Damn, I hate summer.

op here
btw i'm not necessarily trolling, just want a legitimate answer for this pressing question.

Because nobody wants to tell the world they watch girl cartoons.

>>34962351
Assuming this isn't a troll I'll give an honest answer.

>But, you know, it's kind of fucked up that "anime" has to have its own separate board than "cartoon".
If they were to be on the same board half the threads would be about shit we don't care about. If we wanted to talk about it we'd go to /co/. There's a difference in the presentation. It's not just separated by country.

>Is Haruhi not a good enough show to stand on its own, in the realm of actual television
It is, however the /aco/ fusion board would probably be filled with mainstream, linear shounen that only people that watch Adult Swim or people new to anime would talk about. The more obscure (To the masses anyway), old or even newer anime airing in Japan right now would be outnumbered by the sheer amount of mainstream stuff that really no one here cares about.


tl;dr
Big 3 and Adult Swim threads everywhere.

>>34962740
So basically what you're saying is that you prefer watching anime over cartoons? There is a difference in presentation, just like there's a difference in presentation between American cartoons and Canadian cartoons and English cartoons and German cartoons, etc. infinity

Sounds like a lot of shit is just getting a pass because "Japan!"

>>34962740
Also, anime joining with cartoons (both on 4chan and in reality) would actually get people to accept anime instead of brushing it off and saying "I'm not into that sort of thing." It would just be a fact of life, just like every other country contributing to every other sort of medium.

>>34962351

Demanding sauce for pic.

Well, anime watchers seem to be more... Obsessive than little kids watching cartoons or even people watching any other kind of show (save diehard sports fanatics).

As someone who likes good animation, regardless of its origin, I still have to disagree. Often when a board covers too broad a topic, the older and/or lesser known stuff tends to get buried under the violent onslaught of the most recent/most popular stuff.

With this separation there is at least a fair chance you can get some kind of discussion going about lesser known and older stuff.

>>34962351
The alienation is going to be added to when Tokyopop releases that reality show of theirs.

Because we don't want to have to see threads about Superman and Powepuff Girls and shit when we want to talk about anime.

>>34962934
/co/ has plenty of guys who read Batman every single week and are obsessive and totally fucking love Batman. It's the same thing with manga...the only difference are backwards pages and bigger eyes. It's not such a gigantic leap that it's not a part of the same medium anymore.

>>34962795
Except that for at least a year there will be a ton of recommendation threads, Adult Swim threads, big 3 threads and other stuff -we don't want.- Talking about them isn't bad, but if you were to get people new to anime, we'd have over 8 pages of this stuff for about a year. Even then, because 4chan is mainstream thanks to the shithole known as /b/, maybe if we're lucky it would reduce to 2 or 3 pages.

/a/ moves fast already. How long do you think actual discussions that aren't about linear mainstream stuff do you think are gonna last? This would be the worst move Moot could make.

>>34963151
They would last a long time, and since the two would be joined both "groups" would be there searching for whatever they want to search for. When you want to bring up Reboot (obscure canadian show) on /co/, you simply mention it and there are BOUND to be at least a couple people to discuss it with.

This all just sounds like a really pathetic excuse for liking things because KAWAIIII, or whatever. Just like cartoons because they're cartoons; the origin doesn't fucking matter to anyone else.

God damn OP's pic is cuter than every moe show combined.

Still waiting for sauce.

>>34963384
no sauce, found it on someone's tumblr

Japanese entertainment/media isn't run by jews, so you don't see it promoted here, that is unless you see some anime adapted into live action by Hollywood.

>>34963400

O-okay then... ;_;

>>34963247
>you simply mention it and there are BOUND to be at least a couple people to discuss it with.
You seem to be ignoring one of my main points I brought up.

>/a/ moves fast already. How long do you think actual discussions that aren't about linear mainstream stuff do you think are gonna last?
>/a/ moves fast already
Again, /a/ moves fast already. If there were to be a fusion and we still only had 15 pages, threads about non-mainstream stuff will 404 within 10 minutes.

>This all just sounds like a really pathetic excuse for liking things because KAWAIIII,
That one comment tells me you're one of the people I'm talking about. Anime targets any audience whether it be serious, deep or comedic without being dismissed as childish as opposed to the mindset of Americans to cartoons.

>>34963532
No, Anime targets people who like Anime. Unless you have a friend who directly hands you things it's basically impossible to get into, due to different boards and different websites and different standards. I read recently about how manga is a dying business and all I can say is "no shit". A lot of cartoons and comics are dumbed down for the masses like everything else, but there are still the bright points that keep it all alive. When you focus solely on the >1% of society that gives a fuck about anime, sure, it can be good, but when it dies due to lack of exposure that's nothing to complain about.

>>34963247
I think that they are separated for a reason. People have different tastes in their animation and combining the boards would cause problems like other anons have stated.

We also run into the problem of the number of people that visit /a/. Moot was actually thinking of splitting Anime and Manga into 2 different boards because it is the third most regularly visited board. Adding a new group of people would cause problems in this way as well. With /a/ being so frequented, people from /co/ might not really even be able to post without being overrun with /a/'s stuff and seeing their threads die.

tl;dr
Boards are too big to merge and we like different things.

>>34963637
>No, Anime targets people who like Anime.
While that can be true, by audience I also implied ages. There are anime targeted at people over 20.

>Unless you have a friend who directly hands you things it's basically impossible to get into, due to different boards and different websites and different standards
I'm not the majority but I got myself into it just fine. It's also exactly -because- of the those different boards and websites that anime is portrayed the way it is over here. The average American anime viewer I can assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, will watch anime for fights and mild story. If the anime is too long or the story gets too deep they will drop it. Acquaintances I know that I casually talk to about anime fit the bill dead on for this. The most complex thing they can get into is Death Note.

>A lot of cartoons and comics are dumbed down for the masses like everything else
America doesn't know of the ones that aren't. This is my main complaint against a board fusion.

>but when it dies due to lack of exposure that's nothing to complain about.
The exposure it has now is good enough for sales, however sales outside of Japan do nothing for the creator and only benefit the company in charge of localization. It has no effect on what anime are being made in Japan.

>>34964053
"The average American anime viewer I can assume, and correct me if I'm wrong, will watch anime for fights and mild story."

You are wrong. AND now you're just crawling up your own ass, trying to talk about how "refined" you and your tastes are. Anime and manga are just as good and bad as cartoons and comics. It doesn't fucking matter the country of origin. There are brilliant comics and horrible comics just like there is brilliant manga and horrible manga. If there's anyone who is an uncivilized jackass it's you for putting yourself on a higher level than other human beings; INCLUDING just assuming everything other than anime is bad without having any knowledge of it.

>>34964264
How can you speak as if you know what the average viewer watches.

He assumes they watch for violence, if Americans don't, why do we create so many war movies?

Many people I know just enjoy basic stories. I'm not saying anime is DEEP, look at Lucky Star, but it does come in many more different packages than that of comics and many cartoons. I rarely, if ever, see a love high school cartoon that isn't anime. The genre is just different and Moot recognized this and created separate boards for that reason.

>>34964264

I wouldn't go as far as to say he's just trying to make his own tastes look better, and you're pretty dense if you don't see what he's coming from; most anime viewers aren't looking for a very meaningful and deep experience.

>>34964264
>There are brilliant comics and horrible comics just like there is brilliant manga and horrible manga
I didn't deny this, nor did I say anything negative towards animation of other countries other than "We don't want it here".

>If there's anyone who is an uncivilized jackass it's you for putting yourself on a higher level than other human beings
Look, I'm trying to have a discussion with you. No need to resort to namecalling. Reread my post. I said the -average- American anime viewer. It's a given those at /a/ will have heard of others, but the majority of Americans haven't. Keep in mind I'm just giving a generalization. Can you honestly go up to an anime fan at your school or work and expect them to have heard of nearly ANYTHING mentioned on /a/? It would be rare.

Throughout high school and even now in college I have met a ridiculous amount of people that have fit exactly how I described them. They just go with the hype. Only a handful watch anything else. This is especially evident on the majority of anime boards you can find online as well.

Now, you didn't reply to any of my other points on >>34964053. Go ahead if you want to. I think they might be worth discussing now that I've clarified.

Fanservice is the great divider. Or to put it another way, anime is largely pedoshit. I'm sure there's a lot of stuff like that in American comics, but it probably isn't as highly flaunted as Japan's wares.

Ignoring the joining of the boards, I agree. FMA Brotherhood is infinitely better than House, Glee, Caprica, and the other shows that are currently popular in America.

>>34964659 here

>>34964264
Did you leave? You were the only one that actually responded to my individual points. It'd be nice to keep this going.

I'd say most of this board doesn't give a fuck about Batman, and that most of their board doesn't give a fuck about Joseph Joestar.
And that's alright.
They are different hobbies.

>>34964264
Last bump for you. Shame you left over a misunderstanding.