There's only 1 episode left in the series and I still have no idea of what's the point of the series.

Seriously, will he get it right, get akashi-san, and that's it?

>>36786946
Yeah, maybe. It's one of those shows where the surrealism and devices are in the service of characters, rather than plot. I dunno if there's much to be gained from picking apart the time-rewinding, I don't think there's any supreme logic to it. It's more of a device to illustrate the guy's character.

Maybe others disagree, I dunno?

>>36787194
Yes, that's probably it. I'm just regretting the fact that continuous story made by Yuasa's in this style will be even better.

>Didn't like episode 10 of Tatami Galaxy? What's the matter, too CLOSE TO HOME for you?
Nah, just too boring. The whole loser thing has been done too many times in anime. Losers in real life are boring people, they aren't much better in fiction.

>>36787491
This.

>>36786668

Unfortunately for you, I don't watch the SHITTY animu you call "masterpieces."

All the live-action blending stuff in this episode looked really great, more of that would be good.

>>36787491

Depends on the type of loser, Satou and Yamazaki were the best.

I liked it. Lack of Ozu though ;-;

>>36787638
Why would it be unfortunate for me that you don't watch it? Also, I didn't call it a masterpiece. That was just something that you said.

Fair enough though you guys that found it boring. I guess if you don't really care about or empathise with the characters something so pared-down would be pretty boring.

>>36787776
>Yamazaki

Not a loser, he's a man for sacking it up and running his dad's farm.

I really liked it, but somehow I was expecting more; the episode seemed too short.

I liked episode eight more, but this was also a great episode.

>>36787897
that was a shitty retconned ending for the anime, he doesnt do that in the book

>>36787959
oh, nice write-up again, btw

>>36787959
Yeah, episode 8 had sweet Akashi bonding.

I just finished downloading this episode. I heard Ozu and Akashi aren't in this episode, correct?

I don't see how this can end properly. How is Watashi going to fall in love with Akashi? She barely gets any screen time, and the majority of the time she spends talking with Watashi is in a flashback.

>>36788126
I'm hoping this show has a bad end, but I doubt it will.

I was bored at the beginning. But around the end I had tears in my eyes - for the first time when watching anime.

>>36788126
Ozu is, but as a spectre.

>>36788031
Just read this. Thanks.

I'm amazed how there's a really smart and enjoyable show amongst all of this garbage we used to get and almost nobody cares.

Shit just got real. Now I can't wait for ep 11, which I hope will explain everything. So far it really seems we have galaxy of tatami in here.

I really want to watch this show but after I watched ep1 I was internetless for a while and now cant find a good torrent for the remaining episodes so far. I'm waiting for it to finish airing so I can grab a batch. ;_;

>>36788333
I'm amazed that you are a little shit who thinks his taste is better than everyone else's. Oh wait no I'm not, that's the standard here.

Oh, and also I liked how in this episode Protagonist was showed from a good side. It was kind of heartwarming. Even if life sucks, there are always good sides.

>>36788397

http://tatami.anirena.com/

Here are DDL links

>>36788397
http://tatami.anirena.com has megaupload links.

>>36788432
-10/10. GTFO.

>>36788474
>>36788478
Thanks a lot bros! Guess I know how I'm gonna spend my friday night.

>>36788397
As for torrents, sure, there are. .ass files with J-pwq translation+raws, you have to mux it together yourself. Or muxed megaupload from J-pwq site.

>>36788454
Good side? I thought it showed his worst. The episodes which highlighted Watashi's good side were the Cycling Club Soleil and the Hero Circle Show Club episodes. This one showed his rejection of the world because of his realization of what reality was and entailed. Despite the myriad of stuff he explored and did he never once thought to reach out to the opportunity that presented itself, even with the fortune teller's exhortations.

>>36788555
Have fun.

>>36788603
I'll just get the DDL from http://tatami.anirena.com/. Thanks a lot anyway man.

I think it must also be added that he escaped to masturbation quite a few times this episode. It was hinted at with the quickly moving clock scene (and the tissue paper beside it), and more obviously expressed with Johnny and the hamster-wheel.

Masturbation is also an escape. Most men do it, but it is also a presentation of fear: it is an escape to one's imagination after all, where, while freedom is infinite (it is our own consciousness after all), it is nevertheless just virtual.

>>36788555
You're welcome!

>>36788624
No, I mean - look, in this episode Watanashi was shut-in neet. From this point of view every other Watanashi was a great man. He even said it himself - that every other 4.5 tatami room wasn't rose colored, but at least wasn't bad. As bad as being shut-in.

>>36788624
>>36786668
you seem to want to discuss it, look what i wrote here
>>36787984

>>36788808
Ah. That was actually one of my contentions in my post: Watashi had reached the absolute nadir of his cowardice in this episodes as compared to the previous ones. Because while the previous ones had instances of his cowardice, this episode was a confirmation and acceptance of that cowardice. It was the final step of escaping from reality that he recognized and realized but could not bear. The others could not realize that they were already doing something with their lives despite their failures, as they kept on seeking the impossible ideal. The real failure, the current Watashi in this episode, sees them as flawed but better than him, as they are: at least they tried to do something with their lives, and this is most evident with the Cycling Club Soleil.

To pick oneself up, however, one must realize he's fallen down. I think that was the little epiphany this episode: next episode will be him picking himself up.

>>36788977
Yeah, this.

>>36788853
I agree with you in some sense and I agree with your conclusion that it's all up to him. However I cannot state all my points in these threads or post, so I hope you'd make do with this write-up of mine:

http://animeotaku.animeblogger.net/2010/06/yojo-han-shinwa-taikei-10-the-tatami-galaxy/

I tried to address the importance of the references Watashi made to the people, like Shingen, Schrodinger, and even Shuji Terayama. The background is important in the appreciation of the episode, but one can also do without it.

I do agree, he has to act. This was the culmination of the previous episodes as well as the culmination of his cowardice.

>tripfag advertising his blog.
disgusting

>>36789090
i don't know how i hate you more, as a tripfag or as a pretentious hipster

fuck you

>>36788977
>To pick oneself up, however, one must realize he's fallen down. I think that was the little epiphany this episode: next episode will be him picking himself up.

I think this "picking himself up" will, for the main part, mean he'll just stop whining.

jesus christ
i dont know if its possible for anyone to be more pretentious than this

>>36789124
Indeed. But I do have points that do not fit within the expanses of this thread.

at least the guy tries to discuss the goddamn anime. what have you guys ever done except troll?

>>36788185
THIS

this episode wasn't boring in any way. the whole 'shut in loser' thing has been done a million times before in anime but this is by far the best version of it I've seen since Mind Game.
>>36789124
I don't mind it. he's actually discussing the show instead of spouting catchphrases about it and going either "fuck yeah" or "shitsux".

>>36789165
I think it will be more than that. We've already seen that he can exert much effort if he desires: all he needs is to channel that effort into grabbing the opportunity that presents itself and just holding on to it.

>>36789257
>>36789257
>>36789257
Yeah. I'd pick him over you trolls any day.

I'm still waiting for Commie to sub episode 4.

>>36789454
I think they dropped the series already. J-pwq is a great alternative if you want HQ release, while BigPancake is a good SD release.

I thought the alternate tatami room thing was really clever, especially after the 'master's speech in the past episode. also now I finally realize how fitting the ED animation is.

overall this show had some really great symbolism without feeling pretentious in the least, and it's awesome.

>>36789565
Jesus christ.
>he's actually discussing the show instead of spouting catchphrases about it and going either "fuck yeah" or "shitsux".
So what you go and do is:
>overall this show had some really great symbolism without feeling pretentious in the least, and it's awesome.

Yeah, fuck you. You're a fucking idiot.

>>36789519
It's not dropped until the State changes from "Ongoing" to "Dropped" on anidb!

>>36789565
if you use the world "pretentious" it turns automatically in pretentious shit.

>>36788808
You're going about this wrong, you have to view this episode seperately from the others. It's not the question this time if watashi is a bigger failure than in the previous episodes. This episode was there to serve a purpose: his self-realization, enlightenment about his situation. That being said, you could actually say: while he walked the most distance in the previous episodes, this time he got the farthest.

>>36788977
>cowardice this episode
At the begging of this episode it surely seems so. but once he reaches the point where he goes crazy, and walks through the same rooms again and again, he shows more courage than those in the previous episodes. Meaning he THINKS about it, instead of just mindlessly taking a slightly different option (which were presented to him at the start of each episode, in form of student club flyers).

Of course the galaxy room this episode is just a metaphor for how in reality, when he is sitting in his room, all alone, he finally sees through his situation, and acknowledges his mistakes, while not blaming others.

>>36789565
The opening is even more fitting, don't you think?

>>36789565
and hey, it's also hilarious. it manages to mix great humor (which is very rare in anime) with unpretentious symbolism and an actual reasonable message (something even rarer in anime).
>>36789632
I'm pointing out certain details I liked and noticed about the show (like pointing out the meaning of the ED animation), I fail to see how that's on the same level as "I liked it" or "I didn't like it"

>>36789637
Having read the website, I think you are correct. Commie actually is trying to add OP and ED karaoke to the whole thing, so they're just waiting for that to finish and then they'll release a batch. I'd gladly pick their releases up, too.

>>36789747
If you can't understand why your comment was worthless then I don't even...

I enjoyed seeing how this episode tied in with the others. Everything else that I was planning on saying has already been said, so I guess I can't say much other than that.

On a somewhat related note: how is this doing in the ratings? I'd love to see this get high marks; then Yuasa might be able to produce that anime he said he's been planning for God knows how long.

>>36789699
holy shit, now I finally realize what it all means.

you're right, it's brilliant.

>>36789685
It's actually him realizing that he could act in the first place alongside the confirmation of reality ('I want to escape this maze!') that will make it easier for him to finally act, and properly this time, for the final episode.

>>36789747
Ignore the haters. Nothing good comes from responding to them.

To all of those who think this is about "shut-in loser", nhk-like episode:

it's not the purpose. it's about watashi seeing himself for what he is in this show. and also seeing the other characters and the world(s) he lived in for what they are. the being alone in a room just served as a device to bring thsi across. inactivity is not the problem or the foundation of the show (like nhk), hell it wasn't in the previous nine episodes.

>>36789805
In one of my previous write-ups it's also quite ingenious that at the most basic tier it's just with Watashi, Ozu, and Akashi.

The next tier are the characters who are pivotal to the plot but don't affect Watashi as directly as Ozu and Akashi, like Hanuki, Jougasaki, and Higuchi.

Finally, the last tier of characters are those who are still important but aren't as pivotal as those previous two tiers.

It can be seen that the repetition of the characters in the montage after that have already appeared in different episodes, from Watashi's different incarnations to Kohinata to even her father.

http://ib4f.com/board/1000chan/ Look the master of chans...

>>36789890
agreed. the show isn't about him learning to not be a shut-in and socialize, but about learning to change his attitude and flawed worldview.

So is this implying that he knows he was/is in some sort of recursion of time, or is he making an assumption? I'd think it's the latter.

>>36790110
actually, at the end of the love doll episode he said something by the lines of "OKAY, ENOUGH, I FUCKED UP. REWIND." so I assumed that he was already aware of the whole time travel thing at that point.

>>36789854
where did he say in this episode "I could have known that from the beginning, and done everything right the first time"? Not that it really matters, because all the other episodes happened already.

What I hope for the last episode is that it will NOT explain things like "sometimes you have to accept how things go, it's about living with it" or "akashi's love is my opportunity, if i have a partner things go different, nothing is wasted".

I hope it will leave the ending a bit open, and come up with a amazing, a bit cryptic new message, the ones who make the anime get paid for it after all!

>>36790110
I'm more of the opinion that he's making an assumption, as he's not familiar with the existences of his other incarnations. His perceptions of them are just inchoate and incomplete, and I tried to relate this with a sort of microcosmic, individual collective unconscious for Watashi. I may be wrong, since I'm no psychology expert, I just read about it.

>>36790164
I thought that was just a wish of his. He has no knowledge of his other incarnations, and the only incarnation with some sort of familiarity to the existence of universes was the Honwaka Watashi. It is quite telling that it is the Watashi who first admits that the fault solely falls on his shoulders.

>>36790204
I don't recall him saying anything like that, but I'll try to rewatch the episode again later.

>>36789879

>>36790209
He has hinted in the past that he's aware of the predicament he's in. Maybe he's aware of it in some of his parallel worlds, while in others he isn't?

>>36790204
The ending will be with Watashi taking Akashi to the neko ramen.

Clearly, it was all a conspiracy, coerced by the neko ramen owner and the fortune teller.

I may have made that last bit up.

This episode was nothing but the same old "hero sees the light and gains the confidence/knowledge to get the good end" shit you see in every story. The only positive thing about this anime is the asthetic appeal, the mixing of 2d and 3d in the latest ep. The plot and characters are boring as fuck.

Has anyone noticed how meaningful Watashi's quip towards Ozu was, especially in light of the previous episode?

'Why do you haunt me so?'
'It's how I show my love.'

It's things like these that make watching this series a joy.

>>36789969
pffffffft
Akashi has rarely been important to the plot AT ALL. That's not a tier of plot important character's it's a list of the order in which the character's appear in the OP.

>>36790431
Are you kidding?

I posted this in the other thread before realizing this one was here. I'll post it here too, since this thread seems to be more active:
I felt like this episode kind of subtly reworked the primary theme of the show.

I've mostly felt like the theme was something to the effect of no matter what you're circumstances are, your temperament will ultimately determine your fate. Thing is, every episode up to this point seemed kind of hopeless, because Watashi refuses to man up/grow up and make something of his opportunities.

Episode 10 kind of cast that in a new light. It's the same theme, but not quite as hopeless feeling, because Watashi is finally realizing that each one of those unique circumstances all had potential to provide him with genuine happiness.

Really cool to see that the bearded Watashi was trying to tell himself to realize what he's got. I wasn't sure how the time overlap was going to work, and I feel like it turned out the best way it could have.

Over the course of the series Watashi made two promises to Akashi: the first was to take her to Neko Ramen, and the second was to complete the movie that remained unfinished by the end of the episode. It is telling, just as the other movies of Watashi reflect what happened in the succeeding episodes that his final movie was a love that transcended space and time, culminating in the question that he asks Ozu, and could ask Akashi as well (the red-string vs. black-string of fate in play):

'Why do you haunt me so? (omae wa itsumo watashi ni tsukimatotte kureru ne)'
'It's how I show my love.'

>>36790394
well yea you are right in your generalization, but the difference is how plot-wise and character-wise this has been handled. the stories about the different clubs were all wildly imaginative and innovative, and the characters were edgy and polarizing.

but i agree, to this point it's just solid, if nothing new in terms of television. it served to lead us up to this point where we are now.

and now is the time to see where it goes. if the ending delivers in an awesome, unexpected way, this will be seen as a future classic.

>>36790509
Oh no, no Akashi end?

>>36790491
Sorry man, this thread is for pretentious idiots who make up rubbish to make the show seem deep when it isn't. You don't belong here.

This tripfag reeks of gaia and/or animesuki level faggotry and should fuck off back there.

In a sense, this episode actually makes a case of sorts in favour of being isolated. The other instances of the MC were 'better', in a sense, for getting out there and living their lives (same as how Ozu was 'better' for just enjoying his college life), but this episode's Watashi, in his isolation, came to the most understanding about his situation of them all.

I'm one of the nearly/potential-hikikomori types most of us here are/know - even with life, friends, job, etc, but there's always the big part of you that just wants to go back to your room and lock all the doors, right? As I get older, I find myself making peace with that impulse, and abandoning any regrets about the past over how I should've went out more often, made more friends, joined another club, etc. All those days alone were necessary to get me to where I am now.

I think that's the point this episode was making about the MC. He's the kind of guy alone that needs to embrace his isolationg, look it in the eye and eat it up, so he can come out the other side.

ITT: people forget that bearded Watashi was already introduced in episode 5

>>36790491
Watashi fails to see reality in the previous episodes. In this one, he sees reality all too clearly and is clearly depressed by it: however, this features a chance to finally act, because he realized that despite how reality is, it's not really all that bad as compared to avoiding choosing and acting altogether.

>My face when /a/ was being pretentious near me.

You're worse than the Ico/SotC fags on /v/

>>36790394
>This episode was nothing but the same old "hero sees the light and gains the confidence/knowledge to get the good end" shit you see in every story
...so what? I fail to see how use of tropes is a flaw in itself if the tropes are executed in an interesting new way.

the animation and art IS a huge part of this show's appeal, and there's nothing wrong with that - few well animated shows use visuals to complement the story and atmosphere as wonderfully as this instead of just making it a shiny little extra.
>>36790418
aaaaaaaaand you're right again.

>>36790476
he is right. up to now she just presents an opportunity, and the viewer might sense that she becomes more important regarding the end. watashi did not join any club or changed his actions because of her. she's a merley a companion (albeit who is presented as something more important) like the other characters.

>>36790569
Wonderful point.

>>36790569
jesus fuck, "isolation", not "isolationg"

brb guys gotta do some isolationg lol

I KNOW THAT'S YOU ANTITYPE FFFFFFFFF

>Tatami thread with SoundFury
TIME TO READ SOME HERPDERP OVER-ANALYSIS!

>>36790566
You're right, he's pretentious and deserves a permaban. And we need to end this Tatami Galaxy faggotry too.

Then we can come back to reporting unrelated threads, bashing big 3, insulting moefags, saging...

So what ever became of this?

>implying this thread is nearly as bad as Haruhi/Bakemonogatari threads in terms of pretentiousness

HURR DURR

So deep, so human.

>>36790654
There is nothing new about a loser seeing more succesful versions of himself, whether it is through dreaming or time travel.

>>36790767
I remembered that too while watching episode 9 last week. I wonder if they'll ever bring it up again?

>>36790767

He was "rejected" by Kohinata in the first and second time-lines.

http://ib4f.com/board/1000chan/ The 4chan challenge!!!

>>36790509
>>36790509
i agree with some things you wrote before, but this is too much head up your ass. you're projecting your own theories on the show, rather seeing and writing about what we actually watched.

>>36790663
You fail to recognize that she has been the only uncorrupted person that can without bias be truly called Watashi's friend. It's not only in light of the fourth episode, but there have been a multitude of instances where one recognizes that Watashi is truly at peace when she's around and vice versa.

The first episode features her saving Watashi from being chased; the second features her as the only one who appreciated Watashi for who he was; the fourth has her as a companion and the only one helpful to Watashi as he sought for something; the seventh shows her humanity and the incident that brought them closer; the eighth is the apex, where it seems that it's not only Watashi who has a thing for Akashi but vice versa. It was the most open we've seen Akashi get, as well.

Ninth has this buildup all for nought because of Watashi's stupidity. She's not merely a companion, because she's also connected to Watashi perhaps by the red string of fate.

>>36790750
He really does over-analyze things. He often completely misses the point by introducing external thoughts that are not mentioned by the source, simply to demonstrate his knowledge. It's partly endearing but mostly annoying.

Gorespammer might have a new target here.

>>36790866
Do rewatch the first two episodes. Those are the promises of Watashi to Akashi. The unfinished movie is indeed just an assumption, but the promises were made by Watashi himself.

>>36790767
That is actually a very good question, since Kohinata is Ozu's girlfriend. I wonder how this whole thing's going to play out in the final episode.

>>36790819
I said "execution", i.e. how well the point is made. it's all about Yuasa's direction.

a single story can be told in many ways and I think Yuasa is one of the best storytellers in animu.

>>36790821
The relationship will continue. We'll go back to something similar to episode 1 with the river. Ozu gets thrown in and he breaks his leg. That's why they've been mentioning how 'shallow' the river is all of this time. Remember the end of episode 5 with what Higuchi said?

I'm not sure why people are taking this episode to be a revelation of sorts, studying the dominant colour of an episode gave hint to different universes a long time ago.

PRETENTIOUS PARAGRAPHS EVERYWHERE

>>36790880
>demonstrate his knowledge
well yeah but having read a lot of his posts so far in the thread, he can't really put his supposed knowledge well to use here. he's slapping his theories in our face, which are hanging by a thread and seem to stem from minor events in the series.

he misreads the characters' purpose, put them in his own galaxy, and suddenly he imposes on us his own made-up reasons on why teh characters acted like they did. it's how i wrote and analyzed stuff when i was 15 back in school.

Wasn't Watashi rejected by Kohinata only during the first two episodes? It wasn't even clearly stated to be a rejection, but he shifts focus towards Akashi in the third episode only to fail despite all his effort because of misdirection.

>>36791186
I think that relationship was in the first year. The time rewinding is done in year 3 and it goes back to year 2.

First Week Sales
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Tatami Galaxy Vol. 1-------781 copies
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Bakemonogatari Vol.1---------44,500 copies　


Bakemonogatari > Tatami Galaxy

>>36791161
I've never imposed anything on anyone in this thread. I state my own opinions on the matter, often in reply to others' opinions, but have never forced them down their throats. You disagree or agree, that's fine with me. These are merely hypotheses, after all.

>>36790566

The thing is, I don't even know what people mean by deep anymore. The word has taken on derogatory connotations that are all over the place.

To me, Tatami Galaxy has some simple, but important themes that can be applied to real life in a constructive way. What the show is about means something to me. So, I like it.

>>36791294

Nice try. The first volume of Tatami isn't out for almost two more months.

>>36791266
Doesn't it always go back to the first year? The episodes never fail to start with ... 'then I was a freshman student and before me lay countless doors to that rose-colored campus life.' It's been without exception for most of the series, so I assume it goes back to his first year.

>>36791390
this, and also it's just extremely fun to watch.

>>36791404
well that explains why it sold so few then...

>>36791023
>hurr discussion=pretension
School out for summer amirite?

ITT: The reason to why /a/ is the worst board in 4 chan, surpassing /v/ and /b/

Now, we can't even discuss something with actual content as we'll get told by some faggot that we're pretentious watching pretentious anime herp a derp.

This is what happens when you only watch anime to fap.

faggots

>>36791544
Idiot posting his laughable blog theories and over analysis, yes, it is pretentious shit.

You guys just hate everything. Here's a guy who, while being a tripfag, tries to discuss stuff, and you call him names and then whine at how the big three occupies most of the board or at the moefags that populate other threads. He's not even doing jackshit to any of you.

Sure is summer in here.

>>36791663
>Now, we can't even discuss something with actual content
Every anime has content. Get your head out of your ass.

>>36791023
Hello kind sir, take your faggotry with you and go re-watch your k-on season 1, thank you.

ITT: Normalfags, hipsters and liberal art students.

>>36791663

It'll just be one or two trolls, man. Don't worry about it. Most things get trolled one way or another.

>>36791707
I mean with some good content. Not some brainless shit just to serve as bait to otaku.

inb4 opinions etc.

here's an idea: let's just stop replying to the shitposts.

I'm guilty of this too, moreso than most if not all of you, but still.

my favorite animes are kaiba, the tatami galaxy, flcl, bakemonogatari and mind game

A Tatami Galaxy thread with over 100 posts what am I reading oh god.
Also it's been really fun so far. I stand by my initial impression that Ozu is a bro.

>>36791723
-0/10.

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>>36791767
Not sure if troll/reverse troll.

>>36791749
I also filtered a couple of buzzwords, like "pretentious".

Yeah, previously I didn't actually believe the stuff about the boards getting worse during summer, but... yeah. Huh.

Is there a surer sign of immaturity than these hysterical accusations of pretension? probably yes but you get my drift

I read what Sound and Fury wrote and most of them makes sense. He's not even replying to the trollbaits, so I don't know what's wrong with him trying to discuss the series. He has his opinions, and we have ours. The fuck?

>>36791795
the things we learn on /a/.

>>36791767
mine are this, flcl, mind game, dead leaves and gurren lagann

Discussion is pretension, pretension that the discussants possess some iota of intellect

Discuss.

Going back to the issue at hand, doesn't it remind back to the first year for the first five episodes? It's only in episodes six to eight where time moves back, but only a little.

>>36791779
Yeah, Ozu's a great guy. Hope we see more of him in the last ep.

This show is a great warning. We shouldn't keep thinking about how our lives would have been different if certain things had/hadn't happened. Because of our personalities, we'd ultimately end up in the same position. But what we can do, is get out of our room, look at the things we do have, and use them. Even if it's just using our legs to go out for a stroll in the rain.

Mochiguman needs a Sogeking-esque OP parody

discuss

>>36790491

I mean, the beginning of the episode just felt really depressing and oppresive, because it seems like he's reached the end of the line and there's no hope.

But then, as he's going from room to room, once he realizes what is happening and that each room is one of his own rooms - he realizes that each room is not a room of failure, but rather, a room full of life and opportunity; each one is unique and offers happiness in it's own way.

Watashi thinks that his pessimistic view of life that humans are hopeless victims of fate is the only valid view. In this episode, he's realizing that the world offers him opportunities, and he has choices. Which is just as valid a worldview, and one that's much more likely to offer fulfillment.

>>36790022
Superior:
http://ib4f.com/board/brochan/

>>36791901
Yes, it goes 2 years back with every episode except maybe episode 6-8.

>>36791746
>I mean with some good content.
I don't see how Tatami Galaxy falls under this so called "good content". It's a paper thin show with paper thin message. The problem is faggots can't just enjoy that for what it is and have to copy paste their idiotic blogs here. They have to pretend there is something more to this show than there is to convince themselves they have "mature tastes" are somehow better than a kid who reads a kid manga for kid reasons.

>>36791779
I assume most people could tell Ozu wasn't a complete bastard from the get-go.

>>36791779
I thought that Ozu was a true friend of Watashi when he did what he did in the fifth episode. He may have had an ulterior motive with meeting Kohinata, but it clearly showed his concern for Watashi.

In fact, as early as the first episode we already see Ozu as one of the guys who try to pair up Watashi and Akashi together, seeing that they look good (he probably even influenced Higuchi on this matter).

Watashi himself recognizes his desire for an impish companion in the tenth episode.

>>36791954
a lot of my favorite anime/manga are aimed mainly at kids.

>>36791954
You just ain't deep, kiddo.

>>36791930
Great point stated.

>>36791884
All human endeavour is pretension.

>>36792021
I'm pretty sure he was trying to help him out with the letter 'prank' too.

>>36791912
Why do morons like you think common sense is deep?

>>36791795
>TATAMI GALAXY FANS ARE PRETENTIOUS
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fixed

Man, where'd you get all this great artwork, diebuster?

>>36791912
Aristotle said there was a great difference between mere potentiality and its translation to reality. Potentiality unfulfilled is just another potentiality. Reality realized, while imperfect, is better than just the imagination of things. I agree that it is one of the series's messages.

Wow, Is this why /a/ doesn't talk about good shows?, because there are people who act like annoying little kids?

Hipster circlejerk.

no idea what the hell this is

>>36792254
>Wow, Is this why /a/ doesn't talk about good shows?
We talk about good shows all the time.

>>36792266
but I'm posting it anyway

>>36792117

Not the guy you're responding to, but what do you define as deep exactly?

Are you looking for some kind of complex scientific/sociological/ontological theories presented in narrative form? Something else?

I'm not saying common sense is deep, but what is?

>>36792254
because we can't ignore trolls

SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET.

>>36792238
Absolutely agreed.
I think the Master says as much at one point.

>>36792254
Yes. But it's worse at times like this, when it's daytime /a/ AND summer.

>>36792327
he isn't looking for something deep

he's accusing people of calling this show deep solely based on the fact that they're actually discussing it instead of fapping to the characters and making two-word posts.

I'm glad SandF and diebuster and the other guys try to keep discussing the series despite all these trolls. Great thread, thanks.

>>36792359
I come on nighttime /a/ most of the time, and it is a bit more tolerable.

Akashi is waifu.

>>36791884
All is vanity

Another special feature about the 10th episode was that instead of featuring the cherry blossoms it featured a fall of red leaves: it seemed to reveal that reality for Watashi has just seeped into him finally in this episode and his immediate reply was to escape into his 4.5 tatami room and into himself. Just something that's another nod to Yuasa's brilliance.

I wish to go drinking with Akashi.

>>36792438
the thread only started going downhill when we started replying to "PRETENTIOUS" posts.

maybe we just ran out of stuff to discuss? this thread has had a good run.

>>36792533
I wonder how things would turn out if one went drinking with both akashi and hanuki

If I recall correctly, in the episode with the pyramid scheme and the giant blimp, didn't Ozu run off to the bridge Watashi was shown on in episode 1 wearing the same clothes he had on during that particular scene? I've never seen anyone mention that. What do you guys think?

>>36792510

>THIS FUCKING POST

>>36792238
oh come on with your aristoteles bullshit now. you're just asking for it. it's trivial what you're saying by the way.

and the message of the series is exactly the opposite lol:
>impefect reality, better than not realized
simply no, the chracter has an imperfect reality for 8 episodes, and totally realizes that it's shit.

the show's message, if we have to name one, would rather be: make up your own thoughts about how you go about your life and have confidence in your decisions, rather than half-assing stuff that other people say you should do.

This show better have a bad end, or I will be pissed.

>>36792595
Yep. I'm still not sure what he did to piss off those people so much.

>>36792565
Akashi seems to be a quiet drinker. I mean, she was drinking during the first episode while Ozu and Watashi fired all those fireworks into the loves. I recall she called him an idiot during that time, during Watashi's escape in the second episode, and during the ninth episode, where he really was an idiot.

>>36792595
Look here
>>36791019

It'll probably have an open end with Watashi giving her the frog.

>>36792634
I think you will be pissed.

Maybe he'll use his new universe crossing ability to go back to a time when he could have done things right.

>>36792634
It won't. Yuasa doesn't like bad ends.

>I'm just sick of all the gloomy movies coming out these days! I decided I'd had enough with dark stuff after Cat Soup. What I want to see is positive movies from now on. Enough turning inwards, people; let's turn outwards! What's important is right here on this earth. Not everybody's dreams come true, but only those who act have a chance of acheiving their dreams. All differences aside, it all boils down to one thing: The world is interesting!

>>36792626
I think the message is very similar to that of Mind Game (I know they're both based on a manga and a book respectively, but Yuasa just really likes this theme), as Yuasa put it back in 2004:
>The original manga says, "Do it! Go for it! Don't let anything stop you! You can do anything if you try!" Well, I personally don't have the confidence to go that far, so I sort of reined in the message a bit. So it's still "You can do anything if you try!" but tempered a bit; I have him slam headlong into a wall afterwards. Even if you fail, the important thing is to try. The result isn't important. The important thing is to enjoy the process of striving.
>I just don't think results are that important. If you do your best, and you don't get good results, then just try again from a different angle, or look for a different path altogether. There's just something beautiful about the process of trying and failing and trying again when you're truly living your life to its maximum potential.
>I'm just sick of all the gloomy movies coming out these days! I decided I'd had enough with dark stuff after Cat Soup. What I want to see is positive movies from now on. Enough turning inwards, people; let's turn outwards! What's important is right here on this earth. Not everybody's dreams come true, but only those who act have a chance of acheiving their dreams. All differences aside, it all boils down to one thing: The world is interesting!

>>36792425

Yeah, but I'm curious to know if these people are just trolling because they just don't like anime they can't fap to, or if they actually have a non-derogatory definition of deep.

I guess you're saying it's the former.

>>36792801
Oh, god, it ties so much with the anime series. Hahahaha.

>>36792801
>>36792810
haha, oh wow.

>>36792833
THIS ties in even better:
>Yes, you're right. In the original manga, only Nishi gets a chance to start over. I thought that wasn't fair. I'm not that young anymore myself, and I thought it wasn't fair for only the young to get a chance to start over. So I wanted to give all of the rest of the characters a chance to start over, too. Just to be fair; it's obviously not the way life works. It's the way you wish it did. If you make a mistake, start over again. It's not too late. That sort of thing.

note, he said this in 2004.

Best anime this season, hands down.

>>36789090
i appreciate the intensive nature of your post. it was well-written.

>>36792626
Nah, you've got it wrong. It's enjoy what you do have and make the most of it. Take the chances that you are offered. Don't continually think the grass is greener on the other side, always striving for something that won't make any difference to you anyway. In Episode 9, he had everything he wanted, but still wasn't content. In episode 10, when he had nothing, he could see all the good things he had in the other episodes.

>>36793102
Indeed. It was obvious when his heart was still painful despite everything he purportedly desired in the previous episodes. He had women at his beck and call, he had the money, and yet he was still a malcontent.

>>36793102
>in episode 9, he had everything he thought he wanted
fixed

>>36793180
Yeah, that's better

All right, I have to go soon. Thank you to everyone who tried to keep the discussion alive despite the hecklers and thank you for your insights on the episode. I had a lot of fun chatting with you guys.

Good day to all.

>>36793250
bye, thanks for the discussion

>>36793250
Thank you. See you next week.

this series moe??

>>36793369
I love this pic~!

>>36793369

Mugi!

>>36793369
>>36793425
ozu can out-moe any k-on character

>>36793425
sup

>>36793242
I understood that as him thinking that way because, as a result of all the bad stuff that happened to him, he assumed that the only sane way out is having a "sink or swim" completely selfish world view

once again refusing to pick the middle ground and realize that just because the world isn't rose-colored, that doesn't make it an entirely dark and painful place either.

>>36793157
>>36793102
yes, but where in the season is it shown that it's not right to be malcontent??he had every right to be malcontent at the end of episode 9, he accomplished nothing. on the opposite in episode 10, it showed us that it WAS right be unsatisfied with the way things turned out each episode, and he realized it, and now he's gonna do better.

Well, this thread turned out kind of okay.

Next week, let's try and make a real effort to ignore the trolls guys.

If the last ep does justice to the series (or even if it doesn't) it would be great to have a genuinely good discussion about it.

AKASHI
SO
CUTE

Wow, kind of sucks that I've yet to watch the episode and I already see a 200+ post thread about it (though some are just blatant troll posts).

>>36792810
Yeah, I figured the show was going to be quite similar to Mind Game after the first 2 episodes or so.

>>36792266
>>36792290
It's basically him wondering what having a bra would be like and what Akashi thinks about her own bra.

>>36793369
Sure