know that ungodly abomination you kids made? It just vanished". Not to mention nobody noticing a monster crawling through the countryside.

If we're gonna list things that were fucking retarded about the first anime's homunculi, or everything else, we could be here forever. Just a reminder: SCAR READS A BOOK WITH HIS ARM.

>>39130157
See
>>39128988
>So basically you are saying that the first series having a much shittier and pointless cast it's okay, because it was not in the manga.
So basically you stating your opinion as fact doesn't make you an underage retard? I don't think that's the case
>If you accept this, you would be relegating the first series to being the manga's dumb, dependant little brother who can't be blamed of anything because it is not a work in and of itself, and thus, inherently inferior to a more faithful adaptation.
Pretty much. the first series was never meant to follow the manga to begin with so you can't blame it for going it's own route when Arakawa herself had not even concieve the later concepts to begin with and tied them up together 7 YEARS LATER. The original had it's own plot which it tied up nicely by itself, what so hard for you to comprehend fanboy?

>>39130271
>Sloth dug herself up from the Elric's backyard and crawled possibly miles to find Dante by purely shit chance, all without anybody ever notciing anything, not even the Elrics or Pinako, who does not even give a "Oh, hey, you know that ungodly abomination you kids made? It just vanished". Not to mention nobody noticing a monster crawling through the countryside.
Not only is this completely untrue you've proven yourself to be a fucking retard as a result of this post

>The organic mass that was formed from the failed event was fed Red Stones by Dante, thus giving Sloth the appearance of the late Trisha. Sloth's unique ability as a Homunculus is to alter her body into pure water, which she uses as a means of transportation, espionage, and also killing by drowning her victims. She is also seemingly able to convert her full length purple dress into water, but no other clothing, as her secretary's uniform tears when she encounters the Elrics underground. Her Ouroboros tattoo is located above the area where her heart would be. She is named for the sin of sloth, though similarly to Lust, the other female Homunculus, she does not appear to embody the sin herself. However, since sloth may also indicate apathy, Sloth's name may have been given due to her seeming indifference to the lives of others, though is particular to her, because Sloth is noticeably the calmest Homunculus, or it could be due to the fact that water flows with the path of least resistance. Either way, she rarely displays any intense emotion, though she often adopts a snide and patronizing manner, such as when introduced to Greed.

>>39130221
>>39130157
>>39130271
I think these statements proves this post true>>39129832

>>39130221
no i already watch it years ago, but after watching brotherhood im tingling to watch it again.

also anyone should agree its has better animation than brotherhood. ed vs greed .gif anyone?

so anyone has the link?

>>39124771
You know in a thread with so much faggotry, this post made me smile. Thanks anon.

All the briggs arc and the ending were terrible, unless you are a MAL retard you will like the first one better too

>>39130454
Your copypasta is really cute, but what does it have to do with anything? What I said still stands. How the fuck did the abomination Ed and Al made somehow get to Dante without anybody noticing?

Dante found it? How? How would she even know it was created? Was it chance? It was insanely specific chance then. Did Sloth seek her out? Even less sense. How would it even know to look for her? How did the abomination dissappear from the Elrics' house without anybody noticing anything?

Is pretty much /a/ opinion OP

>>39124866
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>>39124866
This 1000 fucking times this. I really think it's funny how some people seem to think that brooding and emo count for actual characterization. There is nothing wrong with brooding when the characters find themselves in a situation such as the Elric Bros, but it was overdone in the first series to the point where it sometimes came off almost silly.

For example one of the pointless filler episodes where Lust is in a town working with some alchemist who seems to fall in love with her even though he is supposed to be getting married or some shit. Lust ends up killing him then reciting an emo sounding poem afterward. That is one of those times where the series came off as pretty silly and it wasn't even trying to be at that moment. At worst it became so overly dramatic that it really wasn't very fun to watch anymore.

>>39131201
Yeah but /a/ thinks K-ON is good, so i don't put to much stock in /a/'s opinion. The first series was ok until episode 30 or so, then it started to play out like a badly written fanfic

>>39131268
Sounds like the manga

The end is a lot better that for sure

>>39131268
/a/ does not think K-on is good bro. Just because k-on fans are more vocal doesn't mean the majority. Go into one of those "your top anime"threads. Best taste on the internet, /a/.

>>39125122
>B was more childish
Translation: wasn't overly grimdark and emo so that makes it childish.

>>39131365
Better taste than MAL at least

I only watched a couple episodes of Brotherhood but I've been reading the manga for ages and consider it much better than LOL NAZIS. And I LIKED the silly nazi shit.

>>39129654
Same Japan that likes K-ON? lol

>>39131289
>Babby's first troll

first series: starts off good but then... Emo, emo everywhere. Oh and out of nowhere Germany!

Brotherhood>: Starts of rushed then after episode 13, FUCK YEAR! FUCK YEAR! EVERYWHERE! Also Olivier Armstrong and Greed Ling

>>39131576
>everyone who disagree with me is a troll XDDD

>>39131691
If you ignore the horrible ending and also the pointless briggs arc, then maybe

>>39131914
>If you ignore the horrible ending

But Brotherhood didn't end in Germany. The first series did.

>>39131914
Briggs arc isn't pointless. It has the points of:
a) introducing Briggs characters
b) making a big step in overaching plot (Scar's brother book)
c) furthers Ed/Winry relationships
Ending isn't horrible either, although what do trolls like you know about endings...

>>39131997
True, it was a lot worse

Fullmetal Alchemist Filler series better than brohood?

Lol, 4chan and the always amusing piece of shit that think they are human.

>>39132035
The ending wasn't emo and grimdark enough for them, you know teens these days.

FMA original series was shit.

People should feel bad to even trying to defend it.

>>39132091
I wonder if a second Soul Eater anime ever got made would there be people saying the "lol courage punch" ending was better?

>>39132035
Briggs arc isn't pointless. It has the points of:
>a) introducing Briggs characters
There is not need for a whole arc for that
b) making a big step in overaching plot (Scar's brother book)
Again that can be done in 1 chapter
c) furthers Ed/Winry relationships
Hahahaohwow

>>39132115

>People

If someone is actually defend that steaming pile of dog shit, they can't be considered people anymore.

>>39132115
FMA:B was shit.

People should feel bad to even trying to defend it.

>>39132127
>There is not need for a whole arc for that
Explain why there was no need for the whole arc. (seeing as it was an important part of the story unlike say Germany for example)

>>39132127
I see what you did there. By switching to the "it could be done in shorter way" argument, you admit that i am right, so i rest my case

>>39132210
>DERP DERP lets waste a whole arc only to present a group of characters, thats quality writing there XD

>>39132122

It will be the sameshit, all the faggots here doesn't realize that it was just one or two samefags defending the first series.

Man that was a complete train wreck.

Lol alchemy is the way that we MAGICALLY drain life from the REAL world.

Damn you gotta be that desperate to defending this kind of thing.

And don't even get me start on Dante or homunculus that were dead people (so why they are homunculus on the first place, writers need to learn they own series mythology first before trying to write something).

>>39124852
/thread

I love how these threads always prove fans of the first anime are either complete retards or simple trolls. Thanks, /a/

>>39132185

Lol samefagging on denial are so amusing.

Your bitch tears are sweet like honey kid.

>>39132328
Lol samefagging on denial are so amusing.

Your bitch tears are sweet like honey kid.

>>39132115
It was basically a badly written fanfic.

-You had overly emo homunculi. ( only Greed was a likable) Obviously the writers thought making a character brood a lot= character development. Newsflash, it doesn't.
-Envy being Ed and Al's long lost big brother(lol) then turning into a fucking dragon for somereason and getting captured by Germans. (Again , lol)
-Rose: Raped by Amestrian soldiers then made the figure head of some bullshit resitsance in Lior lead by Scar.
-Lust is actually the long lost dead girlfirend of Scar's older bro who recites emo poems after killing people
- Sloth water mom: pretty much flies in the face of "one cannot bring the dead back to life" message Izumi tried to teach the Elrics( not to mention a major theme of FMA itself) when one of the homunculi is basically your fucking mother.

>>39132276
Troll harder

Gotta love the arguments here
"hey guys FMA:B was pretty bad"
"Oh yeah? well the first one was shit -_-!!!"

I liked both series and the manga, I must be a minority.

>>39132530
Fanboys, both series are shit.

>>39132417
-Crappy "original PLZ don't steal" characters like Psiren, who was basically a fucking Shadow Lady rip-off. Pointless fake Elric bros, did nothing for the story.

-Roy Mustang killed Winry's Parents? GTFO, with that retarded shit.

- Wrath: Whiny punk kid who spends most of his time crying loudly and throwing temper tantrums. How is this kid the embodiment of Wrath again? Also be honest, do you really buy that this faggot could be the product of Izumi and Sig Curtis? Come on, if their kid had lived boy or girl it would have been the GARest mother fucker on the planet.

- Mustang Vs Pride( Bradley) Lets see now. During the fight to the death in the burning fucking room, Selim just out of the blue decides to bring his daddy's one weakness into the room to be exploited by Mustang. Jeez what a stupid ass kid, no wonder Bradley chocked him to death.
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>>39132363
Why are you continuously repeating other people's posts as a form of debate? It's not clever; it just shows how you have no true rebuttal. Do yourself a favor and stop. It's embarrassing.

>>39132434
>I run out of arguments
Ok bro, no problem

>>39132530
>-_-

gb2gaia, summerfag.

Could anybody do an image of a Truth-in-the-Homunculus'-form with a caption of "Problems, humans?" (problems, mortals as alternative)

>>39132620
Why are you continuously repeating other people's posts as a form of debate? It's not clever; it just shows how you have no true rebuttal. Do yourself a favor and stop. It's embarrassing.

>>39132651
I agree FMA:B fanboys must come from there

>>39132292
The irony is that the only people still in this thread are Brotherhoodfags makes you think who's the real retards are now doesn't it

>>39132530

Yes sure, lets just ignore the walls and walls of text with actual arguments, say some shit and post some emoticon from gaia.

Plz go back to the toilet, you don't belong here, just because you can type it doesn't mean that you are a human being, typing piece of shit.

The original had mind blowing music.
I have not watched Brotherhood but I am the only person qualified to judge it seeing as most of you are just females.

>>39132716
It's you.

>>39132762
>lets just ignore the walls and walls of text with actual arguments
>arguments
You mean people stating their opinions and dismmising evidence given in the first series like underage manchildren?

>>39132716

Its easy to bash shit series like the filler FMA.

Also try harder, i can see you tears from miles away kid.

>>39132762
Wow you are really mad, i wonder why? oh yeah you are a fanboy

>>39132812
>dismissing evidence
Yeah, the speed with which they dismiss evidence of first series being inferior is truly staggering

>>39132840

Lol some saging useless piece of shit trying to troll.

Cute.

>>39132762
Gotta love how kids missed all the point, FMA being bad dont make FMA:B good, both are quite bad.

>>39132914

So i heard you like sage.

Cool instrument isn't?

>>39132913
You are 12 or something?

>>39132832
>>39132866
>>39132791
>Anon 1: I really did like the first series better than Brotherhood
>Brotherhood fag: HAHAHAHAHA ENJOY YOUR EMO BROODING BULLSHIT AND FILLER WITH LOL GERMANY
>Anon1": Well you see they're some things I liked better than.....
>Brotherhood: LOL NO, BROTHERHOOD IS THE BEST ANIME EVER ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS A FAGGOT

This basically

I don't see how anyone could favor an ending where the Elric brothers are trapped in another dimension with no alchemy at all rather than them staying back in their own world and Ed getting married to Winry and Al hooking up with that asian loli.

>>39132965

Yes, like you "baby first troll"

>>39132866
>>39132791
>>39132832
I think you just proved his point

>>39132965

Are u mad?

>>39132616
- Envy: In the manga he is a piece of shit. A bastard and damned proud of the fact that he shoots lolis in the head. First anime series, Envy is basically a faggot with "daddy issues". But to be fair at least he does fit his namesake. Unlike Sloth water mom, and whiny baby "Wrath"


- Dante: Crappy villain whose sole purpose was to create a philosopher stone in order to live longer basically. Ends up getting eaten by Glottony in the end.

-Father: Wants to become god and nearly succeeds, basically created Amestris for the sole purpose of using it's population to creaet a Philosopher stone. Gluttony is scared shitless of Father and wouldn't dare attack him. And if he did, he would get fucked up quickly.

-Homunculi in first series: Products of failed human transmutations, can't do alchemy supposedly( yet Envy manages to do it while disguised as Cornello) Only way to kill them is to find their bones. Luckily not all of them have stupid children to tell people where they are buried. All except Greed and Gluttony are emo as fuck
- Manga Homunculi: Created when father wanted to get rid of the human emotions he felt were pointless to have. Can be killed by destroying stone within them. All of them( especially Greed) kick ass. Though i would have liked Lust to last a bit longer, but at least she had a badass death in the manga.

>>39132989
See
>>39127624

>>39132989
One ending is good, the other is for sad shippers

>>39133018

>point

Cool samefagging bro.

>>39133033
>>39132616
You had me until you got to Father, he was a shit villain, get your biased shit out of here

Brotherhood fanbase is really this bad?

>>39132289
>all the faggots here doesn't realize that it was just one or two samefags defending the first series

Fucking this, you dumbshits.

This is Justice-tier samefagging for God's sake.


And by the way, I loved both the First and FMA B.

Just liked FMA:B a bit more for the extra helping of manliness (in some segments of the first, some of the more "emotional" scenes really did feel like they were going over the edge here) and for how they managed to get me drawn in how everything was strung together.


and I think OP intended for this shit to happen. I mean, look how FMA threads have turned out recently.

Closing the tab on this thread here.

Already more than proved how shit the first series are.

Bye.

Happy trolling sageshit and samefagturd.

>>39133113
Yes, remember the days where we could casually discuss the anime and the manga without it degrading into these threads?

>>39133113
Is not, this guy is a retard: >>39132913 >>39132961 is probably a reverse troll.

>>39133139
>>39132289
>>39132122
>>39132091
Cool samefagging bro

>>39133141
Too bad you forget to prove why brotherhood is good to begin with

the original was better hurrrrrr

emoshunal impact hurrrrrr

>>39133096
Explain how Father is a Shit villain but Dante isn't. She wanted to make a philosopher stone so she could stay young and fuckable. How is that any better than wanting to be God?

>>39133207
mechas, nazis and alchemist? i thinki it was

>>39133197
It was proven way back in the first half of this thread

Everything since then has been samefags yelling at each other for no reason

>>39133113
>FMA fanbase is really this bad?

Fixed that for you

Here's how it works, you fucking idiots.

1) Watch the first series.
2) Watch the second series.
3) Appreciate the good parts from both.
4) Don't be an emo faggot.

>>39133248
>It was proven way back in the first half of this thread
Since when does stating your opinion as fact counts as evidence?

>>39133248
No it wasnt, for any point given about why FMA:B is so bad the only response was "well, FMA have germany".

>>39133183
samefag detector is actually off. Though I could understand how you see it that way.

I was just browsing this thread and just deciding to post.
I was this poster >>39133139

and from the way I see it, a majority of posts that make themselves out to be from fans of the first series are the ones that seem truly anal.

Idort master race here. I've enjoyed inmensely watching both shows.

You hatefags peasants can keep on arguing about stupid shit. It's already hard enough to find decent anime nowadays with all the moe otaku-pandering garbage

>>39133033
psst, FMA Pride wasn't emo
>>39133096
Tell me why you think Father is bad villain, anon

>>39133349
>a majority of posts that make themselves out to be from fans of the first series are the ones that seem truly anal.
You're gonna keep going back and forth with this shit are you