>>32106510
they all commited suicide. it's the point of the show.

/r/ing the .gifs of them flapping their wings.

>>32106565
So you are saying that all of the little kids committed suicide?

You are confusing two names here.
Reki = pebble = sinbound from the beginning
Rakka = falling down = new Haibane, became sinbound in the series
Otherwise I think that you are correct.

>>32106651
abortion

Do their wings twitch when they orgasm? What about their halos?

>>32106651
it's not so much of suicide than no being able to accpet death
a 5-yo child can accept death, so they turn into haibanes
like the guy from the factory, he probably died drown in a cold lake, he couldn't accept he had died because he was a child and turned into a haibane

>>32106651
why not? young kids are even more likely to commit suicide than adult. Stupid death like jumping from a window with a superman cape and stuff.

>>32106666
Whoops, you are right. Thank you for pointing that out.

>>32106668
>>32106757
HAha, no.

>>32106510
Yes, if you switch the names you are correct sir.

So what about the Toga? Are they Haibane who failed to take flight?

>>32106510
Holy crap, I almost didn't notice Kuu because of the messed up hair color.

>>32107251
I understand they were Haibane who missed their time to fly

So, their "dreams" that they have in the egg are actually how they died?

Like, Rakka jumped off a bridge or something, and Reki jumped in front of a train?

>>32107370
Yes

But, I think those who have clear memories of their dreams didn't commit suicide. Still don't know why they became Haibane.

>>32107424
I think that it is because they died young and did not fully experience their lives.

>>32107424
Just doing a quick re-watch of some of the episodes, it seems to me all the dreams seem to be suicide-related in some way.

>>32107632
then, what makes one to become a sin-bound haibane?

>>32107889
I don't remember, they explained it in the series and it's been a while since I've seen them.

Something about being forgiven, or something.

What was the crow supposed to represent?

>>32108117
Someone in her past life that cared about her.

Sin-bound = suicide

The concept that the "normal" haibanes died before their time or before they could "accept" death is probably right

>>32108117

was there a part in the anime that implied that?

>>32108411
Not... Entirely sure what Chisa has to do with this, aside from suicide. I mean, she kills herself too, but the result is entirely different. Unless, I don't know, Lain recreated the Wired post-Layer 13 into the world of Haibane Renmei. Epileptic trees go?

>>32108411
both reki and rakka were suicides, so yes they were sinbound

the others were accidental death

kana = drowned
hikari = fire
kuu = fell or some shit who cares
nemu = died in her sleep, maybe OD'd on sleeping pills

and if you REALLY want to get into it, one of the kids dreams about shortcake = choking to death on food

>>32106666
nice satan get

>>32106510
Old theory is old.
I thought so too.

keep talking about haibane. it's great.

>>32106621
>>32106621
>>32106621

>>32108535
Some of those are kind of reaching, and to the best of my knowledge none have ever been confirmed.

>>32108732
Nothing about it has ever been confirmed, aside from what was in the anime to begin with.

The creator said he wanted to leave it as open-ended as possible, so that people can draw their own conclusions.

>>32108531

sry that was just a random pic i chose

like this one

>>32108780

the only thing i find is open ended is the crows and the toga (but toga aren't really meaningful to the actual story so i guess its not important)

are the crows actual embodiments of people rakka once knew trying to lead her out of her "sin circle"?
Or are they just representations of past memories that she must recover in order to lead herself out of the "circle of sin" - like the dead crow in the well? (which indicating that rakka probably died in a well as well - no pun intended-)

>>32108966
The way it was portrayed, it seemed to me that the crow was the physical embodiment of the person she once knew.

However, that would mean that the crow-person probably died in the previous life as well, and when you consider that they died just so Rakka would be free of sin, it becomes a little bit of a stretch.

Damnit...

Haibane are those souls who CANT MOVE ON

The sin bound are just those who committed suicide and aren't ready to move on

The team that created Haibane Renmei admitted that it had a lot of christian references, so even the story had christian themes.

Now, there are two things needed to attain the Day of Flight.

1. You have to forgive yourself - Reki couldn't until the last moment.

2. You need someone to save you - As the crow was Rakka's saviour, Rakka was Reki's saviour

Yeah, christian themes.

I don't really like it when creators just go "here's some ambiguous shit make up your own theories lol".

>>32109153

Personally, I believe the crows are kind of like lost memories from the past. (kinda like the butterflies in Boogiepop)

They are said to "carry lost things" (memories)
and can fly over the "wall" which (i believe) symbolizes death

>>32109374
Hoo boy. Don't watch Lain or Texhnolyze, then.

>>32109374
so you want to be spoon fed everything?

Its called reading between the lines. Oh wait...

The only thing I didn't like about this series is that you have NO CLUE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY GO OVER THE WALL

HOW DO YOU KNOW IT'S A GOOD THING, MAYBE YOU GET CAST INTO THE PITS OF HELL AND SUFFER FOR ETERNITY

;_;

>>32109454
>>32109450

I also prefer a closed ending not an ambiguous one because it will always lead to in fighting about the true ending and what ever else was left open. Yes it's nice to sit there and see what others think, but for me it's not a complete ending.

>>32109519

So, do you think ABe knew what comes after death and was just not telling us just to make us mad?

>>32109637
If he can make up a story about people becoming Haibane because of unfinished lives / suicide, he can make up a story about what happens afterward.

did texhnolyze, haibane renmei and lain share the same universe?

ok, i must be dense because i never figured out that Rakka was supposed to have committed suicide.

on the other hand, i kept my mind very open watching this, so just as the show doesn't draw any definite conclusions, neither did i.

pic related for density.

>>32109717
They shared a character designer. If you squint your eyes and look sideways, they might have occurred in the same universe, but that's an epileptic forest.