>high tier: happily ever after
what are you 12?

>>32404952
No, I'm just not a butthurt emo 16-year-old like yourself, who thinks sad endings are cool.

Because there was no such thing as tragedies before 200 years ago. Wat?

>>32405025
ranking them in the first place was the stupid idea, faggot

0/10

worst offender

Harem ending is the only god tier ending

>childish endings in anime made for children is BAAAAAAAAD

Fucking sage. If you can't realize that all the garbage tier ending are from shows made for 13 year olds and deal with it, stop watching anime.

/a/ will never agree with this. There are too many grimdark "mature for a mature person such as myself" seinenfags lurking around.

So you rank an ending's quality by how happy it is?

What a stupid idea.

>>32405194
Reading comprehension - you lack it.

This is fair. Sad endings aren't inherently bad, as long as they're a logical extension of the plot, and fit the overall feeling of the series. Pic related.

Forced bad endings are retarded, but still not worse than artsy non-endings.

>>32405226
>Happily ever after ending - high tier

You lack comprehension in general.

>tragic endings are recent
>What is Greece?
>What is Shakespeare?

>>32405352
>hurrf durrf it's cool when the boy and girl don't get together
go masturbate your 2" penis to some ntr, faggot

>>32405105
/r/ an actual harem ending that isn't 'lol we all are friends now' or 'lol i can't decide between them' or 'ambiguous'
>>32404900
eh, "fits tone of story" is how every story should end, a story should have a focus (from the author's pov), it should commit to the focus, if it's straying, erring, doing bullshit, then it sucks, everything below godtier is pointless ranking because a bad ending could make a story a masterpiece

This is why I stopped watching harems, and why I despise the "love triangle" element. Most authors pussy out and either have the protagonist choose "both" or not choose at all so that they don't piss off the shippers.

>>32405371
Walk down to the grocery store. Go to the card aisle. Find the book section. See all those bathroom novels? Do you think that anyone will remember any of those in 200 years?

Fiction has always been overrun with cheese and happy endings. It's just that we only remember the ones with tragic endings, because those are considered to be the pinnacle of literary merit (which they usually are). Make no mistake, though - there were plenty of happy stories going around in Shakespeare's time.

Don't like bad endings? Get up and do something about it then.

>>32405439
the love triangle tale is destined to end with 'none' or 'ambiguous', especially with anime, anything else isn't a love triangle

>>32405194

If it fits the tone, fine.

It it's out of left field, no.

Ending gantz with a downer ending is fitting. Ending K-On with a downer is not.

>>32405422
It's not that simple. You can have a story where the main character gets crapped on every second. That doesn't mean that the ending should just be the status quo. There's such a thing as victory through hardship.

>>32405462
There are a number of books (lol shakespeare) which are remembered for their positive endings.

Tragedy reminds us to sympathize with our fellow man, that's the only thing that would make it inherently "better". Happy ending stories are usually gratuitous and un-illuminating.

GOD TIER:
Well written endings

SHIT TIER:
Badly written endings

agree y/n?

You do realize that hating on the dark and emo stereotypes makes you a stereotype too.

>>32405462
NOT THE FUCKING POINT

It says that the realist movement started a fad of tragic endings when greek tragedy is pretty much the basis of fiction as we know it. Google the elements of Greek tragedy and try to find even a SITCOM that doesn't follow them.

>>32405439

I can think of only one show where the main chose both.

>>32405462

>implying tragic endings make a good story

I don't know where to begin. I know! Let's start with the fucking Odyssey. That was so sad. No, it wasn't you tard. Catch 22? War and Peace? Huck Finn? These had appropriate endings.

All quiet on the western front, Romeo and Juliet, the endings fit the tone.

>HIGH TIER
>HAPPILY EVER AFTER

This seems right. Bad ending should be in the garbage tier.

>>32405509
If the tone is "victory through hardship" and the story ends with "victory through hardship" then yes, you're right, it's probably a good story. if the tone is "victory through hardship" and the hero gets super sayan and hyperbolic time chamber and wtfpwns Freeza in the first panel, then it's no longer about hardship, it's just a gratuitous powertrip story and likely poorly written.

>>32405545
>GOD TIER: My opinion
>SHIT TIER: Your opinion

>>32405561
>the oddessy

Did you not finish that one?

>>32405525
>Happy ending stories are usually gratuitous and un-illuminating.
It's not that I don't agree, it's that the opposite is also true. Sad ending stories are usually pretentious and unrealistic.

The greatest novels in history have pretty much almost all been the ones with bad endings, but that's usually just because those are protest novels that deal with a specific time in history. And it doesn't mean that attaching a sad ending on to your story makes it deep.

Hi guys, are we talking about good endings?

Of course not.

>>32405561
>Implying odyssey was a sad ending

>OP implying that Cowboy Bebop, Wolf's Rain, and EoE suck because they have bad ratings

Just for that I'm reporting this motherfucker.

>>32405631
>oddessy
>odd
>ess
Apparently, neither did you.

>>32405559
futakoi?

. . .

is that about dickgirls?

>>32405638
the key word is 'usual' I wasn't trying to make a catch all statement, there are stories with positive endings that are meaningful

the point is the tone - the tone, the op is right for godtier, the rest is bs

If the story starts grimdark, it can shift its tone, but once it gets about halfway, there should be a clear tone to the story, and that tone should carry it through to the end which, with foreshadowing can be totally unexpected, but fitting.

>>32405699
Mock the spelling ignore the point, eh?
>>32405648
Odysseus can't go home at the end. It's definitely not happy.

>>32405669
bebop's ending and eva's ending both fit the tone of the story

the point is that we have a bunch of happy, lighthearted romance and/or comedy and/or action anime that end with these abrupt sad endings. it's a retarded trend going on in Japan that needs to stop.

>>32405700
双恋, lit. "Twin Love"

>People live better than any generation before them,
>!
>with food,
>Famine at an all time high
>medicine,
>AIDS is still high, swine flu just kicked in yo!
>entertainment,
>Entertainment industry at an all time low
>shelter,
>People are still homeless, at an all time high!
>transportation,
>We now have cars that emit even more waste emissions, I don't even
>and a million other creature comforts.
>War, poverty, death,
>People have rights,
>Your rights, can go right up your ass as far as the government is concerned
>privileges,
>You have the privelege, to die quietly while the rich get richer
>and opportunities.
>About 80% of your classmates are unlikely to see a high paying job or get a promotion even after 50 years of loyal employment
>People are able to pursue their own happiness in life.
>That shit, is at your own cost, time and expense. Your boss isn't paying you for your happiness
>People fall in love,
>Rape at an all time high
>get married,
>Divorce at an all time high
>and raise families.
>Broken families at an...I think you get the point
>People die after rich, full lives,
>>People die, broke, hungry and writhing in pain. Have you seen the news?! There's war and poverty everywhere, even where it shouldn't be!
>looking at death with hope of the next life, and at the world they leave behind with great dreams of an even better future.
>We'll be lucky to make it past 2020
OP, you're the 3 Ds. Delusional, in denial or on drugs.

>>32405747
>Odysseus can't go home at the end. It's definitely not happy.
Wait, what? He made it home. He met his wife, she devised a way to see if he was the real Odysseus, then he kills all her suitors, if I recall correctly.

>>32405669

Cowboy Bebop didn't have a sad ending.

Spike was relieved from his past, Ed went to live with her family or something, and Jet got a new partner.

It was bittersweet maybe, but not sad.

>>32405747
Odysseus kills Penelope's suitors and gets to sex her, if I recall. I hardly remember that shit, but I don't remember it being a sad ending :/

>>32405779
Shut up! You should be grateful you're not going to die by the Black Plague by age 30.

You forgot a type of God Tier Ending.

>>32405813
Cowboy Bebop doesn't have a sad ending because Spike lives.

>>32405782
That's not the end. After Athena stops the suitor's fathers from killing Odysseus, he has to go wandering or some shit like that.

OP is throwing a lot of bullshit around, but he's right.

>>32405858
Like Spies

>>32405779

Pessimistic much?

>>32405779

Cites no sources. Prophesies doom in 10 years.

There is plenty of things wrong with the world and plenty to be unhappy about, but this anon is just fear-mongering.

>>32405825
>>32405782
THAT'S THE 22ND BOOK, THERE ARE 24

>>32405747
Odysseus gets home and is about to fuck everyone's shit up when Athena cockblocks him

>>32405861
>Now at last, Odysseus identifies himself to Penelope. She is hesitant, but accepts him when he mentions that their bed was made from an olive tree still rooted to the ground. Many modern and ancient scholars take this to be the original ending of the Odyssey, and the rest is an interpolation.
>Many modern and ancient scholars take this to be the original ending of the Odyssey, and the rest is an interpolation.
>original ending of the Odyssey

People suffer. If a story doesn't acknowledge this, it sucks. It can be humorous, uplifting, etc. but if the story lacks conflict and a cohesive, thought-out tone to that conflict, it will not be immersive, engaging or meaningful.

>>32405782
yeah, they challenged everyone to string Odysseus's giant bow and shoot throw like, 40 axeheads or something crazy like that. No one could even string the bow, until the real Odysseus, disguised as an old man with the help of, uh, Artemis? Yeah. And then he went GTA on the suitors. (massacred them, not stole their automobiles)

>>32405749
Congratulations Shinji fits EVA? Methinks not.

>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779
>>32405779

LOL! OK, now I know not to take anyone in this thread seriously. If you think life "back in the day" was so easy, get a plane ticket to Sudan taking nothing but the clothes on your back and live there for 5 years.

THEN come back and tell us that we aren't living pampered lifestyles in industrialized countries.

I wouldn't be surprised if OP based this on some literature paper her wrote for class.

>>32405025
>butthurt emo

You lost me with those two words kid.

God Tier

If the ending doesn't fit the tone of the story, then it's stupid and poorly written.

OP's god tier is correct, and the rest is unfortunately entirely dependent on what sort of endings you prefer, because it implies that the ending doesn't fit the tone of the story, which makes it retarded and out of place.

Obama steps on our rights, takes away our privileges to give to the undeserving, and removes the concept of "opportunity" from our economic system.

>>32405944
>wikipedia
>"many modern and ancient scholars"
LOOKS LEGIT TO ME

>>32405972
It kinda did, yeah.

>>32405749
eva was conjured up in 5 minutes, it was not a fitting ending

it was an escapist ending, the author didn't want to put the effort into making the ending meaningful or cohesive

>>32405995
It's not always black and white, crystal clear what kind of ending would be appropriate.

>>32406020
>it was an escapist ending, the author didn't want to put the effort into making the ending meaningful or cohesive

THEY FUCKING RAN OUT OF MONEY TO ANIMATE THE ENDING YOU STUPID CUNT

>>32405972

You missed the point of Evangelion then.

>>32404900
ha ha no

shitty OP post, shitty tier list.

Every ending can be great, it just has to be well executed.

>>32406020
I agree to some extent, but the whole story was surreal in the first place.

End of Evangelion is an improvement, at the very least.

>>32404900
>Bittersweet ending not on High tier.
>Mindrape on Mid while Bad is in Low and Happily Ever After in High.

>>32406020

> it was an escapist ending

What an ironic choice of words.

>>32406014
How does congratulations sum up and end a story about giant robots and aliens... It was a completely bizarre cop out ending, leaving us without a awesome final battle so that they can release more movies

>>32406055
The author himself said the ending was bullshit and a result of no budget. That's why End of Eva exists, dipshit.

>>32406004
>>32405935
>>32405861
It's not like he's doomed to wander forever, though. He just has another quest to perform.

>>32406043
To the author it should be crystal clear.
>>32406052
Don't care. They could have done a collection of stills to end it with a $1000 budget.

>mindrape and bittersweet ending not Above God Tier

>>32405886

Source? You want SOURCE?! Go outside of your small little security bubble for yourself instead of listening to whatever the faggot on the news tells you and OPEN your fucking eyes. Source is the World you live in today, everyday is a repost of the last!

Ask the guy on the street not privelleged enough to be typing on your computer right now about how great things are, he'll be more than happy to give you some fucking sauce. Right after he rapes you!

>>32406096
Again, the whole story was bizarre and nonsensical. Congratulations was retarded, but it wasn't entirely out of place.

Death Note ending was lacking one thing to make it perfect:

Ryuk did not kill Near.

What's a "Pie Ending"?

I'm unfamiliar with the term.

>>32406106
They did that with Gunbuster

If you don't like the ending there's always fan fiction.

>>32406124
>Ask the guy on the street not privelleged enough
The poor in America have it pretty good. They are provided with free food to eat and shelter for the harsh colds. And there are plenty of charities to help them get on their feet again.

Most transients have mental problems or some sort of substance abuse.

>>32406020

The fact that EoE is how it was suppose to end means nothing I suppose?

And how was it ambiguous or sad. People always say this
Shinji stopped chocking her, she arguably showed some level of affection for him. Both were alive, there was hope for the human race to return if they believe in their own hearts
I say it's a "bittersweet" ending because, while not directly stated and left on a sad note, there's always hope

>>32406106
>Don't care. They could have done a collection of stills to end it with a $1000 budget.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DID. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

>>32406142
DN was forced to go on for 60 more chapter than it should have. When Light removed the memories of the DN for his keikaku doori, story went to shit from then on.

The problem with serialized stories is that they are commercial and /serialized/. It's rather hard to plan an ending or even construct a tone when you're at the beck and call of readers and contracts.

>>32406156
It's from School Rumble I believe (never read it). Apparently, the main character and his romantic interest had been getting closer throughout the story. But then, at the very end, all development freezes, the main character gets a pie comically thrown in his face, and the series ends.

>>32404900

fucking saved, will troll again.

>>32406203

This thread is retarded. Listen to >>32405567 and let it fucking die the faggy death it deserves.

>>32406223
But they didn't make a fitting ending. It was "congratulations". Sure, it was a little creative if thought provoking, but I'm not tempted at all to suggest that a little more thought could have been put into it.

>>32406100

The point went through. Just because episode 26 looked like shit doesn't mean EoE wasn't basically a flashy pyrotechnics-filled retelling of it for children without enough of an attention span to understand that the point to be taken was Shinji's choice, and not Eva Unit 2 beating the shit out of stuff and being awesome.

WAIT WAIT WAIT, WE'RE LOSING THE POINT HERE

Bad endings as a sign of immaturity?
Wrong, contradicted by your own fucking chart. If a bad end fits, it's good.

Tragedy is a result of the Realism Movement?
Wrong, Oedipus Rex was performed circa 200 BC, durr hurr

Pretentious hipster bullshit in the third paragraph

Bad Endings Taking us back 200 years?
LOLWAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DUDE

>>32406277
>I only read bad endings for a bad person such as myself.

>>32406278
>Sure, it was a little creative if thought provoking

Well thats better than 90% of anime, so I'd say they did a fucking good job with no money.

>>32406299
>Wrong, Oedipus Rex was performed circa 200 BC, durr hurr
see >>32405462

No one is saying that there weren't always bad endings, but happy endings used to be more revered than they are in the current literary community. Though, life is a sine wave, and opinions do shift and shift back as time progresses.

>>32406254

lol wut?

So basically a random ending that doesn't tie up any loose ends at all?

>>32406275
nice answer there

>>32406096
The story wasn't about giant robots and aliens. It was about a fucked up kid who happened to be a giant robot pilot who fought aliens.

>>32406364
Something like that.

Perhaps someone who's read the series can explain better?

>>32406096
You just went full retard
Eva was never about the action

For action using Eva designs, see Rebuild

>>32406379
this

I can't believe that people think it was about the mecha or fighting aliens. Weren't you tipped off that things were so strange when the aliens were mindraping people with Ode to Joy?

>>32405779

Beyond most of those statistics not being cited, they're still probably irrelevant anyway. Saying that famine and disease and whatever is at an all time high? You know what else is at an all time high?

PEOPLE

So those numbers are alarmist bullshit

>>32406356
That's EXACTLY what OP was saying, that the realism movement made us start writing tragic endings.

>>32406055
>>32406065

It fit well with the last few episodes, but didn't fit at all with the rest of the series.

Although, it was a very sophisticated ending, that kind of surrealism should have been incorporated with earlier episodes to blend better.

That's why The End was a far better suited ending, as it fit perfectly well with the atmosphere, and style set by the series. It fit the tone of the source material, yet just made it more depressing due to the plot development.

You've got two basic kinds of stories: Tragedies and comedies. Modern fiction has all but forgotten that the tragedy exists, and just about everything you read, watch, and listen to these days is a comedy. It's the whole reason you can sit down to watch a movie or show and know that no matter how bad things get in it everything is going to be just fine and fucking dandy by the end. I blame Disney for all this bullshit because they brainwashed several generations into thinking that all stories are supposed to end with the protagonists living happily ever after and the bad guys punished for their misdeeds.

>>32406379
LIES! WE ALL KNOW THAT EVA WAS ALL ABOUT THE GENDO!

>>32406277
What the fuck, that isn't the post I quoted.

Fuck you Samefag shithead and your postchanging faggotry.

>>32406456

Wow, you don't read much do you?

>>32406156

This please. I've seen it thrown around more than I can ignore. What the hell is pie end?

>>32406443
Well, the realist movement did, at least, start making people like bad endo more. It also made them start hating fantasy and science fiction more, too.

HIGH TIER:
NICE BOAT ENDING

>>32406278
I don't think it's fair to accuse them of not putting enough effort into it as it was essentially put in there as a filler. It was not the ending they wanted to make.

Wait, even EoE's ending didn't make sense!

They all turned into Tang at the end...

>>32406287
It's what the author always wanted to be. He had to go the route of pretension for budget reasons.

Just because you understood episodes 24-25 doesn't mean it wasn't a low-budget depression-fueled DEEP ANIME FOR EVOLVED PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF pretension-fest made with the desperate hope that no one would would notice the bullshit.

So where does the Digimon ending fit in?

>>32406504
see
>>32406254

i guess

>>32406456
>what are books

>>32406559
RAGE end

>>32406515
I agree

So tragic endings are the worst? I guess every canonical author, critic, and literary philosopher ever was wrong. Thanks.

Bittersweet endings are great endings if you're not a femnon or taking prozac or some anti depressants

>>32406484
It's the core 'genres' of ancient theatre dumbass. Greeks were writing this shit over 4000 years ago.

>>32406560

This explains the distaste that followed the phrase.

Best anime ending

Clannad, only if you remove the last episode.

>>32406484
You probably know the but for the sake of the silly billies in the thread...

He's misusing a very old philosophy, how plays by the ancient Greeks were either Comedies or Tragedies.

Tragedies were what we generally know them as today, and always had a bad ending.

Comedies had happy endings, didn't have to be funny at all.

It was a big shade of grey, now the two terms mean very specific things.

Endings are only good if they fit the effort and work that the main character and his friends (if he has any with him).

If a character essentially goes to the ends of the earth and back with a tub of lard on his head just to see that the villain has already won, his love life has been raped, etc., it's a shitty ending. We expect him to win because he's done so much work to try and earn it.

If a character does nothing, even when the world is at stake, and suddenly a lightning bolt annihilates the villain and everyone lives happily ever after, that's a shitty ending as well as a deus ex machina.

Those may not be the best examples, but I hope my point gets across all the same.

>>32406596

No, that's not what I'm talking about and you're a fucking idiot for thinking that.

You're saying there is no more tragedy when that's just fucking bullshit. Maybe television and movies are nothing but comedy, but in the literary genre, almost everything that comes out is fucking tragedy.

>>32406559

Season 1?
Happy ending with a slightly bittersweet tone

Season 2?
FUCK YOU MATT

I wonder if this thread will have a satisfying ending.....

>>32406520
...I'm attempting to qualify the quality of an ending, so if it's an ending they didn't want to make, fine, it doesn't change that it wasn't a suitable ending. If EoE is the "true" ending, and not a retelling/spinoff/alternate reality, then fine, whatever, all I'm saying is that the anime did not have a cohesive ending and could have been finished on a shoestring budget and still would've been satisfying, and cohesive with the rest of the story.

>>32406456
>bad guys punished for their misdeeds
They taught us in a film class I took that movies back in the 50s and prior were all but required to show the bad guy coming to justice. That's why, even if the good guy died, the bad guy had to get what was coming to him as well. TV was the same way; there was an Alfred Hitchcock episode where this crazy guy broke into a woman's house and murdered her by pretending to be a police officer. However, at the end of the episode, Hitchcock had to say that, "Well, the criminal found his next target to be far more difficult, when he tried to break into the house of the county sheriff."

>>32406660
>>32406660

Nice, nice.

What about NO ENDING?
Goddess Canidate, FFS!

So, under what tier does School Days ending fit?

Where do Gainax Endings fit into that chart?

This is now an Eva thread.

Post some teh rei.

>>32406700
Like EVA's ending?