what in chess is a back rank mate

I actually enjoyed this series until I read the VN and I realized what a shitty adaptation it was.

>>25090623
In chess, a back rank checkmate is a checkmate delivered by a rook or queen along a back rank (that is, the row on which the pieces (not pawns) stand at the start of the game) in which the mated king is unable to move up the board because the king is blocked by friendly pieces (usually pawns) on the second rank.

>>25090623
It's where a king is put into Checkmate while being on the row from which all the pieces start, not the pawns though.

Usually done by a rook or a queen.

This is Seacats for those of you who didn't know, and it felt like they butchered the material.

>>25090623
This.

>>25090642
>>25090662
So, it implies Battler painting himself into a corner as far as Episode II is concerned?

I've never heard a chess term called "accept" before what is it?

>>25090725
Yes, Battler cornered himself because he refused to believe one of the 18 people was the culprit and kept looking for a way to blame a 19th person. As such, he "loses" the second game, but regains his confidence again to play the third one.

>>25090719
in b4 Code Geass Checkmate, etc.

>>25090719
Black is going to win in that picture though.

>>25090955
Black already lost

>>25090972
He moves the pawn forward to block the rook, there is no more check.

>>25090995
you've got the sides the wrong way round

>>25090995
Pawns don't go that way. In a standard checkboard, white is down and black is up. So Black can only move his pawns downwards.

>>25090995
No wait, I assumed that black was the other side for some reason.

>>25090995
You worked in that code geass episode didn't you?

>>25091030
>>25091020
I just remembered this, this is what I get for favouring black and playing chess online.

>Don't mind me, I'm only streamlining the VN material by taking out the good parts.

this picture is fucking obligatory.

If battler-kun could do this, he'll win for sure.

>>25091071
oh wait, he'll lose anyway.

>>25091071

I read the wikipedia page on castling, what in this episode would this represent? I've read the VN but can't figure it out.

/a/ - chess

>>25091162
Putting Battler or Beatrice out of harms way? it COULD be moving Beatrice away and bringing in EVA, but it's unlikely, much too fast.

>>25091030
I'll just flip the chess board.. now black is sure to win.

>>25091162
Castling can be considered as something exceptional that changes the game a little.

>>25091204
YOU INCOMPETENT FOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>25091204
I smiled.

>>25091162
In her battle against Virgilia she did a move that could be regarded as castling.

>>25091204
I lol'd. Nice thinking there anon.

castling

i don't get it
will there be a "case closed" like solution for all the closed door situations and murder in the end or is it just a magic show?

>>25091486
There will be.

>>25090719

Who the hell gets into this type of position in a game?

>>25091486
Don't know, because the character that has been introduced as the detective in Umineko happens to be one of the bad guys.

>>25091515
new players, I've seen it happen fair few times.

>>25091515
It's just the theory.

>>25091545
Aka, Battler.

He's still like this for a little while before he serious' the fuck up.

>>25091515
Amateurs, which is why /a/ had a good laugh at it when they wiki'd it

>>25091515
>Back rank mates occur quite often in games at fairly low levels, as it occurs out of carelessness. This is due to the fact that beginners typically lack the skill to realize that such a fate could occur based on the laws of the game. At higher levels of play, though the mate itself does not occur very often, play is often affected by the possibility of it—the fact that a player has to spend time guarding against the mate may leave him vulnerable to other tactical ideas.

There's no real logic or reason tot his show. What it comes down to is essentially the same shitty willpower battle seen in TTGL "Ill never surrender to you beatrice!" "WELL TAKE THIS THEN"
"NO I HAVE THE POWER TO GO ON" hurrrrr

Haha, this thread reminds me of my primary school chess club. I only went because one of my friends was in it, and we got entered into a tournament. I was a complete beginner.
So to cut a long story short, I had this kid in checkmate for at least 6 turns before either of us noticed.

>>25091618

Battler's allowed to keep going because Beatrice lets him. Remember the whole premise she's working from is that she's bored and wants to make him surrender completely--as long as he's willing to get back up and fight her again, no matter how many times he cries and gives up, he's still in the game.

>>25091535
You mean she happens to be true neutral

>>25091618
No. Just no. It's not like that at all. Battler isn't able to go on because he has high willpower. He continues on because Beatrice is losing on purpose. She could win the game at any time. She could win, kill him, and move on. But she CHOOSES to play the game with him. She chooses to drop hints to him, even though it's not required.

You're clearly not paying enough attention.