It could be a poorly made big sword

just saying

The big sword is just cardboard.

Glorious nippon men > filthy european women

>>25967323
This.
Poorly made huge sword vs. Small, sharp, dense katana.

Disappointing first ep.

>>25967323
>implying a well crafted katana with a sharp edge can cuta huge sword like cake

Oh you japan

>>25967323
but katana is poorly made sword
i duno lol

Why is OP complaining?

I'm still laughing at her chest plate.

>>25967387
?

BULLETS STOPS A ROCKET

SOON IN JAPAN

ITT We complain about anime doing something unrealistic.

>>25967360
0/10

Total Bleach rip-off!

It looks like the xbox huge sword is square the the katana is hitting the side. Of course it's going to break.

A katana is a sword.
And it's not because a sword is big that it is good.

OP is one of those idiots that pretend to not be weeaboo.

>>25967323
>>25967360
Even if it's poorly made it's still hard to cut through thick metal with another metal, using nothing but you're own strength and no mechanical devices.

>implying nonsense things only happen in Japanese media
No.

>>25967419
Did you saw the swords being made? How in the hell do you know which one is better?

>>25967402
It makes me rage.

>>25967429
katana is the worst wildly used sword considering time period ....

Perhaps it was made of lead?

>>25967439
>using nothing but you're own strength and no mechanical devices.
>you're own strength

You're stupid.

I said this in the last thread, but it's a magic katana. ITT assumptions when you can't understand the raws.

katana>>>>>>>>>>>>>>western shit sword

Katana can cut through anything in anime, Goemon agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>25967443
Japanese Media breaks the laws of physics and/or The Universe a lot more than Western Media. Bollywood still tops Japan though.

>>25967413
Well is more like we're complaining that Katanas are superior to any sword or fire weapon ever in anime, for fuck sake katanas are so shitty IRL so that weakling samurais could handle them with their thin arms.

>>25967443
No one implied they only happen in Japan.

>>25967460
>katana is the worst wildly used sword considering time period ....
What?
It's not a "mystical weapon that can cut a tank in half". But katana were quite decent swords. Much more so if they were done by one of those great blacksmiths.

A katana can cut through a tank. A common sword is nothing to it. NOTHING.

Masterwork Bastardsword The Animation

significant parts only copypasta

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

>>25967488
Not really.
If you are gonna be anal about this, pretty much any Hollywood movie with action rapes physics.

>>25967412
a bullet does stop a rocket if it activates the primary explosive charge , just to say so .

>>25967454

Broadswors are better made and more effective than a katana.

Europe>Japan

sacred blacksmith?
subs fucking where?

>>25967551
Who said so?
You eurofags are stupid.

>>25967537
aren't the reason why anti-rocket weapons are bullet based spam like hell in the direction of the rocket, CIWS was it called?

>>25967529
holy shit, this copypasta is badass

>>25967488
Japanese media doesn't break the laws of physics (not that doing so even matters in a FICTIONAL work) any more than anywhere else. Chances are, your knowledge of Japanese media is just anime and manga, maybe some VNs, and possibly J-drama. Do you honestly think that's an accurate representation of Japanese media? That's like watching saying all western media must break the laws of physics since stuff like Batman and Spiderman do it all the time.

>>25967535
Not nearly as bad as Anime though. Live action is confined to being live action, even with a really good effects budget there's still some semblance of reality. Animation can do whatever the fuck it wants.

>>25967492
>No one implied they only happen in Japan
>OP actually says "ONLY IN JAPAN"

>>25967502
They were great in the sense that they were expertly crafted out of very scarce amounts of iron. But compared to european swords, which were made out of actual iron ore, they were shit. They broke against leather armor on a frequent basis. The only reason why the Japanese treated them as holy relics is because they were so hard to come by.

>>25967584
>spam like hell
im talking if japan will make shit about one little bullet colliding with a rocket head on then stopping the rocket

>>25967597
>Japanese media doesn't break the laws of physics (not that doing so even matters in a FICTIONAL work) any more than anywhere else.
Except it does.

>>25967616

Unless that cartoon katana is some magic weapon it can't cut through a thick slab of metal such as the other sword.

Katanas are fine and agile weapons, of course, but there are limits to what the steel will be able to endure.

:(

>>25967672
My retort is every single Super Robot Anime ever made.

>>25967639
Exactly. They're interesting in the way that a high rise building constructed from logs would be interesting.

>anime
>physics
>dohoho~

>>25967685
It IS a magic weapon. The katana is fucking magic. Stop being morons.

>>25967699

>Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too.

It's magic.

It doesn't have to explain shit.

That scene was awesome, why are you faggots complaining?

>>25967735
Once again I retort with every single Super Robot Anime. The Core and The Day After Tomorrow were stupid and took the laws of physics and proceeded to rape them up the ass, but they still don't compare to Super Robot Anime. The Day After Tomorrow still managed to get the golden rule of, people die when they're killed, down so it at least gets credit for that.

Alright, a little bit of history guys:

Yes, katanas are without a doubt, far sharper weapons and much better at the whole "cutting" thing that most western weapons. Know why?

Because the western world invented this thing called "heavy metal armor". Once strong chaimmail and, even moreso, platemail were common, sharp edged weapons became hugely impractical for obvious reasons and blunt weaponry became far more mainstream. Whatever swords were still made for actual combat instead of decorations, resorted to an axe-like approach: Strong, resistant and heavy body that depended on a strong sworng to cause a half-cutting/half-blunt wound.

So of course a katana cuts better, their swordsmiths never had to overcome the hurdle of "armor you just can't cut",a nd thus just kept working on the edge.

Male tsundere, liking this already.

metal breasts vs katanas ?

>>25967311
Every time you interject real physics into an anime/manga/movie/comic/game discussion, God accelerates a kitten to terminal velocity and splatters it on walls of Hell.

katana>>>>muslim sword>>>>western sword

>>25967838
>sworng

Looks surprisingly like an euphemisms for "dong". I guess it's fitting given teh topic. I emnat "swing".

>>25967838
Actually there were many types of armor that could be pierced by common swords. You think everyone got to wear a full suit of armor.

But thats irrelevant since the pike and spear was the most effective weapon against armor.

Queen's Blade S2 has started already? Fuck.

>>25967833
You don't know super robot anime.

>>25967833
You can't compare The Core and The Day After Tomorrow to something like Gurren Lagann.

>>25967454
myth busters

>>25967853
>Male tsundere
DOWNLOADAN

oops

>>25967838
Mace in the face. Game over.
Fuck your cutting weapons

>>25967833
They can compare. They rape physics as much as each other.

Haha that outfit is gay as fuck.

oh shit WEEABOO FEST

tsuntsun~

>>25967902
>>25967890
I'm not saying that raping physics is wrong or that it makes a show bad but the Mecha genre as a whole is the largest offender to to breaking physics. The Core and the Day After Tommorrow are small time in comparison and both very shitty movies. Why? Because they're live action, they're limited to that, live action can only rape the laws of The Universe so much, animation is animation, they could draw a walrus shitting super novas and make it look good, you can't do that with live action the budget doesn't allow it.

>>25967932
fuck ya I'm all about maces and axes

fuck swords

>Only in Japan: The less armor you wear, the better protected you are.

FACT

GODDAMN HER TITS LOOK STRANGE AS FUCK

katana vs .50 machine gun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHTJAKN-5k

Katana were endured up to six.

>>25967902
I wonder which one is the worst.
TTGL had parts were physics was raped in the ass by two black men. And a horse.

build from shitty metal long, thin and curved with only one edge ofter used as two handed weapon, honestly i gave some time to think off worse wildly used from steal made sword but hell there is none

you can only slash, one edge is capital gay, you cant fucking stab

>>25968020
>screw armor, i can cut everything even TANKS as long i have my sword

>>25968020
Actually... Since the advent of firearms...

>>25967902
I agree. The those shitty movies pretend to talking about actual physics. TTGL has fucking 'spiral' power. It embraces unreality. "The Core" and "Day After Tomorrow" pretend to be based on actual physical concepts.

>>25967902
Gurren Lagann is a terrible example for super robot anime. Sure it stole some elements from there, but it also took a lot from elsewhere.

>>25967884
Pretty much any piercing weapon was more effective against armor. Polearms, arrows, estocs, etc. Heavy weapons like maces and hammers worked well too since the raw force caused damage through the armor.

As an aside, does her armor remind anybody else of Ragnarok Online? Silly hair accessory and all.

>complaining about lack of realism in anime

Yeah.

As someone who is actually interested in and studies swords of all kinds, I can definitively say that neither Japanese nor European swords are "better" than the other. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. But in animu-land (and entertainment media in general) the makers can do whatever the hell they want, it doesn't matter. Just take solace in the fact that katana are not arbitrarily "superior" to other kinds of swords in real life and stop complaining about unrealistic shit in anime.

>>25968033
read the fucking comments

This should answer some questions:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2810/could-historic-japanese-samurai-swords-cut-a-human-bod
y-in-two-with-one-stroke

Katanas are pretty tough slicers, but historically, combatants weren't able to utilize their power in the battlefield. However, this is anime, so it's not hard to assume that the character is a bit beyond the average feudal warrior.

Also, a sword that large is probably not as finely constructed and full of impurities.

And then there is the fact that no one criticizes Rurouni Kenshin for shit like this. I remember Ken did something like this in episode 2.

>>25968104
>Pretty much any piercing weapon was more effective against armor. Polearms, arrows, estocs, etc. Heavy weapons like maces and hammers worked well too since the raw force caused damage through the armor.


exactly, swords are somewhat shitty weapon, katana is example of how swords should not be made, japanese were like damn animals till usa did not set them straight with nuclear bitch slap or else they still would be third world
(and i am not from usa )

Guts cuts heavy axes with a longsword.

>>25967616
You've never seen a Quentin Tarantino movie, have you?

Oh wait, that's anime too.

>>25968182
You look like someone from a third world country.

don't worry guys she will receive an upgrade to her armor

This show is awesome.

>>25968303
>even less armor
is she a knight or a stripper?

>>25968292
someone insulted you beloved katana?

how can this be? how someone could do this to superior nation to our own? everyone knows japan is the bright light in this dark and barbaric world, they are beautiful, smart, educated people not like you and you shitty warmonger country

>>25968211
Guts also slays gods

>>25968182
Japan didn't have the kind of heavy armor Europeans used. Cutting weapons were sufficient against each other and probably excelled against the Mongols and so forth.

It's kind of a moot point, though, since samurai relied on the bow more.

>>25968372
and spears

>>25968303
final upgrade on her armor is queen blade tier armor

amirite?

>>25967311
source?

>>25968354
Dude, you are retarded.
I never said anything about Japan being
>the bright light in this dark and barbaric world, they are beautiful, smart, educated people not like you and you shitty warmonger country

Japan is just another country. It has its good points and it has its bad points. Just like any other country in the world.

It's not like you either love Japan or you hate it with all your might.

>>25968358
Guts fights against darkness

/thread

>>25968175

Rurouni Kenshin had shit way more ridiculous than that.

But I don't think anyone here is actually complaining about it, you'd have to be some kind of braindead moron to bitch about a lack of realism in sword animu. The rule of cool is all that matters.

>>25968182
If you want a sword that can cut people with low-grade or just no armor, the katana is awesome.

Still, naginatas/yaris and bows were, as usual far more effective at close and long ranged combat respectively, swordfighting was what happened when they ran out of more strategically-sound moves.

>>25968452
>>25968175
Ruroni Kenshin is a shonen. It's allowed.

>>25968372
Pretty much.
Samurai were cavalry archers first, spearmen second and after that arsonists.
And when they got in contact with muskets, they loved it and tried to use it as much as they could.

>>25968372
The mongols were never that big a deal to Japan due to the whole "losing like 99% of our army during storms" every time they tried to invade.

on an episode of mythbusters they proven a sword can't cut another sword :p

>>25968455
Or when they had nothing else to do and decided to duel.

>>25968452
remember the fight he had with a knight?

he won because of lolphysics

>>25968528
Mythbusters can't prove shit. A lot of "myths" that they "busted" were real.
(like that of a car that was turned by the airplane turbine)

>>25968489
What makes this a seinen then?

Oh wait.

>Demographic Seinen
>Magazine Monthly Comic Alive

Damn, anything can get into a seinen magazine these days. Then again, I'm pre-judging. Maybe the manga adaptation actually deserves that. But this really looks like K-ON with swords

>>25967574

It's double edged, it can cut through leather armour, and it's actually able to stab.

Enough for you, weaboo?

>katana cuts xbox huge sword
>dreamcast cuts xbox
Sounds about right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj1Jytiw8e0

modern samurai !!

>>25968534
That too, yeah.

>>25968505
They were kind of a big deal. In the first invasion they scared the Japanese guys a lot and won some battles (Japanese tactics at that time were stupid). In the second one, the Japanese were better prepared and would most likely give the mongols a run for their money (at least that's what happened in the few battles they had)

>>25968593
>and it's actually able to stab.
Sure and a japanese sword isn´t?

>>25968601
This guy is quite good

>>25968348

>>25967777

>>25968372
>melee weapon
>excelled against the Mongols

wut.. ?

>>25968601
Now THAT's a modern day warrior with a mean, mean stride.

OH! SUP! JUST BEING THE MOST BADASS SWORDS EVER DEVISED!

>>25968623
If mongol had invaded japan again, japan would have lost. The mongol has one hell of adaptability.

>>25967311
even if the sword cuts through theres the problem of about 100kg of sharp metal still heading your way

>>25968824
Not every Mongolian was a cavalry archer.

>>25968883
Eventually Japan would have lost, since everyone else was also getting their asses kicked by the mongols. But in the battles they had in the second invasion, Japan did better than most people think.

>>25967380
pretty much, see europeans put all their ingenuity into making new weapons, not just refining the existing ones. so stuff like the longbow once invented pretty much fucked swords. battles became about the numbers, so well crafted single swords just weren't required anymore. same goes with soldiers, and that is why nobody employs samurai anymore.

>>25968601
ZA BURRET BABY

HE CUT THE FUCKING BULLET

>>25968963
>so stuff like the longbow once invented pretty much fucked swords
????

>>25969025
Meaning: If you can take a soldier down from range, you no longer have to craft the best melee weapons.

>>25969025
from a distance obviously

>>25969025
Longbows were practically machine guns for the time they were in. They could accurately shoot at extreme distances. In a castle, it made French troops sitting ducks until they could break in.

>>25969025
/a/ is fucking dense today lol this is basic sheild and sword paradox type shit

FIRTHY GAIJIN SWORD CANNOT COMPARE WITH GROLIOUS NIPPON KATANA

>>25968601
>BB

How the fucking hell...?

>>25969092
>>25969108
What fucked up swords was the same thing that fucked up longbows and cavalry.
Muskets and similar stuff.

Superior to the filthy katana.

Sacred Blacksmith upgraded from yellow to green.

>>25968601
This guy coule be the best baseball batter ever.

This is why the weekends are shit.


Kids fall for one of the shittiest and ancient type of trolls known to chans and weeaboos alike. Katanas cut through fucking tanks, guys!

>>25969162
If you've watched Fight Science and some of the other shows like that, they've shown that a highly trained martial artist can react to a blinking light and punch a target; in less time than it takes an untrained person to even register that the light changed.

Reaction time improves; from recognition of stimuli, to the actual fast twitch muscle fibers. Cool stuff, but ultimately useless unless you're hanging out in rough neighborhoods and asking for trouble.

>>25969297

Actually, this thread's been pretty good. I don't think anyone "fell" for anything, although discussion is kinda wandering all over the place.

>>25969287
yeah, lets see he could be a fucking awesome samurai, or he could change jobs and play a filthy american sport, the same people that ended the ways of samurai.

Some articles relating to the durability of katana in real life.

http://www.nihontocraft.com/Suishinshi_Masahide.html

http://www.nihontocraft.com/Aratameshi_Nihonto.html

>>25969431
Baseball requires the true heart of a bushi. No cheating, loyalty to your coach, quick reflexes, a real sense of honor and loyalty. True baseballers = true bushido

>>25969431
?????????
Japanese were the ones that ended feudalism in Japan. And feudalism was not something nice, unless you were a samurai.

>>25967308
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anertalk.com/ (aner = anon) last night.
This site rocks.

>>25969372
Out of curiosity, doesn't that lead to accidentally handling undeserved asskickings when you overreact at the barest movement?

>>25969484
>No cheating
lolwat?

>>25969549
/r/ gif of the black kid knocking out someone who surprises him

>>25969445
Yup. Swords were delicate things.
You had to know how to use it. That's one of the reasons why they liked to use other weapons when in battle

>>25969484
someone say koume?

>>25969490
The policy of isolation lasted for more than 200 years. In 1844, William II of the Netherlands sent a message urging Japan to open her doors, which resulted in Tokugawa shogunate's rejection.[16] On July 8, 1853, Commodore Matthew Perry of the U.S. Navy with four warships — the Mississippi, Plymouth, Saratoga, and Susquehanna — steamed into the bay at Edo, old Tokyo, and displayed the threatening power of his ships' cannons during a Christian burial, which the Japanese observed. He requested that Japan open to trade with the West. These ships became known as the kurofune, the Black Ships.

Basically the Americans weapons killed samurai. Yeah the Japs did it themselves, but it was inevitable in the face of such firepower.

>>25969608

On the flip side, there's evidence that Viking swords, which were generally made using a pattern-welding process like with Japanese swords, were also prone to breaking in battle.

http://www.hurstwic.org/history/articles/manufacturing/text/viking_sword.htm

All this shows us is that ALL swords, no matter where they were made, were very prone to breaking when used under harsh conditions. You're also right about samurai preferring other weapons in actual battles, such as spears and bows. Swords were really more of a sidearm during the Sengoku period.

>>25969549
Not at all. If you're trained in martial arts, you get a feel for body motion, body language, balance etc. There's a big difference in how someone moves aggressively to hit you and when someone playfully punches your arm or bear hugs you.

When they did that specific test, it wasn't just "punch as soon as a light changes." They had several possible targets and whichever one lit up was struck, so they weren't talking about swinging wildly.

>bushido involved pederasty

>>25969725
It was a revolution.
They still had to take down the shogunate. They would probably do it sooner or later, since the most powerful families at the time had no love for the Tokugawa. And some of the influential people in those families liked western stuff.

>>25969727
Yeah.

>>25969800
This bushido thing is more marketing than anything else. But yeah, samurai liked to fuck young boys.

Well a well-made katana can cut a .50 bullet fired directly at it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sHTJAKN-5k

>>25969859
>samurai liked to fuck young boys
Were they Catholic?

>>25969960
Yes, but half a 50 caliber bullet hitting you will still kill you. So what's your point?

>>25969984
Only a few of them.
Btw, the official doctrine of Catholicism is against fucking little boys. It's just that the "you can't marry" rule attracts some gay men that don't want other people to find their secrets.
And they end up fucking what they can.

>>25969987
Ya, while I'm no ballistics expert, you might be worse off because of the fragments still having most of their velocity, yawning, loosing their full metal jacket which would just make more expansion in your body.

Your best bet would to dodge rather then deflect anyways. How many times has this happened in real life?

>166 posts and 22 image replies omitted.

>>25970119
0
I'm pretty sure no one has ever tried to do that IRL

Katanas = perfect swords

>>25970119

Well, it's a bullet, you're not gonna be dodging it either. Whether katana can cut bullets is not the intrinsic problem with the idea of deflecting bullets with a sword.

Why do you think Guts don't use shitty katana?

>>25970368
>Katana vs. Zodd .LOL

>>25970368
Because the anime is set in a medieval Europe setting. I wouldn't try to get "truths" from fiction, if I were you.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

This thread has been going on for too long

>>25970456
>Skullknight holding a katana .FAIL

>>25970456

Nobody should be using a sword like Guts' anyway. Big, slow, and won't kill people any deader than a knife in the appropriate spot.

Still, for demon-hunting the Dragonslayer has its advantages...

>I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
WHAT
>Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan?
Because it was in the opposite side of the world... or maybe because they didn't even know Japan existed at the time.

>>25970663
Enjoy your summer here at 4chan?

>>25970663
Someone always falls for the classic troll pasta.

People are still seriously responding to this.
Disgraceful.

>>25970663
YHBT

>>25970697
It's winter here.

>>25968686

Nope, it can't stab through anything denser than felt.

ITT: sword experts

>>25970536

Wait, what?

>>25970480

gb2/tg/

>>25970892
It can't? Didn't knew there were sword experts here.

>>25970480

Go away /tg/, your troll-fu is unknown to these folk.

>>25970480
>to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

DOHOHO bitches don't know about my SOLINGER MESSER. FUCK YOU JAPAN.

>>25970892
What? One of the videos posted here had someone stabbing straight through a metal chair with a Katana.

>>25970941

That's one of it's weaknesses. It's a sword practically made for slasing. Both are completely useless compared to a gun, however.

>>25971009
But there were sword styles that were all about piercing.

Is this a show about actual blacksmithing, or someone who can craft AND goes on a crazyass adventure?

>>25971002

What?! Provide me with a link. Anyway, the katana used in that video was probably made with certain alloys created through science. I'm talking about a katana in it's appropriate time period.

ITT: people who knows nothing about swordfight.

I'm a weeaboo like you all, but I'm also training classical medieval swordmanship.

Katana can't be used for efficient blocking incoming hits cause it will break apart. (while bastard sword can)

Japanese 'model' of swordfighting is construced over fast and lethal blows that allow you to kill your opponent with few moves.


>>25970480

>produce the finest blades known to mankind.

no. Pic related why - superior quality alloy

>Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords

true. Funny fact - 2 handed swords used to be... BLUNT

Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better

True. But just try to stab with katana.

> I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

false. Katana can't cut through XIV century tourney shield. It will get stuck inside shield.

>Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction.

troll detected. If not (please be just a troll) look on the map.

>>25971050

Well the male protagonist was crafting a blade in a magical bubble with the help of his elf loli at the end of the episode.

>>25971047

If you look at a samurai's armour, it's essentially about as effective as a ceremonial dress, it's made of wood, for fucks sake.

>>25971097
It is a troll. It's copypasta.

>>25971076
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K31n2tj7Qi8&feature=related

>>25971097

A Claymore is more of a mace than a sword, funnily enough. Its blunt force was enough to kill a knight.

>>25971097
Alright, master weapons guy. Can a Bastard Sword be as sharp as a Katana through hard work? Or is it impossible to have a bigass claymore (medieval design, not CLOUD VS SEPHIROTH huge) that is just as sharp as a katana?

Guts sword >>>>>> normal sword > katana

>>25971076
Tennen Rishin style, for starters

>>25971171

Samurai too fast, you'll be death before you know it

>>25971120
The armour was made to stop arrows

>>25971192
Why would you do that?

Kenshin used katanas, therefore it's stronger than anything.

So this series will be the new trollbait?

Can I suspend disbelief and enjoy this?

>>25971281
>Why would you do that?
Just to prove a point, I guess...

>Samurai too fast, you'll be death before you know it
huhwha

>>25967311
what show is this?

>>25971269

European to sword breaks on armour, you'd be crushed like an insect after your precious katana breaks on plate.

>>25971097
Why would you block a sword with another one? This is bad for the blade.

>>25971097
> Katana can't be used for efficient blocking incoming hits cause it will break apart

False. There are more than enough examples of hard blocking with the edge of the blade in japanese sword arts.

> Japanese 'model' of swordfighting is construced over fast and lethal blows that allow you to kill your opponent with few moves.

That's also the model of European martial arts, and anything else that is even half decent.

>True. But just try to stab with katana.

Most koryu do an awful lot of thrusting with the katana, and do a lot of stuff similar to the half-swording you see in the reconstructions of European sword arts that are around now.


That said, responding to shit like this on /a/ is retarded. At least on /k/ there are a few people with ARMA and some people who seem to have a decent knowledge of Japanese and Filipino martial arts there.

>>25970907
... Skullknight is holding a sword in the picture you posted. Not a katana. You utter failure.

>>25971358

You can buy a new sword, its kinda hard to buy a new head though.

>>25971171
What on earth are you talking about?

sexy jin reporting in, what's going on guys?

>False. There are more than enough examples of hard blocking with the edge of the blade in japanese sword arts.
In mixed sword arts? Broadsword vs. Katana?

>That's also the model of European martial arts, and anything else that is even half decent.
Not unless you're fencing sabre or epee it's not. Mostly it was dealing crushing blows in order to damage the person underneath the massive, difficult to animate, armor.

>>25971445
He means it kills due to its mass, brute force, impact. You don't slice someone up with a claymore, you smash them to pulp.

Swords are meant to cut. A Claymore is not a mace. It CAN be sharp, cause mine is rather sharp and efficient. Though I have no skill with a sword past swinging blindly, I know it can cut through shit with my weak strength.

I can't believe we have 200+ posts thread about katanas cutting xbox huge swords.

>>25971192

nope due to shitty <history wise> alloy. Most of 'typical' European swords had shitty quality. There was even story about one english king <forgot which one> who almost got himself fucked up because his sword broke up when he tried to scatter peasant warband.

If you look for quality stuff then look at early Byzantium weapons.

This shits old hat, bub.

>>25971483
It still does a better job at slicing someone up than smashing them with brute force.

Simply put, katanas were usually of poor quality because the Japanese lacked decent quality metal to make them with, and thus they had to folded a few hundred times to even be of much use. That's not saying EVERY SINGLE KATANA is inferior to Western swords, but I'd say roughly 90% of them were. (I don't know if anyone in Japan still blacksmiths katanas old school style, but obviously if they did that percent will have decreased by now)

Second of all, lol magic sword in anime

Third of all don't delude yourselves about badass samurai. They were pretty cool when they had to put down poorly armored peasents, but they got whipped pretty bad when they went up against anything post Black Ships.

also this thread reeks of "maybe if i defend japan they will make me a honorary asian, sugoi"

>>25971516
Shakespeare: Macbeth said "A sword, a sword, my kingdom for a sword."

What show is this?

>>25971499

It worked like one. Against a knight in armour, the blunt force kills, not cutting blows. In their repective armour, a knight with a longsword and sheild will kill a samurai with a katana, but a necron with a warscythe will kill them both.

A katana can cut a bullet in half motherfuckers, fuck your broadswords!

>>25971537
Screw you Logan, my powers are magical.

The Japanese fought in a similar way to the Mongols. But with less raping.

A katana can cut through even the most modern tank armor plating, that's why katanas are still outlawed by the swords and firearms control law to this day--they're too dangerous to be out on the streets.

>>25971473
>In mixed sword arts? Broadsword vs. Katana?

Not sure what you're getting at there.Nobody fights with swords anymore.

The fact is that the old Japanese schools that are still around and have a direct, well documented lineage show blocking with the edge of the blade is more than enough evidence to show that it happens.

>Not unless you're fencing sabre or epee it's not.

Fencing is even further removed from its roots than things like kendo are, unfortunately. And last time I checked, the idea was to kill/disable the other guy as quickly as possible; regardless of if you're trying to smash the other guy's armor or not. You don't want to dink around, because the longer you spend dealing with one guy, the more likely it is that someone is going to shank you in the back or something.

/tg/ what are you doing in /a/

>>25971707
>A katana can cut through even the most modern tank armor plating

Some people here are too... extremist.
For them, either Katana was a toy or it was like a Star Wars light saber.
It was just another good sword. Except that it was rarely used

>>25971592

You need to remember that by that period they were mostly administrators.


A lot of guys forget that the samurai class was around a lot longer than european knights.