What does [a/ have against streaming anime?
nothing that helps
I don't. I could care less how others watch their anime.
that people who do it make shitty threads
>>32141164So you do care?
You are presented with faggy quality which distracts from the anime itself.We especially discourage it for newer anime viewers, because it might cause them to form misconceptions about the quality of fansubs, or even anime in general.
>>32141128its lower qualityYou'd think in 10 long years they would have fixed that but nooooo they're too budy fapping to their big 3. lazy ... stream... programmers...
people want their anime at high qualitythese people have a high standard for colors
Quality
my biggest beef with streams is that they are usually far from the quality they actually could achieve even at considerably lower bitrates.
GODDAMN IT!After just watching the movie on OPs pic today and raging about it, I'm haunted with more imagesso fucking epic though!
Because you aren't a HARDCORE anime fan unless you wait two days to download series through torrents or XDCC, only to watch the first episode and realize it was shit.THATS HOW IT WAS DONE BEFORE YOUTUBE.
>>32141169thisand I prefer to have full control over my player and I don't necessarily have to wait for it to Buffer...Also I have dyslexia. Had to re learn how to read to counter the affects and cope with it. However sometimes my reading speed is still slow because of it.Being able to click back a few seconds in order to see see something I think I missed or w/e is much easier on a downloaded video than it is on a stream.
i rather let fags stream their shit while i sit back and enjoy my anime with quality.
Allow me to add a little more to this.Anime is, at the root of the matter, art. It's about pretty drawings and pictures and backgrounds. If it looks like shit, it kind of fails at meeting its purpose...
>>32141247JESUS CHRISTAre these streamers even trying or are they just putting the lowest quality shit on there so they don't need to deal with complicated compression and shit.
>>32141310I WATCH ANIME FOR THE PLOT
I don't care about people who do because they are worthless trash
quick and easy to use, but most /a/nons only accept 700 MB 1080p episodes with 5.1 surround sound and chapters. Even if the source is a SD series.Oh well, I watched Love Hina, Air, Gakuen Alice on youtube.
>>32141310Backgrounds?
I like being able to pause, jump around, and continue without having to wait 30 seconds each time for buffering bullshit.
There's really nothing too wrong with streaming. [a/ is just full of faggots.
>>32141257In a way, this.I don't want casual fags shitting up my /a/ with their crunchyroll and their onemanga. I want the sort of people who'd drive 200 miles to get an FW900 to watch their anime on and spend hundreds on high end headphones so Mikan's doggy wails sound that bit crisper.I want people who take things seriously.
Normalfags love streaming.
>>32141457Yea..I told my friends to watch higurashi...they watched it on animefuel...at least they understood it.
>>32141257Hey retard, you can download a single ep from a batch torrentnvm 2/10
>>32141202>I dont know how to sageAnyway, there's nothing wrong with it, if you yourself do not mind the quality. I'm probably not one to talk, seeing as I stream most of my anime.
>>32141448MOE AND MECHA MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
>>32141365>700 MB 1080p episodes with 5.1 surround sound and chapters. Even if the source is a SD series.What? You clearly know nothing about HD anime. Firstly, 700mb is not a large filesize for 24 minutes of 1080p anime - over a gigabyte is more normal. Secondly, /a/'s always been massively against upscaling, and you (used to) get regular threads saying "should I get the 720 or is it an upscale?"
>>32141558Not that sort of serious. I don't think you get it at all - come back when you've seen a few hundred more series, then we'll talk.
>>32141448Why do you want people to be that serious about their entertainment? Kind of kills the point.
I don't because I don't care how other people watch their anime.My ability to discuss Dennou Coil on /a/ is unaffected by whether they downloaded or streamed it. >>32141247I've never actually seen a stream that bad.
>>32141247I've been on a lot of livestreams. Not one of them was EVER that horrible.Yeah sometimes you get lagging and freezing up, but seriously that's fucking awful.
>>32141494he wanted the entire series retard, he just didn't know it would be shit
>>32141448Fuck the internet. REAL anime fans order subbed anime from shady VHS dealers in california, and wait 4-6 weeks to get our mits on valuable Dragonball GT episodes.Or get copies from the guy who works at the comic book shop upstate, even though its like an hour drive at least its free, as long as you bring your own blank tapes.
>>32141257>wait two days to download series through torrents or XDCC>two daysEnjoy your dial up.
I'm a quality fag and desire crisp high resStreaming usually doesn't allow for thatI also like having an animu library, so if I'm going to watch something, I'll download it and if it's worth holding on to, it saves me some time (I also get asked a lot by people for anime suggestions and having it handy is helpful)also makes re watching something much easier.. or picking out a scene in an episode to show someone... I don't know.. I guess I like actually having it virtually in my possession rather than "renting" it from the internetI can also watch stuff without the internet.. (on the rare occasions I don't have access)nothing against people who stream other than if they aren't getting a good quality high res stream, they're only hurting their own anime experience
Out of sync subs.Megavideo faggotry.Video unavailable and all the other shit. Better torrent.
to normalfags, gaiafags, and other undesirable trash, it is their bread and butter. they are the kind that pay for crunchyroll subscriptions.also, stream site fucknuts spam TT with their shit all the time.
Shitty quality.Also buffering.Even the sound is usually of poor quality.This doesn't mean I watch everything in 1080 or anything, but I like to enjoy what im watching and not have to wait for it to buffer or be pressed against the screen trying to decipher whats going on.Especially if you watch a darker anime streamed, you can see shit.
>>32141663You can download a single ep, see if you like it, and then download the entire showah why do I even bother with idiots
I wouldn't mind streaming if they could at least up the quality and speed. Even the so called "HD" streams look like shit and take fucking forever to load then buffering buffering buffering buffering buffering buffering oops crash, enjoy loading it again.It's just too much of a hassle when I can easily just go on bakabt or TT and get what I want and be watching high quality within 10-15 minutes.
>>32141632That's exactly why I don't want to deal with streams. Buffering and skipping issues turns what should be entertainment into annoying work.
I watched a shit load of series back when Veoh had it's Veoh TV Beta and a large collection of anime. I really loved being able to quickly watch an anime after checking it out on Wikipedia or something. Now I torrent like everyone else but every now and then I'll watch a streamed episode I particularly liked from a show I don't feel like redownloading. You'd be surprised how much streaming quality has improved. I watched Interstella 555 on Youtube in great quality.
>>32141257>two days to download a seriesDo you have a slow fucking connection or something?
Having limited internet makes downloading full videos impossible too, 1 25~ episode series and I've used the whole months allowance.
I'm dowloading 7.23 GB of Spice and Wolf first season 1080p.There almost no seeders but it's a very good anime and it doesn't matter how much i have to wait because it will look amazing.
Biggest problem (as everyone else has said to death already) is quality. I suppose I've become spoiled with newer releases, though admittedly I haven't downloaded many series in 1080p yet (due to a not so amazing computer and lack of space), but I enjoy decent quality nevertheless.Also, with streaming, that would generally entail a speed-release, meaning you may get subs that might not make much sense or have some problems with audio/video sync.
>>32141837>One season>The average is now 60 dollarsWhat the fuck
>>32141837stop living in a third world country
>>32141866Haha, wow. I was just going to mention that being one of the few series I -have- downloaded in 1080. It is worth the wait.
>>32141883Stop living in a rich, free country.
>>32141837that's why Australia
>>32141883>Australia>third world
i dont have an internet connection that allows me to stream 720p without having to give it time to buffer first anyway
I saw that Hulu had Black Cat, googled it, was like "Fuck year time to get my shonen on", but then, Dub.Well [a/? What do you know about this dub? Worth trying?
I can watch my anime in a box. I can watch my anime with a fox. I can watch my anime here and there. I can watch my anime ANYWHERE. I can watch my anime on a train. I can watch my anime on a plane. I can watch without internet too. Can the same thing be said of you?
>>32141968>australia>not a third world shithole with ridiculous laws and draconian internet censorship
>streaming
>>32141968Might as well be
something like this...other than quality there really is no difference.. other than you're not actually saving any bandwidth by streaming...you're still downloading it through your browser and then it gets deleted as soon as you close itso why not just download the episode and delete it when done?
>>32141719>Even the sound is usually of poor quality.Yeah, and fucking hell, that's completely unnecessary. You get shit like a 22kHz mp3 artifact mess, where ps-aac would give results that are nearly transparent under many listening circumstances at 48 kbps (headphones or high volume aside obviously) average anime stream (progressive download, 25 min) ends up somewhere around 80 MB total size, while it'd be perfectly possible to achieve the same or better quality at 40 MB if you actually tried.
>>32142045cause torrents be gay yo
we don't. just sucks to be you
>>32141988black cat is shit, just find something else to watch
>>32142082No, you're just a retard.
>>32142082Then direct-download.
>>32142082Torrents are actually one of the fucking sweeter things to come from the internet
>>32142082lrn2ddlget sd shit or xvid rencodes if your box / your inet is too weak for hd
>>32142082Who ever said you had to torrent? Learn to XDCC
Download the shit that looks like it is going to have impressive visuals... your big-money franchises, OVA, or other anime where there is lots of money being spent on the visuals.Stream moe-shit and other cancer-that-is-killing-anime./thread
>>32142144or, the right way, and not stream anything at all.
>>32142141not interested in your silly emoticons
Shit qualityBuffering nonsenseExtra useless flash garbage on most sites, like chatangoZero portability I only condone streaming if you have to marathon a very large anime
>>32142144No, you can't "/thread" your own post you dipshit, especially when it's as shit a post as that.You don't stream fucking anything.
Streaming is for Normalfags, and who wants to be one of those?
>>32142254>>32142196why should someone download a bunch of bad anime when streaming will do? Most moeblob shows (and other cancer) have characters so devoid of detail (both internally and the-way-they-are-drawn) that the decrease in resolution won't matter.K-ON isn't going to suffer because of streaming... as it isn't really that visually impressive. I could understand if you were into the music, but then why not just buy/download the OST and save yourself some hard-drive space.
>>32142414u mad
Because people who draw all the animes you love spend hours appon hours drawing each scene, sure there are shotcuts but it still takes a long time in the long run. By streaming your just slapping them in the face, more so than the fact that your getting it free.Its like telling a chef to bake you an amazing wedding cake and at the last momment you break into his house, steal the cake and remove all the icing before eating it and leaving a big mess everywhere. Its the same with streaming, you ask for an anime and when its releaced you steal the product and lower the quality to make everything look worse than it should have. I mean why should the anime companies go to all the trouble of drawing pretty scenes if your just going to destroy them?That, is why streaming is so bad.
>>32142045that looks like beyond the clouds.... but i dont remember that....can someone refresh my memory?
>>32142414PROTIP: download 1 ep before rest to judge quality
>>32142224I agree with this. I watched nearly 100 episodes of gintama on Crunchyroll. The subpar quality didn't detract for the top tier humor at all. I plan to continue that way too. I'm still very far behind but no marathoning time in my schedule lately.
>>32142414K-On actually has sveral segments of excellent animation.And nobody gives a shit how much you throw around your meaningless "moeshit" "cancer", etc... buzzwords. If it's a shit show, then there's no point in streaming it at all, because you shouldn't even be watching it in the first place.
>>321424695cm
It's just elitist faggots being elitist faggots.Although the ONLY reason you should ever watch streams is if you have shitty internet. And by shitty I mean if you're retarded and still have a 56k modem.Otherwise, torrent or direct DL.
>>32142534then why are you downloading K-ON
>>32142520HAHAHAHAHAHA I have to watch this immediately! is this near the beginning?
>>32142634I forgot what precise episode it was but yeah it should be somewhere in the first 50 episodes. and Yeah this is definitely some good stuff.
>>32142548i dont remember any of that crap from 5cmmaybe i need to watch it again
>>32142634Yes, actually.You should watch gintama anyways. also, episode 25 will blow your mind.
>>32142520i'd watch it if it weren't a half-translated translator's note convention and a textbook example of Doing It Wrong.
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>>32142767gb2tvtropes
Why is 5 cm per second so sad? Is it the song?Or just because it was godly? ;_;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvos4SDJacU
I watch anime streaming sometimes when it is something that I don't really wanna download due to the fact I live with other people and constantly torrenting is a hassle when I'm sharing internet.But yeah, I watched Code Geass R1, for example, on Bandai's Youtube channel, then later decided I actually wanted to download R2. And I watched the first 13 or so recap episodes of FMA: Brotherhood on Funimation's Youtube channel before I decided to start downloading them weekly.I mean, I personally think it is much better to DOWNLOAD anime than watch ti streaming, but sometimes if you have a good source of high quality anime streaming and it isn't something you really want to waste HD space on, it is perfectly fine. Don't really care though, to be honest; it is making anime more popular, so I'm fine with that.
>>3214257556k is literally incapable of streaming. you'd be better off downloading low quality versions of the eps over the course of a few days
OP you`re obvious troll butHD Fags enjoy thinking it matters how crisp their anime looks and sounds, while Streamfags just wanna watch it ASAP and just care about plot.One side is elitist faggotry the other is don't care fail faggotry. Watch HD when you can since it does look nice, but if you don't got time to waste downloading and waiting just stream. It's the same anime either way
>>32142977>Implying torrents dont finish in 5 minutes
>>32143014>>implying that people watch rawr's
>>32143014>Implying they doMust be nice having a fiber optic connection.
I stream only to watch the current season's showI only download DVDrips
>>32143014>implying that they do.
>>32143126well i be damned some else that does the same exact thing i do.
>>32142873god that was a fantastic movie
if you stream you dont belong here. there's a boat that goes back to gaia, it leaves in 2 minutes. your ass better be on it.
>>32142977>It's the same anime either wayNo, it's not. Despite what you may believe, but anime is in fact a visual medium. Surprising, I know. Replace video with blotches and smudges, and what do you get?
>>32143139>>32143123>implying they don'tSeriously, it takes no time to download an episode.Why would you watch a visual medium and only settle for second best in terms of visual quality?
>>32143237"second best" is being a little generous...
>>32142045is that the e7 movie?
>>32143210>>implying that you can make me leave
>>32143226The exact same thing with about 200 less pixels? Big fucking deal.
>>32143289It was a hyperbole, but yes, you're right.
>>32143303>using double quote>using implyingyeah, get in the oven, jew.
>>32141128nothing.but vlc.....damn vlcstreaming in public
I stream.If I care enough about seeing a series that I want to see it in better quality, I'd buy it.If a series is that important to me, I show that I care.
>>32143425Nobody cares what you think about anything, MTL.
>>32143444That's no reason to sage OP's thread, though.
>>32143425nobody cares, tripfuck.
>>32143301It's 5cm per second goddamnit
I don't stream anime for the same reason I don't stream porn.
Downloading assures quality, lets you jump around between episodes and scenes much easier, and can potentially save you some time by side-stepping buffering concerns. For older series, it's hard to find streams at all, let alone streams of quality.That said, it is possible to stream with decent picture quality, and it gets more possible as technology improves. It's easier for people to adopt a binary stance and conclude that all streaming is shit, though.
>>32143518wow you are stupid
I stream and don't give a shit. No amount of trolling and whining on [a/ will change that either.
>>32143317Apparently you're one of those retarded people who just stare glass-eyed at the subs instead of actually watching the show.If you were actually watching, you'd be able to see the difference, and it's A LOT more than 200 pixels.
>>32143639>That said, it is possible to stream with decent picture quality,If you could now just point me to this newfangled piece of technology, it would be most appreciated.
>>32143697There are 720p streams even on youtube.
>>32143697stage6;_;
>>32143697http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTVbMp_UnI0
>>32143781yeah, the resolution might be 720 or even 1080p, but the overall quality still sucks
>>32143639>That said, it is possible to stream with decent picture quality, and it gets more possible as technology improvesNo, it gets more possible once people stop being terminally fucktarded. The technology is already there.>>32143697h.264 (use an encoder and settings that are not shit)he/ps-aac (use an encoder and settings that are not shit)
>>32143834still looks like shit
>>32143781>youtube>good qualityhahahaha, good one.>>32143786While I do miss that place, the quality was subpar as well.Face it, we just haven't reached the age of technology where we can get high or even decent quality streams.Which really baffles the mind because it's been so long now, what are these lazy bastards doing?
>>32143834>part 1HAHAHAHAHAHA faggot.
If you're gonna pirate at a least do it right, unless you mean crunchyshit, if you pay for that kill yourself.
>>32143183Eh, storywise I preferred Beyond The Clouds to 5cm. Visually they're pretty similar but IMO the additional cloudporn in Beyond the Clouds makes it a win there too.The middle segment (surfer chick) of 5cm was gorgeously done though, easily the best part of the whole thing.
yeah flash is the best video player duuur
>>32143845It's more than good enough for casual viewing. I swear, kids these days are so spoiled by HD they don't know how good they have it.
As long as streaming is done through flash, it will be shit.
I love my anime splitted in 20 parts and still being all pixelated! Streaming is the way to got!
>>32143977>casual viewingfound your problem>>32143425>GUYS LOOK AT ME, I AM ALWAYS DEFEDING THE TROLL/RETARDED SIDE BUT I'M NOT A TROLL, I'M NOT A TROLL GUYS!
>>32143977>It's more than good enough for casual viewing. Then it's not good enough for me, casualfag.
>>32144024>GUYS LOOK AT ME I DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO STREAM SO THEY MUST BE TROLLING AND I GREENTEXT AM I COOL YET
What's wrong with casual viewing? Oh wait, this is [a/ so all you NEETs and neckbeards are really serious about your cartoons. Carry on.
I like watching stuff when I'm in the mood for it, so that's why I stream. By the time I'm done downloading something I won't feel like watching it anymore.
>>32144124I don't like guessing at whether the guy in the scene is holding a book, or a box of rat poison.
>>32143861It looks just fine. What are you talking about?>>32143919Yeah. "Part 1". And?>>32144029What's wrong with being casual? Some people just don't have the time. And it's not like the video game industry where they're making too many games for casual gamers. They're still making too many cartoons for hardcore otaku, hence all the moe faggotry.
>>32144124Yes, that's right. If you want to be a casualfag about shit, go to gaia or narutofan or some shit. Thanks for admitting that streaming is for retards with no sense of standards, though.>>32144148Then maybe you should take some fucking ritalin.
>>32144174I don't either. Good thing I stream at high enough quality to tell the difference.
>>32143899>Face it, we just haven't reached the age of technology where we can get high or even decent quality streams.bullshit. refer to >>32143855>>32143978>As long as streaming is done through flash, it will be shit.flash player supports h.264, he-aac and unstyled subtitles. on the whole it's not perfect, but far from shit.
>>32144215>it's not perfectThen I don't care.
>>32144197Unlike you, I don't care if I'm not watching a show at the maximum possible quality. It's not a big deal weeaboo.
I do both and I still don't understand what you hate about streaming so much.
>>32144303>weeabooCute, really.
>>32144148>I like watching stuff when I'm in the mood for it, so that's why I download. When I'm in the mood, I can just double-click and watch it without any buffering crap or anything.Fixed that for you.
>>32144195Nobody cares what a disgusting fucking normalfag like you thinks, MTL. All you ever do is shit on everything /a/ does, or shove /co/ shit down everybody's throat, or buddying up with the trapfags to try and gain sympathy. What are you still even fucking doing here? Nobody wants you here.>>32144303Oh no, you called someone a weeaboo, while on 4chan's anime and manga board.If you're going to be a casualfag about shit, then just don't bother with it in the first place.
>>32144384http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/30667358whole thread, even better
>>32144374Interesting, all I did was say that I stream and all of a sudden "BAAAWW BAAAWWW GO AWAY CASUALFAG!!!1!11" If you don't like it, then close the thread and go download more cartoons.
Heres the truth OPHD Fags don't really like anime, they just like the right to say they watch their shit in the best quality possible. They don't watch anime for the plot instead watch it for the backgrounds.Streamfags aren't particularly interested in backgrounds and can focus more deeply on the plot instead of having to take in every pixel of 1680x1080 pictures and comprehend it.Streamfags = People who like plots and good animeHD Fags = Moe shit enjoyers and people who don't like anime but rather quality.