So, is he going to do it?

If only, but you faggots had to go and spam "no" votes.

Fuck man, same thing happened to me.

literally everyone said no

he should make a shounen board though

Why would we want the userbase split even more?

>>31236876

Even if people were samefagging, I'm sure moot can tell people apart. It would be nice to not have hundreds of Big 3 threads every week.

>>31236876
>spam

It was only up for, what, a minute? And for the record, I shouted NEIGH, NEIGH!

that thread was around for less than 5 minutes and I missed it

>>31236876
It wouldn't be good at all, and only an idiot would think otherwise.

>>31236890
Because the manga board would be great and the anime board would hold the stupid ass crap from dragging the former down.

Same here, thread died while coming up with a response on the no side. There were a lot of no's, so I'm guessing he decided there isn't enough demand to justify a split?

>I also typed up a semi-long response advocating against another split...

same thing :(

the nays won in a 7:1 favor.

Thank god.
It's a fucking terrible idea.

>>31236895
It would cut back on some of the shit people bitch about, but probably give way to more.

And Moot said himself that /jp/ failed, so why risk it again?

pic is shooped, he was actually asking if railgun is worth watching

We don't really need a separate board, I think it's pretty balanced

>>31236890
/a/ isn't exactly hurting for posts. I think the board is more than active enough to survive the split.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/a/thread/31236541

Wait, I don't understand why people seriously were voting against a split.

>>31236931
>107 posts and 10 image replies omitted.

The hell, how? I must have been typing for 3 minutes, and I started when there were only 4 replies...

Hoping for no split here.

A split wouldn't solve much. What we need is to get rid of the blatant troll and spam threads that aren't about either anime or manga. i.e. more consistent moderation.

>>31236980
I made the "No, but do a shounen board instead" post, and that was when it had 1 post. When I opened the thread, it already had 7

I love how there was an admin here and he doesn't ban the lame invasion shit. This fucking site...

moot you fucker, you can't know what /a/ thinks if you keep the thread up for just five minutes.

>>31236923

This!

Jesus christ, how can you people NOT see this?

This would be an improvement. There would be way less arguing.

>>31236950

How exactly has /jp/ failed?
It seems okay to me.

>>31236978
because /jp/

ITT
>it would be a great idea to split them apart and set adrift the genre i don't like so the board caters to me alone

Please no.

>>31237026
Unless you elaborate, your argument is just incoherent rambling.

>>31237027

Sure is asspained moe anime fans in this thread.

Why wouldn't you want the board split? It makes so much more sense.

>>31237022
I don't go to /jp/, I don't know.

>>31237026
All of the quality posters leave? I don't see manga being any good with the abundance of shonenfags here.

>>31237022

Because when I think "japan" I do not think "visual novels."

Sure, the split was a success as far as getting the Touhou shit out of /a/, but /jp/ itself is a fail board.

Also, thanks for the /lit/ board, moot!

>>31236978
It's moot. What do you expect?

I don't want this. ):

>>31237051
Your are a hypocrite.

>>31236859
He should do it.
It would be nice if all the BIG3SHIT FANS go to /man/.
Feels good man.

>>31237101
There have to be trashcan boards like /b/ and /jp/ to keep the shit out of real boards.

THE MANGA BOARD WOULD BE FUCKING AWESOME MOOT, GODDAMN. WHY YOU GOTTA BE LIKE THIS, MANG?

While I agree than the split would be a horrible blow to our cozy community, my biggest temptation to say yes was he fact that we would no longer have KUUUUBBBBOOOOO/Wan Piss/CUT-THE-CRA-SAKURA threads each time a new chapter gets released

EVERY ANIME AND MANGA GETS THEIR OWN BOARD, EVERYBODY WINS

Needs more mods then anything

I did a psuedo-vote count using the post filter

75% were against or there was a failed GET for yes, and 25% were for it, in some way of expression

You'd end up with all the discussion going to manga with all the junk staying on anime, so people who want to discuss anime (which is usually based on a manga) would do it on the manga board. Then it'll be just like all the boards arguing over where katawa shoujo belongs. Meanwhile /a/ would just go further downhill as all the serious posters start to see it as the board set aside to contain /b with 2d/

On a positive note, there wouldn't be any more bitching from the "I hate the Big Three Crowd", we already have manga roulette threads anyway, and a manga board would undoubtedly open up whole genres for people to appreciate.

On a negative note, the board would most likely be overrun by shounen vs. shounen threads, and unless we have constant mod activity over there to sticky new releases for the Big Three, the thread would get overrun by Naruto, One Piece, and Bleach every week.

Yeah, and while we're at it, let's split /co/.

>>31236895

moot CAN tell people apart.

There are even records of each of your posts.

I wonder if i'm one of the few people that actually really hates whenever a new board is released and everyone posting there tries to act proper and nice, as if they don't deep down wish their new board was just as if not even more shitty than their last one.

You mother fuckers will miss the spam and trolling, no matter how much you try and say you loathe it now. This is the sauce you have marinated in for fucking years, and you just want to up and leave it?

>>31237157
The problem is you can't discuss something on the real boards covered by the trashcan boards, since janitors label it off topic and delete it.

Sure, touhou threads 24/7 aren't something I'd want on /a/ but if we want to have the occasional one then I'd rather keep it here than have to deal with /jp/

this thread is dumb, moot already deleted the real one.

you all are butthurt moot didn't see your input. guess who got 2 posts in faggots. delete this horrible thread.

>>31237250
/co/ doesn't have enough unique posters or fast enough posting rate to warrant a split.

>>31237022
>How exactly has /jp/ failed?
You haven't been on 4chan that long, have you? A year, tops, I would wager.

Regardless, /jp/ was made in order to get Touhou, ronery, VNs, dakimakura, onaholes, etc out of /a/ and make /a/ Anime & Manga again, instead of LOLSORANDUM!

Now, though, there's VN threads in /a/ again, waifu/ronery/fleshlight threads in /a/ again, and there's the occasional touhou thread too. And in /jp/, Sion spams anime thread thrice-daily, at least for no reason.

/jp/ is a failed board because it did not fulfill its purpose. This is something moot admits himself. The reason it failed is because of a very, very, very, very significant lack of moderation. Making another split would be absolutely horrid and would lead to the exact same result as with the /a/-/jp/ split.

If you're tired of the lulkuboisepictroll!!!, oneshit, and naburo threads, filter them, or send moot multiple emails demanding mods to keep that shit out of /a/. Hell, it's not as if there aren't at least 50 other sites on the internet that discuss those series fanatically.

>>31237273
>You mother fuckers will miss the spam and trolling
watisthisidon'teven

>>31237296
>anime threads thrice-daily, at least, for no reason.
Damn, I fucked that sentence up something fierce.

>>31237273

Yes. You sound like a faggot, who the hell wants spam? You say it act like this is the only place post.

I'm sure most here do both anime and manga.

I don't want to have to go two separate boards to do essentially the same thing. I pick up a lot of manga because of the anime is airing.

ding dong

>>31237273
It isn't always this bad.
I like it better when it isn't this bad.
I'm an anti-splitter but I think you're a fucking moron too. Stop talking.

Less than 5 minutes to discuss such a radical split doesn't really leave much time to quantify the pros and cons and toss around some ideas.

At least when the /jp/ sticky was up for the possibility of /dg/ it was up for considerably longer and generated some discussion outside of just "no" or "yes" single response answers.

>>31237296
However, the current bullshit in both /a/ and /jp/ wouldn't spread to /manga/ because as we all know, the people who would browse that board aren't faggots. Even the Big 3 fans.

>>31237391
That is because /a/ is five times faster than /jp/.

>>31237407
I have absolutely no idea what your post says.
'The shit in /a/ and /jp/ wouldn't spread to /manga/ because the guys that post in /manga/ (or would) aren't faggots'?
Rewrite that post and post it again so I can understand what you meant correctly before I call you a dumbass.

>>31237296
/jp/ failed because no one knows what exactly fits there, and what's posted there is barely enough content for a board. The community is absolutely awful, and circlejerking to being a NEET has become one of the most popular topics after daily dose forced memes.

No, no just no

>>31237448
As far as I can tell you know what my point was and are just trolling now.

anime and manga is so intertwined though a split would be pretty disasterous

imagine all of the /a/ memes and references that would suddenly be deemed "off topic" if used on one of the opposing board

>>31237448
>/a/ is five times faster than /jp/.
This is already a good enough reason to split /a/.

A manga board would be nice for discussing some of the lesser known series that usually go ignored on /a/, but I already know all the underage and shounenfags would run it into the ground.

splitting boards into smaller section to root out off-topic or unwarranted threads don't work

we have /jp/ yet there was still umineko spam

we have /c/ but moeshit doesn't disappear

>>31237503
No, seriously, I don't. You're saying that the big3 fans aren't faggots that spam kubokubokubo, make 5 threads over the newest chapter of onepiece, and start debating on what the next chapter of Naruto will focus on?

>>31237486
Now, now, respect the board's culture. Just because they 'saged' your thread and called you a faggot for not lurking, doesn't mean they're all faggots.

>>31237563
Discussing anime and manga doesn't belong in /c/

>>31237563
>we have /c/ and /cm/ but imagedumps don't disappear

fix'd.

And, yes, this is why splitting the board is a bad idea. Or, at least, it is a bad idea until we get more mods.

>>31237541

/jp/ is too slow. /a/ is too fast.

Including moderation, I think moot needs to put more emphasis on making pages 1-10 relevant. If your post isn't on page 0, it doesn't matter on /a/, and there's this constant competition for page 0 space that just causes a lot of shitty threads.

Splitting the board would make the threads move slower, sure, but it would also filter a lot of the morons who come here only to discuss Big Three. The content would be a lot better, and manga wouldn't be such a drowned subject anymore.

It would be the best for EVERYONE.

I think it'd be okay to lessen big 3 spam.Those fuckers can't stay in one thread.

>>31237391
>/dg/
oh this is THIS bullshit again, eh?
quit plugging your stupid troll.

/jp/ is one of the shittiest board on 4chan.
The userbase is shit, flaming and sage are everywhere as the result of the slow board.
It has no direction and most of the content is either VN or Touhou that already discussed thousand of times.
Japanese video games belong to /v/ - Video Games, period.

moot, learn from history and don't repeat the same mistake.
What 4chan really need now is ACTIVE janitors and mods.
We don't need mods that b& the reported thread tomorrow.

Why is 4chan in a permanent moderator crisis anyway?

>>31237697

This.

>>31237659
What makes it worse are the people that put no thought into their posts whatsoever, and thus respond and bump a stupid thread like "What does Kubo hide under his glasses?"

>>31237706
Is this copypasta?

You guys do realize that a /man/ board would just be big 3 threads all day every day right? The problem is not redirecting the shit but to reduce it.

>>31237710

Because moot doesn't gives a fuck about moderation, and neither does the mods. He claims that "finding good people is impossible", but hell if I've ever seen him ask.

>>31237706
>What 4chan really need now is ACTIVE janitors and mods.

i know

Would be terrible for me.

I rarely ever read manga, but it's obvious which group of people is less retarded. /a/ would be complete shit, but have more content I'm interested in, whereas /ma/ would be good, but I'd have to actually read.

>>31237746

So what? You prefer that shit on OUR board? Let them have a board for them, since they are so uneducated and stupid.

>>31237771
Hello

>>31237771
>>31237771

How come we didn't get a rename to /ace/ when Ace died? WHERE WERE YOU, moot?!

>>31237771

Dude, when the fuck are you going to open slots for Janitors again? What the hell man.

>>31237659
I absolutely agree with this, but it won't ever work with the way 4chan's boards are currently laid out. Making the subject field mandatory (and on-topic), having a subject search function, and a thread/subject list/index for the current threads posted (like 2ch) would all be required.

As if we need more bitching. We already have people who bitch and moan any time someone talks about an anime, then happens to talk a bit about the VN, we get retards screaming "TAKE IT TO /jp/ HURRR" if we split again we'll now get people screaming to take it to the manga board anytime someone mentions that. No thank you.

>>31237710
>Why is 4chan in a permanent moderator crisis anyway?

because there are seven million of you, making over 700,000 posts per day

>>31237749
It's the magic internet rule. You can't ever become a mod if you ask, and if you don't ask you will obviously never be one either. THERE ARE NO "GOOD PEOPLE", there are just people. There is no magic race of elves you can hunt out to recruit as mods.

>>31237771
Too bad none of us would be an even semi-decent Janitor.

>>31237771
Are there positions open in the janitor category now or are we still on indefinite hold.

I don't want the userbase to be split. Not just because of the aforementioned reasons in this thread, but because it just causes a lot of unnecessary elitism and boardism on all sides.

>>31237771
What the hell are the regulars doing right now?

/a/ doesn't need to be split into /anime/ and /manga/, it needs to be split into /anime & manga/ and /waifu image dumps/

>>31237771
What type of qualifications do you need to be a janitor or mod?

What /a/ needs is a way to ban people and keep them banned. It won't matter how many mods we have if they can't keep people banned for more then 10 seconds.

>>31237771

inb4 1000000 replies

>>31237746
I can already imagine /a/ moving at a reasonable pace without those BIG3SHIT SPAM.

>>31237771

Sir, is it true Modcat is a 3DPD girl

>>31237817
holy shit, there are a lot of lurkers

Only thing I'm in favor of is axing /jp/

>>31237686
So you're saying that /manga/ would filter out the bigthree faggots from /a/, and thus make everyone happy?

And what about the guys that go to /manga/ to discuss a manga that isn't big three? Will their threads be drowned in "What will happen in the next OP/Naruto/Bleach chapter?" Or "OMGChapter657 SPOILERS!" or "What does Luffy like to eat for breakfast?" or "Wat color are hinata's panties lol?" and other inane bullshit you find on sites with regular Big Three fan posters?

>>31237771
Then why hasn't anything happened with that problem? It's not like it's some new thing that caught everyone off guard. It's been a problem for years.

>>31237830

>>>/c/

>>31237817
Seven million!?! Dear god.. Why don't we use our collective rabbling to actually DO something

>>31237560
nah, as long as the big three shounen stay in their threads, it shouldn't be a problem.

Damn, I wish to have some decent HXH discussion thread for at least once.

>>31237797

See? It's thanks to these faggots we need to split /a/ again.

>>31237817

Oh please moot, stop this shit. Sometimes I get bored of seeing the same threads on /a/ for hours. You're using /b/ as a example of 4chan's speed, but the same does not applies to other boards. It takes a fucking click to delete a shitty thread.

>>31237775
Again, don't redirect the shit but control it.
>>31237771
Then how about you get some more janitors and moderators, Moot? You know that there are thousands of well able anons who would jump at the chance to become a janitor/mod.

>>31237817
No one here knows how janitors/moderators are selected or if it's even possible to become one.

>>31237296

>You haven't been on 4chan that long, have you? A year, tops, I would wager.

Nope. I started posting here summer of 08.
I don't really go anywhere here outside of /a/, /v/ and /jp/.

You make some interesting points, however I firmly believe waifu roulettes, trap threads (with exception of Prunus Girl or whatever comes next jeez), and general crappy threads wouldn't be as prominent if the split actually happened.

For example, there would be no reason to post about K-ON or Hanamaru Kindergarten in the /manga/ board.

Likewise, there would be no reason to post about the big3 in /anime/. No one ever posts about the big3 animated adaptations anyway.

About /jp/. They can be pretty bitter, especially when people repost or generally make crappy threads about certain VNs I'm not going to mention. Thus, the ones they shun come to /a/, because no one wants to hear how their "love life," or whatever the fuck, is going, or how much they appreciate Sakura from FSN.

You're right about the reporting part. I should complain more often.

>>31237817
I would be happy to take care of /po/ for you

>>31237893

Yeah! Read 700,000 posts a day!

Hell, did you even get 1/10th of the way through that TED thread you posted?

>>31237887
Yeah but there are dirty trolls out there who just want to fuck the place up.

>>31237874

>See? It's thanks to these faggots we need to split /a/ again.

Enjoying all those One Piece banners?

Even if you're filtering them out, they're still there.

>>31237909
newfag

Don't split it off!

1) what about overlaps?
2) the manga discussion is WAY more varied than the anime discussion. Anime is pretty much the same range of interests, but there's no way that Naruto and Shintaro Kago should be BOTH split off into the same board.

I really hope he doesn't do this.

>>31236886
you are the cancer killing 4chan

/a/ isn't as cool without manga.

Delete /jp/ merge it back to /a/, make a manga board

>>31237860

Of course they will. But hey, it's a sacrifice we need to make for the greater good. If we are going to lose 5 threads/day for retards posting about Big3, might as well be on a manga board.

>>>/anime/

Why don't we use anime more?

>>31237957
TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!

>>31237824

I honestly think I would. I have no life at all and am on /a/ 24/7. I would janitor for free if only to get rid of the spam and trolls. I'm sure the same goes for many of us.

I figure /ma/ would become the de facto One Piece board.

>>31237989

And who's to say you're not bias towards one group or the other?

>>31237871

at least 1/2 of that is /b/tards and normalfags.

The rest of us can't agree on anything, since we have everything from Marxists to Fascists.

>>31237817
>>31237771
I know how you probably think that there are no good applicants for janitors but that's what trial periods are for.

>>31237817

Honestly, I frequent /tv/ and a single mod patrolling there just a couple of hours a day would make a difference.
The whole board is overrun with dumps and off-topic nonsense, not to mention hourly pedophilia threads.
It's kind of silly that there can't be 1 or 2 people to patrol there on occasion..

>>31237969
part of the problem is newfags making new threads when there is already a thread going, part of the problem is dumbshits SPAMMING the existing thread to the point of unreadablity

Dammit, I blame you faggot Big Three haters for tempting moot for even a second.

A board split would destroy anime and manga discussion on /a/. There would be nothing left - it would be over and done with forever.

>>31238020
But you have to keep in mind that /tv/ moves at a snail's pace compared to /a/.

>>31237857
>>31237957
/jp/'s pretty much unanimously decided that they'd spam touhou every hour, every day on /a/ if they were forced to merge with /a/. If we don't even have mods to take care of the shit we're already covered in, why the hell do you want to jump around in more shit?

>>31237957

No, NO NO. Please, NO. I'm from /jp/ and the last thing I want is to share our personal paradise with you morons again. I know /jp/ isn't very fast, but the people who post there LOVE it. It produces stuff, it has nice discussions, people know how to use sage and try to have a proper grammar.

Mixing us with /a/ again would totally annihilate this peace.

>>31237972
Did you even read that page? It's like daytime /a/ at its worst.

>>31238020
/tv/ is a failed board, though.

>>31238007

And not a single other mod / janitor isn't?

>/dg/

The hell was that supposed to be?

Is /a/ the second largest board on 4chan?

what /a/ needs is simply better moderation, I want to see moderation so much that me and mod-kun might as well stroke eachother's cocks, you could make a board about being heterosexual and it'd be the best board ever.

>>31237972
You mean we should force all the Big Three fans to go there instead?

I wouldn't mind.

>>31238066
nah, /New/ is a failed board, it became /stormfront/ again in a matter of hours

>>31238092
Well we've got at least /b/ and /v/ ahead.

>>31238076

Doesn't matter. They're already mods. That's the point.

>>31237874
It's more complicated than that.
You delete a thread, and the maker gets butthurt and just replaces it. Banning them for it doesn't do any good, because faggots seem to have unlimited evasion abilities. On anonymous boards, every post is seen as equal, more or less. So banning a user has absolutely no consequences other than not being able to post. On less anonymous boards, people completely ignore posts from no-names because they assume them to be mule accounts of a recently banned fag.

It also doesn't help that mods don't have the time or patience to stalk shitposters who decide to make and remake threads that they know to be shitty. No one here really makes shitty threads intending them to be good. It's always trolls who just want to ruin it for other people.

>>31238020
>Honestly, I frequent /tv/ and a single mod patrolling there just a couple of hours a day would make a difference.

A mod for /tv/ would be impossible to select from the posters of said board because they're all trolls.

I'd say yes to the split. Current /a/ is way too fast for any good discussion. Anything to slow the post rate down would be good.

I really do miss how in the now distant past I could make a post at night, save a link to the thread and go to bed. Wake up the next morning 9 or so hrs latter and continue the discussion in that saved thread.

>>31238081
lots of imagedumps

>>31238092
>Is /a/ the second largest board on 4chan?
third
/b/ -> /v/ -> /a/

>>31238044

Fuck off. A lot of people want /a/ to be split just to get rid of YOU. I mean, how much hate it takes to wish that? A lot, let me tell you.

You guys are a recent problem on this board. And we are dealing with it.

>>31238048

>implying /jp/ could successfully spam /a/

>implying touhou spam is entirely unwelcome

>>31238092
It's /b/, /v/, then /a/.

>>31238092
No /a/ is small time compared to /r9k/ and /sp/

>>31238047

/a/ can be moderated just be deleting waifu threads on sight along with shounen threads that multiply
that alone fixes 80% of the /a/ issues
also ban that wikispamming dude that causes shounen threads to multiply

>>31238138
Thanks for clarifying.

How the fuck would you find decent moderators and janitors out of a website of outcasts and assholes?

>>31237910

>For example, there would be no reason to post about K-ON or Hanamaru Kindergarten in the /manga/ board.

Uhhh..why not? Both of these have manga.

>Likewise, there would be no reason to post about the big3 in /anime/. No one ever posts about the big3 animated adaptations anyway.

But they do have anime, and therefore would still be just as valid in /a/.

You're only looking at it from how it is now in /a/, but under how it would have to work, the reality is you'd have a lot of bitching about which is allowed in which with a split.

moot would be better off just making /a2/ or something.

>>31238138
postan in a moot thread.

>>31238138
/v/?!

How dispicable.

We just need a mod to crack down on spam, complaint threads (like this one), meta threads, and roulette threads.

Also, complaint threads about x anime/manga should be bannable. If x is the Big Three, then the whiner should be permabanned.

Moot, when will we ever get at least some moderation to take care of the spam and raids?

Man, I hate to see a One Piece thread sagebombing like shit here. Please for the love of god, make a manga section.

There's no good reason for a split.

For speed, /a/ is very active, but slow enough that a thread will stick around for an hour or so when its fast and for several when its not.

For content, you rarely see people that seem overly bothered by the current distribution of anime-related vs. manga-related posts.

Why split and have people that would otherwise be participating in both anime and manga discussions move to one side?

>>31238152
Look, I like my touhous too, but if I want images, I'd go to gelbooru.

>>31238173
Find the neets and shut-ins that spend 17hrs daily on 4chan and give them a test drive, I'd say.

>>31238174
thisthisthis.

Bad idea. More moderation would be better.

This kind of split would do nothing, as Big Three shit and moeshit aren't exclusive to either anime or manga. You'd still have the two groups snapping at each other constantly only on two different boards.

>>31238143

>You guys are a recent problem on this board.

How's delusional world doing ya? Most of /a/ has followed at least one of the Big Three for years now.

>>31238143
It's people like you that ruins /a/.

People that can't accept someone else's taste in anime/manga should just keep out/hide threads they don't like. It's as simple as that. But no, we have to have fucking wars on the board involving spam and shit and it isn't helping.

>>31238173
That is why it is difficult

>>31238168
That and force anon.

all the tripfags that actually provided something are gone. all that's left is a massive amount of tripfag circlejerk threads

i don't have enough of an opinion to make a post worth anything but i wanted to say hi to moot. hi moot.

>>31238121

I beg to disagree. Banning people/deleting threads IS a effective method. Remember back in 07, when we had Ecstasy aka Darks? Well, it wasn't even THAT much of a problem, but the mods didn't like it. Everyone was laughing their asses off with it, but the mods said "no", and started to delete the threads and ban the makers of the them.

We were forced to shut up about it, and as a result, a lot of people today don't even know who Ecstasy was. ;_;

>>31238173
>How the fuck would you find decent moderators and janitors out of a website of outcasts and assholes?
PRECISELY

Declare this /a/ anime/random
Redefine /jp/ as japanimation

>Yes and no. Admission to the moderation team is by invite only. Period. The janitor program is occasionally opened up to new applicants. Watch the global message and blotter for notices concerning the application process. If there is no advertised janitor recruitment going on, you're out of luck. Be patient!

>invite only

When was the last time you had a janitor recruitment round, moot?

>>31238205
>implying One Piece threads wouldn't get spammed on a manga board

>>31238173
This has been stated and restated: You don't.

I guarantee that none of the mods here are picked from people who only know moot since AFTER 4chan was formed.

>>31238050

That's only because the only people who really use it are people who don't know it's essentially dead (ie newfriends).

If more of us went there, it could be pretty decent. I think it's a superior setup for pure discussion.

>>31238195
/a/ used to have the second largest post count on 4chan but /v/ took us over somewhere around the 2 million post mark.

>>31238138
moot, PLEASE do not listen to these idiots. You said it yourself: a board split would destroy this place. There wouldn't be anymore interesting discussion, and elitism and whining would be just as rampant, if not more so.

You can't please the people that are asking for two separate boards - they just want a place where they can only discuss series that fit their sense of what a "true 4chan hikikimori" watches, and that place can, by definition, never be anything that you create.

Please moot, no board split or new anime/manga boards.

>>31238251
Speaking of that, did you already pick those janitors from whenever ago, or is that a dead project?

>>31237817
I regularly frequent /a/ and /g/ (and seldom stray outside of them), and I can see plainly that it hardly moves fast enough to negate the effectiveness of even one extra mod or janitor.

Hell, there was a CP thread on the front page of /g/ for over 20 minutes before someone finally paid attention to the post reports and deleted it. That's how bad your moderation problem is.

>>31237817

Hmmm less people than what I thought the place used to have. But even so a split here would be really bad, half of the 'manga for mature people' group if a anime and manga split would happen, all of that group generally hate big3, but their manga's get discussed 2 days a week so the 'shit' travels with them, while the the other shit side which are all the 'moeshit/cutesy/lolDEEP/NOPLOT' and other Anime only, VN or LN adaptions stay on /a/. But that's not going to fix anything, the shit just get's spread out into two boards, possibly becoming better, or simply going stale and slow, but it might also be for the best. IMO, don't split us again, just add more janitors.

>>31238220
>People that can't accept someone else's taste in anime/manga should just keep out/hide threads they don't like
It's not that simple when the front page has 3 Naruto threads, 4 One Piece threads, and has 4 more Bleach threads on page 1.

Condense your fucking shit. I don't care that the white bearded fuck died. I don't care that Naruto told Sakura to shut the fuck up. I don't care that Kubo is making shit up as he writes.
If you want it to be a matter of 'simply' hiding threads, do yourself a favor and refresh the front page a few times before making a damn thread.

>>31238264

You didn't get what I'm pondering, faggot.

>>31238251
I am aware that you don't have the time to follow every single board and every single user to determine their ability to be a reliable janitor/moderator but don't judge every single user from a limited sample.

Hey moot, could you give the janitor in /jp/ moderator privileges?

>>31238251

Well, tbh at this point any kind of moderation.. even if it's too harsh or biased would snap the place into order.
If boards like /co/ can be decently moderated, then there's chance for others also.

>>31238251

Dude, you need to at least give it a fucking try. I don't have a job, college, what the fuck ever. Browsing 4chan is probably the only thing I do with my miserable life. I'm pretty fucking sure there are other like me who could also TRY.

>>31238264
this

haters are going to hate no matter what anyone does. they are a small minority that will never be pleased

>>31238220
As far as i can see, both sides are fucking stupid. The big 3 fans for shitting up front page with constant threads instead of keeping it all in one thread. Hell, even in /v/ monster hunter fans keep it all in one thread. You're getting beaten by /v/ OF ALL PLACES in this aspect. The big 3 haters are morons because /a/ - Anime & Manga is just that, anime and manga. Even if they are shitty this is still the board they belong on and who knows, just because the show is shitty there may still be decent discussion happening.

SUGGESTION: Now that Bakemonogatari has all but finished airing, all threads should be deleted on right away. They've been cluttering up /a/ for quite some time now with nothing brought from it.

I can understand more posts about it when the next episode is aired but between then, FUCK THEM.

>>31238267
>I guarantee that none of the mods here are picked from people who only know moot since AFTER 4chan was formed.
very wrong

>>31238262
>When was the last time you had a janitor recruitment round, moot?
a long time ago

>>31238300
>Looks at front page
>Sees nothing of the sort.

Surely thou mad

All /a/ needs is a Janitor or two.

Or people just use the damn report button more.

>>31238278
i'm not going to split it, hence why i deleted the thread

>>31238251
You could always make them wear bomb collars and tell them that if they're bad at their job you'll blow them up.

But some of us are rational outcasts and assholes. ;_;

Summary: We don't split and we just act mature for once and hide threads you don't like.

>>31238152
When he says "/jp/", I think he means KoG, AoRF.

>>31238359
<3

>>31238346
Reporting doesn't do anything.

>>31238219

Yes, but? This flood is definitely not recent. We only started to get this many complains recently.

>>31238220

It's not about tastes, you faggot. It's about the retardation of the posters.

>>31238300
YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. THERE ARE SERIES (RAILDEX; DTB) THAT FILL UP THE BOARD TWICE AS MUCH AS THE BIG THREE DO, BUT YOU DON'T COMPLAIN BECAUSE YOU HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE SERIES.

Big Three threads are NOT a problem on /a/. It is imaginary.

>>31238332
>just because the show is shitty there may still be decent discussion happening.

I think I'm reading something intelligent on /a/

>>31238362
fuck off

>>31238362
As someone has stated before; hiding does not mean it's gone.

>>31238359
/thread

>>31238346
To bad report doesn't seem to do shit.

>>31238332
I'm not even trying to persecute any specific fanbase. I'm just trying to say that if somebody doesn't like a certain genre or series, don't post about how much you fucking hate it. Ignore it. Hide it. Leave it alone. There is no fucking point in starting a flame war because then we get innocent people getting pissed off as well and just more and more spam coming from both sides, and in the end, everyone fucking loses.

>>31238251
You know, it's kind of ironic that the lord of 4chan is bound by such a foolishly generalized presumption.

>>31238340
You could...hold a new one? Even if it nets you just one good janitor, it's worth it.

>>31238383
Do you know why those fill up the board?
Because it's the newest flavor. Once this season ends, once those series end, they'll go away.

But guess what: The Big Three never end.

>>31238380
>Yes, but? This flood is definitely not recent. We only started to get this many complains recently.
No, it's been this way for almost three years. If you don't know that, then just shut up on the matter, because you don't know what you're talking about.

Big Three hate is about certain people on /a/ feeling that they are mature - nothing more, nothing less.

>>31238300

Simple solution, keep 1 thread (the largest or most on topic, and have the janitor delete the multiple threads, it will take a while for people to learn) but most big3 threads I see that have multiple threads all about the same topic are either A FEW HOURS apart, image/bump limit reached, or as of late the moment it has too many trolls/imagebomb/wiki spam, THEY MAKE A NEW ONE, adding shit to shit just makes more shit, it's a hole the wiki and imagebombs made themselves.

>>31238373
whats a brotha gotta do around here to be appointed mod

Give a one-week trial period for this. Let's see how this would work, moot.

what a needs is more moderation, not some shitty split.

MOOT IF YOU'RE STILL HERE, PLEASE GIVE US A PHILOSOPHERS BOARS, /sci/ FAGS ARE SUCH AND ASSHOLES AND IT ALWAYS END UP IN RELIGION SHIT. PLEASE PLEASE ONEGAI MOOT SAMA.

/lit/ WON'T RECIEVE US EITHER, AND I CAN ASURE THERE ARE A LOT OF MY KIND.

..Why would you need separate anime and manga boards?

I mean

just

why?

>>31238416

That still doesn't give them any more of a right to shit up the front page.

>>31238383
The same could be said for you. wednesdays-thursdays page 0 is about nothing but Big 3. How's that not a problem? Oh right, because you like Big 3 and not Raildex.

In fact it's the people who don't like either that got shafted on those days.

>>31238413
>You know, it's kind of ironic that the lord of 4chan is bound by such a foolishly generalized presumption.
PRECISELY

Giving popular stuff stickies might work like someone mentioned.

Create a Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece sticky and tell them to keep any chapter discussion there. It is annoying having to see the front page on Wednesdays with not just Naruto/Bleach/One Piece threads on the SAME EXACT TOPIC, but also threads complaining about them.

>>31238373

Moot what do you plan to do with this website?
Are you attempting to lower numbers to decrease traffic or boost numbers so as to Increase....popularity?

Its hard to understand your moves.

Sticky this damn thread so we can all enjoy a good old chat

So, moot.
You ever going to split /v/ into two?

>>31238416
And? They get replaced by something just as crappy and space filling. You're not on a crusade against things that fill up the front page; you are on a crusade against the Big Three because you feel they don't belong here. Just admit it.

>>31238346
Report buttons don't do anything if there are no mods

>>31238400
How about you just ignore it, disregarding how many threads there are.
OR. OR.
Make a better thread, if you think those are horrible.
Now, if multiple amounts of people do this, we get a good result.or possibly bad

>>31238450
I know, right?

Force anon, make me a mod, and problems will get solved

i think that would be nice

Split them in the same board ;)

>>31238437
/x/

I think /b/ should be split between I and 3

Just give everyone janitor privileges and see how things go.

Hey moot did you see the new So Long Mr. Despair OP?
That shit is like being on Acid.

moot, please trust us enough to pick more janitors. Please? Some of us enjoy 4chan.

>>31238437
i actually agree with this
either that or a no religion rule cause 80% of the threads are religion

i know that i would never want to be a janitor

>>31238450
are you actually trying to get some more?

>>31238450
PRECISELY!

>>31238467
I could go for this.

/sp/ mods do this, and it works great. I would love to have stickies for currently running series when important events take place.

>>31238442
Of course it doesn't, but at least they'll go away in time.

Your Big Three shit doesn't.

>>31238467
>Create a Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece sticky
No.
If we're talking about stickies, create an anime recommendation sticky. Makes more sense than three permanent threads on the front page that will get 10000+ posts in the first 3 days.

>>31238332
>>31238300
We wouldn't be getting so many fucking shonen threads if trolls weren't spamming the shit out of them.

Initially when a chapter comes out, we'll probably see a few threads, but eventually, they die out and /a/ chooses only one to post in. But more and more recently, people have been spamming the shit out of these threads, which cause other anons to make another thread to talk spam-free, but then that gets spammed and we enter this endless cycle of threads.

Stop the spam, and I'm pretty sure we'd see the number of shonen threads drop considerably.

>>31238380
I like greentext in moderation ;_;

We need a Kenshiro mod.

>>31238490
>manga board
>while waiting for ep 7 subs

How about a /manga/ and /anime/ split.

Here's my reasoning.
manga will obviously be dominated by shounen threads but they won't be saged and bombed by moefags so they won't multiply at an alarming rate
this will also give seinen and alternative manga more room to be discussed and threads can develop and not be bumped off by "look at how cute my waifu is" threads.

/anime/ can obviously remain in the hands of currently popular show discussions, recommendation threads and the usual "isn't girl from show X cute"

The main problem with /a/ is that these two camps are at each other's throats as it is, so a split is natural imho
This way they/we are just spamming the fuck out of each other as a reaction to a previous spam or we're just trying to bump a relevant thread so it doesn't get drowned out

>>31238400
so what? why does it have to be gone? just fucking deal with shit you don't like. /a/ moves fast, so is this really just THAT hard to do? This board isn't made for YOU anyway, everyone here needs to realize that. All you faggots just need to calm the shit down, make threads you like instead of bitching about everything you don't like. If there's nothing you like, go fucking do something else for half an hour, you don't have to live here for fuck's sake.

i like dtb

>>31238481
>force anon

Can I be a mod?

>>31238503
i agree. i cant believe that you cannot find good ones, the gains really outweighs the risks here

>>31238400
It also isn't technically a feature of 4chan. Realizing that everyone has it, it still requires a firefox extension to use. Saying "Hide threads you don't like" would be an irresponsible move unless thread hiding were hard coded into 4chan's features, and not just the most popular 4chan related extension. There's also the fact that hiding half the threads on the front page means that the front page looks barren. Who likes browsing a board when you have 2-3 threads worth choosing from, and the rest are overlapping topics from a show that came out that day?

I wish more fans could be like Sora no Woto fans, and militiantly chase down outcast threads that are unnecessary when there is an active "Main" thread.

>implying moot will find a new mod

Come to think about it, if moot really split this board into /animu/ and /mango/, which board will be shittier ?

>>31238474

There has to be someone, specially for one of the largest boards.

God dammit let me do it, I'm spend more time on here then anything else in my day ;_;

>>31238479
>OR MAKE GOOD THREADS TO COUNTER
I think you should know that /a/'s ratio of good threads to bad thread are few and far in between. Plus good threads are ignored for the other threads.

hey moot its been 5 years can i get over using your fucking website soon or am i doomed to be here until i die or something

>>31238543
Since you asked,no.

part of the so called "Big 3 problem" is that dumbshitmcwikispam SPAMS THREADS THAT WERE ALREADY DROPPING OFF THE FUCKING BOARD.

>>31238530
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>>31238383
raildex dtb suck balls, most of us don't like 90 of those threads up at a time

>>31238467

I think this would be great.

Make a sticky for a series on the day it's new issue comes out (Big3 mainly), and delete any threads that pop up in order to keep discussion in a single thread.

>>31238543
I believe it is against the rules to actually ask to be a mod.

>>31238539

>>31238543

no

can i be a janitor?

>>31238467
Or maybe there should just be a search function for threads. Then people would have no excuse to make a new thread and anyone who makes a thread when there are already several gets their ass banned.

>>31238467
I agree with this. I think it is an excellent idea.

All shounen haters have to do is hide the one damn thread, and poof! Everyone's happy.

Moot, why the fuck don't you just HIRE mods/janitors
O WAIT U GOTS NO MONIES CUZ OF US LOLOLOL

>>31238576
That would require mods.


Well! We're back to square one, now, aren't we?

>>31238468
huh?

>>31238469
it already is. the other board is called "/b/".

Considering how things are going, what are the actual chances of having new janitors added/recruited in near future?

>>31238536
/manga/ would be at war with itself, because the people who hate the Big Three are the people who read historical, grimdark seinen (Sanctuary, Vagabond, etc).

/anime/ would be nothing but moe-of-the-week trolling.

Don't fool yourself; a split would kill anime and manga discussion forever.

>>31238604
janitors work for free dumbass

>>31238558
>I'm spend more time on here then anything else in my day ;_;

This isn't necessarily a positive quality for a mod applicant. Janitors / mods shouldn't be the people who helplessly obsess over the site. They're usually the biased ones.

>>31238556

Animu, kids these days don't have the attention span to read Mango

>>31238604
el oh el it's tru!!!!!!!!!!

>>31238527
Wikispammer isn't a troll, he's a script-kiddie asshole who doesn't like One Piece, so he decides to be a vigilante

Look, if Moot thinks he needs mods/janitors, he'll find one.

>>31238616
>it already is. the other board is called "/b/".
I thought it was called '/a/'.

>>31238616
>it already is. the other board is called "/b/".

phew, /v/ just got tooollldddd

>>31238576
Stupid, unneeded, and over the top.

>>31238479

You are fucking stupid. Last week, there was a new round of Big3 chapters released. So to try to get something different going I made a Now and Then, Here and There thread.

I got a single answer, saying "don't know it but it looks shit". And that's it.

When the board is under their siege, there isn't room for anything else.

>>31238638
stop sucking up tripfag

>>31238621

But both boards would move slower and there would be less need to infight and spam threads.

I think its our fault that that the quality of this board went down hill

I mean if we just respect peoples taste and stop shitting threads just because a select group hates it this place would be better

>>31238535
so u get the idea, motherfucker

>>31238593
There's nothing wrong with having more than one thread about a single series, as long as the topics are different, though.

If there is a different type of discussion going on, then it's OK to have multiple threads, as long there isn't too many of them at one time.

1. get mods/janitors
2. ban trolls/imagespammers/gorespammer
3. problem kinda solved?

>>31238629
>This isn't necessarily a positive quality for a mod applicant. Janitors / mods shouldn't be the people who helplessly obsess over the site. They're usually the biased ones.
mod qualifications: must be hikikomori~

Moot, remember what you told us.

STAY THE COURSE, CHRISTOPHER.

STAY. THE. COURSE.

Actually i like that idea.

Instead of trying to boost mod numbers. Why don't you tackle the image spam issue.

>>31238635

>>31238640

seems you haven't been on /v/ recently.

>>31238450
And then it becomes downright hilarious to consider that the only place on the internet where these "outcasts and assholes" can find anything even close to a halcyon acceptance is itself being torn apart at the seams by the sheer weight of their swelling numbers.
Then it becomes obvious that it's simply not to be—there really is no solution unless the users miraculously take it upon themselves one by one by one. And they'll never do that, because they're outcasts and assholes.
Ah, delicious irony. So sweet.

>>31238536

Most of the time I can't tell if half of the people on this board TRULY are 2D only, need their waifu, only want DFC, love loli only, want to be a little girl, want to be a trap etc. SO it's hard to see if half the board really thinks like this or are they just going with the flow for the sake of it?

>>31238637
Still, because of him, others are starting to believe that /a/ actually hates shonen, which isn't necessarily true. Then others start joining the whole sage-ing/spamming cause because THEY'RE SO COOL XDDDDD

>>31238621
"grimdark" seinen is far superior to the garbage you shovel in weekly.

As long as we're talking about mods, moot, on what level do you aknowledge /co/? I know it has a rarely-seen and rarely active moderator but the lack of staff attention the board gets has degenerated it badly.

Create a separate board for the "big 3"?

Would solve a lot of the arguements.

>>31238629
So you're telling me that the mods/janitors should be people who don't really like being here and don't really give a shit about the quality of 4chan, instead treating it as a job?

Did reading those janitor applications really suck that much?

>>31238616
Ba dum psh.

>>31238658
Spam isn't done to fix movement and queue problems; it's done to make people angry and to send a message that the spammer doesn't feel that the said series "belongs" on /a/.

Spam would only get worse with a boards split, not better.

>>31238627
>implying I caps-locked "hire" for no emphasizing reasons whatsoever

>>31238650

Have you figured it out why yet?

Most of /a/ enjoy at least one of the Big Three.

>>31238616
Dohoho.

>>31238647
It hurts because its true.

>>31238174

>Uhhh..why not? Both of these have manga.

True, my post was flawed, but you can't deny that there are are a ton more K-ON, or whatever, anime threads as opposed to the occasional one devoted to the manga.

From what I've seen, manga threads tend to have better replies, even if it's fanservice-centered.

>But they do have anime, and therefore would still be just as valid in /a/.

Yes, from a logical standpoint this is true. But again, there's logic and then there's what is actually happening. Example, One Piece posters generally don't start threads devoted to the anime (they just don't). There may be Naruto/Bleach anime threads, but I honestly can't see them getting that many replies in comparison to the manga-devoted threads. To them, the manga is superior to the anime due to filler and whatever excuse.

While I agree that moderation would be better, since I've come here /a/ has only gotten worse. I'm assuming there will never be decent moderation.

I start with the worse case scenario and work my way up.

>>31238655
But I'm not.
I'm only giving suggestions.
and other things.

>>31238670

Well, sign me in!

>>31238467
I don't think a sticky would do a damn thing.
I honestly don't believe there is a particularly large population of people here who actually enjoy Bleach or Naruto.

There is however a large population here who do enjoy seeing people try to enjoy their free time on an image board, and failing due to rehashed content. The spammed threads aren't because they actually think they're the only ones making a thread. It's because they want to spam, plain and simple.

>>31238672
man i say great shit

>>31238665
yea but its usually the same PAGE without any comment...

>>31238670
AND THEN, EVERYONE ON /a/ WAS A JANITOR

>>31238670
And suddenly half of /a/'s userbase decides to quit their job/drop out of school.

>>31238346
at my risk of getting in trouble, no, there REALLY needs to be more fuckers to mod around here. this is my last week and a half of reports , I have never reported anything that was not coming from fucking /b/ or /r9k/, even though I just facepalmed during the 1st day of>myface threads that made me leave for 4 days, never reported waifu, naruto, etc, etc. And I could have been happy if about 10% of them did not reach 220 posts or were actually deleted by someone.

we've already got plenty of mods what are you guys complaining about?

>>31238665
>as long as the topics are different,
Define "different".

Are...
>One Piece chapter 348 spoilers!
and
>what onepiece couple is the best?
...different? Different enough to constitute two threads?

>>31238718
Will you have sex with me?

in order to be a mod, do you have to be 'promoted' from a janitor?

are we eventually going to get that daily changing poster id hash thing that allows us to filter out specific anonymous posters?

>>31238650
It's just the damn time of day. I can't always make threads for obscure series I like, but I don't try to blame that on another series. Just try your luck again later, and move on.

>>31238621
>/anime/ would be nothing but moe-of-the-week trolling.

LIKE IT USED TO BE BEFORE YOU FAGS CAME RAPING EVERYTHING.

The mods/janitors watch over certain boards or do they have to take care of each one?

>>31238724
By the way, I was talking about people not using the report function enough.

>>31238673
You're not going to tackle any of the boards' problems without an appropriately sized and competent moderation team.

Why /manga/ is good
A Dorohedoro (for example) thread would not be bumped off the board because it would be difficult to even notice by fans.
One Piece/Naruto/Bleach threads would not be spammed to death by pictures of cute girls "just because".
There would be no need for 20 OP/N/B retaliation threads because of the previously stated thing.
People would discuss manga more, in all forms.

Also, the split would inherently slow down both boards so the threads won't fly around and compete with each other so the actual speed of both boards would fall below 50% of the current for each.

>>31238718
Can I have what you're drinking?
I want to say great shit too

>>31238703
spam will remain pretty much constant no matter what, because nothing can be done about it. and you're right; all spammers camp in the threads they spam because they are hoping for people to get upset, that's why they do it, for the attention

>>31238699
Actually, my point is that relatively sane people would make decent moderators. You don't have to agree though, moot as you can tell didn't either.

>>31238742
Jantors are board-specific, Mods are general.

>>31238629

This is true, but its obvious what threads should be cleaned up

Waifu threads for example, we don't need 10 of them a day.

Fuck

>>31238650
BAWWWWWW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE SO I'LL TROLL THEM BAWWWWWWW

Real mature, brah.

Out of all the admins we could have gotten, moot was pretty much the worst choice. Hell, not even anyone in RH liked him.

There are no mods on 4chan because moot is a little faggot who won't listen to the few decent friends he had. When I hear Shii and other cool people saying "I dunno, moot won't talk to me or anyone else anymore," I can't help but lose a lot of respect for the guy.

You know what would fix a lot of stuff?
a) Turn all janitors into local mods. Being a janitor is a really ingrate and pointless job. You delete spam and it just comes back because you can't ban the idiot who's running his little happy spam script. Let the janitors place local bans for, say, a max of 2 days. With the option of forwarding the ban to a global mod so he can lengthen the ban if required.

b) Put up some sort of mod accessible spam blacklist interface. All this dumb spam would be easily mitigated if a random mod could just throw a few words in the blacklist whenever we got targeted.

c) Get more local mods from the community. Not that hard, really.

>>31238727
I see multiple threads just like that for other series all the time, and you don't complain, nor does anyone else.

Just admit that you have it in for the Big Three. You think that they are not "mature" or "underground" enough to qualify for posting on 4chan, and that's why you want them gone.

Hey moot, while you're here you should go tell the fags in /jp/ that it's not just for touhou and j-idols.

Hey moot, when are you gonna host tinychan?

>>31238742
mods are global, janitors board-specific.

>>31238717
>I honestly don't believe there is a particularly large population of people here who actually enjoy Bleach or Naruto.
I agree. I think it's just a really vocal minority

moot - Do you still like One Piece?

>>31238670

>>31238727

>One Piece chapter 348 spoilers!
is a lot different than your second example.

one is NEW CONTENT, the other is HURR GAIAFAGSHIT

>>31238722
/a/ has been infested with normal people for about 3 years, bob.

>>31238665
If there's already a "general one piece thread", why would you need a "Which one piece girl is the best" thread at that moment? Have a little patience so the rest of us can enjoy a somewhat diverse board.

Besides, your one piece girl topic is not interesting enough to warrant it's own thread. You can have more than one discussion per thread you know. (See: Sora no Woto threads for examples of this)

NO WAIT

I GOT IT

HOW ABOUT WE STOP COMPLAINING AND ACTUALLY BE THE CHANGE!

I think I could be a good mod/janitor

I'm not asking to be one necessarily.

I just think that shitty posters deserve to be banned, or at the very least have their posts deleted

Threads that are technically against the letter of the rules, but keep with the spirit of the board and also contain or provoke constructive conversation, or produce quality OC are good and should stay

But even if a thread is technically /a/-related, if it's shitty and non-productive, it deserves to be removed or banned.

>>31238703

But it causes faster creation of threads, faster posting and a faster moving board.
That's the problem.
Spam directly clogs up the board and also causes more threads OF THE SAME TOPIC to be created as a retaliation.

>>31238724
I remember when someone posted CP on /v/ and it stayed up for a good hour and a half.
An hour and a half of reporting and no mods came to aid. Shit was surprisingly hilarious and terrible at the same time.

A split is stupid. I'm glad you are not going to do it.
All we really need is more janitors/mods to delete the fucking spam / CP / etc.

Oh, one thing I want to add while I have the chance since the mods never, ever seem to notice and/or think it's a bad thing:

TRIPFAG FAGGOTRY

Seriously, fucking "SHIN VS HOLIC" or whoever the fuck is "fighting" who is fucking rediculous. We don't need tier lists on tripfags, we don't need tripfags talking about their chats they have had in ventrilo or whatever the fuck they use, i'm so tired of this more than anything else that is posted here.

I rewatched Endless 8 once just to prove to myself that nothing could be as bad as that shit.

>>31238350
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>>31238350
>>31238350
>>31238350
>>31238350
>>31238350

The man has spoken.

Also, I agree on nonsplitting but in favor of more/better janitor/mods.

>>31238727
I'd say so, yeah.

People discussing a manga's new chapter =/= people who ship for that series. There might be some lapping over, but you can't just generalize that much without ruining everything.

>>31238717

But there are people who do, and I believe that the board spam would decrease if there is a thread dedicated to it.

Mods/janitors wouldn't have to think about what threads to delete. If someone makes a thread whent here's already a sticky, they can be sure said person is just trolling and delete/ban.

>>31238737
It really shouldn't have to come to that. It really shouldn't.
Part of the blessing of anonymity is that you can be forgiven for saying something mind-blowingly stupid as long as you realize your mistake, and move on without anyone being the wiser but you. It's terrible to think that this lovely little feature in and of itself would become a problem to be dealt with administratively.

>>31238672
That's pic's still the best post ever.

>>31238787
Your 'spoilers' are going to be translated by one of the 15 groups translating OP within a day or two.
What kind of spoilers are they?

Fuck, I have to wait 2 months for my chapter, then an extra month for someone to bother scanlating it.
Faggots don't know how good they got it.

>>31238751
>One Piece/Naruto/Bleach threads would not be spammed to death by pictures of cute girls "just because".
I find this very difficult to believe. This is because I can see a manga board we considerably Big Three related due to their popularity. As a result, fans of other manga would probably eventually get sick of it, and we'd get a similar situation to what we already have here on /a/.

>>31238770
too easy and logical, therefor wont ever happen

>>31238764
>Waifu threads for example, we don't need 10 of them a day.

Are you trying to say we do?

>>31238650

This is because the new chapter shit can last 24 hours or more until EVERYONE on the board had their fix, some of these people are not on /a/ 24/7 so they may only just read the chapter 24 hours after it comes out because slowpoke.jpg...and with that they make a thread to talk about it.

>>31238799

This is the funniest post on 4chan at the moment.

I'll admit. I have a Dakimakura.

>>31238767
The fuck? I made a thread to have some DIFFERENT discussion, you chucklefuck. Not the same HURR I THINK LUFFY IS THE STRONGEST.

>>31238799
Oh, I'm sorry Nancy, but they won't stop whining.
Got any other ideas?

Something sure needs to be done. /a/ is unbearable. moot and modcat seem to think that the unholy trinity aren't a problem, but the posters they invite, style of posting the threads seem to bring about, the fact that they spam the board constantly (I shouldn't have page after page of hidden threads), and the fact that they will never end are all problems. The never ending part is the biggest problem, because most series that get spammed on /a/ like Gurren Lagann, Haruhi, Lucky Star, Geass etc, those shows actually end and they do eventually fade away. Sure, you might find a thread about them every now and then, but the series is over and so all we can do is discuss what happened and post images. This isn't the case with the unholy trinity. Since they will never end it means that the userbase of those shows will continue to increase and continue to spam /a/ week after week. I can't tell you how tired I am of seeing LOLKUBOTROL (not that I'm singling out Bleach here, because the other two aren't faultless). Mods need to do something about this, and stop dismissing it as "Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece *are* anime and manga, thus they are /a/ related. If you don't like it, hide the threads." The problem isn't the series, it's the userbase. It's the fact that they can't seem to keep their stuff in one thread. They feel compelled to create new threads despite 4 threads already on the front page about the same thing. /a/ scrolls a lot faster than it used to, and so if a person creates about a series, say Mushishi for example, that thread can instantly go to another page as a result of the spamming. s

You know how you have a /m/ is for Mecha, why don't you make a /sh/ board for Shounen stuff? That 'should' theoretically please everybody, as most of the conflict on /a/ is derived from it.

I am in favor of the split, 2 boards, both slower, threads stay in the front page for more time, hopefully people spend less time complaining in metathreads and actually contribute to the board.

My personal opinion is that a board is only as good as the people who post on it, yet I can't see the reason not to try.

What happened to /jp/s janitor? I haven't seen him around since the whaling incident.

>>31238829

Not really since it is obvious that while the big three fans troll each other IN DISCUSSIONS, they rarely spam each others' threads with images or wiki articles (at least imho).
it is obvious that butthurt moefags are to blame for spamming these threads as they consider themselves to be threatened by "casual" shounen

>>31238829
This is why I agree with the idea of having a weekly sticky for Big Three spoilers and chapter discussion, with other threads about that kind of thing being bannable during the stickys' life.

>>31238799
No, /a/ can't handle that. That's too advanced for us here, obviously.

>>31238815

Also, the userbase wouldn't accept these threads either if there's already a sticky dedicated to the topic.

>>31238780
Yes, its probably a vocal minority. If the majority of /a/ actually truly hated the big 3 then a shit ton of lurkers would stop lurking and shit all over the thread, instead of one script kiddie faggot with an ego doing it.

>>31238799
that's a great idea.

so stop talking and set an example. stop whining.

>>31238812
Oh, okay, okay.

Then, of course,
>what onepiece couple is the best?
and
>what kind of devil fruit power would you want?
are both very different threads that each deserve their own separate threads, right?

Wow, that's three threads over JUST One Piece on the front page now!

>>31238815
I guess. But they could just read post counts and keep the large one, ban any smaller ones.

Or, if a sticky really is necessary (I hate this idea because it legitimatizes the thought that the big three MUST ALWAYS HAVE A THREAD AT ALL TIMES), it should be a special "bottom of page 1" instead of top sticky.

>>31238871

>unbearable

The fuck's your problem, faggot?

>>31238871
It doesn't matter if the series you hate end or not, because they just get replaced with MORE series you hate that end up wallpapering the front page, just like their predecessors did.

Stop trying to single out the Big Three as some sort of special problem. There are less threads about them in a week than whatever else is currently airing seasonally.

>>31238811
I don't care what anyone says.

I can live with seeing threads about anime and video games (in /v/) that I hate.

I can't live with seeing another CALL DA AMBALANCE/Post ending in thread.

My problem with 4chan isn't that it's a place full of assholes, it's that it's a place full of assholes and idiots who think every board is Random.

>>31238770
So is Shii going to tell us his real name now that he's finished up with Everything Shii Knows, or what?

>>31238871
if it's unbearable, how are you still bearing it?

I like this place.
If I didn't, I would have left and never looked back.

>>31238799
I'M STARTING WITH THE FAG IN THE MIRROR~
I'M ASKING HIM TO CHANGE HIS WAYS~
AND NO MESSAGE COULDA BEEN ANY CLEARER~
IF YA WANNA MAKE 4CHAN A BETTER PLACE,
TAKE A LOOK AT YOURSELF AND MAKE A CHANGE~

Stickying the big three wouldn't work.
Why?
Because there would be faggots making threads about how their favorite animu and mango isn't getting stickied but the Big 3 are. Then they'll proceed to shit in the stickies and spam new threads about how the stickies are bad.

>>31238874

/m/ isn't just for mecha anime, but mecha in general.

>>31238874

THIS.

There is a /m/ thread and it works like a charm.
Create a /manga/ board.
Shounen will go there as will the occasional seinen thread and it will probably be a peaceful board.

/a/ will always have /b/-like problems but removing the manga part will make it slower and more manageable

>>31238914

You get that with alot of series...particularly anything still airing, overly popular etc. Which that fits into.

My balls are stinking.

>>31238913
I was being sarcastic. /a/ will never try to improve the board and I'm not helping either.

>>31238350
I love you moot.

>>31238914
Yes, they are all separate topics. But why can't the fags have 3 topics in one thread? Again, see Sora no Woto threads for examples of this being done splendidly.

It can be done.
It should be done.
Your "Idea for a new topic" is not a justification to fill the front page with only one series.

>>31238955
really nice example you set for us there. Wanting everyone to change so things can be better for you.

How come NOTHING IS BEING DONE about the gorespammer and the persistent Bakemonogatari threads?


FUCK ME

>>31238819
much as i love being anonymous, the thread based/daily changing (forget how it worked) hash system that some other board seemed super handy
you didn't even see it was there unless you had an addon, and it was pretty much just used to prevent samefaggotry from being not obvious/too annoying

>>31238874
I agree.

>>31238970
You're attacking me, but I'm agreeing with you.

>>31238970

Are you blind?

Because EVERY single OP thread gets spammed sooner or later.
EVERY single one.

>>31238871
>>31238871
>>31238871

>>31238970
On that note, it should be said that if your "idea" is ACTUALLY worth talking about, it will get replies, even if it isn't the OP post. If it goes ignored, that is for a good reason. Plain and simple. Stop making new threads because you think your topic is divergent enough to justify it.

>>31238945

Some aspects of /a/ are amusing, others (spam, imagebombing, wiki spam, 10 waifu, recommend, general attempt-a-troll) are in the way.

>>31238828
hey moot could you make some sort of auto-ban for posts that are NOTHING BUT GREENTEXT?

>>31238874
That would kill both boards. You're not thinking it through.

Is Railgun shounen? Is Cowboy Bebop? See, anime, unlike manga, doesn't get printed in magazines that have a specific demographic. It wouldn't be clear what was shounen or not.

Also, shounenfags hate each other. FMA fans are just as elitist as Berserk fans, if not more so. It'd be Big Three vs. The World all over again, just like it is right now on /a/.

And, most importantly, that would make both boards move as slow as molasses, effectively killing them.

Just as an example, there's a Yotsuba& porn thread currently going on.
It's been there for a while.

>>31238983
enlighten us all then, great sage, on how you can derive which botnets the spammers are using and track their dynamic IP addresses so the bans can follow them whatever proxy they use.

1. Ban image/wiki/songspammers on sight, rangeban gorespammer and avatarfags.

2. Make the report function actually do something.

3. Set more strict guidelines on what's actually allowed on the board, so that the haters of whatever hated type of thread can shut the fuck up and stop whining about it and go post threads that are related to their interests instead.

There.

>>31238970
Because /a/non is an idiot who is most likely from /b/ and or a troll and can nor will not do it.

This is for the fuckheads who don't understand why we hate Big3 so much.

moot what would happen If you got rid of all the other broads except for /b/?

>>31238874
Honestly, shounen is too broad a demographic to simply split up.

moot, you have a sexy jawline

also, you should make me a janitor

this thread

>>31238940

I thought about this, and you do have a point.

It doesn't have to be limited to big 3, just anything that causes too many threads and bitching.

It is risky, but we could at least try it out and see how it works.

>>31239034

The entire point is that we need a person with NO LIFE to janitor /a/ practically 24-7.

>>31239046

>>31238931
Waffleman, you're a Michael Jackson fan?

As much as I wish I could be a mod (not on /a/ though, but /co/) I know it's never happening because apparently I am a terrible troll.

moot, give us a chance before condemning us.

>>31239000
That isn't the board's problem. Report the spam, or make a new thread when the bump limit has maxed out, NOT before then.

That's what a certain other group of fans I've mentioned three times in this thread does.

Make stickies for the big 3, shove them at the end of page 10.

>>31238914
>each deserve their own separate threads, right?

Yes, unless you can imagine how having one big thread with a bunch of topics can function at all. 1 thread - 1 topic is the only thing that works, general topics don't turn out well.

>Wow, that's three threads over JUST One Piece on the front page now!
>implying threads don't get pushed down when a more active topic is being discussed

>>31239076

>>31238332
>The big 3 haters are morons because /a/ - Anime & Manga is just that, anime and manga. Even if they are shitty this is still the board they belong on and who knows, just because the show is shitty there may still be decent discussion happening.
I'm so tired of hearing this arguement. pretty much everything that gets posted on /jp/ has an anime or manga and there used to be plenty of good threads when that shit was still part of /a/ but guess what, fags complained and it got exiled. wanting to get rid of the big 3 is no different from all the people who complained about clannad and underwaterrayromano threads right before /jp/ was made.

>>31239072
Well, actually, it'd have to be two hikkis, on opposite sides of the planet. You know, to cover each others' sleeping habits.

>>31239046
Just stop. This argument is so horrifically biased, it's not funny. It's actually scary that there are idiots who convinced themselves that this is logic.

Probably the biggest flaw you morons refuse to acknowledge is that FULL METAL ALCHEMIST IS MORE POPULAR IN THE UNITED STATES THAN ONE PIECE IS.

If you really hate mainstream crap that's ruining /a/, you should be rallying against Bleach, Naruto, and FMA, because One Piece is underground compared to the latter.

>>31239087
>when the bump limit has maxed out
Hey, you know what spam does unnaturally fast?

>>31239028

The whole board (5 people) are all posting and reading this thread.

>>31238926
>it's a place full of assholes and idiots who think they own the board

>>31238770
nice job relying on one-sided information from people i haven't been in contact with for five years!

>a) Turn all janitors into local mods.
all janitors were made global a few months ago
>b) Put up some sort of mod accessible spam blacklist interface.
already exists
>c) Get more local mods from the community. Not that hard, really.
finding quality mods in an anonymous community sure is easy

>>31239114
>general topics don't turn out well.
What?
Do you come to /a/ solely for the Big Three threads?
General threads work out fine!

>>31238778
soon, hopefully

>>31239115
And a tl;dr to all out illiterate friends.

>>31239072
I have no life and practically go on /a/ for hours
and no one really knows me, so it's all good.

>>31239122
But moot admitted that he regrets that decision. Besides, VNs and Japan threads are not the same as something that is legitimately an anime or a manga (like the Big Three).

>>31239139 all janitors were made global a few months ago

Global janitors or global monitors?