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    191 KB 2ch on One Manga: “Good Riddance to Foreign Thieves!” Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:52 No.38341062  
    2ch’s usual scathing response lends some insight as to how the closure of the world’s biggest manga piracy site sits with Japanese manga fans.

    As ever, not all of their opinions are based on sound information or reason:

    “Won’t they just start another site under a new name?”

    “The biggest illegal distributor online, eh? Hurry up and destroy the rest.”

    “Teach them the consequences of serious crime!”

    “Just deleting them won’t stop it – the data will live on forever. You have to put in place fines and make it a serious crime or you’ll never stamp it out. It’s the same with music and movies.”

    “With the major source gone I expect the small ones will die off too.”

    “Scanlation won’t disappear, but a billion monthly page views is obviously going too far.”

    “The industry has brought this strange situation upon itself by not seeking damages. Being forced to pay damages would have set a precedent and discouraged them from being so brazen.”

    “Now get rid of Megauploader – they are busy making money off fansubs!”

    “Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”

    “With a billion page views they must have been rolling in it. Best to sue them.”

    “The reason it came to this is probably because this content is only that of the yellow races. They should have sued first like Nintendo. They’ve probably got used to scanlation so it’s no good now.”

    “Good move. Now do it more with music and movies too.”
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:52 No.38341073
    “It’s the fault of those idiot publishers for doing nothing. Whilst Hollywood was busy protecting its copyrights they just let it slide. You reap what you sow.”

    “With the strong yen they are probably aiming to curb Japanese copying.”

    “The disease has spread too far – the market seems to be collapsing like that of anime. It’ll be layoffs and bankruptcies from here on.”

    “They enjoy making scanlations – it’s like a club activity to them.”

    “It’s like that for fansubs too, but they’re all saying they are helping propagate them. Even the guys writing ero-doujinshi don’t think like that.”

    “If you don’t release simultaneously with the Japanese release they will pirate them. They are that committed.”

    “They get them even faster than the Japanese regions do. It’s too much…”

    “What a bunch of crooks. They make a fortune off donations and advertising revenue. They pretend they are creators and heroes. I want to watch Hollywood movies and American dramas at the same time as their US release. Of course, for free.”

    “Overseas manga is ridiculously expensive, so that’s probably behind One Manga’s popularity. However you look at it, ¥2,000 for a single volume is way too much.”

    “If the prices drop they’ll just start using censorship as an excuse instead.”

    “They wouldn’t buy even if it were cheap. Their anime is far cheaper than in Japan and they still won’t buy.”

    The indignation of Japanese anime and manga fans who see themselves having to support an audience of freeloading international fans unwilling to support creators, whilst themselves paying top dollar to ensure even niche audiences can have their needs met, is perhaps not unreasonable, however unsightly its manifestation may be at times.

    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/25/2ch-on-one-manga-good-riddance-to-foreign-thieves/
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:54 No.38341138
    >shitkaku complex
    >retarded Japanese

    why you do this
    >> Torontofag !!EEVN5mg6m41 07/24/10(Sat)20:54 No.38341155
    >Sankaku
    >2ch
    >onemanga

    guaranteedreplies.txt
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:55 No.38341183
    Ahh, Japanese elitist bullshit, always a laugh.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:55 No.38341206
    >“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”

    /a/ is that you?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:56 No.38341213
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    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:56 No.38341231
    What's manhwa?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:56 No.38341246
    >sankaku

    Stop it.

    Seriously.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:56 No.38341248
    Why are the Japanese so mean? :(
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:57 No.38341267
    isn't 2ch still hosted in the US?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:57 No.38341278
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    I'm still going to steal their shit.

    DEAL WITH IT JAPS. MY GRANDPAPA FUCKED SOME OF YOUR WOMEN TOO FOR A COUPLE OF BUCKS.
    >> Enni !!yuy18lt/ls9 07/24/10(Sat)20:57 No.38341286
    It's 2ch.
    I bet 2chan's reponse would be worse.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:58 No.38341314
    >2ch is full of normalfags who don't know shit. News at 11.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:59 No.38341350
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    >>38341206
    My face when I like manwha better
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)20:59 No.38341359
    >impling I care what dirty jap shut-ins think.
    >implying I dont torrent

    nippon is behind the rest of the world in piracy methods, they still use old p2p systems we gave up on years ago.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:00 No.38341387
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    >My face when they have small penises.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:01 No.38341421
    >>38341231
    you cant google search or what
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:01 No.38341447
    Heres what 4chan thinks of 2ch.

    "Dirty japanese filth"

    "lol we nuked them and will again if they get out of line"

    "jappan has small cock"

    "sauce ?"

    "we only like japanese media, not japanese people"
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:03 No.38341507
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    I buy Anime and manga that is licensed in the UK.

    Until then, I will continue to steal and there is nothing they can do about it.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:03 No.38341529
    The Japanese industry thinks that foreign piracy is the problem. Yet, the Japanese industry doesn't actually give a shit about gaijin. They just don't want to make accusations against the otaku, whose yen sustains them, are also becoming the pirates instead of buying shitty soulless fanservice shit aimed at their wallets instead of their THE HEARTs.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:03 No.38341538
    >>38341062
    >sankakucomplex
    >onemanga
    Yeah, no.

    >>38341248
    >Why are the Japanese so mean?
    >:(
    Fuck off.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:04 No.38341544
    At least we have bigger dicks
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:04 No.38341575
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    >my face when fat japanese neckbeards are upset over fat neckbeards from across the world
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:05 No.38341591
    white men with japanese women: innumerable
    japanese men with white women: near none
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:05 No.38341606
    Hey Japanese fucktards, if any of you are in this thread, I'll buy your fucking manga when you actually sell the manga I like IN ENGLISH. Until then, I refuse to have japanese volumes flown in to my country at high costs, because it's a fucking comic book.

    P.S. You fags also pirate, you're the one hurting the manga industry the most, so shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341617
    >>38341447
    nuff said
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341618
    You guys aren't actually defending onemanga are you?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341619
    >They wouldn’t buy even if it were cheap. Their anime is far cheaper than in Japan and they still won’t buy.

    They got us there...
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341625
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    ITT: trolls trolling trolls
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341626
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    Hey japs, shut up and get back to making me more anime/manga to steal.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341636
    >>38341591
    There's actually a lot of weeaboo women who move to Japan. Japanese men don't want them though.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:06 No.38341644
    >>38341606
    >Japanese fucktards
    >ITT
    What the fuck are you doing.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341665
    If it wasn't for scanned manga, we'd be barely reading any of it at all. Besides, Japanese publishers barely get anything from overseas deals, this doesn't affect them.
    If publishers don't want scanlators, they better be as efficient as them. Not to mention $10 a volume vs free or even the standard 200-300 yen in Japan is ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341668
    Protip: I dont buy english media, I'm hardly gonna buy shitty jap media.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341672
    >>38341626
    this

    >>38341591
    why would you want a japanese woman?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341676
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    >my face when Japanese otaku think they morally superior
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341681
    >shitkaku
    >2ch
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341691
    This eliminates any remaining compunction I had before for pirating Japanese goods.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341694
    >>38341618
    Nope, just defending our god given right to steal shit from other people.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:07 No.38341695
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    >Sankaku Complex bullshit

    Fuck off they have a shit nigger commet are on that website for you people.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341704
    What does 2chan have to say about us?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341711
    The onyl good things from japan are manga,anime and some of thier non-hideous women.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341714
    >Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!
    I guess Japan has trolls too.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341716
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    >>38341619

    Yep they are right actually.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341719
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    Here's what I think of 2ch:

    >Detras de ti, imbecil.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341733
    >>38341704
    They're tsundere for us.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341735
    >2ch
    >Sankakucomplex
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:08 No.38341741
    >>38341704

    go onto 2ch and post a thread.

    They will gawp at you and try to speak to you in engrish.

    They have hard ons for westerners, they all want to be americans from the movies.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341747
    >I want to watch Hollywood movies and American dramas at the same time as their US release. Of course, for free.
    Japs fail at torrenting. Then again they would probably need subs for them too.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341753
    >>38341619
    They mad jealous of our low every day prices at Walmart
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341754
    sage for shitkaku
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341779
    >>38341741
    Japs just mad cause they only have Share and Perfect Dark.

    i.e Limewire.

    Torrenting is too hard for thier retarded minds since theres no anime women teaching them.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341781
    Best part is, they have mainly English licensing companies to thank for this.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341784
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    lololololllol
    someone make a u mad threat on 2ch do it nowlol
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:09 No.38341785
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    >>38341447

    >"sauce ?"

    Oh shit, I laughed like a motherfucker.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:10 No.38341786
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    Dont give a shit
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:10 No.38341787
    >>38341073
    >“They wouldn’t buy even if it were cheap. Their anime is far cheaper than in Japan and they still won’t buy.”

    yeah because they sure are buying DVDs....
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:10 No.38341799
    They just want someone to blame.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:10 No.38341802
    >“Just deleting them won’t stop it – the data will live on forever. You have to put in place fines and make it a serious crime or you’ll never stamp it out. It’s the same with music and movies.”

    Don't worry guys, its the same as with music and movies, they'll never stop the piracy.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:10 No.38341803
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    Silly japs.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:11 No.38341826
    WESTERNERS DOWNLOADING MANGA AND ANIME IS KILLING THE INDUSTRY.

    ITS NOT BECAUSE I HAVE 26 K-ON!! FIGURES. IM SUPPORTING IT.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:11 No.38341850
    They do realize that the majority of scanlation groups just translate what they're already scanned, right?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:11 No.38341864
    why do the japs even know/care about one site getting shut down ?

    tons of sites for piracy are shut down daily. just do happens this one had a larger userbase.

    not exactly big news, or are they making it seems like some amazing victory in nippon ?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341865
    >>38341741
    Just like we want to be their lolis.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341873
    >>38341826
    Technically they are.

    Pushing it into a direction we don't want, but still supporting it.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341878
    >>38341704
    >“With the strong yen they are probably aiming to curb Japanese copying.”
    What?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341880
    >>38341741
    To be fair, a great many Americans wish they were as badass as the badasses who used to be in movies. Nowadays people are either- normal (the old standard), fatfucks or faggots/hipsters/human trash.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341887
    Them dirty japs can fuck off. I'll steal what I want. Fuck yeah America.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341897
    >>38341359
    >nippon is behind the rest of the world in piracy methods, they still use old p2p systems we gave up on years ago.
    p2p is the one thing they're not behind in. Those p2p networks like Perfect Dark, Share and Winny may be slower than torrents, but they're reasonably secure. AFAIK there was not a single arrest over PD usage as of yet.
    Also, the Japs pirate way more than we do. That's why all easily-piratable media over there are so damn expensive.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:12 No.38341898
    >>38341784
    I second this.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:13 No.38341920
    I'll buy anime and manga once english licences translate something interesting.

    I would gladly buy Kaiji DVD's if it ever got licensed.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:13 No.38341930
    >>38341231
    korean shit
    >> I couldn't care less. Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:14 No.38341947
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    This is me giving a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:14 No.38341954
    >>38341897

    its encrypted heavyer, but not as well as Usenet is.

    Its only a matter of time till they crack it like they did with Winny.

    Its popular because its easy to use. japanese people arent as computer literate as most western people are nowadays.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:14 No.38341958
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    >this thread
    >2ch

    wwwwww
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:14 No.38341963
    >>38341911
    They lie and exaggerate all the time, so no.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:14 No.38341964
    They all know that this isn't going to stop us.

    Silly japs.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:14 No.38341965
    FOOLISH ELEVENS, WE'LL TORRENT YOUR ANIME AND YOU'LL SHUT UP AND LIKE IT. WE'LL KEEP THAT MILITARY BASE IN OSAKA TOO.

    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:15 No.38341983
    I'd like to know why Japan doesn't give a shit about Chinese scanlations. Seriously, do you know how fast they translate manga? As soon as the RAWs come out they're already on it. For some reason foreigner always equals America.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:16 No.38342005
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    >“They wouldn’t buy even if it were cheap. Their anime is far cheaper than in Japan and they still won’t buy.”

    Indeed!
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:16 No.38342029
    Why on earth should we care about the moral opinion of people who spend days fapping to lolis getting raped?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:17 No.38342032
    Joke's on you Japan! I already own Cowboy Bebop and Baccano DVD's, and I've ordered the Yotsuba manga too.

    I bet you feel silly now!
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:17 No.38342055
    >>38341983

    because chinese are richer than japanese and japs are very jealous of them.

    Plus communism makes them efficent as fuck.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:18 No.38342069
    japanese otakus read manga off the shelves and then complain when we do the equivalent
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:18 No.38342075
    >>38341983
    I know right?

    My other concern is if they're going by a piracy and copyright point of view, then isn't the tons of doujin comics, unlicensed merchandise and whatever the fuck else considered piracy as well? And they're giving their money to pirates by that logic as well. Hypocrites.

    And how many of them actually don't pirate foreign media as well? Why are nips so full of this unwarranted sense of superiority? It's hilarious.
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    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:18 No.38342092
    It isn't a problem until the series gets lisenced.

    It's insane to expect us to order manga in a lanuage we can't even read + insane shipping costs.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:18 No.38342100
    >>38341983

    Right on the spot...
    In the end no one gives a shit about this not even the japanese. Only trolls and attention whores
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:19 No.38342105
    China fucking laughs at piracy. What a chinese person sees, a chinese person owns.

    Shutting down the Triad-run bootleggers would be much better for the industry.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:19 No.38342118
    >stopping piracy
    >hilariousreactionimage.jpg
    Oh Japanese people, you cards
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:20 No.38342129
    >>38342075
    Good point , but I think the difference is that with doujins the series gets publicity & doesn't lose any money.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:20 No.38342134
    >>38342075

    yeah, doujin is PROFITING from piracy. but since creators cant be bothered chasing them and see it as free publicity it goes on.

    Online piract doesnt profit from piracy, no popular site is a pay site its all free. It gives more publicity, but its portrayed as evil.
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    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:20 No.38342141
    Why don't we ask them ourselves, I remember a few good threads conversing with them with google translate
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:20 No.38342145
    Spam/advertising/flooding
    OM is not actually going anywhere, this is some assburger spamming to promote OM or "troll" or what the fuck ever he's gotten it into his head he's doing.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:21 No.38342174
    >>38342129
    downloading doesnt lose you money.

    You cant lose hypothetical money that doesnt exist.

    If someone downloads something, they probably wouldnt have bought it in the first place.

    I hate that justification against piracy..

    You cant lose sales that dont exist.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:21 No.38342177
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    >2ch
    >Sankaku Complex
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:22 No.38342200
    >>38341447
    Yeah!
    I'll send it to silly NIPS. lol
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:22 No.38342216
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    >>38342055
    >richer
    >communism
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:22 No.38342228
    Could it be that the Japanese people are rather greedy? Hell we always post our movies and video games on the internet with torrents and crap, they should be happy that we're sharing with them, its only fair that we can dl anime/manga
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:23 No.38342240
    Chances are that the majority of Japan doesn't give a shit.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:23 No.38342243
    Protip: 2ch is full of normalfags

    Responses like these aren't surprising at all
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:23 No.38342249
    >>38342075

    Doujin are allowed because most mangaka get their start from it.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:23 No.38342261
    >>38342216

    China is rich as fuck.

    Unless your some poor person , but who cares about them anymore, we forget they exist so we can get loans from them.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:24 No.38342277
    >>38342249
    Musicians get thier start in bootleg tapes, and now the internet.

    But its not allowed.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:24 No.38342287
    >>38342174
    Well I never said that manga online causes them to lose money. The difference between a doujin and the actual series is that the doujin isn't tied to the publisher.Just because someone buy a doujin doesn't mean they won't buy the manga.However if the manga is online free there is a chance a person who would have bought it won't.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342303
    Sankaku probably left out all the "Who gives a shitww" comments.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342308
    >>38342261

    Chinese GOVERNMENT is rich as fuck.

    The average person is poorer than a cleaner in Easter Europe.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342311
    You guys do know that all these responses are cherry-picked, right? Even if the majority of the posts were reasonable, he picks the most shitstorm causing ones. Artefact does this for all the 2ch threads.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342315
    >>38342243
    I don't think normalfags would give a fuck about this kind of thing enough to even comment on it, besides the occasional troll.

    >>38342240
    The majority of the US doesn't care about manga piracy in particular either, it is quite a niche dilemma here.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342321
    My friend went to china and got Iron man 2 on dvd for almost free and just after it came out in theaters, If they are gonna get us we should get them back.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342322
    >“Overseas manga is ridiculously expensive, so that’s probably behind One Manga’s popularity. However you look at it, ¥2,000 for a single volume is way too much.”

    Yes, this. When we get Japanese manga pricing in America, I will buy manga.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342324
    >>38342261
    The country, yes, but the average man? They're not Best Korea or an African country, but as I recall the average Chinese is not better off than the average Jap.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:25 No.38342334
    >>38342228
    >implying GLORIOUS NIPPON play western shit movies and horrible video games.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:26 No.38342343
    >>38341231

    korean manga
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:26 No.38342350
    >>38341965
    Bradley get the fuck off /a/ and take care of grandma unerageb&
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:26 No.38342353
    One nuke wasn't enough
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:26 No.38342376
    >>38342324

    doesnt matter, japs hate chinks, they got thier ass kicked in WWII with help from china, and chinas overall econmy makes them envyable.

    Ask a jap what they think of china, they will try escape the question, because most of them hate chinks.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342387
    >>38342322
    That's their price, man. Translated, that's 20$ for a volume.

    Now THAT'S ridiculous prices, but Japan pays it.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342391
    >>38342216
    China has lots of money. Not where its needed, though...

    Still, yeah, they pirate more than anyone. The Japanese don't complain because they're suspicious of China anyway. Besides, Japanese 2ch lurkers mock China often anyway, especially with the "4000 years of Chinese technology jokes" and whatnot.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342398
    >“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”

    I had to laugh so hard... *pinks away a tear*
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342399
    >>38341231
    looks like you don't know shit about cartoons.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342406
    >>38342353
    >implying we didnt drop two ...

    you need a history lesson son.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342407
    >>38342055
    >chinese are richer than japanese
    LOLWUT? The average income per capita of China is $6600. The average income per capita of Japan is $32,600.

    >communism makes them efficent as fuck
    Tell that to the USSR. Oh wai- how about the DPRK?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342412
    >shitkaku
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:27 No.38342413
    >shitkaku
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:28 No.38342434
    I love how Japan basically copies everything foreign and has the balls to call us out on stuff.

    Stick to your history and honor culture because your modern shit sucks dick.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:28 No.38342445
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    Eurofag here, scanlations are the only access i have to manga. So until manga starts getting released here in my language, 2ch can go fuck themselves.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:28 No.38342448
    >>38342398

    TOY STORY 3 IS LOST ON DIRTY JAPS. THEY DONT GET THE REAL MEANING AT ALL.

    AND ITS NUMBER ONE IN THIER COUNTRY.

    FUCKING GAIJIN.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:28 No.38342459
    wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:28 No.38342461
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    >>38342407
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:29 No.38342465
    LULZ

    Hay Japan

    DEAL WITH IT
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:29 No.38342474
    >>38342311
    >>38342311
    >>38342311
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:29 No.38342475
    >>38342334
    They do.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:29 No.38342486
    >>38342448
    My main language is Gaelic.

    There are 0 manga translated, fuck, most big books arent even translated.

    My piracy is justified.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:29 No.38342488
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    >>38342387
    Manga in japan is anywhere from $1 for used manga to $8 for the more expensive titles. Jump manga is $3. The weekly Jump magazine is about $2. English translated manga brought back to Japan (like Viz's translated Naruto) is about the same price as it is in the US - $9-10.
    >> HelpfulAnon !hWwJPMMNLE 07/24/10(Sat)21:30 No.38342507
    >Implying the Nipponese don't scan manga and upload them either.
    >Shikaku Complex
    >HURRDURRDUBS
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:30 No.38342515
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    >>38342461
    Not that man, but... uh... you don't actually know how to U MAD in context, do you?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:30 No.38342518
    I can't wait for some Japanese version of Sankaku to pick up all these comments.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:30 No.38342532
    >>38342005
    Anime blu-rays are like 80 bucks for 2 episodes in Japan.
    >>38341665
    I would buy Manga if it was 3 dollars for a single volume, that's way more reasonable for 10 dollars on something I can finish in the store in 20-30~ minutes.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:30 No.38342539
    HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT WAS ON SANKAKU COPLEX.

    IT MUST BE TRUE.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:31 No.38342541
    >>38342387
    LOLWUT? They pay $5 for a tankobon, less if it's used but still in good condition. I used by dozens for $1 (105yen) at Book-off. You might pay more for some of the larger thicker volumes but nowhere near $20 for manga unless you're buying a set.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:31 No.38342543
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    >>38342486
    >Gaylick
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:31 No.38342547
    >sankaku
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:31 No.38342548
    >>38342334
    japs have horrible movies and horrible video games for the most part, sorry son
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:32 No.38342614
    >>38342518
    I 'll do.
    Looking forward to Japanese reactions.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:33 No.38342629
    >serious crime

    Guise! We criminals!
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342653
    “Publishers Fear Mangaka, Not Pirates”

    "Shonen Jump’s ultimatum to readers to stop uploading its manga online or face legal consequences is in response to publishers’ deeply held fears about a loss of control over their mangaka and a collapse in magazine sales, say commentators.

    Illicit online distribution is claimed to have a disastrous effect on sales, but one of the most popularly pirated titles, One Piece, recently set a national sales record with is 57th volume, selling 3,000,000 copies in its first edition alone. In total it is said to have sold 185,000,000 copies. Sales of magazines meanwhile have steadily declined.

    The overseas popularity of titles like Naruto, Haruhi, and Lucky Star is also said to have to have been based largely on illicit online distribution – certainly Kadokawa and company never marketed them at all overseas.

    Some consider the real reason for Shueisha’s anger at illegal scans to be quite different to what the publisher would have fans believe – one journalist claims that the real fear of publishers is actually digital distribution as a whole, and the disruption it threatens to the manga industry’s traditional control over mangaka.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342661
    >>38342541
    Over at the Barnes & Noble by my place, tankobon are $10.99. Shit's retarded, and it's not even Manga I wanna read.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342669
    >>38342543

    dohoho you made it say gay...
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342670
    I'd like to see those idiot's faces when they need to 5 times the price they do currently. They'd be pirating shit themselves if they didn't already do that.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342676
    >>38341062
    This is why I hate silly NIPS.
    They arereally xenophobic. :/
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342681
    For me it's all about access. You're damn right I'm going to pirate manga that I would never be able to get my hands on. If I lived in Japan near one of the massive book stores?

    I'd be in debt due to buying rare manga I'd never find online.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:34 No.38342697
    >>38342653

    He points out that the main earner for mangaka is not serialised magazine sales but sales of the compiled volumes, or tankobon, much as it is sales of the DVD over TV broadcasts in the world of anime.

    With illegal uploads sales are indeed impacted, so some mangaka have responded by simply publishing the serialisation on their homepage and relying on tankobon sales – a growing proportion are said to not to care if the serialisation takes place online, as ultimately it serves only as an advertisement for the tankobon.

    “So the publishers are increasingly having trouble tying mangaka to their magazines. For example, were an Internet company come along and buy up the manuscripts, and then publish them online as a ‘web magazine,’ it’s possible the entire structure of the manga industry would be changed.”
    Publishers, especially Japan’s giant publishing houses, deeply fear disruptions to their established way of doing things, but with new technology change is inevitable.

    Online distribution, far from “wounding” mangaka as Shueisha claims, may actually free them from the control of traditional publishers – in the process destroying paper sales, which may be what publishers fear the most."
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:35 No.38342730
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    2ch also thinks K-On isn't moe.

    http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/07/23/k-on-is-not-a-moe-anime/

    Their views on these matters are definitely worth noting.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:36 No.38342740
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    Japan was the #1 visitor of the raw sites that went down.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:36 No.38342746
    Japan is right
    wtf U MAD /a/?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:36 No.38342764
    >“They get them even faster than the Japanese regions do. It’s too much…”

    Really?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:37 No.38342783
    I would definitely pay for manga if the price were reduced to a few dollars per volume. Of course that will never happen. Even if I learned Japanese and tried to import them I'd get hit with some kind of stupid fee. And I refuse to live in their piss poor country even if I love their media.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:37 No.38342789
    >>38342548
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo-gGes6qig
    fuck you
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:37 No.38342792
    >>38342653
    >one journalist claims that the real fear of publishers is actually digital distribution as a whole, and the disruption it threatens to the manga industry’s traditional control over mangaka.
    Of course.

    Drawing manga doesn't require large funds, the only thing which makes publishing in a large magazine still popular is the large audience.

    However, if more mangaka chose online distribution methods to publish their shit themselves, publishers would become redundant.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:37 No.38342794
    >>38341062
    so is any of this ture?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:37 No.38342803
    VIRAL SANKAKU SHIT IS CANCER
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:39 No.38342850
    >>38342730
    And they're right.

    Only the shitkaku complex audience thinks otherwise. Why don't you go back there?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:39 No.38342851
    >>38342794

    just cherry picked 2ch posts
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:39 No.38342860
    Complaining about low sales because of pirating in places you can't even buy the product is simply stupid. If they want to have sales overseas, they better start publishing shit themselves and start giving a fuck for outside of Japan (positively, they only give a fuck when they can whine).
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:39 No.38342882
    “Now get rid of Megauploader – they are busy making money off fansubs!”

    LOL FYI 2ch denizens megauploader is free...

    “Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”

    Manhwa is ugly and a ripoff of manga period. We dunt read em

    “The industry has brought this strange situation upon itself by not seeking damages. Being forced to pay damages would have set a precedent and discouraged them from being so brazen.”

    I dunt think scanlation sites and hosts can afford to be sued, you'll just be paying legal fees for court so you lose more than u gain.

    You should respect the GAIJIN because without them Sony wouldn't get such a foot hold on the world, but u guys are getting pwned by Samsung DUN DUNN DUNNN, Im a sony supporter so the shut-in NEET denizens of 2ch should start by exiting the house to the sunshine where they will burn from the UV exposure and commit suicide/massacre at Akiba to prove their NEET worthlessness to the world..touche 2ch ppl, your society is crumbling because of you.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342891
    >>38342387
    Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. Tankobon in Japan are like 5 bucks.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342892
    >>38342387
    Yeah, you have no idea what you're talking about. Tankobon in Japan are like 5 bucks.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342896
    >>38341636

    Remembering the weaboo women that fly over there are fat, yaoi loving people that does not speak a lick of japanese beyond kawaii desu ne. I am not surprised
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342900
    moot should make people get autobanned for posting "sankakucomplex".
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342908
    Fun tidbit. Remember Raw-Manga and the shit they started with watermarks? They originally did that because the major ip-ranges downloading from them were from Moonland.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342911
    >>38342541
    Do the workers at book-off speak English? I have one near me and I'm considering going there.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:40 No.38342925
    >Sankaku
    >2ch

    You might as well come here and pull comments from the average troll thread.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:41 No.38342935
    >“They wouldn’t buy even if it were cheap. Their anime is far cheaper than in Japan and they still won’t buy.”

    This is true.

    Well, whatever. It's fine that streaming/downloading sites are going down. I mean, legally, they should be.

    "Whatever" - Squall
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:41 No.38342939
    Fansubbers and scanlators making money off it? Whatever they are smoking, i want some.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:41 No.38342941
    >>38342908
    Whoops, meant to say "Raw-Paradise".
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:41 No.38342947
    >“They enjoy making scanlations – it’s like a club activity to them.”
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:41 No.38342948
    This is like me complaining about dirty Chinese thieves stealing our American classics like Twilight. Did you catch the words dripping with sarcasm? I hope so.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:41 No.38342969
    They are fucked. Any mangaka can publish his own stuff on his web and charge, say, 100yen per chapter release.

    Yet the industry won't make the steps to renew themselves. Instead they'll fight piracy in a medium they don't control at all.

    Pretty much like so many other industries who don't want to adapt to internet as a new distribution channel.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:42 No.38342994
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    >>38342850
    >K-ON
    >Not moeshit distilled
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:43 No.38343024
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    >>38342850
    I hope you're not serious.
    >> Keanu Reeves !oIRAJyjB9M 07/24/10(Sat)21:43 No.38343051
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    Silly Japs, just cause I torrent anime, manga and figurines.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:45 No.38343134
    >>38342994
    >>38343024
    >>>/shitkakucomplex/
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:46 No.38343163
    >>38342911
    Not normally. You might get lucky but a bookstore is a bookstore. Just pick out the books you want to buy and take it to a cashier. They will ask you for your point card but just tell them you don't have one.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:48 No.38343244
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    >>38343051

    >torrent
    >figurines
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:50 No.38343288
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    I love Japan yelling at foreigners for what they do. How do you think they make images like these? they download the raws we do
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:50 No.38343302
    >>38341947
    I'm with this guy.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:50 No.38343305
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    >my face when they're being strangleheld by an industry run by people greedier than jews and they can't do shit about it while I pirate my chink cartoons like a boss
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:50 No.38343316
    The reason why manga costs more overseas is because the quality of the paper used in the manga is higher. Hence the price.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:52 No.38343383
    >>38343134
    You really do seem to have this weird delusion that sankaku is the only place on the internet that thinks K-On is moe.

    Do you also believe that Jersualem is the only place where they think the holocaust happened?
    >> Werner Schneitzel 07/24/10(Sat)21:53 No.38343407
    welcome to the internet, you all got trolld
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:53 No.38343416
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    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:54 No.38343445
    Digital distribution is the real solution, but the manga publishers are scared shitless, just like how newspaper companies are floundering thanks to blogs, they would get quickly obsoleted when mangaka just host content on their own websites.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:54 No.38343451
    >>38343316
    >the quality of the paper used in the manga is higher
    What the fuck you going on about Joe? They both use fairly low rag content shit that is barely a notch above recycled newspaper shit, except for the color pages, which most US manga drop and just make black and white.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:54 No.38343460
    you kids sit behind your comps trying to justify theft is ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:55 No.38343512
    >>38343460
    Stop acting morally superior/trolling
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:55 No.38343521
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    >>38343316
    Yeah, the quality of the DVDs and Blurays is higher in japan, that's why they are more expensive there.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:56 No.38343540
    We should've finished them off 70 years ago. Fucking japs.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:56 No.38343549
    >>38343460

    oh look moralfag has come
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:56 No.38343565
    >>38343540
    No! Then we would only have manwa!
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:57 No.38343601
    >>38343316
    Fuck that shit, as long as the paper doesn't tear when I turn pages I'm fine if it's 3 bucks.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:57 No.38343607
    Pretty sure 90% people posting in this thread realize it's a troll thread but post to vent anyway.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:57 No.38343612
    Free of his fucking editors, Kubo's Bleach website vastly expands on his interests--from the Quincy Corner, a fashion-oriented area full of nothing but pin-up splash art, to Kon's Corner which is an ecchi & hentai section sharing a the prodigious load of official hentai Kubo and his assistants have spent years drawing instead of drawing backgrounds.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:59 No.38343661
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    >>38343460
    This is me giving a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:59 No.38343670
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    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:59 No.38343671
    >>38343316
    >The reason why manga costs more overseas is because the quality of the paper used in the manga is higher.
    You're joking, right?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:59 No.38343675
    >>38343612

    Does his website have a background?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:59 No.38343679
    >>38343451
    Japanese tankobons don't include colour pages either.

    And even the worst of western bound volumes use better paper than is used in the average Japanese equivalent, and then you have people like Yen Press who do really good print jobs.

    Pretty sure they're often smaller, too.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)21:59 No.38343683
    >>38343316

    >lol

    the reason printed matter is so expensive is because of the archaic system of producing,distribution,selling, and marketing in america. by the time you pick up a manga in a store it's been marked up about 70% from the publisher. add in low print volume for low sellers only adds to the final price.
    whereas in Japan they sell millions of copies for $4 using the cheapest possible way.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:00 No.38343714
    >>38342653
    >>38342697
    This is actually interesting. because that's what OpenManga aims - Online distribution.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:01 No.38343717
    >>38343451
    That's exactly what he means. Manga in Japan is cheaper because the paper is low quality and expensive overseas because the paper is better.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:01 No.38343726
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    >>38343565
    >implying manhwa is inferior to manga.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:01 No.38343750
    Then again... all this shit would never happen if TokyoPOPtard held there ground and thought a bit more about quality instead of quantity.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:02 No.38343760
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    i buy enough figs and other anime merchandise i guess its okay. and the mangas i read arent even released here.
    just like the animes i watch. i bought once an anime-dvd from gits:sac and the subtitles were like the worst translation ever, even middle-rated fansub-groups did a better job than those "official" translators. no wonder everyone loads all this stuff from the internet.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:03 No.38343808
    >>38343717
    The day I buy a figurine, is the day I do seppuku.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:04 No.38343840
    >>38343808
    I-it's not like it's my waifu or anything, I just like because it's a beautiful piece of plastic art, OK
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:05 No.38343857
    if these sites had gone the route of cruchyroll things would have been vastly different and we would be well on our way to electronic distribution for a monthly fee for manga.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:05 No.38343858
    I shall treat the Japs like how white people treat niggers:

    Good source of media and entertainment, but otherwise a despicable and useless people.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:06 No.38343885
    >“Good move. Now do it more with music and movies too.”

    GET OUT RECORD INDUSTRY
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:07 No.38343928
    >>38342792
    Thats actually kind of interesting. What they should do is move manga online, add translations, and sell it as a subscription. I'd pay for it. They could cut down costs immensely as well.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:08 No.38343970
    >>38343808
    what are you afraid of?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:08 No.38343979
    >>38343717

    *cough* the quality of the takubon's (those fat telephone books) are lower then toilet paper.

    The end release (serialized) is usually in the area of an superior quality. Not sure about all the stuff that is released in the usa, but most are just plain ugly paperbacks.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:09 No.38344026
    >>38343858

    That's really racist.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:10 No.38344049
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    >mfw thousands of stupid neckbeards got told
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:10 No.38344059
    >>38344026
    >bitching about racism
    >is on 4chan
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:11 No.38344085
    >>38343928
    Everyone would hate it because it'd basically be Crunchyroll for manga.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:11 No.38344087
    FUCK IT, BROS.
    I'M ON MANGAGHOST AND SHIT'S ALREADY GOT MOST OF MY FAVORITE SERIES' UP, AND THEY'RE NOT IN SHITTY RESIZED-FORM EITHER.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:11 No.38344098
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    >>38343679
    >Japanese tankobons don't include colour pages either.
    What the shit are you on about?

    >And even the worst of western bound volumes use better paper than is used in the average Japanese equivalent
    You are a completely ignorant fuck. Why the hell are you trying to be an apologist for their money-grubbing antics? Sure the serialized magazines are printed on pretty shit paper but the tankobons use a better grade of paper and the US doesn't use anything better.

    >Pretty sure they're often smaller, too.
    Wow. You're actually right on one thing, but the size difference isn't significant. See picture below.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:13 No.38344168
    >>38344085
    Not necessarily.
    They could contract out ex-scanlators to do the gruntwork editing and basic translation, which would be double-checked and revised by actual pros who are paid a real wage. Then it gets put online, then a few months later it's published as a real book.
    It's a solid model, but the nips are too scared to try new things.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:13 No.38344170
    >scanlation
    oh hey, a word 2ch has probably never even heard of, thanks for the bullshit news sankakucomplex
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:13 No.38344176
    >>38344085
    Except crunchyroll has a tiny collection and the subs are shit tier.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:13 No.38344195
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    >>38344098 Continued
    The difference in size is about 0.5 cm in height. They're pretty much the same width and thickness.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:14 No.38344221
    If I've said it once I've said it a million times: people who exclusively download illegal content flat-out will not pay for it.

    Most anime fans who watch a fansubbed series buy the DVD set if they really like it. No different than jap fans who watch it on tv and then decide to purchase/support their favorite series. Those of us (including myself) who only download and never buy anime/manga are not going to start even if fansubs/scanlations get shut down.

    I'm totally serious. If every fansub/scanlation gets removed from the internet tomorrow, then that will just be the end of my anime career because I'm not spending money on it. It's too expensive and there aren't enough options to watch stuff for free first to decide if you want to buy it.

    tl;dr Japan can suck my fat American cock. Their shit's not that good anyway.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:15 No.38344311
    >>38344221
    True. I am willing to pay for good anime but I will never buy anime not knowing whether its shit or not. Just like movies and music.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:16 No.38344314
    >>38343717
    >Pretty sure they're often smaller, too.
    Did you fail third grade English? The paper quality is about the same.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:16 No.38344322
    On the issue of paper quality, For shit tier jump and such, who cares if the quality is better, because shit series will only be read once.

    For other more enticing titles, I've owned volumes with paper quality ranging from good to bad. Its all the decision of the publisher. Usually shorter series or omnibus' have good/better quality.
    Itt: who cares, trollstrollingtrollstrollingtrolls
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:16 No.38344348
    >>38344195
    >read this in main page
    >think he's talking about small japanese men
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:17 No.38344359
    >>38343612
    >My face when I went to bleach.com
    >My face when I get redirected to Clorox.com

    THOSE JAPS MUST BE BEHIND THIS.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:17 No.38344365
    >sankaku
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:18 No.38344391
    Yeah but nobody cares about Japan, OP.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:19 No.38344442
    >sankaku complex
    Saw it coming.
    >> Green-ranger !!TmS5pQnYWpa 07/24/10(Sat)22:19 No.38344456
    Who goes to sankaku for anything other than camwhore thread collections?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:20 No.38344486
    >>38344456
    I go there for the porn sometimes.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:21 No.38344503
    >“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”

    Manga is boring anyway. All it's about now is boring ass drama.
    BRING BACK ANIME LIKE HOKUTO NO KEN!!!
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:21 No.38344507
    American TV shows > Japanese anime in terms of quality, storytelling, acting, and production value.

    Search your heart. You know it to be true. The only reason you watch so much anime is because American shows aren't as crazy.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:22 No.38344544
    >>38344503
    Xenophobes as usual.
    Stay classy 2chan.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:23 No.38344586
    >>38344507
    The only reason I watch anime is to troll /a/ actually.

    I already know its all of it is pretty much shit.
    >> Green-ranger !!TmS5pQnYWpa 07/24/10(Sat)22:23 No.38344602
    >>38344486
    That's fair enough, I guess some of the articles about teachers getting caught molesting students are pretty funny.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:25 No.38344661
    Less we(all ppl, trolls included) realize that the world is full of pirates, thus we should cooperate on pirating intellectual property more efficiently so that there would be no trolls who complain of not getting other intellectual property from foreign sources. Thus the world will come to a consensus and pirate content that is not ours shall become shared so that we as citizens of the Earth can enjoy UNLIMITED CONTENT!!!!! Or on the other hand we should just properly invade Japan again and call them ELEVENs (reference from Code Geass) and enslave them in anime and manga making, ha lets see Zero saving that.
    ALL HAIL BRITANNIA!!!!!!!!!!
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:25 No.38344668
    why do we care about what xenophobic people say? But yea, onemanga did get too fucking big.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:25 No.38344673
    >>38344507
    >quality
    mhmm
    >production value
    okay
    >storytelling
    Fuck no
    Britain maybe but America no.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:25 No.38344675
    I didn't knew you guys liked anime THIS much
    Just don't get too upset when they stop making it because if this continues the industry is surely going down someday
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:26 No.38344723
    >>38344675
    blame the nips themselves. We are smalltime for them, anyway, in their opinion.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:26 No.38344733
    >>38344675
    They still sell to japanese people, thats all they care about. Americans will forever look down on cartoons as childish. Japanese are the only ones that make cartoons directed at 30+ age groups.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:30 No.38344876
    bump for potential
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:32 No.38344949
    I'm going to be 100% honest: I don't want animu DVDs or manga in my apartment. I have an image to maintain, and image that wouldn't be helped by having moeshit bug-eyed animu characters staring at visitors from my shelves.

    High-quality fansubs for sale digitally (where a portion of the money goes back to the original company)- I would buy these. No dubs, that's wasted money and I won't support that garbage.

    I'm not going to have animu shit in my apartment, ever.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:32 No.38344973
    Maybe a suitable balance of piracy to maintain its international fame and proper sales distribution by the manga/anime's publisher can maintain an equilibrium to the industry and possibly growth. I blame the North American publishing industry that does a shit job in distributing their goods thus the prevalence of scanlations/fansubs
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:33 No.38345006
    Is OP cherry picking retards or are all nips actually this retarded?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:37 No.38345150
    >>38345006
    I don't know about 2ch, but on 2chan I would definitely believe, it, especially the 'manhwa' comment.

    They blame EVERYTHING on Koreans on 2chan. Everything. They're in a fight with Australia over whaling? It's Korean-Australians' fault. The U.S. doesn't like them? It's Korean-Americans' fault. Sony's stock is falling? It's because Koreans are plotting against the company.

    ad nauseum
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:38 No.38345165
    >>38345006
    OP's source is cherrypicking but it brings more pagehits so it's understandable.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:38 No.38345172
    link to 2ch thread or it never happened
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:38 No.38345182
    >>38344098
    >What the shit are you on about?
    The color pages on tankoubon are only done in special cases.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:39 No.38345210
    >>38345150
    Looks like Korea in Japan is nigga in US.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:39 No.38345231
    >>38345150
    >They blame EVERYTHING on Koreans on 2chan. Everything.
    It's true. It even happens on nico nico too. If someone is doing something stupid they say "Oh, is it a Korean? He's Korean isn't he!"
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:39 No.38345232
    >>38342055
    >communism
    >efficient
    >China
    >richer than Japan.


    Wat?

    That aside, for me it mostly comes back to availability. I live in the sticks. If I COULD get 3/4ths of what I download online I'd happily pay for it, but I can neither get behind nor support what they do to anime to get the US side releases. Often I'm paying multiples of what it costs in Japan (Those beefy packs of manga they print on the cheapest paper possible and release fairly often? Yeah, cut out all but one manga, take excesses like expensive paper and glossy covers and jack up the price and you get the US edition. Months later.

    And it's mostly the same with anime. I'm not going to wait months to watch re-runs so that I can get bad English dubbing. I can hardly remember the last time I actually, happily took the English dub.

    Never mind the stuff that never even makes it to this side of the Pacific. I'm not stealing because it was never money they could potentially earn in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:39 No.38345236
    >>38345182
    Sure they are. And when you're shown to be an ignorant fuck again you'll just backtrack/adjust your point again.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:40 No.38345251
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    >>“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:41 No.38345309
    >>38341897
    >Perfect Dark, Share and Winny may be slower than torrents, but they're reasonably secure
    >secure

    Didn't they already catch a bunch of people who distribute scan on those p2p ?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:42 No.38345342
    >>38345172
    nevermind found it
    http://gimpo.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/moeplus/1279966141
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:45 No.38345471
    >>38345342
    a thread with less than 40 replies, truly a scathing response by the japanese
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:45 No.38345485
    I bought 14 volumes of Kurohime. They decided not to release any more here.

    Why should I not read scanlations again, when I get fucked over like this, regularly, by American manga publishers who do not release in the same way as Japanese publishers do, until the series is over or cancelled?

    If manga came out here in a timely manner, or at all, I'd buy it here. But I'm loathe to do so since they could just say "Fuck it" and then I don't get to finish that manga.

    You can't lose money on manga that doesn't come out in American from Americans scanlating it. Because they would never have bought the Japanese volume.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:45 No.38345488
    Rest in Peace onemanga....
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:46 No.38345529
    >>38345485

    Sorry, sorry. I meant scanlations in English. My bad.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:48 No.38345578
    Print manga sales have been down for years on average in Japan (continually record-setting One Piece is a notable exception) and the US market has retracted, presumably other markets have suffered as well. They have many technological options to thrive in the 21st century, but they hold themselves to the past. It doesn't matter how many sites they shut down, in the end, they're only sealing their own fates.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:48 No.38345579
    >>38345471
    Artefact will write an article based on literally anything he can find. Just one reason I am sageing this fucking shitkaku thread.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:48 No.38345584
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    >> this thread
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:48 No.38345594
    >>38345485
    deal with it
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:49 No.38345652
    >>38345236
    Sorry, forgot to say that I'm not the person you were talking to. However, What he said is true - Tankoubons don't include color pages. /except/ if it's a special case, like the first chapter of certain series.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:50 No.38345673
    >>38345342
    Notice how barely anyone replied? Yeah, most Japs don't give a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:50 No.38345689
    anyone who thinks the closing of onemanga means the end of scanlations is an idiot
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:51 No.38345699
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    Lol angry japs.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:55 No.38345870
    bump
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:56 No.38345919
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    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)22:57 No.38345977
    I pirate coz it's the only way to get my uncensored loli fix.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)23:02 No.38346157
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    >>38345652
    Unfortunately I'm here in the US so my sample pool is fairly limited. I recall that Zetsubo Sensei made constant use of color pages which I don't have here but I've already shown colored pages in るくるく Vol. 1, so here's Vol. 2 & 3 (note they are a couple of chapters in) and all four volumes ぽてまよ.

    Color pages are not that uncommon in tankobons. A lot of times, the artist/author creates special materials to boost tankobon sales since a lot of fans will already have read the stories in serialization.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)23:04 No.38346219
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    Maybe I'd be willing to buy Manga and Anime nowadays if those Japanese swine stopped flooding the market with their shit taste.

    But fuck them if they expect me to buy shit like K-ON or any generic harem of season.
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)23:06 No.38346275
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    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)23:07 No.38346308
    >>38346219
    Why would you pretend to not like anime and manga to look cool on an anime and manga board?
    >> Anonymous 07/24/10(Sat)23:11 No.38346452
    >>38346219
    uh we are living in the golden age of anime now, deal with it



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