it's still ok to watch unlicensed anime right?

>>32679728
for now. don't worry though, all they have to do is suspect you of watching licensed anime, even if it really isn't, and they'll bust down your door and take away your computer.

>>32679728
Actually, that's always been illegal, just sort of unenforcable due to, you know, oceans.
But Japan could really make tons of money looking at some torrents and tracking the IPs down.

>>32679680
>FB faggots scream bloody murder when you screw with their privacy.

Are you implying they haven't consented to giving every info and pictures they put up there for the company that runs Facebook by registering.

I feel like eating mochi now...

>>32679680
>>32679680
read the title head, "no more anime, manga. wat, i buy my anime and manga wft are you talking about?

Remember guys, both Obama and Biden regularly suck off the RIAA, MPAA, and generally any other copyrightfags.

If you voted from them, it's your fault.

Meh, shit won't pass in the US, I'm not very concerned yet.

Then I'll just have to move to Japan

>>32680162

>implying any of the other parties running were any better in that regard

>>32680169
Guess who initiated ACTA.
Then say again where it won't pass.
Also this is an international treaty. It doesn't get passed anywhere, it's simply signed by the government.

Oh no, I'll have to buy my animes now what will I do

Don't worry guys, it won't last too long. In a matter of years the US will be completely bankrupt. It won't be able to enforce any of this shit.

>>32680236
Even if that was the answer, how many titles are actually licensed for distribution each year? Very little.

Its over 4chan is finished.
Its been a fun 8 years.

pirate fags sure got told

>>32680272
i am okay with this.jpg

tl;dr?

>>32680284

I don't really care, as long as I can still buy my Yotsuba mangas.

>>32680284
That would probably change if there were more buyfags. back in the anime boom there was fuck tons of anime coming out all the time. But that bubble burst and now it's just Funimation doing everything. The market could be revived with more buyers though.

Don't worry guys, we still have lots of great sources for anime, such as Crunchyroll and Funimation. God bless them!

>>32680382

Speaking of Funimation... I just preordered 3 copies of Strike Witches.

So there won't be anyone to send C&D letters to fansubbers/scanlators? FUCK YEAH!

Feels good to be English

>>32680382
I don't mind Funi, as they actually release their shit.

I hate Crunchyroll because they license their anime, and then proceed to make you pay for inferior quality.

>>32680284
funimation surprisingly is licensing shit i thought that I would never see in the states even so I will just "buy" what is licensed and move on, for fucks sakes I do have over 600 gigs of fansubbed anime, it's not like there is any good coming out anymore.

Every year theres always news about this.

Nothing happens.

>>32680450
>>cr "low quality" wat?
you need a new video card or something i can watch 720p streams just fine.

This is the kind of shit that sometimes scares me a bit.
No more anime, seriously.
They do their negotiations in complete privacy so who knows what they fuck they are talking about and if it does pass as an international treaty then its more likely that many countries will join it.
Call it international peer pressure but they love signing those fucking things.

Some countries already have that system, the ISPs track everything you do and you get random people knocking at your door with no warning.
This could be the end of everything.

Of course most people would be against something like this if they knew what it is so maybe its about time those fucking social network sites do something useful and spread the word.

>>32680508
A stream will never be as good as a downloaded anime.

>>32680569
It will when internet connection gets fasters than a hard drive.

>>32680230
Not true in the U.S. In order for a treaty to have force in the U.S., it must be ratified by the Senate, which requires a 2/3 majority. The president can enter into "executive agreements" without involving Congress, however such agreements can be revoked at any time, AND cannot impose measures that would require statutory changes. In the case of ACTA, most of the problematic provisions would require such changes to have any force.

The real idea behind ACTA seems to be to impose laws analogous to the DMCA (or even tougher) around the world, even though the administration knows it probably can't get most of the tougher anti-piracy measures enacted domestically (some of them, such as warrant-less searches, would even be unconstitutional). Many countries, including Japan and some EU members, are still fighting this, though.

Don't worry, it won't happen in case it does, i can always depend on spanish fansubs, something like this would never pass in latin america, at a least not in 50 years.

>>32680569
>>implying that care about a few hundred pixles

>>32680628
God bless our drug, poverty and hunger problems that distract our politicians from the more serious issues of copyrights.

I wonder how this will affect doujins

>>32680742
FFFFFFFFUUUUUUU
oh wait i am sure japan will not give a shit, I hope not anyways

>FB faggots scream bloody murder when you screw with their privacy
>sign up to FB
>expect privacy

Is everyone on that site that retarded?

>>32680786
Its an international treaty.
Every country signs it, you sign it too.
And I'd guess that doujins owned by corporations would fall under the same issues as anime.

>>32680806

You have to ask?

>>32679680

Good. I am 100% sincerely awesome with this. And you are a bitch-ass.

Oh look, another retarded plan to stop piracy that'll never work.

N-....NO MORE M-...M-...MOE AND HIGH SCHOOL HAREEEEMMMMMMMS????

>>32680820
well that's the good thing, most are just fan comics made by small groups "for the fans".

>>32680806
FB is one of the most private social networks around.
You can tweak a lot of shit to make yourself invisible. That is one of the reasons it has been so successful.
Some people enjoy being the focus of attention, others don't and just want to stalk.

I'd still say that this could become big with enough viral campaigning, most people will just accept anything any friend invite and any group invite.

>>32680742
Probably not much. Fanfic doujinshi (and garage kits, and all kinds of other unlicensed merch) are technically illegal even now, but the rights-holders usually look the other way (in part because they tend to see it as free advertising, and in part because so many of the pros got their start that way themselves).

>>32680902
If those fan comics contain characters from corporate owned comics, or even characters that slightly resemble them, or a story that's similar to the story of a corporate comic, they can blame the author of infringing their precious copyright.
And with ACTA in effect, blaming someone is enough to invoke three strikes.

>>32679680
FUCK ACTA

WHATS FUNNY IS THAT AVATAR MR BEAN CAN GET A MILLION MEMBERS IN A WEEK BUT THIS WONT GET 10,000 IN A MONTH

I hope it passes just to spite faggoty [a/ babies

>>32680272

Pic related

>>32681003
Throught the ACTA could someone not directly related to the owners of the violated copyrights still get them in trouble?

Most of the time doujins are good for the manga/anime/whatever so the studios themselves won't mess with them.

>>32681003
>three-stikes
Three-strikes isn't going to happen. The EU is dead-set against it, and, as presently envisioned, it would be unconstitutional in the U.S.

>>32680975
i know that clamp was just a doujin group in the beginning and so was ken akamatsu

>>32681086
you could make up your own copyright violations to get people in trouble

you arent required to present any proof to the ISPs

>>32681149
way to many companies would loose money because there would be no one left on the net.

They can't police the internet anyway, you need to spend a ridiculous amount of manpower and money to achieve internet policing. So much so real policing would probably take a dive.

The internet is too large, take down one website, another appears. The cycle continues, piracy flourishes, the average paying consumer loses out once more.

>>32681149
Most anti terror laws are unconstitutional as well, but they still exist.

>>32681181
And GAINAX started the same way, which is why they have always had a very liberal policy towards garage kits and other unlicensed derivative works.

>>32681233
well they only affect Muslims and niggers, that's not really a bad thing you know.

>>32681220
They'll let the ISPs do the dirty work. ACTA makes them responsible for what their customers do, so they can't do anything else. (You may call it blackmail)

Every single connection will run through a filter.

>>32681256
well here is a thinker, how many eva doujins are out there? i mean over 15 years since the series 1st came out and there is still porn of it being made.

>>32681233
They exist because, for the most part, they haven't been stupid enough to try to enforce them against U.S. citizens. As soon as they do, and someone actually fights them through the court system, any that are unconstitutional will be voided.

>>32679680
--Implying Global resolutions are ever ratified Nationally.

Shit's unconstitutional, lol

>>32681263
ACTA only affects internet usres. That's not a bad thing, you know?

>>32681256
>And GAINAX started the same way
Best doujinshi anime evar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyVqIkJ69VA

>>32681315
MAYBE BECAUSE GAINAX ARE STILL MILKING EVA?

So many Mari fucking doujins.

>>32681334
You didn't think that out very much, did you?
Almost everyone in the first world uses the internet.

That's why im download everything that could be interesting, so when they lock up the internet I'll have everything downloaded already.

>100 watched series
>400 downloaded series
>2TB downloaded

>>32681374
theres also some arguable statistics that about 95% of ipod owners have songs that violate copyright on them

so if you hadnt already realised, we are talking a huge number of people who may not even be aware they are violating copyrights who will start getting these notices and internet bans

>>32681329
No, wait. I'm wrong. It's so unconstitutional it'd cause rioting and revolt. Holy shit this argument is bullshit on all levels.

Even if this ever comes to be, nobody is going to fucking care because you cannot legally do shit like this, and nobody would allow it to be legal in the US without civil unrest.

There's no real point in fighting this battle. As shown by previous copyright laws in other countries, the people in charge don't give a fuck about what citizens want, they don't even give a fuck about what most large companies want, they only listen to the organisations that claim to represent "Creative industries", and believe everyone else knows too little about the issue to put forth a valid argument. That's why this is dangerous, and that's why we will be totally unable to fight against it.

>>32681291
The ISPs don't want that responsibility, and can't afford to have it thrust on them. From a practical standpoint, they can't police the Internet anymore than the government can. That's the number one reason why this won't get through the Senate.

>Every single connection will run through a filter.
Filtering out WHAT, pray tell? Piracy is a moving target. The filters would have to be constantly updated which the ISPs don't have the manpower to do, and would become a HUGE bottleneck, driving up costs. If they could do this, they would already be doing it to block CP. They aren't doing it because the ISPs have told the government, multiple times, that it's simply not feasible.

You know how impossibly difficult it is to pass something on a global scale? Not to mention, if it does pass, what are the chances of people actually enforcing it? There is too much manpower required to regulate the world's internet for any national or international police body to handle. It'll be left to ISPs that don't give a fuck what you download as long as you're paying for their service. If ISPs did give a shit about any currently-existing copyright laws, we would have been fucked long ago.

>>32681549
simple. Filter http://*

If this goes through it will just push people to use VPNs more.

No matter what bullshit certain governments (Specifically Australia's) want you to believe, there isn't a way for them to create a firewall that can completely block VPNs.

>>32681327
At least in the U.S., they HAVE TO BE, or else they have no legal weight. Our constitution specifically requires that.

Article II, §2, Clause 2:
He [the president] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur...

Hey guys, lady gaga needs that extra million dollars.

>>32681605
we are living in the end times, one world government, no more freedom, we will die a horrible death etc. Do i need to take off my tin foil hat yet?

>>32681751

Take it off and use it to freebase some lithium

>>32681690
And don't forget that Congress has to pass legislation to actually implement the treaty.

>>32681751
Not quite yet, it's looking more and more like there will end up being two major world governments, EU+America+G8 countries not fitting these categories in one group, and everyone else in another.

>>32681549
There's simple filters that can do the job.

1. Just have a whitelist of addresses which are allowed to use encryption. Filter out every other encrypted traffic.

2. Have strict rules on domain registrations (require real dox for domain registration etc.), filter out any domain region that doesn't have this kind of rules.

3. Prevent private customers from running any server.

4. Filter out any traffic that's known for containing incriminated content (e.g. torrent and other filesharing protocols)

It's not that hard to implement this for every customer.