>>36477270
It's not even that long

tl;dr

BELIEVE IN THE LOLI WHO BELIEVES IN YOU.

The majority of /a/ is made up of social rejects and failures. Even if we were all to take this courage wolf bullshit advice and get out there, the vast majority of us will crash and burn. You always get one or two posts in these kinds of threads saying "Look at me, I have a great job and girlfriend and everything is wonderful! Try hard and this can be you!"
But that is not the case for us. It never will be. I don't doubt that at one point, every anon here worked hard for something. But whatever they did only ended in failure. Hard work and determination don't always win out in the end. They do for some people, but the majority fail.
So we take solace in shows like Gurren Lagann that tell us that with enough willpower, we can be the greatest heroes in the galaxy. But examine it a little closer. How big was the Dai-Gurren Dan? It was made of only a handful of strong men and women. I'm sure there were plenty of other people in the GL world who worked hard and were determined, but they all failed and died.
That's just the way the world works. It can't be helped.

>>36477381

ROW ROW FIGHT THE... uhh...

>>36477405
>It can't be helped.

/a/non's self-loathing doesn't stem from the fact that they fall short of others' expectations, but rather they fall short of their own. Social phobias, physical short-comings, etc. Until /a/non forces himself to take the first step towards bettering himself in his own mind, the self-loathing shall continue.

I don't think anime is the issue here; however, I think that immersing yourself in tales of adventure and the camaraderie one longs for makes one's life seem wholly mundane by comparison.

>>36477465
Just NC

To the anons that are having trouble with social shit. WORK OUT AND GET A JOB. It forces you into social situations and gets you money/a better body. Start off small and slowly gain some confidence. When you're ready hit the world and meet people some how. Go to bars, find online gatherings, fucking try craigslist or something.

>>36477405
If that's who you are, then that's who you are. Yes, you may be a reject to society, and you care? Ask yourself this, why should you care what other people think of you.

Really in the long run the only people you need to worry about THAT are the individuals helping maintain your lifestyle; and with those ones, you can do just enough to make them happy so you can continue receiving the benefits.

My own self-loathing has nothing to do with other people.

>>36477465
I was the dude looking for someone to talk anime about in the other thread. Wish we could go hang but I'm on the other side of the country (South Florida). Sorry bro.

>>36477405

It is impossible to succeed when you've already admitted defeat. Life is a series of conflicts. Many times we will feel bested, or like we've just plain lost. It isn't until we retreat and give-up completely that we've been defeated. Like all good things, it takes practice.

No
You are a failure
Hide it all you want but you will forever be a failure. Your very existence provides nothing to the universe that we live in, when you die you will not be remembered, your genes will not be passed on, your family name that was passed down to you by your father and grandfather will be erased from reality. You are worthless and pathetic and can easily be replaced. THAT is who you are as an individual. You can die now or continue to fall down the spiral worthlessness.

Fucking spirals.

Good luck being everything you want to be while without money and living with your mother.

>>36477630
>WORK OUT
Working out brings back bad memories.

>AND GET A JOB.
Oh, get a job, how easy, how simple. Why didn't I think of that before. You're a real genius.

SORRY BRO, BUT I WON'T LISTEN UNTIL YOU PUT THAT IN CAPS LOCK

YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT IT IN CAPS LOCK.

>You don't need acceptance form society. Why should you let other people control you, tell you what you need to be? You only need acceptance of yourself, you do NOT need acceptance from anyone else. The endless self-reenforcing negative critisim you have is from others constantly telling you you're wrong for doing what you're doing. Why should you give one fuck about what they want? What do they mean to you anyways? You are being told you are wrong by everyone else, so eventually you believe it yourself.

Other people don't tell me I'm wrong. I tell me I'm wrong.

>This is stripping your individualism away from you and falling victim to the demands of others. You start convincing yourself the only way to be happy is to have the other people around you happy, when you should ONLY BE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR OWN HAPPINESS. You are told you should do this or that to be accepted by others, and you think only be being accepted, you will be happy. NO, FUCK THAT.

No, that's not it. You're not listening.

>What are you doing now? Do you think it's acceptable, or do you think that because that's what others have told you to think? You have convinced yourself that it is wrong because that's what everyone else has told you to believe. You are letting them control your thoughts, and have never even thought that what you're doing, is possibly, RIGHT? STOP HATING YOURSELF FOR WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BE, AND START LOVING WHO YOU ARE AS AN INDIVIDUAL.

There is nothing to love about me as an individual.

>Let's take a brief lesson in history. ... This is the message I'm trying to deleiver to you, stop hating yourself for what you're not, and start loving yourself for what you are.

How about I hate myself for what I'm not, and hate myself for what I am, too.

>>36477724
>You are a failure
Nope, never again shall I listen to this. As long as you do your best, there's nothing to be ashamed of, there's no failure.

You don't have to tell you "I'm more capable than this," for all you know you might not be, it's possibly something psychological stopping you from your desire. If you're stressing it this much, it's not laziness or the lack of will to do something, there is another factor not being taken in consideration.

Fucking Anti-Spirals.

You can be anything you want to be
Just turn yourself into anything you think that you could ever be
Be free with your tempo, be free, be free
Surrender your ego, be free, be free to yourself

Funny how everyone disagreeing with OP are going out of their way to defend themselves or make some sort of argument. You are only proving that you care too much what others think.

>>36477878
>You don't have to tell you "I'm more capable than this," for all you know you might not be, it's possibly something psychological stopping you from your desire. If you're stressing it this much, it's not laziness or the lack of will to do something, there is another factor not being taken in consideration.

Excuses, excuses. Blaming everything on others when it's all ultimately your own fault.

It IS laziness, it IS ineptitude.

>>36477939

OP's replying too. You're an idiot.

>>36477725
To be honest, I have no need for money at all if I'm living with my mother.

Just do what you believe to be right.

>>36477833
>Other people don't tell me I'm wrong. I tell me I'm wrong.
Why do you think you're wrong? Is it because they've shoved those thoughts in your head on how to "be an individual"? They don't have any better of an idea than you do. No one truly knows how to be "the good person," they just act on how others in society define it.

Is it only me that thinks that this thread has fallen and it is shit already?

>>36477939
YOU MAKE A BRILLIANT POINT ANONYMOUS

>>36477978
>point

>>36477998
>Why do you think you're wrong? Is it because they've shoved those thoughts in your head on how to "be an individual"?

No.

>They don't have any better of an idea than you do. No one truly knows how to be "the good person," they just act on how others in society define it.

Fascinating.

Your absoltuely delirious obsession with other people criticizing you all your life is clouding your judgement of other people's situations. Get a grip.

I love you /a/

You are my only bros. I was in the last thread for a couple hours but now I'ma go watch a movie then some animu.

Stay mental /a/

This is all futile. You all are perfectly aware of the meaninglessness of your own existences; it is why you are forever trapped in this void called 4chan. You spend hour after hour refreshing, replying, trolling, what have you, wasting your time because you fear. Fear taking risks, fear rejection, fear failure. And for good reason; it is because throughout your lives you have only known failure. It is foolish and illogical to believe success or happiness will come to those who are without worth; and downright arrogant to believe that insignificant speck of frustration you call willpower is enough to change the situation you have cornered yourselves in.

Sink into absolute despair and know your place, Spirals.

>>36478029
No, it's turned to shit. The last thread was great, what with anons just talking and sharing with each other, but this "you can do it if you put your mind to it!" thread has sort of killed the atmosphere the last thread created.
Such a shame, too.

>>36477878
>As long as you do your best, there's nothing to be ashamed of, there's no failure.

Word. Still, don't let "I did my best" become a crutch. It's one thing to quite literally put your all into doing something. It's very different, however, to go about things half-heartedly, and simply pat yourself on the back with a "I did my best" when you know in your heart-of-hearts you did not.

>>36477998
You tell'em Ushimoya to those damn elitistfags

Hope is irrational but without it we would accept our miserable lots in life, never progress forward, and are never truly happy.

That is Gurren Lagann's message you morons.

>>36478057
Suck it up and move forward. Is it so hard for you faggots to accept that?

>>36477942
It's not blaming others, it's not blaming yourself, it's blaming another possible 3rd party if you MUST word it like that.

>>36477992
>>36477997
Precisely

>>36478029
From despair yes, I've already engaged war with the pessimists lacking spiral power.

OP is just projecting his own problems to an obsessive level.

>>36478089

Agreed, this thread is a total piece of shit. Nobody cares about motivation, especially when it's something as completely irrelevant as "Other people tell you you're wrong!" when nothing like that ever came up in the previous thread to begin with.

Individualism is not the answer to peoples ill's but in most cases the cause, the quest of self actualisation, to be the person we want to be, is a long one if at all possible. You say ignore others but it is only through others that we can define our selves, ironically individualism cannot exist without others to be individual from.

TL;DR your sentiment is well meant but incredibly naive

>>36477201
I agree with the stuff about not giving a shit since I'm an SPD and not an SAD.

But you went on to ruin your own thread and disgrace the memory of the old thread (that isn't dead yet) with your INSPIRATION! crap.

>>36478166
>SUCK IT UP!!!
>MAN UP!!!
>JUST DO IT!!!
>DERP DERP DERP

I don't come here for this normalfag shit

>>36478087
Thank you for this post. The fact that this depresses me proves to me that I have not yet accepted defeat.

>>36478215
The world is full of contradictions.
That is fact.

>>36477441
>/a/non's self-loathing doesn't stem from the fact that they fall short of others' expectations, but rather they fall short of their own.

This. Your advice is stupid and misguided.

You should stop giving a shit about being judged, yeah, to a certain extent, but to stop giving a shit about getting a better life is silly.

>>36478251
>normalfag

Does that even mean anything right now? Holy shit you're retarded. I can't make this any simpler. Suck. It. Up.

>>36478192
Everyone's got 99 problems (but a bitch ain't one). Oh sure, I'd personally think it'd be nice to get a job, and am still trying so I don't have to inconvenience my mother, and am still doing my best to my full power to do so.

>>36478215
You're defining the ideal people want to achieve in life. For the most part IMO they're ridiculous and too far fetched (see Emiya Shirou for more details). You only need to aim for what you can be, not what you CAN'T be.

And of course you gain your individualism from seeing it in others, from their joys and their misery.

>>36478292
No, you're stupid and misguided. People's expectations of themselves stem from other people. If you lived under a rock your whole life, would you mind failure? Would you care about your weight? No you wouldn't.

>>36478184
>It's not blaming others, it's not blaming yourself, it's blaming another possible 3rd party if you MUST word it like that.

So it IS blaming others. Some invisible entity or magical thing that's the cause of all your problems! What a relief, it's something separate of me, it's not actually my fault!

No. That's bullshit. It's all you. it's always you, it's always been you, and it always will be you. You know your problems, you know how to fix them. But you're too scared to change it. You're too incompetent to succeed. You're too lazy to bother. You're too self-loathing to quit the self-punishment game called Your Life, willfully living in a rut in order to suffer. Because you don't love yourself.

And it's all your fault.

>>36478423
So does this mean my dream of working an average job and living in an average apartment while taking Japanese until I reach 35 and moving to Japan to revolutionize the anime industry is irrational? Should I drop it and commit suicide?

>>36478439

Idiotic. What you're implying is that the only means by which we can truly be happy is to disassociate ourselves from a society that judges us.

Sort of unrelated... but the life is meaningless argument/belief is one the most retarded one I've ever heard.

>>36478292
That's because they put their expectations higher than they are capable of. I fell victim to this throughout all of High School. I've always told myself there's no excuse for me not to do my homework, no excuse for not getting off the computer. That's when I realized the difference between SHOULD and COULD from a wise teacher of mine. You're being told from other that you SHOULD do this, do your homework, get off the computer, "do something productive." You should ask yourself, and make sure you're correct on it "They're telling me I should, but could I?" You may not be able to, so when you fail you only look down on yourself and fail to realize you couldn't in the first place. In every sense, if you're stressing over something you're going to get it done, or there's something else stopping your. You are your own worst enemy, after all.

Hate to tell you this, OP, but your little speech there, especially the last part, makes me think of a different Gainax hero.

>>36478538
>revolutionize the anime industry
Drop the 'revolutionize' part and you've got a very attainable goal.

>>36478615

It's only retarded because it doesn't end in "then we are responsible for giving our life meaning"

>>36478610
No I'm not. That doesn't mean you can't be happy without living under a rock, it means the people who aren't happy are usually depressed because, indirectly or not, of other people.

>>36478307

Nice repetition of worthless advice.

>>36478439

So not only do they not have to listen to other's opinions, but to never be influenced by them? OP constantly rails against other people actively voicing their criticizisms to them, but now it's about all of "society" subliminally instilling views of 'success' onto them? That's going a bit fucking far, because unless they're a goddamned hermit, everyone's going to have those ideals for themselves. I'm sorry, you can't force people to undergo a paradigm shift with "JUST DO IT, FAGGOTS!!!"

All OP is saying is "Love yourself!" when anon just simply doesn't. There's nothing he can do about that, and he's arrogant for thinking he can.