tl;dr

But yeah, probably, why not.

Something like that. I don't fear social interaction or authority figures but I tend to not give a shit about my friends other than couple of bros I've been friends with for all my life. I can form friendships and destroy them in hours, and I feel nothing at all. I've even cut ties to all my closest female friends because I started to see them all as sluts after I spent two years as a NEET, spiraling in depression.

I used to think everybody did, but then I realized it was just me.

yeah that's me alright, wish it wasnt

If you say so OP.

But I guess I do.

Yeah, that sounds like me alright.

Like I come in here to talk about that shit, reported for non animu.

>>36472193
Same here. Feels bad man.

>They freeze up when they meet new people, especially those who are authority figures.
Actually, I'm very friendly and co-operative when talking to the police.

Eh I'm more of a misanthrope myself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant_personality_disorder

People with AvPD are preoccupied with their own shortcomings and form relationships with others only if they believe they will not be rejected. Loss and rejection are so painful that these individuals will choose to be lonely rather than risk trying to connect with others.

* Hypersensitivity to criticism or rejection
* Self-imposed social isolation
* Extreme shyness or social anxiety in social situations, though feels a strong desire for close relationships[3]
* Avoids physical contact because it has been associated with an unpleasant or painful stimulus
* Avoids interpersonal relationships
* Feelings of inadequacy
* Severe low self-esteem
* Self-loathing
* Mistrust of others
* Emotional distancing related to intimacy
* Highly self-conscious
* Self-critical about their problems relating to others
* Problems in occupational functioning
* Lonely self-perception
* Feeling inferior to others
* In some more extreme cases-- Agoraphobia
* Utilizes fantasy as a form of escapism and to interrupt painful thoughts[4]
* Susceptibility to substance abuse as a way of escapism.

used to be a very shy child ;_;

still not as confident as I would like to be though.

I've looking this up quite a bit as I'm pretty sure I've got it.

yeah, but I'm not gonna bitch about it here

I'm pretty much confined to my home because of BPD, last time i went out for a prolonged period of time it ended with a rage attack and me sending 2 people with broken arms to the hospital

felt good man, but feels bad man.

>>36471914
This....
>>36472339
and this. Plus depression.

I had this real bad in HS. I would sweat buckets whenever someone talked to me and I would barely mutter more than a few words with a very forced smile. My teeth would be clenched all school day for fear of someone giving me a weird look or even trying to communicate with me. Now that I'm in college I've calmed down a whole lot. I'm still a little nervous/excited but at least I can respond normally to someone and hold a conversation. I'm just not good at actively seeking out social contact.

Everyone

Legitimately? probably a small percentage, one of which is myself.

Schizoid personality disorder here. You're all little bitches that desire social situations but fear them at the same time.

>>36472339

It's like a checklist for Shinji's personality

Yep, but in this day and age, who cares.

Used to be like that.

Then i stopped giving a shit about what people thought.

feelsgoodman

>>36472339
>I tick all of them apart from agoraphobia

>>36472466
Is it better than hating everyone?

>>36472466

you goddamn schizoids are always so arrogant, always acting like everyone should think the way you think

Incoming flood of people with "OMG YOU DONT HAVE A DISORDER YOU'RE JUST A PUSSY"

sufferer but getting treatment

it was torture

>>36472521
I think only ADD and ADHD are the only bullshit disorders.

>implying that you can quantify something intangible

>>36472339
Every one but substance abuse. Actually, if you consider video games a substance, in that I am severely addicted to them, then that's every one.

>>36472544
treatment?

>>36472422
same

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/32616029
a nice thread

>>36472544
So how do I go about getting treatment and what does it involve.

>>36472339

Every. Fucking. One. Except agoraphobia and substance abuse.

FFS

>>36472479
can we just have an eva thread now?

>>36471914
>Although people with social anxiety want very much to be social and fit in with everyone else
That's definitely not me, maybe it was at some point in my early childhood, but from highschool on I've simply been antisocial.

>>36472560
Video games are pretty much headed in the direction as substance.

Where I live, most if not all stores require ID for M-rated purchases.

>>36472565
cognitive behavioural therapy
anti-depressants
confidence tapes (might not be necessary, but I found them great for learning how to relax)

One year later: Feels quite good, man. I can go outside, talk to people and everything.

>>36472709
not sure if want...

I don't suffer from it, however I can remember when I was younger it being an issue. The way I cured it myself? I was really thrown into dealing with society without any real way of getting out of it. I still feel nervous to this day, but, meeting someone new or going to the store is child's play.

All in all.

JUST DO IT FAGGOT.

>>36472709
The relaxing method definitely helps. Finding a way to associate relaxation with a small motion or feeling can really knock the anxiety down a peg and make a world of difference.

I look away from the computer screen when it's booting up because I hate seeing my own reflection.

>>36472755

No.

>>36472730
It's quite difficult, so you need to want to change before you start. But once isolation and loneliness start to make you feel like you'll explode... you will want it bad. Those are great motivators. Good luck anon. You can do it.

this is me on the bus
I hate taking the bus

I stopped reading when
>want very much to be social and fit in
I really don't, I hate most people I meet.

Lolno, I don't give a shit about anything/anyone, though I do hate social gatherings.

I think most of 4chan falls into schizoids or avoidants
and then they battle to the death

I was having a sort of good day till I found this thread.

Fuck you, OP :(

True social phobia is pretty rare. If you can even leave your house at all, or have any sort of contact with other human beings, even on the internet, then I wouldn't classify you as a social phobic.

>>36472879
see >>36472466

I do now.
I can't even speak English properly. I've lived here in UK for 11 years now.

Yeah, that's me to an extent. I can talk to people I don't know too well, but only if they started talking to me. I can't start a conversation. I don't know why, I just... can't. I usually know what I WANT to say, but I can't force myself to actually say it.

tl;dr I'm a pussy.

schizoids always love to brag about their own misanthropism

i fucking love SAD, all the free xanax i want fuck year

Not me.

>>36472339
Most of those are dead on.

Feels bad, man.

>>36472944
>Implying I fear other people.
I've been out with people socially but I found it to be boring, why would I submit myself to boredom when I'm happier watching anime alone at home?

I'd really like to think that I suffer from this, but when people start talking to me, I can carry a pretty good conversation.

I guess I'm just really, really shy.

>>36472670
Fuck me too. I used to be very outgoing throughout all of my childhood and preteen years but once I was around 16 I became more reclusive, avoiding social interaction (especially hanging out with people) and just started being a fucking downer in general. I thought it was just teenage angst but it hasn't gone away

also a little book on different personality disorders:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tmmj5atzj2t

if your on here, you have this to some degree....how to get over it - just don't give a fuck about people anymore.

>>36473026
No, I meant that you've got rather schizoidal personality since you feel that way

Yep, that's me pretty much.

Plus some syndromes and other disorders.

avoidants and schizoids
self-loathers and misanthropists
ronery and misogyny

>>36472755
Psychology student here, this idea of throwing a person into an unavoidable situation is used for treatment of various phobias, like fear of heights or other situational phobias. Commonly referred to as "flooding", treatment like this is accomplished by throwing the phobic into a situation where they have to confront their phobia with absolutely no possibility of escape. If there is any escape possible, then the act of running away will be reinforced according to learning principles, and the fear will be increased rather than decreased.

OP - it depends upon how you define 'suffer'

Some of this is true for me, other parts not. I am very anxious when it comes to social situations but I don't go out of my way to avoid them. However I tend to have trouble doing new things in front of people I barely know.It's a perfect way to read me though: If I'm comfortable around you, I have no problem at all. If I am not comfortable around you then I tend to be very shy and nervous. It just sucks because most people I'm not comfortable around.

none because if you do you are the most easily trolled in this board....

>>36473090
>just don't give a fuck about people anymore.

This is good advice. Another gem is to "Just stop being so nervous."

I'm pretty sure I would if I could at this point. I can't stop overanalyzing situations when I'm with other people, and the act of actively trying to repress overanalyzing is just as bad.

<== THIS is how _I_ feel!

Ever since middle school. It was such a big part of my life I always thought of it in my mind as "that" and it was a constant presence in my life. I never knew it was an actual thing until I was already done with high school, deep in to reclusion, way too late to ever change my ways.

I suffer from something that is very similar. If I couldn't change my personality I would of become a shut in long ago.

I probably do, and I'm sure a lot of hikkikomori/neet folks on /a/ do too.

Probably most. I'm more obsessive-compulsive than anything else, though, and I think it was misdiagnosed as ADHD when I was little.

>>36473213

Same. I thought it was just...me. Like I was supposed to be this pathetic neurotic mess. And I guess I still am either way.

All of your suffering stems from your inability to find true joy in life, a weightless joy unchecked by the injuries of experience and failure. The closest you can come to experiencing any semblance of joy is by living vicariously through fiction; stories can make you laugh, cry and intrigued, where real life offers you nothing but a dreamy anxiety that pervades every facet of your being.

You have no guiding talent or passion in life that is profitable or even constructive, and likely feel or genuinely do not have the means with which to experiment, and you are routinely scorned by the world for being unconfident, unmotivated and unsociable when you try to change and when you don't.

You may have felt at capricious intervals a strong ambition for change that you have tried to pursue. You have probably even gone so far as to attempt to create a persona of unsubstantiated bravado for yourself in the past to garner the respect of your peers, and while you may have fooled strangers most of the time, it only works if you can keep them at a distance. And the mask soon slides off to reveal your darkest secrets and anxieties as soon as anyone becomes interested enough in you to say they care. And eventually you will tire of making everything you do and say a calculated effort to make people like you.

Upon moving to a new environment, you will feel the need and the opportunity to discover if anyone could really love you for who you are, but quickly discover your shortcomings when you realize that nobody does nor will because you cannot share with them any happiness of your own. And you will spiral further into despair as you feel that nothing will ever change. Your desire for everything to just end is exceeded only by your fear of death and stagnation. But you just don't know how long you will last.

That was me some years ago. Now I just don't care, I don't feel the need to be around people anymore.

>>36473090
It doesn't work like that, because it's nothing that can be controlled.
If you're nervous, you're not nervous because you choose to, but you simply are.

>>36473201
This guy gets it.
Most cognitive therapy involving changing a person's thought patterns will involve another person who will guide you through the steps with logic, until reaching the final conclusion, where the patient changes their unhealthy thoughts to healthy thoughts.
Example of a final conclusion for a depressed patient: I, (the patient) should not be depressed anymore because I am a worthwhile person, I have meaning in my life, and I do not need to be perfect and have unrealistic expectations to live.

>>36472339
This is me. To bad I can't get treatment.

>Extreme shyness or social anxiety in social situations, though feels a strong desire for close relationships

I didn't think it was written somewhere

I had social phobia. You won't believe the things that I did to be cured. I had to do exercises in the street with another patient, like conducting fake surveys involving sexual questions, or to leave a bar without paying (later I discovered that the psychologist payed the owner of the bar), or throwing random compliments out loud to some random woman in the street, or to yell to my companion across the street, etc.
One month doing that changed my mind.

Self-diagnosis is generally a bad idea, but yes, most likely.

Thank god college classes tend to be small(<15) or huge(>50):
<15 and I'm semi-alright for answering questions in class, but still face anxiety attacks up front.
>50 and I can avoid having to speak all-together.

>>36473322
This is however something that cannot be achieved alone without therapy, especially not for someone with a personality disorder.

>>36473343
Most social disorders involving avoidance or anxiety around others tend to be solved this way, usually in combination with cognitive therapy described previously.

Social Anxiety Disorder are "Axis I" disorders, while things like personality disorders like AvPD or SPD are Axis II's, which are afflictions that make you more susceptable to getting Axis I's.

It's sort of like AIDS.

I suffered with this for a long time. And you know what? Eventually I got sick and tired of being alone, sitting in my room watching TV on a friday night while everyone else in my class went out and did shit their friends. So I forced myself to be more social, hang out with people, and go to all the concerts, dances, volleyball games, etc. that happened for the rest of the year. And after doing that for just half a semester, I always have plans on a friday night, and I never feel any kind of social phobia.

Don't convince yourself that there's nothing you can do about your self-consciousness and social phobia. It's easily fixable. You're fucking awesome. All you need to do is prove it to yourself.

>>36472855
That comic makes it look pretty ridiculous, but fuck man, that's pretty much me except that I don't call myself worthless and get out at the wrong stop.

What the fuck happened to me... I was such an outgoing kid ;_;

>>36473396
I think thats what he was saying, in reference to the previous posts about doing it yourself.

>>36473343

holy shit that sounds terrifying

Yep pretty much, I have one or two people I still talk to on MSN but these people I don't really even like. I'm just bad at normal conversations in general. Sometimes I really want to fix it but I honestly cant picture my life without being a nervous neurotic mess 24/7

>>36473420
Basically this.
You can have an anxiety disorder by itself, such as a phobia, or you can have a mood or personality disorders such as AvPD that then lends itself to developing an anxiety disorder.

>>36473422
I found the best way to go out without the anxiety is to go with a group of girls, which made my high school group of friends almost entirely girls.
I can be quiet like I always do, and just listen to everything they say (and they say a lot).
Now that I look back, it's pretty nice to be the only guy at a party with all girls...

>>36473513


oh fuck

Yes I have it
I have trouble even buying shit at stores because of it
It's extremely annoying, I end up buying everything on the internet

>>36473343
I was actually trying to get therapy but this sounds horrible.

Yeah, definitely me. I always end up thinking "this person probably thinks I'm irritating/retarded", then getting into this loop of wondering whether or not that assumption is reasonable.

>>36473490
Something like when you're having a conversation you're self-conscious you're on a conversation, and keep thinking about how you deal with that without looking stupid?

>>36472466
Woah, that one fits me a lot better than the other ones posted, would be perfect if I was actually self-sufficient but I suppose I will be once I have to move out of mom's basement and get a job.

>>36472339
>form relationships with others only if they believe they will not be rejected

what, like I _want_ to be rejected? SHIT no! What kind of psycho-babble-BS is that anyway? I think I'll just start hitting on girls like some horny scumbag until one of them accepts my wonderful proposal, because I don't mind being rejected 99 out of 100 times. Heh, only an IDIOT would do that. Maybe that's why so many idiots get laid.

>>36473422

I did all that too, back in last year of high school. I was fed up with my life, so I fucking did everything. Learned how to make conversation, made lots of friends, went to parties, everything.

Then after graduation I still holed myself up in my room and cut off all my connections. It'd just happen the same way if I try again. I will always sabotage myself.

>>36473555
The point of therapy is to be helped to overcome these things.
Its not like you would be doing this entirely alone. You would likely be there with your therapist beside you.
Realistically though, a lot of it has to do with your own personal willpower. If you have enough to be willing to confront your issues, then you are already leaps and bounds ahead of the guy that isn't willing.

>>36473422
Tried that for a few weeks, I felt even worse than when being alone. Every fucking time.

>>36473568
>>36473566

Both of these, I wish I could stop thinking

>>36472157
Schizoid personality disorder

>>36473457
>>36473555

>>36472709 here
I didn't have to do any of that terrifying stuff. Walking around the park, then spending 30 minutes wandering around malls (hardest part!), then going to a hairdresser, then going to college and so on

>>36473660
Yeah it's the same with me. Sometimes my head goes on a infinite loop, looks like it's gonna explode. And on the end you don't find absolutely anything. About something you don't even know.

And to think I could be making money for myself, have a girlfriend who loves me and cares for me. I could contribute something great to humanity like science or art or literature. I certainly have the ambition and intellect to do such great things, but I have not the motivation or will to make them come to fruition.

But no, I have dug myself into a hole just like all of you, I sit here, no longer physical, forgetting that I am human, forgetting how to love and appreciate this intricate and beautiful world with all it's natural wonders.

>>36473422
>It's easily fixable
Chances are if it was that easily fixable for you that you didn't actually suffer from a personality disorder, because things like that can never be fixed. People can learn to live with them though, learn how to realise how and when they're affecting their perception, etc.

>>36473422
If it was that easy for you, then you obviously didn't have it to the extent that some people do

I just turned down an invite to go see Toy Story 3 with 10+ friends because of it.

Feels bad man.

It feels like I have every disorder in this thread. I'll probably never see therapy because that shit is fucking scary.
All those disorders and I can't speak anything more than a few syllables without mumbling the entire sentence and I'm self conscious about it and I was throughly humiliated in high school so I have no friends. Then I found anime and it's the only happiness I get in a day while I ninja through a CSC Major in university. My teacher of a class of 30 didn't know I was in the course and stopped me during my final exam until I proved it to her in the middle of 1000 students. Shit was so humiliating, I'll probably never speak in public again.

I only have trouble starting conversations with new people, generally I can talk to people and whatnot without any problems (except on the phone, fuck the phone and everything related to it. I feel so damn awkward every time).

>>36473791
Why the fuck would you even wanna see it?

I used to have it.. then i started to smoke weed.

>>36473724

It's so frustrating
You think you got a handle on the situation, but you really got nothing at all.

I'd "get out more" if I thought there was a place worth going to. I'd "hang out more" if I thought there were people worthy of my presence and worth sacrificing time for. I'd get myself a 3DGF if I thought there was someone out there sacrificing that much time and effort for. My conclusion is simple: The whole 'social' thing is overrated. Maybe that's why I hang out in /a/

>>36473843
>With friends.
You obviously don't have any to understand.

>>36473880
>I'd "hang out more" if I thought there were people worthy of my presence

Fascinating tale, dude

>>36473816
>>36473879
Holy fuck this is me

reading this always cheer me up

when i was younger my biggest fear was to let other people discover that i was shy.

now i dont care, because i have to live with it. when discussing with someone, i do not find problems to talk about how " social phobic" i am. and then i realise i suddenly gain some self steem

>>36473887
Friends are for weak bitches who need to rely on other people.

>>36473825

the phone is the worst invention ever made

also facebook

>>36473816

Fuck man

Yeah I haven't spoken to anyone in college for the past 4 years

>>36473925
And that's why man created the animu.

>>36473880
Either that or maybe you're lying to yourself.

Isn't it more likely that you avoiding others out of fear of rejection and humiliation?

I don't really have this problem exactly. However, every time I'm in a social situation I feel like there's this barrier between me and everyone else. They're communicating so naturally and I feel like I'm putting on this facade with fake smiles and forced laughs. It also feels like I'm the only one who's obviously faking it. Which fuels my awkwardness and makes it so everyone who talks to me feels awkward as well. Conversations then tend to go no where and I remain at a distance from these people forever.

I think to myself how I could do things differently all the time. Whenever I'm alone I think, how could I make encounters less awkward? I think about jokes or maybe an interesting fact I could share or whatever. Then when the time comes it's like my brain drops several IQ points and I don't think at all. I lose my overly analytical thinking and rapid fire thought process and turn into an idiot. Then I constantly think how I could have made those conversations better with all kinds of cool and witty banter. Then the cycle continues.

>>36473931
Yep.
I NEVER answer my cell. I only use it to call my mother.

>>36472855
My experience on a bus turned out differently, but still had the same outcome in the end.

I saw a cute girl on a bus being confessed to by an asspie. He confessed to everything you wouldn't want some girl you're interested in to hear, making up excuses and fumbling over every word, then finally asking her if she wants to go out sometime. I, and others, laughed heartily once he was off on the first stop and it was quiet for a time. I noticed a Kamina keychain so I decided to give it a go. I laughed out loud a bit trying to strike of conversation with her, as did our neighbor, Loki-- who is apparently a local gang member who sells drugs for spending money. The three of us talked about how embarrassing that must of been for a short time, ending up on other random topics before Loki had to depart. She then asked for our cell numbers. Later on, as I began to text her I found out the horrible truth: She draws Samurai 7 doujins, cosplays and is a /b/tard.

After asking her out to Chinese, I started having second thoughts...what would be the best way to break this off? Yeah. You guessed right: an argument about Twilight.

I was torn between my trollface and my conscience telling me what a dick I was, but I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole...

>>36473879
I laughed at that chart. I didn't know it was written somewhere either.

>>36473867
Fuck, weed has changed my life for the better, Shit gave me friends and made anime 3x better

>>36473931
>the phone is the worst invention ever made

heh, yeah, and I suppose I should've also said "and I don't know of anyone worth having me leave my cell phone on for, just to get interrupted when I'm in the middle of {whatever}" (implying a 3DGF would want to 'call to talk' at the most INconvenient times)

>>36474018

it's in that mediafire link I posted

>>36473771

Believe me, I had it as badly as half the people on this board. It IS fixable if you make a solid effort to be social, even if you don't enjoy it at first. Forcing yourself to be social might be more painful than just staying alone at first, but if you really push through it, it'll get better eventually.

I'm this poster
>>36473816
"The extreme tension created by this monitoring may account for the hesitant speech and taciturnity of many people with AvPD; they are so preoccupied with monitoring themselves and others that producing fluent speech is difficult."

Want to hear something cool, they add together to make sure you'll never speak any more than 3 syllables at a time.

- I'm a worthless, talentless, friendless loser with no life experience and no ambition, who bathes in self-pity and depression concerning these petty excuses for complaints, when they're all clearly entirely my fault, just like everything is.
- No job, not even looking for one, even though I definitely need one and tell myself this every day, but know I'm doing nothing but paying lipservice to myself, and know I'm too much of a pathetic coward to go through with anything.
- I'm self centered and selfish, constantly thinking of only myself, even when I try to pretend I'm not just so I can say to myself "Oh look how nice you are" like the immature pity-whore I am.
- I'm passive in everything I do and have ever done, and have no sense of adult independence or responsibility whatsoever.
- I'm a complete dissapointment to myself and everyone I know, and every time they see me I know they're thinking exactly that, but I'm enough of a coward that I hide away from them and everything else in life instead of standing up to it. It's only a matter of time they get fed up with me, I wouldn't blame them.
- I'm essentially a leeching parasitic freeloader who does absolutely nothing all day but take advantage of both my parent's kindness, and the silver-platter life that's been handed over to me with no real hardships or trauma whatsoever, and yet still can't do anything worth a damn for anyone.

So of course I get nervous around people. I don't want them to find all this out.

READ THIS for those with SAD or avoidance disorders.

Forcing yourself to hang out with people when you haven't changed your way of thinking about yourself won't do you any good.

You need to learn to accept yourself. This CAN be achieved with help from others. Therapists are great for this. It won't happen instantly, though so don't expect it to.

You need to learn to accept others too. You may have difficulty among others especially if you're more intelligent, but you can learn to get over that. You manage to deal with all the shit that /a/nons say after all.

You need to stop over thinking. If you have activities to do, and acquaintances to think about, you won't be thinking about that girl opposite you on the bus.

Remember, you shouldn't be alone. You shouldn't have to work so much to get over these things either, but you must. I don't want you to die sad and alone, so get out there and make some buddies.

>>36473931
>also facebook
This.

I hate social networking.

I even hate posting under a unique identity on internet forums, which is why I have avoided pretty much any website that required some kind of registration after discovering 4chan.

Why would I ever want someone to associate my internet postings with my real life identity which is pretty much impossible to change? Even in real life I try to make sure that nobody can associate my face with a name.

what's wrong with being a hermit? A hermet with internet connectivity. Not living in mom's basement, just alone. And liking it. A lot.

If people were able to make good façades for themselves... they'd be happier.

>>36474152
>So of course I get nervous around people. I don't want them to find all this out.
My own clone.

I've been even avoiding online contacts just because I'm afraid they might ask me "how I'm doing".

>>36474110
"Yes"
"No"
"No Thanks"
"Hi"
"Bye"
"How are you"
"Good"

holy shi-who cares how large your vocabulary is if you can get away with three syllables or less in daily life. That's like a godsend.

>>36472590

hot damn

>>36474110
>producing fluent speech is difficult
I've got a presentation next month. I feel a bit nervous already to think I'll be frozen in front of my class, with absolutely nothing about what I have to talk in my head, and people encouraging me to talk something eventually.

>>36474166
I've been seeing a shrink for 6 months, he hasn't even diagnosed me with this. They suck.

>>36474166
I don't know any therapists.. I don't even think we have any in this town or even the next town.

I can't even speak sentences, how am I supposed to talk to them.

>>36471914

I got over it by not giving a fuck.

>>36474212
>"So, what are you up to?"
>my face

I had to repeat Sophmore year because I was so scared going to school.

Shitsux.

>>36474219
The problem is I can't get away with it. And when I speak I hear 'what' 50 times a conversation, making me even more nervous and less coherent.

>>36474173
I managed to avoid a yearbook photo and id card for two years of hs and there was little-to-no info in my student database...
I had no idea it happened at all, but it turned out pretty cool that the only thing the school knew was my name and address and nothing else about me.

getting advice on the internet? Asking for _HELP_ on the internet? Isn't that kinda like jumping into a pit filled with punji sticks?

>>36474245

I had to do a presentation a few months ago. I went into it real psyched, alright, I feel good, this is a good preentation, I'm gonna do this!

halfway through, I had to lock my foot next to the table leg so it would stop shaking. The hand holding my paper was visibly shaking, like an inch up and down, and making a lot of flapping noise. My mouth was dry as sand. It was just fucking awful.

Continuing from this
>>36473343

Some other rules were:
1) You couldn't talk about your problems. Not even with your therapist or your companion. You came there with social phobia, next step was treatment. Action.
2) It was important not to know what the next exercises were. Sorry for scaring you. It was terrible the first days but then it went better.
3) I had to spend most time outside.

Also, not a rule, but I had to move to another city, where my therapist was. It's better to do these exercises in a place where nobody knows you (less anxiety).
My brother arranged the details. I had to share the house with another guy and pretend I was a student.
So, there was no place to escape. I had to talk to that guy in the house, pretending to be normal. Also if I didn't want to starve I had to go outside and do shopping.
My life during that month was: wake up, do social things, sleep.
After that month, the period of maintenance started. I got a job where I had to talk to strangers all the time.
Now I have to confront every social situation that I encounter.

>>36473931
I get really nervous at the thought of checking my facebook, checked it today (haven't used it since I made the damn profile) and stopped after about 5 minutes and started to clean instead. I'd rather scrub a goddamn toilet then accept friend requests from facebook... such a loser

>>36474166
>Therapists are great for this.
The problem is that taking up therapy alone is quite a step. Making an appointment. Telling a therapist about the problems, etc.

>>36474173
I don't hate social networks or anything. I've got an account on one actually, but it doesn't have anything. Only my name, and I have it for academic purposes.

One thing I don't like is pictures of myself. "Hell so that's me? This is not me."

>>36474246
Maybe you need to talk to him some more. Tell him all your problems, and ask him about CBT.

>>36474247
You can communicate with them on paper if you can't talk. If you have a parent ask them to arrange an appointment for you. If not, get an email address from your local hospital and ask them about getting a psychiatrist (who should then set you up for getting CBT).

>>36474351
Where else can I get help other than an anonymous board where typing is the main form of communication. The funny part is I'm still sweating.

>>36474326
"blah blah blah blah"
>What?
"...blah blah"
>What?
"....never mind...."

>>36474351
This isn't /b/

A lot of people on /a/ actually have this and can talk honestly about it.

>Answer the phone
>Can't understand a word they say

>>36474351

>punji

I snickered reading this. Then I looked it up. The more I know!

yep thats me, the only way i deal with social situations is by getting absolutely wasted

>>36474368
Same thing happened to me during a simple speech in front of a small class.

>>36474368

It's like your own body betrays you, because you're just that weak.

>>36474373
Are you me?

>>36474391
Explaining your problems is quite hard. When I try to do that it doesn't sound coherent at all, but the whole idea is floating on my head.

>>36471914
I'm not anxious in social situations, I just don't like 90% of the people I meet. Hence I avoid meeting more people.

Sage for greentextwall

I should probably just kill myself now.

>>36474246

Actually, some psychiatrists just don't like making patients think they have a label, and stuff like that.

>Have a panic attack
>Triggered by nothing whatsoever

Yep.

Feels bad man.

>>36474024
I can say this also. It's helped me relax and loosen up around people, especially those I don't know. When I'm high, I can talk to anyone about anything and be myself. When I'm not...well...conversations tend to be short.

>>36474551
Holy fuck that's me!

I used to have Social Anxiety, I would get nervous and feel like I had to piss my pants in public, which would only further the anxiety. But than I woke up and told myself I didn't want to live under the weight of such a fear. Now I am normal.

P.S. I was going to ''inb4'', but I realize that Im now a narcissistic asshole who fucks bitches so I don't care if you don't believe me. In fact I'm not going to even check for responses.

tootle-loo faggots, hopefully you do what I did.

>>36474400
>One thing I don't like is pictures of myself. "Hell so that's me? This is not me."
I'm exactly like that, when I look on the pictures of myself I end up self-loathing about how ugly I am.

Strangely, I think I'm rather good-looking and it's hard for me not to stare at myself in the mirror. I just have problems with photos.

>>36474373
I just remembered I have a facebook and logged in.
>9 Friend Requests.
>1 Faggy Game Request.
>0 Messages.
>Ctrl+W

>>36474373

Oh fuck
I'm afraid of doing things with my old friends because I'm afraid they'll go and check my empty, lifeless facebook account afterwards
I tried to fill it up and stuff but it's just too embarassing

>Get cellphone for Christmas
>Nobody to call
>Sell it 3 months later

>>36474572
the one in the picture is the real you

it's just like hearing your voice on a recording

>>36474391
I know anon. It's hard, and it's terrifying. But it's something you want right? You want help, you want to get out of sitting at home refreshing /a/ all day. You want company. If you have someone else who can set the appointment up for you, it would be great. If you can't use the phone, send an email. Hospital staff may be shitty, and shrinks may be annoying, but your therapist should be very helpful. And you CAN get out of this lifestyle.

>>36474408
Actually I forgot a step. I had to see a doctor first, who then referred me to a psychiatrist, who then set me up for weekly CBT sessions.

>>36474531
You sage because you don't want to bump a thread. Are you saying you chose not to bump this thread even though you had something to say but saged instead because the OP quoted something using greentext even though that's on of the proper reasons to use greentext?

Or are you just a retard who thinks sage is some sort of anti-bump.

>anon
>facebook

pick one

OP - if I were to say that I treat 'rejection' as a motivation to get revenge, what kind of "disorder" would THAT be... (besides 'yandere')

just brezzed over the posts. 100% of /a/ has this.
Such Misfortune

>>36474673
nope, /a/ is made of AvPDs and SPDs.
Hence both misogyny and roneriness

>>36474627
I've thought about going to a therapist once. Then I've completely given up about this idea. Maybe all this mental disorder thing is something of my own mind. I don't have anything, even if most stuff I read really coincides with the way I am. Self-diagnosis is bad.

Actually, I could fix this up all by myself. But it is that thing, you try to find an answer of something you don't even know what it is, and then your head explodes into colorful candies.

I don't actually want to be a big socialite. I like being alone. Just...not as alone as I am.

Maybe a few good friends here and there that don't want to hit the clubs every night...but that would require effort and skill to find those friends and maintain those friendships, neither of which I can do, because I'm a worthless piece of shit that nobody would want anything to do with.

The irony is no one will seek help because seeking help is fucking scary.
It's cool, I've resigned to being alone and watching anime for the rest of my life.

>>36474665
That's just resentment.

>>36474811
Except other /a/nons.

We should setup some sort of /a/ website to meet other bros and hang out.

/dream

>>36474572
Hey, you're me.

I can't do anything.

>>36474828
I think I'll be happier that way.
Which is why I have a Waifu.

This whole thread is full of victims to themselves.

>>36474848
You mean like /a/?

>>36474572
>Strangely, I think I'm rather good-looking and it's hard for me not to stare at myself in the mirror. I just have problems with photos.

Lol that is so me.

I stare at myself in the mirror all the time thinking how gorgeous I am. I don't come out so well in photos though.

>>36471914
I do. It's no fun.

>>36474848
Except no one would hang out because we're afraid of each other.

>>36472339
Feels not so good man.
All except agoraphobia and doing drugs.

Im not as anxious in social situations as I used to be, I started getting better when I got a job.
Everything else is still there though, and I think its getting worse.

I am 26 years old. I am 6'2 and 160lbs. I have no job. I live at home with my parents. I dropped out of University. I have never had a girlfriend. I cannot approach girls. I am a virgin. I feel intimidated and inferior to women. I look at better looking men and feel absolute hatred towards them because of my terrible jealousy. I spend 8 hours a day on 4chan. I am depressed. I have constant anxiety. I wake up in the night with my heart pounding. I can't cope in social situations. I blush at the drop of a hat. I find it almost impossible to make conversation with people. I crumble under even the slightest amount of scrutiny. I have bad posture. I speak too fast in a monotone voice and people struggle to understand me. I have acne. I am obsessed with my appearance. I spend hours in front of the mirror picking fault with the most minor of imperfections.

I am paranoid people are judging me, making fun of me and criticizing me. I talk to myself constantly. I live in a dreamworld and fantasize all the time. I look to blame others for my problems even though I know deep down it is all my fault. I am still clinging to childhood even though it is long, long gone. I live in constant regret that I have underachieved in my life. I am bitter towards others who have succeeded. I feel that I am not in control of my own mind. I cannot stay focused or motivated on anything for long enough to succeed. I have chronic procrastination. I have a negative voice in my head that literally feels like another person dictating what a freak I am. All I have is blind hope that one day I'll turn things around. I have tried in vain many times to understand why I turned out like this but to no avail. I am what I am and I hate it. I wish I was free.

>>36474966
Not the one who posted that but, I don't think it's like that. That's pretty much a common thing.

>>36474804
>mental disorder
>something of my own mind
That's very likely, Anon.

Healthy people wouldn't even think about getting therapy, so you probably need it.

>>36474597
I don't even have a Facebook because I'm afraid of either my old friends finding out that I've gone nowhere in life or the alternative being that they've forgotten me and I have no friends anymore.

>>36474848
>meet
It seems you haven't read this thread. Only the SPD part of us would come, and all of them would secretly hate each other. It's really bad idea.

>>36474966
lol "gorgeous"

That's a pretty great word

>>36474943
No, I mean a site designed expressly for the purpose of meeting up with other bros IRL.

Sort of like /a/ - dating without the gay part.

Of course seeing this is /a/, that would be OK as well

>>36475011

You fucking said it, man
what a horrible site facebook is

>>36474989
Hello clone. Let's an hero together?

I suffer from this

I always get nervous when going to new places, or somewhere where I don't know anyone. I also hated going back to school because I knew that I would be a social invert all year. The funny thing is, whenever I'm talking to my online friends in Skype or on an MMO that I've never met IRL, I'm very outgoing.

I just hate people that aren't my friends and making small talk about things I don't care about.

>>36475022
I'd be game for this. It'd be nice to talk with someone else about anime for a change. I'm always hiding my powerlevel here.

I lie to my online friends and tell them I'm a super cool social outgoing guy, that thinks anime and stuff is uncool.

I lie. A lot.

Not quite,

I'm more the person who just doesn't care about much, and stays in the corner listening to music while thinking about stuff...

Also don't have 'emotion' that often, except when my friends are dependant on me, other than that I'm pretty much just cruising through life

So yeah, anyone else in the same boat?

>>36475022
I think I'm posting all this stuff because no one who I know would know I'm posting this.

Finding non-retarded people that think like you is awesome. Even if all this may be trolls.

I involuntarily expend all the energy I have just to minimize the expression of any sort of strong identity. Everything about the way I act in public is subconsciously designed to make people feel not much about me one way or the other. I don't want to say or do the slightest little thing that would make anyone, anywhere feel uncomfortable, or disagree, or clash with me whatsoever. Surprisingly, I think I'm also pretty averse to the idea of anyone deciding that they like me too much, so I also try not to be too interesting, clever, or funny. I present a totally false image of myself as someone who is bland, proper, formal, boring, humorless (except to laugh at others' jokes), and easy-going to a fault. I suppress my real character, my real sense of humor, my real cynicism, my passions, my sensitivities, and my vulnerabilities.

>>36474989
I can relate to you on a lot of levels.

And I think you have BDD, body dysmorphic disorder, it's when you obsess over your appearance more than normal people. Which I also have.

People can never understand me either

>>36475150

Yes, read the thread.

>>36475158
I don't think any of us are trolls actually.

>>36475226
Feels bad man.

>>36474804
If you find you have difficulty going outside, and difficulty talking to people, then you are avoiding those things because they cause anxiety and fear.
Depending on the severity, simply getting away from the internet and interacting with other humans may help you get over it.
If that sounds impossible to you, then you should get some help.

If you have a load of the symptoms in this thread, I do think you should see one. I just, knowing what it's like, I hate to think of anyone feeling that way. Like Satou from NHK.

>>36473080
Same here ;_;

>>36475229
This might be the one thread where trolls come clean about why they spend all their time trolling.

>>36475158
>Finding non-retarded people that think like you is awesome.
That's pretty much my exact feelings on it, too. Somehow I doubt there are many trolls in here, though.

>>36474989
>>36474989
>>36474989
Holy. Fucking. Shit.

Are you my long lost twin?

That is basically me except I'm 27 5'10" 145 lbs.

And the part where you feel girls are inferior to you. No bitch is superior to me, a man.

>>36475136
You and me both, bro.
I actually have an older friend from an extended family who I had recently moved by. Turned out he was a was a twenty-something year old m[a/n who had much in common with me, though I was only 18. We used to talk about anime, metal and anything.
It was awesome having a bro that was into the same things I'm into. Literally none of my friends from high school was a true bro (could be the fact that they were 99% girls)

>>36475011
You should be glad if they have forgotten about you.

I have friends from school who call me a few times per year in order to go out and do things, invite me to parties, celebrate birthdays and things like that.

The problem is that I'm a NEET/Hikki but don't want them to know about it, so I'm permanently in fear that they could drop by or invite me to something horrible where I have to pretend to be doing well with my studies, hear about their lives, avoid questions about my own life, pretend to be social, ... - it's not that I disliked them, I really don't, but it's just too much for me handle.

>>36475283
I do see one. He's stupid. I'm going to stop seeing him because I'm afraid of interaction with him.

I have realized that in my entire life, I have never fully opened up to anyone. My deepest secrets/thoughts have never been told to anyone, I don't EVER show vulnerability. Except on 4chan.

All I can do to hide it is to fake fake fake normalcy in public until I run out of energy to keep up the facade and become overtly anxious and depressed. I NEED my "me time" and hours of it per day, which takes up an enourmous amount of my life, which I constantly feel humiliated about.

I can't even so much as talk to other people if they don't initiate the conversation first. At my apartment, I will attempt to avoid running into others. If I'm about to leave out of the front door, but I hear someone coming up front the ground floor or down from the 3rd floor, I'll quickly go back inside. If I'm already a good ways out of my front door and see or hear someone, I'll try to take an alternate route front not to run into them.

>>36471913

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>>36475160
Im kinda like this, I try really hard not to make anybody unhappy (towards me at least)

But I've developed a tendency to be harsh towards people who I think aren't as smart as me. If im irritated enough I'll tell them that they're stupid outright.

>>36475315

same here, it's a terrible experience

>>36475315

My friends used to literally show up at my front door out of nowhere to take me out. It'd happen every so often so I'd live in perpetual fear. Then eventually in a state of drunkenness I came clean just about who I really was and how I had no ambitions and purposely avoided all of them because it was too hard to be around people and go out and I never saw or heard from them again.

It's a big load off my shoulders but also depressing.

Anyone near Puyallup, WA want to meet up?
Just moved to the area, so I know literally no one here (not that mattered much)

>>36475470
My friends just eventually forgot about me.

>>36475283
>>36473080
It's like that. I used to be pretty much 'ok'. I didn't overthink about these personal issues, didn't regret anything I did, that includes talking or these minor things. I didn't even think about these stuff. I don't have fear to talk with people. Actually, when they come talk to me, I talk without fear or anything. Later on I think about everything I said or I did. Many times I regret, something like "I shouldn't have said that. I looked like a retarded/anything/anything" and then my mind goes like a rocket.

It's not really explainable, but it's more "in" then "out". I think that, at least.

>>36475515
NC here.

>>36474842
yeah, resentment. cool.

>>36474673
> 100% of /a/ has this

(obvious satirical humor aside)

OP - do you assume people who hang out in /a/ qualify for your list of symptoms simply by hanging out in /a/, or are you simply targeting /a/ because there _may_ be a lot of people who fit your list of symptoms hanging out here? In any case, amateur psychoanalysis is likely to do more damage than anything else. But of course, this is the intarweb. Collateral damage is expected.

I'm 24 and still feel like a child around everyone my own age. Everybody's better than me in more ways than I can possibly imagine. Social situations, work situations, academics, really anything.
But if I stay in my room I won't have to make such an embarassment and idiot of myself.
I guess worrying about that is a bit prideful and arrogant but I'm too weak to change that about myself

>>36474989
It's possible to get rid of that negative voice, and to stop obsessing over your appearance. I hope that one day, things will be better for you. It is achievable, but it is a long and slow climb.

>238 posts and 25 images

How did I not see this coming...

>>36475523
>Later on I think about everything I said or I did. Many times I regret, something like "I shouldn't have said that. I looked like a retarded/anything/anything" and then my mind goes like a rocket.

This so much. On the rare, rare times I think I may have enjoyed myself with other people, when I get alone again, I go over it in my mind over and over and over and over, and I realize all the mistakes I made that made me look stupid, and they burn at me like a hot iron.

>>36475610
inb4 400 posts and 120 images omitted.

>>36475470
My friends still do that every now and then, despite knowing I'm a worthless shut-in with no money. They show up at my door and drag me outside, and I'm such a weak-willed person that I can't very well say no to them.

>>36475523
>>36475634
This.

I fucking hate this.

>>36475565

Despite being 22, I'm still very much mentally a 14 year old boy and even look and sound like one. I feel like if I at least was physically a man, it'd be a little easier, but I'm just a kid, my life is a nightmare.

>>36475565
My own clone.

I'm 26 though.

>Realize I have problems with self esteem
>Try and fix them. Fail.
>Feel worse about self for failing.

Repeat endlessly until death

Oh god this explains me perfectly. ;_;

>>36475683
Same for me.

I'm short and underweight. Can't even grow a beard, and my voice is relatively high pitched.

>>36475683
>>36475741
Have you considered becoming Traps?

I'm sure most of /a/ would love you. You would never be alone again.

Thanks to this thread I found out that I perfectly fit the description of SPD. I wonder If I can use this to leech money from the American Govt until I get a job?

I wanted to write something but I don't know how to put it into words very well. Anyway, I feel your pain guys, for I am also in a similar situation.

>>36472339
WHY ;_;

>>36475769
I don't think I'd be a very good trap.

>>36475523
Usually when I take evening bath I think about my whole day, about what I did right and wrong, and I'm always hating myself for playing social situations wrong, because I could say something different and shit.

I think it's because I can't divert my attention from my action with /a/ or anime at that time.

>>36475741
>>36475683
>>36475565
>I'm short and underweight. Can't even grow a beard, and my voice is relatively high pitched.

Fuck, you're me

I barely feel like an adult. I think about all the things my former friends are doing with their lives, or the thins my parents did at my age, and just wonder what the fuck is wrong with me.

I mean, I guess I could "do it" (if I knew what "it" was), but it's like I'm supremely content with my laziness even with all the suffering it gives me. Why do I punish myself like this?

>>36475769
...oh wow. lol'd.
This may well be the only solution for some.
I can grow, and am in the midst of growing, a beard though...

as an oldfag (25) who previously had crippling social anxiety i can give you a few tips /a/.

- moving doesn't work. wherever you go, there you are
- if you're totally walled off from the world, try one social thing a week that you would normally deem crazy: sports event, dance, striking up a conversation with a stranger
- learn to laugh at yourself. everybody flops hard sometimes. normalfags are more experienced at communication and therefore flop less.
- realize that nobody gives a fuck about you. good or bad, the worst thing that can happen is somebody makes an offhanded comment to you and then forgets about you forever.

i didn't even touch a girl or fuck until i was 19 and even then i only succeeded because it's college and it's easymodo. now i get along fine with most people and the women and bros flow like water. GL /a/non

To help those of you who over think things:

Nobody is perfect, stop comparing yourself to others and thinking "that guy is dumber than me" or "that guy is better looking than me". Forget comparisons.

The world isn't like high school. Outside of high school people suddenly all have their own worries and problems to think about. They won't be analysing everything you do or say or how you look. You know this.

Tell yourself you're being silly, and start doing something else rather than getting stuck in that spiral over analysing conversations.

Relax.

Relaxation is very important. Find things that help you relax, and prioritise them.

>>36475523
I usually think too hard about shit like that too. Especially situations where you KNEW you were being awkward/socially retarded but you couldn't stop yourself or fix whatever it was you said at the time like a normal fucking person so you relive that moment over and over, feeling more and more embarrassment until finally you completely hate yourself for it.

>>36475812

I do that when I try and go to sleep. I generally just sit awake in bed for a good 6-7 hours, going over all the mistakes and regrets of my worthless life.

It's why I stay up on 4chan instead. Last night I stayed up till 1pm.

Where do you go to get diagnosed about something like this? I probably have it.

>>36475801

dude don't profit off it

I already feel guilty like a piece of shit for relating to avpd as much as I do, because I'm remembering all the time fucking internet aspies brag about their disorders.

I simply just hate people and my family. I could talk to you but I wouldn't want to because trying to hold up a conversation with stranger would be hard if you don't share something in common. I really find it weird that I value my friends more than my family.

I practice starting conversations with strangers on Omegle, I don't get many adults though.

>>36475812
>I'm always hating myself for playing social situations wrong
This.

I have countless memories reaching back to elementary school which I can recall and feel incredibly embarrassed about.

Most of them aren't even important, and the people who were involved most likely (all sane reasoning tells me they don't but by head doesn't want to accept that) don't even remember them, but to me they are the epitome of embarrassment.

>>36475907
Reading this reminded me about something I saw on reddit last week or so.

brb. looking for it.

>>36475883
any psychologist will do, but probably he'll send you to psychiatrist for further examination.

Basically psychologists are uneducated fucks, psychiatrists are the ones with real knowledge and authority. If you know one, you can skip psychologist.

>>36475883
The diagnosis is whether you're a regular /ɐ/non or not.

>>36475943
Whats the easiest way to find one of these people? How much do they cost?

>>36475868
That's pretty much exactly what I do. Half of the time I can't fall asleep for hours because I'm going over the previous day/week in my head, thinking about what I could have done and how much I fucked up. Then I come on /a/, find threads like these, and feel both better and worse about myself at the same time.
Feels fucking weird, man.

>>36475922
I've got family problems if that makes you better. And it's not problems like "we are unemployed", "we don't have time to do this and that", "my parents are divorced".

>>36475941
Found it.

Set this as your background boys.

>>36475868
This is the reason why I mostly stay up until morning hours, sometimes not sleeping at all. If I'm too tired to think about anything I can avoid those thoughts.

I dropped all school friends by not going to school reunions after we finished. Couldn't connect with anyone in university and going there feels like a huge hassle everyday.
I lie a lot to my relatives about having friends, a social life in general, being almost about to finish uni, finding a girlfriend etc. I don't really care about most of them as I believe they also just ask to get that "holier than thou" feeling. Maybe I'm wrong, don't really know.
I feel really bad about my parents though, they really care and expect something out of me and I can see I'm not going anywhere, and that wrecks me.
Pic...unrelated, wish I could stop giving a fuck but I can't.

people pretending they are asspies or actually autistic is the reason i left SA forever. it maintains its chic status to this day because people associate it with "higher intelligence" despite being a total faggot.

people who WANT to be diagnosed with social anxiety disorder, depression (which is no longer chic), or schizoid/avoidant PD do so because they feel like shit and are crying for help. that i can understand and empathize with.

>>36475883
>>36475943

You may need to get a referral from a doctor first. Depends where you live I guess.

>>36476012
...Yeah.

I love these threads if only because they remind me that many other people share my problems.

Also makes me realise many people have it worse than me, and I should be grateful that I have less of a hill to climb to get out of this rut.

>>36475837
>Nobody is perfect, stop comparing yourself to others and thinking "that guy is dumber than me" or "that guy is better looking than me". Forget comparisons.
But it's true

>The world isn't like high school. Outside of high school people suddenly all have their own worries and problems to think about. They won't be analysing everything you do or say or how you look. You know this.
I know this and remind myself every day, and feel like shit about it because I know what a self-centered selfish person I'm being. Then I realize that the act of thinking that is doing the same thing, and then I go into the overanalyzation spiral again

>Tell yourself you're being silly, and start doing something else rather than getting stuck in that spiral over analysing conversations.
I can't, because I suck

>Relax. Relaxation is very important. Find things that help you relax, and prioritise them.
If I could relax, I would. I don't do it out of choice.

>>36475984
I guess that's good to hear, also I just realized my friends also have issues with their family excluding my spanish female friend.

>>36475943

Psychiatrists prescribe medication that helps you cover up your symptoms, but doesn't actually solve the problem.

Psychiatrists are trained in medicine/pharmaceuticals; all they can do is diagnose and give you happy pills. Psychologists are actually trained in counseling and therapy, which can help you solve your problems permanently without needing expensive ass medication for the rest of your life.

All you bros should be familiar with this dilemma.
I've never had a girlfriend and recently for the first time, my mother asked if I was gay.
Should I start lying to them that I have a girlfriend (I'll describe my waifu) or should I just let them continue to be disappoint?

>>36476044
Sorry, I prefer this as my wallpaper.

>>36476026
>I feel really bad about my parents though, they really care and expect something out of me and I can see I'm not going anywhere, and that wrecks me.

Fuck, this. My mom just made me a delicious dinner. I haven't gone out of the house in months. Fuck me to death.

I never deserved such kind parents

>>36476166

OH GOD
My mother was seriously asking me about this, so fucking embarassing.
I just said "just not looking for one right now". I don't have a job or any money or a car after all

>>36476166
I can safely say I don't think I will ever have this problem. I have also never had a long term girlfriend, and my parents just attribute my being constantly alone to me being a failure of a fucktard of a person. They are right about it too.

>>36476185
really? my mom bitches when I stay in the house and bitches when I'm outside of the house.

What the fuck went wrong with us /a/?

What

The

Fuck

>>36476166
Just let them think what they want, man. If you describe your waifu and pretend she's your girlfriend, they'll eventually want to meet her. If you don't go out often, then they'll wonder where the hell you get the time to meet up with her.
If they keep pestering you about it, just tell them that you're not interested in getting a girlfriend. If they ask if you're gay, tell them you're not interested in getting a boyfriend, either.
Just let them be disappoint. There's not really any other way around it, from my experience.

>>36476273

exactly. I never deserved such kind parents

>>36475976
Tell to your physician that you need to go to the psychologist. He should know at least one or two of them.

And concerning money, most of medical insurances don't cover such specialists, so you have to prepare some money. Generally, psychiatrists are more expensive than psychologists, and if psychologist will send you to one, then depending on your country/insurance you can expect at least partial refund.

Oh, and be ready that if they'll assume that your problems need further examination, it's possible that they'll want you to go for the checkup to psychiatric hospital, possibly with staying there for a few days. Don't think that they assumed you're crazy, but it's easier to check your problems in a closed environment.

I've been taking steps to get over this, I go out and do simple things like shopping just to interact with people, I exercised at home when bored to get toned to a normal level, I try to not second guess myself too much and just accept invitations from people more often.
I feel like the only things needed to turn my life around are getting a job (and then a girl) but I couldn't have picked a worse time to try it, and confessing to old friends how much I have fucked up my adult life.

the best way you can show your appreciation to your parents is by living up to your maximum capabilities. unlike what the faggot media tells you everyone has a maximum potential for certain situations.

some people just aren't able to sit through 2 hour lectures at a university or socialize effectively in big groups for fuckprojects. that is ok.

the only way you can truly fail your parents is if you stop trying altogether and if you refuse to make attempts at bettering yourself.

>>36476166
My mother first asked me that when I was 14, because I had no friends and all the other kids my age were saying I was. Felt awkward man.

She gave me the "it's ok if you are, I love you just the same" speech too.

>>36476282

Us. We're our problem.

Following the lines of casuality, it's all our fault. And if not, then we still have the power and knowledge to fix it. But we can't, because we're too scared.

>>36476378

she said the same thing
but I know for a fact she hates the gays
feels bad man

>>36476282
I ask myself the same question everyday

inevitable bump limit

sage

>>36476282

I blame society!

>>36476293
I used to just tell them I was too busy at university which is a lie, I was fucking around with you guys. The lie is getting heavy to hold now and every time I tell it I cry in bed afterwards.

this has been the only worthwhile thread for the past few days, thank you for existing so I could hide out in it

>>36476282
i bottle my feelings

To all /a/nons here, what you guys really need, is one big, huge hug.

bampu

I guess this thread is done already.. How many of you were refreshing it every 5 seconds?

>>36476706
Guilty.

This thread deserves a second run but I guess everyone's done venting their feelings for now.

>>36476091
It may be true, but people aren't just one thing. Who you are isn't solely based on your intelligence or appearance. You're comparing certain aspects of people with certain aspects of others. Try taking them a whole package, and yourself as a whole package. You have good aspects and bad aspects.

When you find yourself going into one of those spirals, just think "to hell with this!" and go do some push ups, or go for a walk, do something ACTIVE. You know those spirals will just go downwards, and you won't get anywhere, so do your best to nip them in the bud.

You don't suck. You've gotten into an unhealthy way of thinking and living. You don't like. You are going to change it. You are.

Relaxing is hard. One thing about anti-depressants is that they don't make you happy (in my experience at least). What they can do is reduce your anxiety levels. You'll be able to breathe easier. Practise breathing. If you find your heart is racing and it's difficult to breathe, slow down and pay attention to nothing BUT your breathing and gradually slow it down. Candles are good for relaxing. Getting away from the computer too will help.

I have to go now, gotta be careful with my own sleeping pattern. If things still go tough, try out those Paul McKenna CDs. Should be on amazon/ebay etc. I found them to be great for relaxing, as mentioned earlier. Good luck anon.

>>36476706

I was
And I was so nervous every time I made a post or refreshed, worrying if I was going to be met by a 404.

>>36476706
Me.

>>36472339
shit sucks,

I willfully enter those spirals in order to punish myself for my failure of being weak enough to want to punish myself for entering those spirals and...
yeah.

>>36476706
automatic 4chan updater is truly a glorious thing

Went on a gay date once because all my female friends just thought it was 'right' for me to be gay. (I'm not gay and I've told them countless times I'm not, so I took the easy way out) Even if you go out with one of the most popular guys in your school, and you're totally bros when it comes to gaems, it can get weird real fast. I felt so damn awkward the whole time because I knew I was lying to myself and him. You just don't lie to bros, man. We ended up just not talking very very shortly after I graduated. I did not keep any ties whatsoever with my friends from high school because they weren't into the same things I am (vidya, programming, anime & mangas)

>>36476740
>You don't suck.
I'm not sure about that. People around me does way better than me on academics, games etc. For example, today I got my physics exam result. I got a 7,2/10; most people got a 8 or 9. I studied like a jerk, and I doubt all these people would study that much.

I try to see these good and bad things. I'm pretty impartial actually. Impartial to the point I'm always the one to blame, that doesn't have to be noticed by anyone. Things would be better like this. But unfortunately, the way I act around people is kind of different; then comes the mindfuck etc etc.

this reminds me of this thread
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/36039278
except more depressing...

You know, you guys probably think that most people look down on you because of the way you are, even if you aren't that way by choice. Maybe you think that they think of you as worthless or pathetic, and maybe you think the same about yourselves.
And I'll bet a lot of you probably think that there's nobody out there that really cares about you. But you'd be wrong if you thought that. Because you know, you guys are the closer to a family to me than my actual family are. Don't make the mistake of thinking there's nobody out there who cares about you. Because I'm out here. And I care about you guys, each and every one of you. I want to help you guys feel better about yourselves, even if it's only a little bit. Even if everybody in society gives up on you, even if all your friends were to abandon you, even if your family disowns you, I just want you to know that there's one person left who cares. A person who cares more about you than anybody else ever will. I'll always be there for you guys, whenever you need me. And you know, the fact that you've read this far shows that you care too, at least a little bit. And that's good. We both care about each other, so we know there's at least one person out there.
And I don't view any of you guys as worthless. And I never will. Me and you, we're the same. So we should always be there for each other, right? I don't want you guys to think that you're all alone in the world. Whatever you do, no matter how far you fall, you'll always have me, at least. Though I don't know if that even means much coming from somebody like me, who you don't even know. Ah well, I guess I'm only a stranger who cares just a little too much.
Anyway, I've dragged this post on long enough. I've said what I wanted to say. And if this post can make even a single one of you feel even the slightest bit happier, then I'll be glad that I was at least able to do that much for you.

>>36476947
Well, sharing embarrassment with characters in fiction is normal because of empathy and shit.

And this thread is about psychological disorders that are rampant on /a/. Someone should write a paper on that.

Most of these social problems start during teen years. Probably because of social influence put strain on people. Remember playing pokemon Red and watching Ranma 1/2 as a kid. Good times. As you get older social influence of being a perfect sociable jock image makes us self conscious about being shy and thus start to avoid things because you start to overthink things. And i believe this is not just for /a/ but for 4chan but i'm not gonna group everyone in, some of us have different experiences. In the end one should just stop over-thinking things and just do it. It's like the movie Yes Man. He said yes to everything and stuff happened...idk gotta watch the movie but i just know his life turns around for doing what he loves and not putting so much pressure to himself. And also, self diagnosis are bad, one starts to count off everything and then fear they have it although it could all be like a placebo, it's all in your head. idk.

>>36477029

While I'm fairly normal, no social anxiety or whatever, I share many interests and views with /a/ I feel like home here.
I'd hang out with you bros if any of you were in Latvia. ;_;

>>36477029
Trying to start a cult?

>>36476947
>If you're embarassed for the characters, it means you have an overstimulated sense of empathy. You feel for the characters so much, that you feel embarassed when they're embarassed, and feel sorry for them. That sense might have even inhibited your social life as well, putting yourself into other people's heads so much, worried of what they might think of you, that you can't even focus on your own actions, and you end up screwing up and embarassing yourself. But who knows...

self-diagnosis can go really wrong...
I was actually diagnosed borderline personality a few years ago, nothing else besides that, but some of the things here do seem a bit familiar...

And then I feel like shit for complaining and whining about these petty things when there are people with diseases or lost their parents or have to work 3 jobs to feed their kids, or people with real problems that they're able to deal with like adults

Meanwhile I have these worthless problems that I don't deal with at all, like a child

>>36477082
I was thinking about creating a thread like this. I was curious about /a/'s situation on mental disorders etc. We like anime, we stay all day long refreshing 4chan, we think that most things outside there suck. And then when I get in here, what do I see. Now I'm refreshing this thread every 1 sec.

>>36477029

>>36476706
*Raises hand*

Threads like this makes me feel less miserable T_T

You will never have your own Congratulations scene...;_;

>>36477192

And people like you make me more miserable. Don't use emoticons or *action*s. Ever.

>>36477170

We have these sorts of threads from time to time.

Continuing here:

>>36477201

thread is auto-saging.

>>36477325
Well, normally we let these thread die when they pass the bump limit.
But I guess /a/'s in a sharing mood tonight.

>>36477265
You could have let it slide in this thread.

>>36477325

Fuck that. That's not a continuation at all. That's just another generic bullshit "DUUUR EPIC GAR, JUST DOOO IT!!!" motivational thread.

>>36477398

Never.

>>36477029
You've just voiced all of my thoughts. Each time /a/ goes down I feel horribly. Last year, when 4chan was down for over a week, I was feeling like someone has killed my brother. That's because even if we have a lot of trolls, attention whores, and all other shits, I remember that somewhere, in various parts of the world, are people that are similar to me. That they share the same insecurities, problems, habits. That I don't have to be understood by those who are close to me physically, because know matter how far away from each other we are, we're together in our hearts.
Thanks to you, /a/nons, I know I can endure all pain and hardships, because you're here. I don't even need to create threads like that, because I honestly believe in you. I don't trust my family or peers, but you are different, because you try to understand me. We shared similar problems during our childhood, youth, adulthood. We had to endure being lonely, being rejected, being different from all others that we met.
But here we listen to each other, we share our problems and insecurities, we're brothers for each other.
Never change, /a/, never change.

>>36477398
>>36477494
Anon may not be proud of many things about himself but at least he does not use emoticons.

everyones movin to this thread i suppose.

>>36477465