There is truth in what this man said.

>-NOBODY has actually bought anything manga or anime related in over a year.

Bought a Yotsuba a few weeks ago. You fail. Get out.

>>35438018
One person dose not make a good buyer market.

Good Riddance

It's just become underground...again.

All the fans are still here and in other places on the internet.

While I could blame the fans themselves for not supporting their passion with money or the greedy distributors for flooding the market with overpriced crap, I also do blame Japanese artists and writers for just getting overall lazier with their own medium. Doesn't Korea do all Japanese animation essentially, now?

I'm actually happy about this...

I bought the 2.22 Blu-ray. Who cares about the west?

>>35438046
do 2 people? I'm been buying a volume or 2 of one piece each month. Going to get Tekkon kincreet in a couple days and the one piece color walk from viz's site.

>>35438046
>1 is more than NOBODY.

Then he shouldn't make such claims. "Hardly anybody" would have sufficed.

Good, that means I can just keep downloading scans/rips from Japan for free.

>but, in the West, it's basically dead.
Thank fucking god.

Umm...no shit?
Anime is all about underage girls nowdays wich america instantly labels as pedophilia.

>>35438093
oh christ, you summed it up perfectly

Yes, OP, anime is dead.

Deader than a dodo.

Get over it.

This proves it: no other type of fan is more disrespectful of his own fandom than the anime fan.

i have a mate that owns a rediculous amount of manga (his last count was 300 volumes and that was a year ago)

and just recently i bought all of haibane renmei on dvd

Meh, plenty has been licensed recently, and I plan on buying the SZS DVD

The less weeaboos, the better. Soon only the weeaboo elite of 4chan will be left.

I buy light novel, and that kinda supports the industry right?

>>35438138
Pretty equal with videogamers, actually

>>35438093
this picture always makes me lul

>>35437991
Japan doesn't give a shit about gaijin money anyway.

>-Cons left and right that used to meet every year are disappearing.

This is good news.

>>35438179
Bullshit. Their economy sucks so hard they can't afford to ignore any income.

A good sign that anime was dead was when amazon would hold a "Big Anime Blowout Sale," selling those 50-80 dollar box sets for 10-20 bucks...

...every single month.

>You can't even find it on basic cable anymore...and if you do, it's the same shows you watched 10-15 years ago.

Who cares, that's what the internet is for.

>Most of the major anime magazines and publishing companies in the West have gone belly up.

Magazines in general are dying. Print media is dead.

>NOBODY has actually bought anything manga or anime related in over a year.

I have.

>Cons left and right that used to meet every year are disappearing.

Which ones? I haven't heard of any major cons disappearing.

Nobody cares, OP.

Enjoy your 4kids.

Our con is still growing every year, are they really having trouble elsewhere?

Anyway, I don't really care that anime in the west is dying, the market boom attracted the worst kind of people.

Well, that must be true in the US, but here, in France, it's still alive, and it's not going to die soon.
We still have a lot of publishers, no one has gone bankrupt for a while. We have some channels dedicated for anime, and some anime on regular TV.
And the Japan Expo is getting bigger every year, with a lot of smaller cons

>>35438196
you keep on forgetting though that the main audience for anime are JAPANESE VIEWERS and those die hard OTAKUS who spend countless amounts of yen for DVDs/BDs/anime related merch.

Keep those fags happy, they get tons of money. Gaijin money is only bonus.

>>35438247
They NEED the gaijin money. Their economy is flushing down the shitter.

And nothing of value was lost.

True anime fans: hate themselves and hate anime

Fake anime fans: Openly profess their love of anime in public areas

>>35438170
No, gamers don't mortally despise the fact that video games get published in their country.

License K-On! and I'll buy it :3

>>35438236
>Anyway, I don't really care that anime in the west is dying, the market boom attracted the worst kind of people.
This is exactly the kind of person that needs to die.

>>35438246

France are true anime/manga bros. America ruined the image of anime in the West, with their big 3 worshipping faggotry.

>>35438298
This is pretty much what the retarded "hardcore" base actually believes.

>>35438247
Lol take it from someone that has actually visited Japan, dumbass: The Japanese do almost the exact same thing Americans otakus do: They flip through manga books at convenience stores without barely ever buying them unless it's for cheap or read them at cafes, they never buy the dvd's of the shows and do everything they can to steal off the web, make their own mangas or fanzines for their own profit and fantasies, etc.

Only thing people seem to sometimes purchase are the massive figurines, costumes, statues, and bobbleheads they decorate themselves and their cars with. Only actual people I actually saw buying ANYTHING in Akihabara were gaijin!

Pedophilia also does seriously appear to be a thing with Japanese otaku in a lot of stores...they just get away with it because "it's cartoons."

I would buy merchandise if American companies made it and sold it at lower prices than it would cost to import. I wouldn't buy DVDs, but most otaku don't either.

Picture related, I would buy it and cum on it.

Why the fuck should we care? Less Narutards, fucking it up for us real fans

This is a good thing.

The more obscure anime becomes, the better.

>>35438298
if you actually look at that from a non-douchebag point of view. you'll see that it actally makes zero sense.

>>35438354
>>35438375
These posts go together nicely.

>>35438326
>saying somebody needs to die for having a different opinion
Oh look it's an edgy teenager who wears witty shirts.

>>35438375

This. If America stopped making their own cheap shit merchandise like keychains or whatever, and instead focused on importing quality stuff I might actually support them.

>>35437991
I don't think that it's a bad thing. Fansubs are still going strong.

I couldn't care less about conventions or anime on TV. I don't read magazines and I'm not interested in merchandize whatsover.

Why should I care? I just want to watch some series I enjoy.

Manga's unique and different style is it's own downfall in the West, I think. While manga has a unique look to it, almost all manga has the same unique look. Just look at shojo and girl manga. Regardless of artist, most of the characters or animations look like they are done by the same person.

Westerners like unique and dynamic looks for just about everything, and tend to get bored with "more of the same," even if it involves the same static characters that have been around since the 1930's. Despite the quality of certain manga and anime, it's been grouped in with the rest of the crap that didn't even sell that well in its own home country.

Manga is a huge market in the west, DVD sales are generally shitty but for good reason

>>35437991

>NOBODY has actually bought anything manga or anime related in over a year.

Also preordered Seto no Hanayome because buying is fun.

The money for a typical half-season box (usually $25-ish) affords me roughly four Big Mac meals. And I don't like Big Macs.

>>35438505
>Westerners like unique and dynamic looks for just about everything, and tend to get bored with "more of the same
I'm not sure if I agree with this completely. Too "strange" or "old" designs are also a major turn-off for some people.

>>35438575
I heard the subs are bad and they use the broadcast instead of DVD master.

I love my Miyako, but I don't want to support shitty localizations.

>>35438569
did...did you just try to sage while posting an image?....wow...

>>35438418
Sup retard trying to masquerade as someone else!

>>35438667
What are you talking about?

The problem with selling anime in the West is that they had to invent a whole new system for selling it.

In Japan their sales system sort of works like this:
1) Anime Fans see TV advertisements and Billboards about a new series coming out
2) Said Anime Fans check out the show on TV when It comes out.
3) If they like it they will keep watching it
4) If they really like it they will "Collect" the DVD's of the show
5) They will also buy related merchandise to their favorite character or show

In the West, the companies tried to set t up like this:
1)Import show ever
2)No advertisements, or only adverts at specific cons
3)Hope Americans buy DVD's that are extremely overpriced compared to any other TV show or Movie wihtout the audience having seen it
4)Profit??? nope... try again

Anime works in Japan because the industry has made it a "collectors" item more then anything else. Whereas in the West they tried to sell it as a "movie" that you haven't seen yet and was overpriced...
Fansubs are just as prevalent in Japan as in the US (well raws are). We're talking about the fact that most Otakus do download their favorite anime... they will still collect the DVD's if they really like the show, just like we do in the West.

The best way to fix this?
Get more shows on TV, make the DVD's $60 and market it towards collectors. Also sell merchandise for around the same price as in Japan.

Frankly it'll never work though because there aren't as many "obsessive" anime fans out there to buy all the products and most of the anime are marketed and geared towards the Japanese Audience.

The average otaku regardless of country is generally a loner with not a lot of money, has very few friends (if any), doesn't get out much, is attracted to alternative lifestyles/underground fashions, and tends to have a hard time fitting in with the rest of their respective society.

Why companies tried to market anything to these kinds of people is pretty stupid, if you think about it.

>>35438667
Sage works with images.

>>35438683
Hello guy who has bad reading comprehension and intellectual insecurities.

I actually buy tons of manga and DVD.

I don't read/watch them, though. They've been in shrinkwraps since forever.

The same goes for my figurines and their boxes.

I'm a collectorfag, but goddamit, I buy and if you don't think there's a market for these, try getting your hands on one of your favorite animu paraphernalia ... only to be greeted by a lot of "sold out" both in-stores and online.

>>35438667

>>35438742
>greeted by a sold-out

Yeah, because, when you only stock 2 or 3 copies of a dvd or book, and 2 or 3 people are the ONLY people who bought it after months of it being listed or on the shelves...you tend not to re-stock it, bro.

>>35438699
Japan is the loniest nation in the world (according to surveys) so it's a practical gold mine there. American doesn't have as many "lonely" people... so yea... it's kinda a waste over here. You only need one really good company to bring it over.

>>35438698
>Fansubs are just as prevalent in Japan as in the US

Japs watching Lost and Simpsons with Trollsubs?
It's more likely then you think

>>35438814
I actually know a good number of Japanese students in the Dorm that I stay at that have been watching LOST fansubed in Japanese....

>>35438814
Don't know about the trollsub, but they also pirate foreign BD/DVDs on their godspeed P2Ps.

Depending on how BR works with anime, I may start buying.

But if its the same sub technology as DVD's forget about it.

I'll stick to figures and manga

>>35438648
They fumbled with S1 because they didn't know of SHAFT's tendency to provide DVD fixes. Their Japanese partners gave them the wrong master copy and they didn't double-check it, assuming it was good.

X365 is fine.You don't have many options if you want to coax them into licensing S3 which will definitely help the creation of S4. I'm not sure what the licensing fees are today, but I'll assume they pay $10K per episode with the minimum number of middle men.

Their other productions, like Maria Holic are fine. Someone just wasn't pedantic enough with Hidamari S1 quality control.

ITT: dubfags, buyfags, confags, streamfags

You knew anime was dead when Toonami was moved from weekday afternoons to only Saturday afternoons...and the only thing on it was a 3-hour Naruto block...and then Toonami just up and fucking died.

>>35438699
actually most otaku still have to live life and makes end meet. Except they blow nearly all their savings into anime/2D/merchandize/game etc instead of blowing them on women/luxuries.

They are the best kind of customers actually. I don't know how you could not see that.

p.s contradictory to popular belief, most otaku have friends. The extreme end that you see are exceptional cases

>>35438354
Who goes to Akihabara when you can order online? NEETs don't want to leave home.

>>35438569

Mugi-chan!!

I' m buying the Needless manga.....that is licensed in Italy......while I'm living in Germany.

If that's not supporting the industry, I don't know what.

>Go to J-List.com
>"Top 5 Best-Selling Manga" is all hentai
>my face

Kinda wish things would change. Like people stop rating something good because they watched with their dick hanging out instead of lolplot.

>>35438978
If you've ever been to Akihabara, you'd take that back in a flash.

>>35438863
BD subs should work the same way as DVD subs, with the exception of having 256 colors instead of 4... and more pixels.

There's also a possibility of a fancier format.

>in the West, it's basically dead.

so?

>>35439028
>Call yourself "Otaking"
>End up selling porn

>>35439034

Sex sells, man. Don't hold your breath if you're expecting that to change.

>>35439114
>Sex sells, man
Unfortunately, often its only sex that sells.

>-NOBODY has actually bought anything manga or anime related in over a year.
>a handful of people reply they bought one or two things
>WHAT IS HYPERBOLE???

>>35438698
>Fansubs are just as prevalent in Japan as in the US (well raws are).

It's true, just go to nicovideo and search any American TV show or web show.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9793326

>>35439237
Oh wow.

And nothing of value was lost.

>>35438575
I am jealous of your stack.

Sadly, Madman Entertainment is the ONLY anime distributor in this country, and they cherry-pick titles and skip most of the good ones. So getting DVDs often involves expensive import shipping. ;_;

>>35439994
>Madman
I can buy the Disgaea anime but not Nanoha or ARIA? Fuck you Madman.

You're incorrect OP. Anime is stronger than it's ever been. Most may not like it but franchises like Naruto, Bleach, Inuyasha, and Death Note have made increased the number fans across the country. You see many new magazines go out of business because unfortunately, that were too overzealous in trying to capture a growing, but still small market. Manga sales have finally hit the million mark here and a steadily growing. For those cons that no longer meet, another takes their place. The anime industry is fine here.

>>35438575
Your major beef can't be with those who dislike the art of a show, aesthetics are some of the main reasons most of /a/ watches what they watch, unless they want to be hipsters

>>35438866
>X365 is fine.
I remember reading somewhere that the video quality is really bad, and unnecessarily so, in that every episode is squashed down to less than a gig and there's tons and tons of free space on every disc.

Can't fucking find the source now, of course. I hesitate to buy either way, since I feel like I was one of the only people who cared enough to even notice the unforgiveable screwup with the TV footage for three episodes on the first season DVDs.

Even if they didn't do that, are the subs definitely better than the embarassing trainwreck of season one?

>>35440302
AH found it somehow.
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=99255

>>35440376
Shit like this makes me not wonder at all why DVD sales are dropping. I buy DVDs mostly so that I can lend them to friends. Why would I do that if the fansub version is vastly superior?

>>35440376
Bitrate graphs from that thread compiled because this thread needs more pictures because it's not pretty enough.

I wish they'd actually posted some fucking screenshots, though.

>>35440993
Also because I'm a fag and still fishing for opinions on the subs.

The paradox I call "the Jeckyll-Hyde phenomena" forced me to buy both S1 and X365, or they'd never reissue it.

I preordered S1 with high hopes, ended up buying X365 solely because of that paradox.

I usually describe said paradox as troubles ostensibly fixing themselves by calling tech support (or buying a replacement, or any other waste of work and time).

ON THE OTHER HAND...
Japanese are pumping out more doujins and other fanmaterial than ever before.

I live in Ausfailia and the only anime they air is yuhioh and pokemon. also death note on mondays. shit sucks

ANIMATION IS GOOD FOR PROMOTING THINGS

BUT NOT SO GOOD FOR FUNDING ITSELF

Monster is new to the US and is on Scifi chanel every Monday.

But the rest of it is pretty much true.

SAVE ANIME! BUY CLANNAD!!!

I buy plenty of anime, downloading seasons is a chore

TO JAPAN!!!

That doesn't really matter because it's not made in the West but in Japan.

Swefag here.

They show the following anime here:

NGE
Fma
Death note
Samurai Champloo
Ninja scroll
Ergo proxy
Narutos first arc (Zabusa arc)

They shouldn't have flooded the market with shit.

Nothing of value etc.

>>35439237
What faggots. How can they leave the word fuckness in and don't find a proper Japanese expression of it.

Have they never heard of localisation?

Fucking reverse weeaboos. If I was Japanese I'd want my subtitles in Japanese and not in fucking English. They should take lessons from gg.

I couldn't possibly give less of a shit about the health of the Western anime industry.

I personally feel like anime is dead in the West when Cartoon Network doesn't show anime anymore.

Anime has been part of CN for a long time. Then one day, during its Naruto craze, it just packed it all up and banished anime from the channel. I remember when there was a whole "action block" on Toonami every Saturday. Now? Johnny Test.

Johnny FUCKING Test does better than anime ever did on CN.

Brazilian fag here,

Cable network has one channel mainly dedicated to anime (Animax)
There is one PPV Hentai channel among the sex channels

Saying anime is dead is like saying Pokemon is dead, just cause you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there and making tons and tons of money

>>35442227
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

>>35438090
>>35438102
>>35438158
>>35438192
>>35438236
>>35438349
>>35438381
Idiotic fuckers like you ruin EVERY fandom. Star Trek fandom, Game show fandom, classic video game fandom, whatever else you can get your grubby little hands on. You drive away all the people who actually CARE about the fandom and the prducts and then circle jerk all day about how superior your are.

Fuck you all to hell.

Wanna be a REAL fan, shithead. But the Clannad Dual audio box set when it comes out. I will.

>anime related merchandises

the only portions of the industry that have disappeared are the ones that were handled poorly or inflated, the manga industry is still going strong, and I I'm pretty sure CN, XD, and SF all still run anime

I'll believe anime and manga are dead when Pokemon leaves the air.

>>35442289

>thinks we care about his opinion

>>35442289

In US maybe, it's still pretty strong in the south america france and most asian countries.

I'm actually curious.

Besides DVD sales. How much does merchandising in the form of tankobons, character CDs/OSTs and toys/figures contribute to the anime industry?

>>35441411
God, is this really the way it has to be? I have to buy a shitty release of a series I like in order to have any hopes of it eventually get a good one?

Because I'd rather just not support shoddy companies doing substandard, sub-professional work and hope they die.

I hope the american anime industry dies.
All us europeans, who can't buy anime because it's not available in our country, can't even access fansubs because the american companies are blocking them.
When an american buys anime, all the money goes to the american publisher anyway. Not the japanese studio.

good, fuck anime

>>35443120

I know how you feel. I bought both, just because I love the show and never expected it to be licensed. The x365 release was more or less fine though. Having said that, I doubt I'd buy any other DVDs from them. I only make an exception for Hidamari.

>>35442910
Funimation just posted profits this year OP

>>35443290
Their Maria Holic release was okay, until someone proves me wrong.

Ausfag here, I'd have no idea where to buy figurines and I wouldn't pay more than $30 for one. So I doubt there is much of a market here for that stuff.

Not going to ever buy DVDs.

>>35443350

Would think about buying manga but only full colour ones and No more than $20 for a thick book of it.

>>35443359
>full colour manga

i lol'ed

The reason anime is dieing in the US is simple. Its the American distributors. They take too long to dub, which costs money, and they refuse to sell the dvds at reasonable prices. But what is worse is the fact that they almost literally refused to embrace digital distribution until very recently. Most Otakus realized that Large hard drives are cheaper than DVDs, and hold way more. I personally wouldn't mind paying 1.99$ to own an episode of my favorite show that I can watch at my convenience.

Combine this with the huge piles of shit they forced into American markets over the last 7-8 years, and its no wonder mainstream Americans think all we watch is porn and Pokemon.

And as far as conventions go, most go out after 3 years. Ones that have been around are not going anywhere, and need your support. Besides, its a ton of work to run even a small con, and its not something you can ever do for money. You got to do it for the love.

>>35439237
>fuckness

>>35442910
The animation studios are likely getting a slice of BD/DVD sales directly. Everything else passes through the IP holders who provided the initial funding.

Character song CDs give a few yen to the VAs, and many yen to the IP holders.

Merchandise ends up in the IP holders pockets, the animation studio's character designers might get a few yen from helping out with designs.

Some studios, like Ufotable, try to make everything in-house as to avoid middle men. Most of their stuff are original animes with manga spinoffs.

I pre-ordered the Seto no Hanayome DVD.

FOR THE DUB.

>>35438575
IIRC it's only the first six episodes that use TV masters (Not the last few that were QUALITY). And the translations are quite good, especially seeing how bad the fansubs for the first season of Hidamari Sketch were.

>>35443450
>and they refuse to sell the dvds at reasonable prices.
This is one complaint I don't get. Anime DVDs are fucking cheap as far as my eye can see. And I live in the UK, importing American shit (previously for stuff that's not out here, though I recently realised that PAL conversions are garbage and refuse to buy them any more).

For example, the Baccano boxset is like $30. Compare to the $60 for each TWO EPISODE disc in Japan.

Granted the video quality on the japanese discs will be better, but I still don't see where you get off saying that sort of pricing is expensive.

In the case of Hidamari Sketch, we're pretty limited in our options to support the studio.

Shit sucks and the one thing we can do is to suck shit. A horrible product is sadly better than no license money at all.

Remember to get your Miyako dish: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/goods/goods_detail.html?KEY=NEOGDS-24026

>>35437991
Anime studios in japan should hire a few acceptable translators and sub their anime themselves, then distribute them via amazon.co.jp or another marketplace on the net with international shipping.
If some HK bootleg companies can do this, why can't the studios themselves do it? They already know about selling OVAs in japan. It's pretty easy to apply this marketing knowledge to the international market.

>>35443677

> Remember to get your Miyako dish

Oh man, don't tempt me. I missed out on the Azusa cup.

>>35443546
It's only episodes 1, 5, and 6 used broadcast masters. But that's still 3 too many.

The translations are just about better than the fansubs, but are still bad. I posted a couple of obvious examples already, and there's a general feel of "we were only listening to the audio and not watching the video while translating this" feel to the whole thing.

There's a bit in episode 7 (about 3:05 in) where an entire line is missing, so the next two lines get shunted forward one (so are spoken by the wrong characters), and the third line after covers two spoken lines.

My japanese isn't good enough to confirm it across the board, but I'm fairly sure they also toned down any reference to Sae's masculinity. Miyako's "newhalf/newquarter" line was rendered as "you like to crossdress/sometimes like to crossdress", other places where both fansubs had her joking that she might be a guy were, on the DVDs, rendered as things like "she has too much testosterone" or "has a manly demeanour".

I am well aware that Hidamari is niche even within its niche, and it's a miracle it even got a release, but frankly I cannot see how I can be expected to pay money for a product like this, no matter how bad the fansubs are.

>>35443598
>Baccano boxset is like $30
Try $80

>You can't even find it on basic cable anymore...and if you do, it's the same shows you watched 10-15 years ago.

Cartoon Network does broadcast anime, but it's either restricted to where kids are most likely awake or relegated to late night hours on Saturday night-early Sunday morning. (Apparently they think everyone who has cable has a DVR. Guess what, I DON'T.). The only other way to get anime these days via cable is via On Demand services like the Funimation Channel (which also has it's own linerar cable channel but it's not available to EVERY cable market), but even that is limited compared to what you can find from the internet.

>Most of the major anime magazines and publishing companies in the West have gone belly up.
That is true, not because of their own fault but due to the fact advertising revenues are falling for all types of media, so this means the following: Focus on online usage or shut down entirely.

>NOBODY has actually bought anything manga or anime related in over a year.

Not true, people are still buying anime despite using downloading fansubs of the same anime years ago.

>Cons left and right that used to meet every year are disappearing.

Not where I'm at. Otakon, Katsucon, and Anime USA are still going. Where do you live OP?

By the way, any other SHAFTfags pissed at the news that the artbook is delayed another two goddamn months?
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=NEOBK-698316

>>35443598
Because comparing to Japanese prices is ridiculous. The markets are completely different. I can go down to the store and pick up a box set of the first four seasons of House for $30, or the latest season for $15.

But I have to pay $40 for half of Bamboo Blade? It's a good show, but is it THAT good?

>>35443786
>Anime studios in japan should hire a few acceptable translators and sub their anime themselves, then distribute them via amazon.co.jp or another marketplace on the net with international shipping.
They'd propably just end up charging riduculous amounts of money for the DVDs and when westerners won't buy them, they'll just say there isn't a market in the West for anime.

>>35444037
>riduculous
Fuck me.

>>35443931
No.
http://www.amazon.com/Baccano-Complete-Box-Michael-Tatum/dp/B002R0LRGW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&
amp;qid=1275055584&sr=8-1
Even importing that into the UK, I doubt any import duties are going to bump it up that much.

Fuck does that mean were gonna lose all those great western anime fans?! ...awesome, I get my shit from japan anyways.

>>35444005
Guess what? Comparing to domestically produced television series is also ridiculous. Because those markets are also completely different.

OP is a butthurt dubfag.

>>35444162
But they're not. They're the same market. The same people buying them.

>>35437991

Go back to your dubbing studio, Eric (Sherman of Poof Sputter).

>>35444128
http://www.axelmusic.com/productDetails/704400096259
£26 and £2 shipping to the UK. No strings attached.

>>35444128
Import duties, maybe not. Shipping? Add fifteen or something ridiculous like that.

I'm grateful it's dying in the west. I don't want any more shitty dubs and the fans here are retarded.

>>35444241
Ah, forgot to mention that Axelmusic is based in the EU, meaning no customs or strange taxation to be paid by the buyer. What you see is what you pay.

If I really like a show I will buy it. With that said I've purchased probably 3 series out of the many I've seen just because most aren't worth buying.

I WOULD buy manga but every time I walk into the store they are sold out of the volumes I want to buy.

>>35444374
Your manga store sucks, find a better one with a decent webpage showing their inventory.Or do mail order.

My local convention, Anime Boston, is having attendance grow steadily by like 2000 every year. The fans are still there.

>>35444206
But they're not the same market. Very few people who buy things like House and West Wing or whatever are going to be buying anime. The exception of You does not count.

And regardless, they are different products in their very nature, because one was produced domestically and the footage can just be dropped onto the DVD as is with a few extras, whereas the other is imported from somewhere on the other side of the world, so license fees need to be paid and translation needs to be done (even with sub only releases).

>>35444266
I just went through all the motions and
>Shipping & Handling: GBP 4.63 (which is about $6.71)
And this is even without this guy >>35444241 telling you even harder.

>>35444404

Sakura Media has an online webpage showing their inventory, however is terrible and hard to navigate.

I will never order online or mail order because it's always a ripoff.

>>35444421
Amazon won't even let you see how much shipping will be without giving them your credit card details first. They're hardly the only online stores that does this but it's still shit.

>>35444453
>I will never order online or mail order because it's always a ripoff.
For god's sake what is wrong with you people? You can just use fucking Amazon! You can get shit super cheap thanks to marketplace sellers. Look! Yotsuba volumes for between $4 and $7!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=yotsuba&x=0&
;y=0
Berserk for much the same!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=berserk&
x=0&y=0
And Future Diary!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=future+diary
&x=0&y=0

And I'm sure that if you actually looked around you could find places selling it for even less. If you can't even look past the end of your nose at the most mainstream, accessible, and obvious place to shop on the internet then frankly I don't know what's wrong with you.

>>35444614
Amazon is a dick due to "this item cannot be shipped to your location" for half the shit I want to buy from it. With no epxlanation either.

Ebay can be just as bad with "herp derp I dun wanna ship to da overseas durr its too hard ta figger out".

>>35444542
's why I get anime from Axelmusic. Put something in the basket and shipping cost appear.

What kinda sucks is that everything is sent individually, and you pay shipping for each product. On the other hand it does shorten shipping times.

>>35438093
this is an awesome comic. who made it?

>>35444655
Where do you live? If you're living in some tiny European country, Australia, the Philippines, or wherever it is that you don't get shit of your own and can't even import easily then yes, your situation is bad and you've got a reason to complain. I'm not really directing this at you.

It's just that I always see stupid schoolkids (I hope) living right in the heart of North America making these same complaints every thread and it drives me up the wall.

Reminds me of the one guy in some thread a few months back who complained about having no money to buy anime, but then revealed that he bought breakfast, lunch and dinner at McDonald's and a big fucking coffee at Starbucks every single day. I'm inocculated to almost every kind of idiocy that crops up on here but the total inability to manage and understand money is something I have yet to get used to.

>>35444832
I am also aware that the examples of countries I gave are probably hugely ignorant and incorrect, please do not jump to conclusions based on them.

>>35444614
fuck yeah i just bought Yostuba vol. 1 2 days ago, looking forward to getting it!

>>35444832
>Reminds me of the one guy in some thread a few months back who complained about having no money to buy anime, but then revealed that he bought breakfast, lunch and dinner at McDonald's and a big fucking coffee at Starbucks every single day. I'm inocculated to almost every kind of idiocy that crops up on here but the total inability to manage and understand money is something I have yet to get used to.

That is a good example of opportunity cost right here.

>>35444832
I used to waste all my money on computer parts until I figured out what I had use for and what was superfluous. Ended up getting three dozen DVDs while skipping the yearly upgrade.

Food is expensive in Sweden, while everything else is not.

>>35445049
I'm afraid I don't understand.
I had not heard the term before so I looked it up, and while I think I understand the concept I can't really figure out what point you're trying to make.

Are you saying that he could buy either anime OR his overpriced, unhealthy meals?
I'm saying he could buy infinitely cheaper food at a supermarket, save his money, and eventually buy anime, thus being able to support his hobby AND sustain himself.

In Atlanta there are only two cons yearly (Well publicized ones), but they are going strong...

Boo fucking hoo. They never showed any anime on TV over here to begin with. It's a wonder we even _had_ an anime magazine, they must have been running the same articles about the same five shows over and over again.

OP is a butthurt dubfag.

And not a single fuck was given that day.