What should I use then?

>Implying it matters anymore on my PC

>>32577991

this. I'm currently using CCCP with CoreAVC, I don't see any big problems.

>>32577991

Get the latest MPC-HC and ffdshow-tryouts of course. The FFMPEG decoder in them is up to date compared to the obsolete one in CCCP..

CCCP has been irrelevant for some time now.

Nobody wants to admit it though.

MPCHC + Haali + CoreAVC is the way to go.

Who the fuck doesn't use CoreAVC for decoding G.264

>>32578070
Enjoy your broken weightp.

http://www.ggkthx.org/2009/11/11/announcement-latest-x264-build-fucks-with-coreavc/

>>32577915
Go back to your real player and xvid shit since you refuse to use newer technology.

>>32578087
U MAD? Everyone uses the latest MPC-HC and ffdshow-tryouts with extra 20% decoding performance.

smplayer+coreavc
why use anything else

>>32578083

CoreAVC 2.0 has no such problems.

>>32578144
It will have problems when new x264 features are added. It already broke with weightp, can't wait to see more bustages in the future. CoreAVC is shit and you know it.

>>32578083
That's been fixed for months.

oh i get it, op is trollan

they'll probably break something on purpose just to make the suckers who pay for it pay again, like when they broke weighttp even though i remember the threads about gg breaking coreavc stating that feature apparently does nothing besides break pre-coreavc2.

Legit question here. I have a relatively new computer (assembled in June of last year). I can play 1080p H.264 files without any playback/sync problems. What good is 20% better performance in decoding video if my computer is already decoding it more than fast enough?

hint: the hardware rendering on the HD series of ATI is better than ffdshow, so only 20% increase doesnt mean anything.

>>32578187
20% reduction in CPU usage is significant.

>>32578187

You never know when you'll manage to run into some processor intensive shit and you don't want sudden stuttery playback to break your immersion in whatever you're playing.

>>32578207
LOL ATI can't even decode L5.1 and a lot of anime encoders like to use L5.1 16 reference frames.

>Get the latest MPC-HC and ffdshow-tryouts of course.
BULLSHIT. The last time I uninstalled CCCP, installed these, nothing worked.
Write a step by step guide or don't expect anyone to leave CCCP. CCCP was made for people who don't know how to do jack shit.

>>32578248
>He still uses CCCP

So what I need to download for this extra 20%?

Currently I'm using CoreAVC 2.0 + CCCP + MPCHC

>>32578272
>He's too elitist to write a simple guide.

>>32578244
I have never had a problem up to now, and the CPU usage reduction is 30-40%

btw, as I am a noob, can you tell me what L5.1 is?

>>32578272
>greentextgreentextgreentext

>>32578237
>>32578217

I've got a quad core processor (as do many people these days). The only time I've ever maxed out all 4 cores at the same time for an amount of time I could perceive was when I ran core damage to see how hot I could get them. 720p H.264 videos typically make my processor usage hover between 10% and 40%. I pretty much always do several things on my computer while watching anime. In the last 10 months nothing has caused my playback to be stutter. OP may have a point for ancient computers, but for even a half decent computer this seems silly and moot.

>>32578341
oh god, level 5.1 of h264 of course. stupid me.

saying it again: never had problems up to now.

So, any comparison between coreavc and this new ffdshow ?

>>32578244
>LOL ATI can't even decode L5.1 and a lot of anime encoders like to use L5.1 16 reference frames.

Hi 16refs fag! I see you're still living in your Reality Distortion Field.

I use Zoom + ffdshow

The best

>>32578274
If you're using CoreAVC's CPU decoding it's still faster than what that 20% gain would get you, most likely.

>>32577915

>implying that performance boost matters on my core i7 920

>>32578411
Oh, it's Daiz faggot, the luser that still in his own reality distortion field and says BSS doesn't encode in 16 reference frames.

>>32578274

>>32578390
>OP may have a point for ancient computers, but for even a half decent computer this seems silly and moot.

Activate it.

>>32578411
> Daiz !H.264BdrFs
ABANDON THREAD

Lol @ poorfags who can't afford a dual core for 50$.

I pity you, hobos.

Why should I download something that isn't one-click install when I watch anime like once a year?

>>32578437
The only encoder in BSS to do that is skystrife, and he said that he's only only using 16 refs on DtB anymore since he started to do it with them. Other than that, he said he'd switch to 15 refs for CoreAVC CUDA compatibility.

So with that there'd be basically no-one who'd make 16ref HD encodes anymore.

http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic-home-cinema-x86-x64/media-player-classic-homecinema-x86
-x64-svn-1764.html

http://www.xvidvideo.ru/ffdshow-tryouts-project-x86-x64/ffdshow-tryouts-project-svn-3334-x86-x64.htm
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Latest MPC-HC and ffdshow-tryouts, enjoy 20% faster decoding over obsolete, outdated software.

Daiz stop using Haali Renderer you're killing anime.

>>32578464
So I uninstall CCCP. Install these. THEN WHAT? IT WON'T WORK.

>>32578390
10%-40%?
on my dual core the only things that get above 40% are music videos

and you know what does nostromo's AMVs and Skittles look like.

>>32578456
Fuck your dual core, I've had a quad core for over a year.

Yeah, the latest CCCP update was like in 2009 something.

What's up with them?

>>32578472
Why should I? It works perfectly for me, and it's not like I'm recommending it alone for everyone else.

>http://www.xvidvideo.ru/ffdshow-tryouts-project-x86-x64/ffdshow-tryouts-project-svn-3334-x86-x64
.html

Does this have DXVA decoding? If yes, then I'll be testing this out to see how it fares.

> Daiz !H.264BdrFs

The cancer killing my [a/

>>32578511
>diaz

well shit.

>>32578503
Simple, they're lazy and they are unwilling to keep up with the times.

>>32578244
>L5.1 16 reference frames
can somebody give me an example show, encoded like this? I want to try it out

>>32578501
Fuck your quad core, I've been using quincore for a year.

>>32578511
>Why should I?
Its Resizer is equivilant to EVR Custom's "Nearest Neighbor" Resizer (a piece of shit). If you want a real Resizer you use EVR's Bicubic.

The Resizer is probably the only reason (and a good fucking reason) not to use Haali Renderer.

>>32578603
Fuck your quincore, I bought a Alienware with an i7.
It's got a motherfucking heptacore.

>>32578488
The processor usage graph on the task manager jumps around a lot between 10% and 40% with MPC running. I'm sure there's ways to more accurately observe how much processor time MPC is using but it's never been an issue so I've never investigated it more than that.

sup /g/

>>32578629
Fuck you i7, I got an octacore.

>>32578625
>Its Resizer is equivilant to EVR Custom's "Nearest Neighbor" Resizer (a piece of shit). If you want a real Resizer you use EVR's Bicubic.

whatthefuckamIreading.tiff

Haali uses Bicubic interpolation for scaling, not fucking Nearest Neighbor. Do you honestly I wouldn't notice the difference? You'd have to be blind not to.

Also, so far ffdshow-DXVA seems to disable external VSFilter completely... if this is really the case then it's as good as useless for the time being.

>>32578438

>>32578716
The internal sub renderer is better anyway than blurry VSFilter crap.

I like Daiz, he atleast knows what he is talking about. Can't say that for most of you faggots here

>>32578716
>Also, so far ffdshow-DXVA seems to disable external VSFilter completely... if this is really the case then it's as good as useless for the time being.

Nevermind this, looks like the filter just didn't re-register properly when uninstalling / re-installing CCCP without ffdshow. Re-registering it solved that.

A bigger problem seems to be that MPC-HC refuses to open BSS's DtB encodes.

So like, you install CCCP once and you have everything you need to watch everything.

Everything works fine.

Why do I need to bother trying anything else?

What exactly is the problem here?

No one has been able to suggest anything else as simple and better in this thread thus far.

>>32578464
just dled ffdshow, and now my mpc-hc won't show subs for .h264 files... help plz

>>32578650
well, kinda makes sense... random jumps to 40% are ok, for me it doesnt jump that much, but 1080p acts in the way you described between 50% and 80%...

>>32578578
still want an example of L5.1 16 reference frames

>>32578774
U MAD? Daiz faggot doesn't know anything, he still thinks there's no 16 reference frames encodes.

>>32578818
no, Iam not mad, but U STUPID

>>32578838
U MAD?

CCCP Beta+MPC-HC latest build+CoreAVC+ Haali (Optional in case Subs don't display well depending on the encoding of a particualar episode)

I've yet to see something as good as that combo.

>This is why you should not use CCCP. It's outdated
OK, but after uninstalling what should you take instead?

>>32578886
The latest MPC-HC and ffdshow-tryouts of course.

>>32578893
i just did that, but subs won't show up anymore

>>32578904
oh boy...

why should i not use cccp? someone explain in dumbass terms.

which subs aren't showing up correctly?

>>32578716
>Haali uses Bicubic interpolation for scaling, not fucking Nearest Neighbor.
Yeah, I didn't know what Haali Renderer uses (it doesn't say in MPC), I only knew that it looked very similar to Nearest Neighbor.
My point is that Bicubic interpolation looks like shit and EVR's "Bicubic whatever" looks visually superior.

>>32578716
I'm guessing he has an ATI video card, as certain ATI video cards have a hilariously buggy pixel shader implementation that makes Haali's renderer look terrible.

>>32578944

No real reason, if it works for you stick with it.

My computer isn't from the stone age. I've got a Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 and can run 1080p videos just fine. I do it all the time.

Using cccp + MPC-HC. I was using CoreAVC at one point but that fucked up when something happened with h.264, so I uninstalled it.

Why fix what's not broken?

>>32578818
There's plenty SD encodes with 16 refs, but like said, for HD H.264 encodes out there, 16 refs are used on probably 0.1% of them, and most who have used 16 refs on HD stuff has stopped doing so.

Also, just FYI, CoreAVC CUDA decodes 16ref encodes just fine nowadays. So 16 refs isn't any kind of issue on that end.

In other news, ffdshow's DXVA decoder works fabulously. Postprocessing and VSFilter all works like a dream. 16 ref encodes decode just fine with it too. ATI cards will probably fuck things up though, since they have inferior decoding hardware.

Anyway, currently speaking to the CCCP staff about updating CCCP soon due to this.

Either way, as of now I'll probably continue suggesting CCCP+CoreAVC for GPU H.264 decoding, since it's easier to set up for the average user. Plus that way you'll get working GPU decoding on XP too, since IIRC DXVAv2 is limited to NT6.

>>32578625

>>32579123
>IIRC DXVAv2 is limited to NT6.

Just checked and this is indeed the case. Thus CoreAVC CUDA will be a better overall solution for GPU H.264 decoding, since it'll work in XP too.

Though getting ffdshow-DXVA to CCCP will obviously still be beneficial for everyone using a modern OS.

>>32579123
>Anyway, currently speaking to the CCCP staff about updating CCCP soon due to this.

U MAD? Those lazy bastards haven't even updated since Sept 2009.

>>32579123
can you give me an example encode that will probably fuck up ATI's hardware decoding? I want to try it out.

And people always mocked me when I told them CCCP has ancient builds of ffdshow. Stop using this garbage.

>>32579266
Why would I be mad? There's been no real reason to update a stable working playback solution. A major new feature like this would be a good reason to update. Though obviously it'll have to be throughoutly tested first so that shit won't suddenly start breaking.

>>32579328
Wrong, there is plenty of reasons to update, especially since it fixes the slow seeking bug. Typical Daiz, denier of anything.

>>32579288
What card do you exactly have? In any case, you should try BSS's Darker than Black S2 BD encodes. They use 16 reference frames and weightp, which should break ATI's playback quite specularly.

OP, i have an oc'd i7 920, should this concern me?

How good is VDPAU's scaling?

What's the best mplayer -vo gl mode for upscaling?

k so has anyone compared the new ffdshow to coreavc?

>>32579346
I'd still like to hear what exactly IS the slow seeking bug and how to replicate it. I've asked about this multiple times but you've never answered. Google isn't exactly being helpful either.

I've said for years cccp is outdated broken shit that nobody should be using.

It's not even a fucking codec pack, they just cal it that so retards don't get confused.

assemble shit yourself or use VLC. At least VLC doesn't come with anime monitoring spyware.

>>32578016

>>32579328
This coming from the faggot who uses any excuse to use the latest x264 revs, even if 99% of computers can't even play back what gets encoded.

>>32579394
>VLC