No, use C#.

Java is more moe than C

how does that make you feel?

Using Haskell made me HNNNNNNGGGG

Java is a moeblob, use Cobol instead

>>30021628

fgsfds

>>30021667

First thing I thought when I saw this.

>>30021693
Same here

I'm a fucking nerd

>>30021588

>Implying C++ is not vastly superior than C#

Yotsuba would probably write everything in assembly.

>>30021693
same...then again i'm a computer programming major atm so....

>>30021752
Yotsuba codes with a magnetized spoon.

How did this turn into a PS3 has no games thread?

>>30021733
>has never used C#

>>30021789
Yotsuba writes the binaries directly to the hard drive.

Using only her mind.

>>30021810
C# is basically Java by Microsoft.

C/C++ is totally different.

java is moe

>>30021810
>use Windev to code

Makoto used Visual Basic. Now he's dead.

Don't let your friends use VB.

Javascript is more moe

>>30021842
Correction: C# is a much improved Java by Microsoft where the only downside is that it's only implemented on Windows, and partially implemented on Linux (Mono). In terms of ease of use, it's much better than Java (I've used all 3 -- C++, C#, and Java). C++ is fine for most development, but there are still times when I wish I didn't have to deal with the hackishness of C++ (yes, it's very hacky, especially if you're doing advanced stuff, for instance, trying to emulate some of the crazy shit that Boost libraries do).

>>30021841
Fuck, why did I scroll over it? I was just scrolling down the front page mindlessly...

it's a trademark

>>30021919
>by Microsoft where the only downside

You also forgot the biggest downside.
>Microsoft

They have complete control over the language, thus, control over the developer industry and the software they make with it.

>>30021810
I'd have to agree that C++ is a lot better. Resource wise I don't really like Java.

ITT - trolling /g/ on /a/

>>30021919
C++ is way fucking faster though... that's why it's still the most popular language in the world along with C. Not quite sure which one is actually on top, but either way... C++ > all.

I feel like I'm going crazy. I can't tell what's /a/ /g/ and /v/ anymore.

>>30021919
>hackiness

OH GOD HOW DOES I SYNTAX ERROR?

>>30022024
Throw in /v/ and you've pretty much got it.

>>30021994
And they've done a good job with it so far. Microsoft has one of the largest R&D budgets for language development. They're always showing off new stuff at the PDC (developer's conference). Some shit dies off after a while. Some shit makes it in and is a decently big hit. C# and its evolution is one of them.

>>30022027
C# is, from what I've heard only up to 2x slower. That's not bad at all, for a clean, garbage-collected language, with a lot of room to grow. Compare that to interpreted languages like Python which are an order of magnitude slower than C++.

ITT: Idiots who can't control the vast power of pythons.

>>30022091
If you don't know what I'm talking about, then you've never tried to implement something complex with C++ templates. And no, std::vector<int> is not what I mean by complicated template stuff.

To start, you can check out boost::bind().

>>30022027
C++ Advantages: Object-oriented paradigm.
C Advantages : You can program your socks with it.

I'm still hesitant to learn C# simply because you lose control over your computing environment.

>>30022102
Oh god Python.
Such a thing should not exist.
But yeah, if it really is only 1/2 as fast as C++ that is pretty good... guess it just seems so much slower since I'm used to programming in C++.

>>30022117
And one idiot who actually thinks Python is any good.
Hope you like waiting 3 years for your program to execute.

>>30022117
Python programmer here. I just don't get into retarded opinion fights.

>>30022160
It all depends on how much you trust Microsoft to not screw over developers. Frankly, I'd give them 75% of my trust. That's enough. Also, you can simply run (like I said) Mono for Linux, or an earlier version of the .NET framework, if they ever decide to do something which fucks you over.

>>30022160
>lose control over your computing environment
what is this i don't even

Japanese hot spring sign is older than Java.
Baka gaijin are so stupid.

Screw /g/, I think this thread has just turned into /prog/.

>>30022139

OH GOD HOW DOES I LAMBDA EXPRESSION

>>30022192
>if they ever decide to do something which fucks you over
This why I avoid .NET languages.

>>30022196
Is there an open source interpreter for Microsoft C#?

>>30022254
HAHAHAHAno.

>>30022254
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=open+source+c%23+interpreter
Also no.

>>30022254
You mean for Windows or Linux? Like I said, check out Mono, run by Miguel de Icaza.

>>30022295
Oh, my bad. You want an interpreter, not a compiler. Probably not then.

>>30022294
Huh... except yes. Changed from last time I looked.
Oh well. Just use VCS Express.

>>30022276
That's what I was saying.
>>30022295
I'm aware of mono, but it has its own pitfalls. I'm sure it's great for people who already program in C#, but having parts half-implemented and buggy garbage collection aren't appealing.

>>30022327
Visual Studio has way better debugger integration than any of the Linux IDEs for C++ with a GDB frontend. That includes Netbeans, Eclipse, Code Blocks, etc. The only downside is that it chews up a lot of memory. Got 4GB+. Use Visual Studio. Otherwise, get yourself a real developer machine.

>>30022367
Err... VCS Express = Visual C# Express. Essentially the C# component of Visual Studio.
I'm not a comp sci major, so I'll never need anything other than VCS Express/Eclipse/VCPP Express, and similar.

>>30022428
Yes, I know that. I'm just saying, compared to other IDEs, Visual Studio (full version of VC++,VC#,V*,etc.) wins hands down for development unless you're the vim and command-line GDB type of guy who has memorized every single command and has it set up perfectly.

>>30022428
I got a free license of Visual Studio from my university. Maybe I'll try it out.

On another note, I like scala as an alternative to Java and C#. Everything I've read about it is brilliant, but I don't know how well it performs in the real world.