Source?

>still can't own a firearm

>>34713058
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8677933.stm

>>34713061
Andnotasinglefuckwasgiven.jpg

>>34713097

Is this the result of Cameron and Clegg's talks?

Got sauce?

>>34713078

Fuck yes.

This is the time to fight for your lolis you Britfags. Go to the Queen or the Parliment or whoever is in charge and let yourself be heard.

Scotfag here. Shit wont affect me so I don't care.

YES! Source?

>>34713137
People wouldn't stand up and be counted when it was legal, you really think they're going to admit to wanting is allowed now that possession gets you on the Sex Offender's Register?

Hooray!

>>34713206
PROTIP: You're not an independent nation, bro. This affects you as much as people in England.

>>34713061
Gun crime isn't a problem in the uk. If guns were legalised there would be a gun problem in the uk.

>>34713247
No. The anti loli law doesn't affect us.

>>34713021
I fuckin' love me some Lib Dem!

Glad they're scrapping that retarded ID card scheme too.

>>34713125
I think it's a good coalition - tories to end the welfare state, lib dems for freedums

>>34713224
You don't have to directly fight for lolis. Simply say that it's ridiculous to ban drawings.

>>34713256
There is no such thing as a gun problem.
Only a retard problem.

Guns are what separate subjects, from civilians.
Using your logic, I could argue just as easily that stabbings are a problem and you guys shouldn't be trusted with silverware.

That being said, crimes are less likely to take place when the criminal knows before hand his target owns a firearm. If everyone just owned a gun we would be safer.

I have to say we got the best deal in the end

Both the Conservatives and Lib Dems had shit policies on their own but together they are fucking awesome

Glad we aren't Tory only government

>>34713286
And they'll ask: "What do you mean, what drawings are illegal?"

>>34713329
I'd rather have retards with knives than retards with knives and guns.

>>34713329
We aren't in the Wild West any more

Amurka doesn't realise this because they are morons

>>34713340
Drawings of naked 6 year old girls getting torn apart by tentacles, sir.

>>34713061
Good. The only people who want to own firearms (beyond what is currently permissible, which is fairly reasonable) are the people who shouldn’t, from my experience.

>>34713137
From the looks of things, we may not have to. The Bill already had a fair amount of opposition, and its reasons for passing were tenuous at best. If the review works out, it's probably going to have to be changed.

>>34713360
That's the worst come back I have ever heard.

>>34713224

And do you know that the law's so ridiculous it hasn't been upheld?

Derp.

>>34713329

>If everyone just owned a gun we would be safer.

Cool story, bro. Enjoy your homicide rates, amerifags.

If guns were legal in the UK, black people would be shooting everyone.

>>34713329
Knife crime is a huge problem in the UK.
If no one owned a gun there would be no gun problems.

>If everyone just owned a gun we would be safer.

HURR DURR DUURRRRRRRR guns aren't dangerous

>>34713398
Well then, get a ban on silverware, toothpicks, hunting kni- Oh wait, no guns.

Now someone needs to make a new copypasta where "etchy lolly" is unbanned.

>>34713406
You sound like a coward, no offense.

It was a foregone conclusion Cameron was going to be the next PM. But thanks to this coalition, it could have been a lot, lot worse. Turned out not so bad. Lets just hope they actually keep to this and undo some of the crap Labour pulled.

>>34713406
How many mass shootings have you heard of that took place in Switzerland, where every citizen is required to keep and maintain a rifle at home?

So does this mean the Digital economy law will no longer be in effect?

>>34713391
>If guns were legal in the UK, Muslims would be shooting everyone.
Fixed.

Call me Dave.

i care more about digital economy bill bullshit than loli
i wouldnt be able to download shit if it actually comes to fruition

>>34713406
Well, the gun itself aren't dangerous.
The retard using it on the other hand...

>>34713474
muslims don't shoot people out right, they use your own laws against you. Moving in, slowly eroding away your system from the inside, and when these forces don't work they resort to bribes, threats, and terror. Suicide bombers come to my mind.

sauce of OP's pic?

>>34713445
What a prrrofound innnduction.

>>34713329
Knives have uses other than killing things. You'd have a hard time saying the same for guns. We don't need guns in the UK, fuck that shit. It's bad enough that there are retarded cops and criminals who can get their hands on them, we don't want every shaven-headed thug in the country to be able to have one under the premise of 'home security'.

>>34713286
tell that to Denmark and the sandniggers

>>34713391
Wait, I thought you guys had smart blacks, and only us ameriKKKans had this problem with retarded nigger syndrome.

>>34713468
How many shootings have you heard of in the UK? Not many, its hard to get a gun around here.

guns are for dumb hicks, can we get back to /a/nime?

>>34713530
Blacks from london are the worst type of blacks.

>>34713386
>>34713391
>>34713406
>>34713474
Are you people really this stupid?

Crime rates GO UP where guns are illegal.

Enjoy not being to prevent your own murder. Over here in America fuck yeah I'll be carrying my glock 26 in case shit goes down.

Lawfag here: does Britain have the same idea of civil liberties that the US does. I thought British common law didn't have the same relationship with individual rights that US did:

http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2008/12/why-defend-freedom-of-icky-speech.html

>>34713516
Well see that's the problem. There is already no security.

If they are criminal, they are going to break the law regardless. All they are doing is making the law abiding civilian defenseless. While criminals, well they still get there hands on guns and knives.

From what I have heard the police take around 10 min to get your home from when you first call them.
Thats plenty of time for them to murder your ass with a gun, because you didn't have one of your own.

Yup SECURITY up in here.
I could see your guys arguing points for why no one should have a gun but seriously. It's time proven fact they are better when everyone has them VS only when criminals get them.

>>34713505
This. Why can't those people go back to their own countries and shoot their own people?

>>34713570
Here in the uk we just beat the shit out of people instead.

>>34713468
None; Swiss culture is morally-developed and praises non-violence and neutrality (probably). They also don't worship niggers, nor do they have a hard-on for power.

>>34713570
Do statistics support this? I thought comparisons between Seattle and Vancouver revealed Seattle (without gun control laws) had a higher incidence of violent gun-related crime per capita.

>>34713544
Yeah, well those "dumb hicks" are professional farmers, and tradesmen alike, regardless how they look you judge mental fuck rod.

There is a reason why america is called the bread basket.
Sure is hell not no paper pushing panzies and niggers doing all that work. To call them a hick is a great diservice to them. Inb4 ur a hick hurr.
I live up north north, to close to canada for my own comfort.

>>34713570
If I'm stupid, then you are completely fucking brainless. America is a prime example of where to make a compromise in personal defense.
Many of you are too stupid to own guns, and I guess this spoils it for you who are prone to shooting their own wives in a heated argument rather than to commit armed robbery.
Don't worry, though; your boyfriend still loves you.

>>34713675
> I live up north north, to close to canada for my own comfort.
Montana cowboy.

>>34713716
What does your argument even mean? That's like saying "well if I argue with my wife I'll just commit robbery, cause I can't shoot her" NO!? Then he still just beat the fuck out of her, or Lol stab her.

Fact of the matter is, bad things will happen regardless. Guns or no guns. I'd rather have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.

>>34713610
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=8340

Just do a simple google search and see for yourself instead of just believing what the MSM tells you.

I heard of this one town in the US where everyone was required to carry a firearm and there hasn't been a murder there in like 40 years.

People are going to think twice before mugging/raping/attacking someone if they KNOW they have a gun and are going to fight back.

Back on topic though. Woo! Repealling of 'tard-laws.

>>34713733

ITT: Redneck NRA propoganda

>come to /a/ and see this thread
>say one thing about firearms
>thread derailed
Mission success!

>>34713675
Thanks, i grew up on a dairyfarm in northeast Texas so hearing that means alot.

If you honestly believe a politician's promises, you're a fucking moron.

ITT: Sour ass eurofags displaying a hilarious amount of green envy.

>>34713843

Is your mother also your sister ?

>>34713766
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>>34713861
Truth.

Problem, Eurofags?

>>34713784

>We agree that receipt of benefits for those able to work should be conditional on the willingness to work.

This is exactly the problem at the moment you have people who can work not working,there is a woman who lives near me who hasn't worked for 20 years.

Worst thing is she isn't even an ethic minority.

This coalition is giving us the best of both parties in my opinion.

>>34713881
Ha, funny. Did you pull that joke out of the "they have heard this one a million times before" hat.
Please, at least come up with a fresh insult to fire at us next time ( no pun intended )

>>34713777
>Analysts in the U.S. were quick to point out that all of the other industrialized nations included in the survey had stringent gun-control laws, but were overall much more violent than the U.S.

>>34713021
snuffgirl.jpg

>>34713972

>Jon E. Dougherty is a Missouri-based writer and the author of "Illegals: The Imminent Threat Posed by Our Unsecured U.S.-Mexico Border."

Hey, sounds like a credible source!

>>34713995
the fuck?

>Guns should be made legal in UK
Fuck, I don't care. I wouldn't own one, anyway.

>>34714027
Sounds credible to me? It is a threat, and it's rearing it's ugly head as we speak. Shame it's a matter of national security and states are being forced to handle the matter on there own.
Sad thing is these states are supposed to rule themselves and govern their own bodies, yet everyone is up in arms about arizona which is dogsballs.

There argument is about as invalid as wanting all car alarms removed because they make them to hard to steal. Fucking LAUGHABLE.

>>34713936
Nope. U mad?

>>34713021

Won't affect the 2010 Coroners and Justice Act one jot though, which makes possession of sexualised images of underage people illegal here in the UK.


Lumiere: 'Under the 2010 Coroners and Justice Act, you are under arrest for possessing underage images of a sexualised nature. You have the right to remain silent, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention anything which you later rely on in court. Anything you say will be given in evidence. Your computers will be confiscated. If there is data encrypted which you refuse to decrypt, you will be charged with withholding evidence, impeding police investigations and perverting the course of justice; in court, you will be ordered to decrypt said data, and you WILL comply. Refusal to do so will be seen as an admission of guilt by the prosecution, jury and judge, and you WILL be charged with contempt of court.

Requesting authorisation for arrest, Director Eclipse.'

Eclipse: 'Request Granted.'

>>34714048
Not sure if these kinda things exist or not where you live. You should check out a firing range if you can though, rent a pistol, buy a box of ammo and let loose a target. It's more entertaining then you might think, besides..ALL OF YOU GUYS, are just knocking something you haven't even tried. We might as well be arguing about the fact being an astronaught is boring as fuck, even though none of us have been to space.

The heck are you on about guns anyway?

If you don't have people who hate you, you can just get one and no-one will give a fuck about it unless you wave it around in public or fire it in residential areas.

We count Arizona as part of the south now, correct?

>>34713588
Fuck that shit. Organised criminals, gang members and other types who have the necessary connections to get guns into the country, they'll have guns. Your average opportunistic burglar? Not so much. I live in a big city and most of the B&E that goes on here is by chancers who smash windows with bricks when they've made sure no one's in. They don't have fucking guns, they probably don't even have knives. People in their homes or on the streets aren't going to come across someone with a gun looking to jump them, it's too hard and expensive to get the damn things, so why bother when a knife has just as much threat value? The only gun related danger in this country is from fucktarded trigger-happy cops, not imaginary gunmen.

>>34714048
Neither would I, or any reasonable person. It's the skin-heads, gun freaks and paranoid home owners who'd get them. See how well that works out.

>hear Camron is prime minister
FUCK no, shit's gonna suck!
>See this
CARON IS OLEV!

>>34713137
They didn't ban loli, they banned anything underage:
loli!=underage
loli=prepubescent
It bans loli along with everything else.

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the world of trick shooting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1sRO4DpRP8

Not everyone buys a gun to protect their small TV and pet dog.

>>34714142
Actually, they banned anything that was, looked or was made to look underage.

>>34714103

britfag here. I reguarly go clay pigeon shooting. It's fun as hell but I still have no intention of owning a gun.

>>34714176

And not everyone buys a gun to trick shoot.

How come we can never have a thread without americans coming in and making it about the laws in their fucking country?

>>34714199
Well that's pretty cool bro. I'm not going to give you flak for not having one. In some cases it's a personal choice, or not. That's cool though glad you guys still got clay shooting. Going to be doing some of that this weekend.

>>34714212
Well, what did you want. Just saying, everything has a double edge.

>>34714217

Because otherwise the thread wouldn't be about us.

>>34714103
We have firing ranges, I've been to one a few times. It's not that great, but if it does it for you, fine. As it is, possession of a gun if heavily controlled, and it's better that way. Better than having easy access for any moron to have one at any rate.

>>34714217
Because America is the only country that matters. You'd think so too if you lived here.

>>34714217
'Cause there are a lot of Americans on /a/ and britfag laws bore them.
And it's /a/, so they have to post in threads they don't like.

>>34714217
Being an american, I don't make those threads because I don't know shit about our own laws.
When I want to know something I will ask a Eurofag about my nations laws, because they can't seem to get enough of them. It's almost like they are up late at night having night terrors over our shit.

>>34714048

>Guns should be made legal in UK
>Fuck, I don't care. I wouldn't own one, anyway.

Neither would I. But then, the Dunblane atrocity in 1996 ensured that guns became illegal here - mainly due to a massive campaign for guns to be banned by the British public. Which I was involved in. And I'm glad I was. After all:

‘Guns are the crutches of the impotent’

-Arthur C. Clarke

Guns should only be carried by the police, armed forces and security agents. A mugger can't do anything to you with a knife or stone - if he's standing far away from you. Thus is why I've never been mugged. Nor shot in a drive-by.

If the ability for those who would do so is removed, the streets become safer.

>>34714253
>Better than having easy access for any moron to have one at any rate.

I agree with this. Their is some really stupid fucking people in the world.

>>34714291
If those are the words of author c clark, counter points have already been argued and are far superior.
In short, Clark is a retard.

Guys! Never believe 2nd hand sources on scientific papers, especially not from newspapers of any kind. Always read the original papers:

http://rechten.uvt.nl/ICVS/

e.g. http://rechten.uvt.nl/icvs/pdffiles/ICVS2004_05.pdf

>>34714291
>if he's standing far away from you

RUN FOREST RUUNNN!

>>34714261

>Because America is the only country that matters. You'd think so too if you lived here.

Oh America...sometimes I look forward to China fucking you in the ass and the stark realisation that you burned all your bridges to the rest of the world.

>>34714291
I'd rather remove the " those who would do so ", because this damn nagging about guns is making me hunt with wire traps instead.

A strangled stressed cut-up bunny doesn't taste half as good.

>>34714351
>implying a squabble between two fat idiots on the internet counts as burning a bridge between to super powers
>my face

Guns should never be made legal in the UK.

Ever.

I for one quite like the fact that a chav actually has to get in close range of me to stab me, rather than pop me from a distance with a Tec9.

>>34714027

Just like all those knuckle-dragging, inbred redneck Fux News watchers in the US who believe that there's now 'Sharia Law' here in the UK, as we have Muslim immigrants.

There's far more Muslim immigrants in the US than over here. Do YOU have Sharia Law?

If you can answer the only way you can, you've just destroyed your argument, racists.

But then you don't know about our pro-government Muslim Council of Great Britain; they ensure that 'Sharia Law' will never exist here.

>>34714365

>to

>>34714372
If you know chavs, please just curbstomp them to death. Niggerican culture should be snuffed out.

>>34714351
Everyone hates white people. Like it or not, each other is all we have baby..now come over here grab some of my juicy cellulite ass, and kiss me.

>>34714385
Yeaah I noticed that also..forgot the w..crucify me for it, you creepy looking cat.

I also made a few grammatical errors when I was using the words their, and there. Where were you when I REALLY NEED YOU MAN? WHERE WERE YOU..I THOUGHT WE ARE BROS

>>34714404
>imokaywiththis.jpg

So does this thread contain happy Limes?

>>34714328

>Clark is a retard.

Next time you make a long-distance phone call, you have him to thank. As far back as 1945, he thought up the concept of devices placed in geosynchronous orbit, to relay radio transmissions to other parts of the world. When Telstar was first developed in 1962, who did they recruit as the project's technical advisor?:

Arthur C. Clarke.

Your call, troll.

>>34714380
wait, what?..I don't know a single person that truly believes you guys are under shierairia law, or whatever..don't be silly. The streets would be soaked in blood if that happened..or at least I would hope so..

>>34714437

IM SORRY MAN, IM SORRY.

WE STILL BROS?

>>34714372
This. Gun ownership is legal in the UK, it's just heavily controlled. Take away those restrictions and every skin-head, chav and paranoid moron could get one. Fuck that shit.

>>34714372
Chavs are nothing but high school brats. Grow the fuck up and stop being afraid of faggots that can't even get muscles on their scrawny body.
A chav couldn't stand up to a drug dealer around here.
You cowardly fucking pansy.

>>34714404

>If you know chavs, please just curbstomp them to death.

Their skulls are far too thick and heads far too meaty for this to have any effect.

>>34714459
Welp you got me there, however.

>implying

Sorry UK, your freedom of speech(and freedom in general) is just another political bargaining point. Enjoy losing it whenever it's convenient for a politician.

>Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

>>34714475
OH U BET MAN

>>34714457
sauce

>>34714328

>counter points have already been argued and are far superior

>>34714473

Believe me when I say that if that ever happened, Britain would go Muslim hunting.

The streets would run red alright.

>>34714504

>freedom

Define this word amerifag, i've never seen it done yet.

Why don't you go form your own political party, try running for president, do you have the freedom to do that?

>Go to the Queen or the Parliment or whoever is in charge

This is about as useful an idea as suggesting to an American that he should walk into the White House and explain his problems directly to Obama.

>>34714536
Yeah, we just don't have the money.

>>34714457
I can't believe how long it took me to work out what that was.
And I'm still going to jail.

>>34714486

Lol let me guess, you live in some shitty country village where all the 14 yeal olds hang out on bikes and spit at old people, right?

>>34714519
I have no problem with this. A penis can't defend you.
A big gun can.
Dead people don't get to add themselves to the genetic gene pool. Alive people do.

"Burned its bridges."

...really? So, you're no longer buying stuff from us? Selling stuff to us?

Oh, you're still gonna do that, but just talk smack about us? We're fine with that.

That's the funny thing about the U.S. We're built on pride and self-hatred. Hate us all you want. It just makes us stronger.

Also, wasn't "China doing us in the ass" economically what the European Union and the Euro was supposed to do?

Yeah, how's that going?

>>34714504

>your freedom of speech(and freedom in general) is just another political bargaining point. Enjoy losing it whenever it's convenient for a politician.
>Enjoy losing it whenever it's convenient for a politician.
>whenever it's convenient for a politician.
>a politician

Can you say 'Patriot Act', kiddies?

>>34714536
>Why don't you go form your own political party, try running for president, do you have the freedom to do that?
Yes, actually.

>>34714536
Of course we have the freedom to do that. Hell, anyone can run for president provided they were born here. And tons do, too. They just don't get enough votes to make it any higher, usually due to lack of advertising funds.

>>34714546

Good thing we don't have that problem in the UK.

>>34714557
Nah, dude, I live in New York.

>>34714536
Actually we do.

Problem?

>>34714569

How's the dollar and your own financial chaos faring?

>>34714589
Because you can't form political parties regardless of your wealth...?

>>34714557

I doubt he's even english, no one calls it a fucking highschool around here, highschools in england tend to be private paid education schools.

Even still chavs on thier own are small time, its when they hang about in groups of up to 30 that they're a pain in the arse, even then the worst i've ever had is abuse shouted at me.

>>34714617
We won't know yet till everyone else around has collapsed first.

If the Patriot Act had actually DONE anything, don't you think the media would be on it with gusto?

Also, Bush is no longer president, people. It's funny how most of the stuff people demanded he stop doing or change isn't challenged as long as Obama is doing it.

>>34714486
Tell that to pensioners who get stabbed for their wallet by fucking 15 year olds, moron. A weapon is a weapon, it doesn't magically become less dangerous in the hands of a child. And assuming that chavs are just kids is stupid anyway, they may have the mental capacity of a child, but they're sill adults.

Does this mean that the UK will now have to burn all the naked cherub paintings in their art galleries?

>>34714569

>So, you're no longer buying stuff from us? Selling stuff to us?

More than you can imagine. And that's the problem. For you Americans, at least.

I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords. Better start learning Mandarin. And Atheism, USA.

Where is your God now?

>>34714617
How's the fact that the majority of the world's economic stability was founded on ours to the point where, when we fell, everyone else fell too?

>>34714638
>BUT THEIR HURTING THE OLD PEOPLE
Then smack them across the face and tell them go back in school, dumbass.

>>34714573
Bro that picture should be of Obama since he signed a 1 year extension on it.

>>34714665
Id' like to see them try that.
America doesn't really have to go to war with china.
Just let the enemy try and invade us.
We have guns and rifles behind nearly every single door. It would be about as stupid as the "war on terror" right now.

"Financial chaos." It'll sort itself out. Basically people were loaning money to people who couldn't pay it back. And then people were backing those people up. There not being money to loan to morons means that social darwinism will weed out said morons.

This thread ceased being /a/ related a short way in...

>>34714701
This isn't 60 years ago, bro.

>>34714737
There ya go.

Thread continued.

>>34714678
I think you need to meditate on your use of the word "stability" in the context.

>>34714701

>Implying that if there was another war in this day and age there would be any need for firearms.

>>34714746
I'm not even sure what this is supposed to mean..
Obama started a firestorm when he got elected. Most places ran out of ammo the very same week he was elected cause he talked about gun control. Trust me, this beast still have plenty of fire power.

>>34714617

>How's the dollar and your own financial chaos faring?

Indeed. Who was buying up their debts? And was loaning USA £1.5-2 billion a day just to keep their economy afloat (and this way before Obama was elected)?

Like I say, I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords. Enjoy your new 'No.2' status in the world, USA.

>>34714775
>implying we don't have a laser beam designed for destroying missiles in flight

>>34714806

You've obviously never heard of nuclear subs have you.

>>34714804
>Enjoy your new 'No.2' status in the world, USA.

That's fine.

It's only rednecks and Japanese who get upset at this.

China becoming an economic superpower? Faster, please.

They're still trying to censor everyone's internet over there. In order to become powerful enough and fast enough to adapt business-wise, the social changes required to keep up with technology will rip apart their antiquated government.

China, have fun having a population who suddenly can DO things with the power you have to give them in order to "challenge" the global economy.

>>34714678
Smack a bunch of kids armed with knives? Your logic is infallible, sir, thank god you're here to save Britain from its social turmoil. Whatever could we do without you?