When Code Geass ended

when other people started watching it

>>26914226
Shounen is not a genre.

Anime was never good.

Code Geass R2

>The climate of anime and manga in the 70s, 80s and even continuing on into the early 90s was filled with stories of testosterone fueled violence induced quests of nihilistic rage and revenge. It's only natural that the anime of the late 90s and the 00's turned more and more into the moe crap we see today.

Since the beginning.
People only notice it when their power level is high enough.

more like 0AD~now MOE MOE ERA

>>26914274

This for the most part. There are some exceptions.

well, 2010 is coming just around the corner,
lets see what the new era brings.

>>26914322
>I can't satiate my puerile desires anymore. MOAR BLOOD AND MINDLESS VIOLENCE UNDER THE PRETENSE OF NIHILISM YESSSSSS

Early 2000's still had some great fucking shows.
Current is MOE MOE MOE FANSERVICE bullshit.

>>26914265
And here we gooo

since Kyoani was founded

2000=Naruto

while it seems that aniem reached a high point economically in 07, both 08 and 09 have had a lot less shows, a lot less good shows and generally sucked.

Anime was never good.

Not to forget the loli-shit!

1960

>>26914415
faggot doesn't know about my fumoffu and TSR.
KyoAni only started suckign hard from lucky star, though their moe pandering can be traced back to haruhi.

Moë fanservice.

>>26914226
>2006~ moe era

Wrong! Didn't you see the new animes?
Beatch
Fagruto
One Shit?

Shounenshit era

>>26914429

QFT if you've actually seen more than a couple of anime made prior to 95 you would know, it still was a good anime every 5 years with a ot of mediocre filling in between.

>>26914454
and? it's the same with videogames and EA, they had good stuff in the 90's but turned into a cancer that has eventually killed the industry, just like kyoani

anime was never good

>>26914494
every era has shows for everyone, the question is what makes the great mass of shows

1986~1994 tentacle rape era
1995~2000 shounen era
2001~2005 fanservice era
2006~ moe era

>>26914494
Um, each of the big 3 has been around for 9-10 years.

Fall 2009.

>>26914535
What do you mean "and"? He sadi aniem started sucking when KyoANi was founded, and was implying by that that KyoAni made shitty moe shows from its very beginning, I simply noted that it only got shitty from 07.

I know of two anime/manga from 2003 (Diebuster/Ouran) that reference moe. I'm sure there are earlier examples. Fanservice and shonen are alive and well. New shows feature more moe because that's what their audience actually wants. New shows are also on average better than old shows, but no one remembers the wealth of extremely shitty old shows, just the classic gems. Enjoy your gaijin-tastes-centric nostalgia goggles.

>>26914589
lol, wut?
Maybe the manga, but i remember when both bleach started airing, and naruto, wasn't watching anime when one piece did, so maybe that has 10+ years.
Bleach is end of 04 or beginnign of 05, naruto was back in 02 I think.

>2006~ moe era

that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-odnY4tEKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-odnY4tEKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-odnY4tEKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-odnY4tEKo

>>26914535

Killed the indistry?

Where have you been?

Good videogame releases are much more often then good anime releases, and the mediocre ones are better quality.

Also, Braid and World of Goo say Hi. Indie games are alive and well.

Rules of Anime
#1.most anime fans have no idea what the fuck they are talking about...

ITT: perfect examples of rule #1

>1995~2000 shounen era

Shonen actually started dwindling in sales around the mid 90's.

The majority of it always sucked.

>>26914669
again
>>26914560

you can't claim 06-07 was a huge period for moe shows, with dozens of low budget moe shows released every season, and loyally bought by the Japanese Otaku.

>>26914606

Kyoani's second show was Nurse Witch Komugi-chan Magikarte which is a shitty moe animay. You fail at animu 101.

It started sucking once your balls dropped and you developed a level of maturity in which you decided that you were too old for the Japtoons.

>>26914226
>1995~2000 shounen era
>2001~2005 fanservice era
>2006~ moe era

That's all wrong, starting with the fact that there's always been shounen.

MOE AND LOLIS

FUCK YOU JAPAN!

>>26914669
>Ouran
>03
am I missing something?

ITT: Fags who don't understand that anime is firstly a business and that the only thing that matters in anime is what sells the most.

Since I found /a/.

>>26914735
lol wut?
lrn2anime
KyoAni was a new studio back then and produced nothing, it's like saying KyoAni, rather than Gonzo, were the studio for kiddy grade.
Taking a minor part in the anime =! producing.

>>26914782
ITT: you don't get it that anime from earlier had an artistic touch to you whereas nowadays it is all the same shit, mass products.

>>26914782
>>26914839
These.

Moving on...

>>26914839

No, not really. The only thing earlier anime has is your rose tinted glasses.

>>26914749
>MOE AND LOLIS

>FUCK YEAH JAPAN!
fix'd

>>26914752
Manga.

I was born in 1989, and my interest in anime is only over two years old now, so I guess I'm only applicable to moe era. That being said, I spend most of my time trying both to watch already finished stuff on /a/'s recommendation chart thing, and trying to keep updated with the decent stuff currently airing. PLUS trying to keep updated in seinen manga and try and read some visual novels like F/SN.

If anyone says it isn't a full-time occupation following this lifestyle, your wrong, I have no time outside anime/manga/VN's, and I love it.

>no one remembers the wealth of extremely shitty old shows, just the classic gems.
This. Ten years from now, people will be wondering why all their anime is crap, unlike the glorious years at the end of the 2000's.

It's funny considering 2006 and 2007 are far and away the best years of this decade for anime. Probably ever actually, but I won't go that far yet.

>>26914895
No, really. You have no clue.

>>26914992
economically yes, and there were plenty of fuck awesome shows.
But that was only made possible due to the FUCKING RIDICULOUS amount of shitty low budget moe shows.

1917 ~ 1925 art era
1925 ~ 1940 Disney era
1940 ~ 1950 propaganda era
1950 ~ 1965 color era
1965 ~ 1979 astro boy era / huge eyes, radish head era
1979 ~ 1995 space age
1995 ~ 2000 three mediocre shounen era
2001 ~ 2005 QUALITY era
2006 ~ slice of shit moe era

Here you go, I upgraded it for you.

When it started catering to pedophiles more heavily than ever before.

I don't think people get the point of this thread.

OP made it so that whichever era you choose, Moe is always in the sucky era.

10/10 OP would smile again.

>>26915065
It's like a blind man talking about the colors of a rainbow.

>>26914839 an artistic touch

If by artistic touch you mean it copied disney and warner bros. then yeah it has a lot of artistic touch.

This is the biggest misconception of all anime that somehow it was once good and now it's shit because they're only producing moe. Dear fucking god you 12 year old little shits. The problem is you all were introduced to anime 4 years ago when mommy and daddy finally upgraded their dial up internet and you watched 15 years of the most violent anime in one year.

NEWS FUCKING FLASH anime was never about violence and psychological thrillers. 95% of anime has always been cutesy childish shit from the 70s Candy Candy to 80s Magical Angel Creamy Mami to 90s Mysterious Magic Fan Fan Pharmacy just because you didn't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist!

Moe is not ruining anime you fucking retards. There is more anime being produced now than ever before with the same percentage of hardcore action and whatever shit you guys like as before.

The shows you think are the best shit ever were late night niche market shows. Cowboy Bebop was watched by maybe 5000 people when it aired in Japan but oh god we must have more it's the best show ever! Stop thinking that just because you watched a bunch of shows that were awesome they all came out at the same time in Japan, the above mentioned Bebop came out in 1998 while GiTS: SAC came out FOUR FUCKING YEARS LATER.

Epic shows don't come out every fucking month for you to piss yourselves over so cry somewhere else.

>>26915172

In between current day and copying Disney there was a slight renaissance in animation. It was short lived, but it was there.

>>26915176
>implying that the manga/anime market hasn't always been Shounen(inb4 it's not a genre)

There's a reason why the first manga ever Astro Boy was a Shounen.

>>26915176

Eh.

There's still less and the catering to Pedos is becoming more blatant.

>>26915172
Five examples.

>>26915221
You're thinking about a cetain title or two, most of the animus before the late seventies looked like this shit.

>>26915176
Nigg, u mad.

>>26915172

I think he may have been talking about the 80's-90's OVA era, which owed absolutely nothing to those two studios.

Again, I'm just guessing that he meant that period.

>>26914560

Well, I know, but this animes are very bad, and as you can see, the problem is not the bad animes, and yes the peoples who watch them.

Peoples who watch these anime are so arrogant and childish, talking a lot of shits.
I know, it's not all peoples like this, but the most part are!

Just see the posts on /a/, you'll see a lot of peoples defending theses animes, and you'll see too the same peoples acting like faggot... well, it's sad. =/

>>26914839
Let's get one thing straight here. Anime is not some mystical art form that is beyond comprehension. It is and will always be a form of entertainment, and the entire point of entertainment is to appease the audience. Not to make you have some deep meaningful conversation in your daily life. It's like trying to compare WWE to a Shakespearean play.

>>26915176

The emphasis on action actually IS dying out a bit.

Not as much as most think, but still.

>>26914697
>braid
>good

>>26915176

/thread and saved as pasta for any other morons suggesting this.
He is most likely trolling anyway.

>>26915361 80's-90's OVA era

Recent year's movies and ovas look far better, you have to be some mad weeaboo to think otherwise.

>>26915376

>Forms of entertainment can't be meaningful or thought provoking.

Cool, I guess Ms. Baker is mad at Mr. Carraway because he crashed into her car after Mr. Gatsby passed on from drinking too much tomato soup before jumping in the pool.

>>26915376
It is acceptable in society that while movies are a form of entertainment, they can be also viewed as works of art.
Why do you think anime is any different?

The Shakespeare analogue is especially amusing, because while Shakespeare definitely had some amazing plays, he was generally the entertainment of those times, and just like movies, you can view his work as art.

>>26915460

>Recent year's movies and ovas look far better

How so?

Not saying you're wrong, but could you explicate?

>>26915376
>implying Shakespear is good and meaningful

go to hell

Why can you people learn to enjoy whatever corporations and jews throw at us and take it easy~.

60-70 = American cartoons copy pasta era
71-80 = super robot copy pasta era
81-90 = Gundam copy pasta era
91-00 = DBZ and medieval crap copy pasta era
01-09 = moe copy pasta era

>>26915376

>Shakespeare

His plays were "U die" "NO U" "LET'S FIGHT" with some fancy words thrown in.

>>26915376
>implying that Shakespeare's works weren't violent innuendo-filled plays to appease the common masses

oh wow I can already see the Shakespearemind posts
oh well posting anyway

>>26915176 NEWS FUCKING FLASH anime was never about violence and psychological thrillers.

QFT. the anime japs make is afected a lot by the cinema tendencies in the US. That's the reason you don't see gory anime anymore, the US stoped making bloody action erotica flicks and sci fi b movies.