Wow, that's pretty elaborate, OP.

tl;dr; People forget true nature of Haruhi seen in S1 and Novels after EE and S2 fiasco..

>>24520248

Except it's the "hardcore" fans that buy dvds, not the casuals since it's like $60 dollars for two episodes. Casuals wouldn't do that in Japan.

If that's the case, I'd like even more moe shows

>>24520248
>>24520248
>>24520248

I'd say it's the other way around. Look at the video game industry, they get most of their revenue from casuals and the niche market is a minor concern.

Really, the 'good anime' mustn't be as good as you think.

cool story, bro.

>>24520306

That's what I'm saying, the rise of moe scared away the "casual" fans who didn't want to be associated with moe garbage being shoved around everywhere.

Admit it, this is the true reason why there is a global recession!

>>The mega-popularity of Haruhi, mostly because of its moe factor

4/10

Moe became popular AFTER Haruhi

it's all true. dragon ball z made millions and that's because anime back then was good so people actually bought it but now it's all crap like haruhi.

>>24520382

WELL DUH BECAUSE HARUHI POPULARIZED IT

I find it interesting that you mention it being a parody of its own genre, yet it in no way criticizes it to any extent that would have any progressive effect on Japanese animation culture.

Haruhi was only ever good because of the dancing.

>>24520382
and Halo invented FPS

There should be more Rozen Maiden style anime.

You get literally the best of both worlds. Excellent characters, plot, and design. Able to switch between serious and light hearted without disrupting the nature of the series, and plenty of endearing traits.

>>24520429
Wrong. Halo invented anime.

So to conclude, Haruhi is the most influential anime of the century?

>>24520419

>Haruhi was only ever POPULAR because of the dancing.

Then they fired Yamakan and K-On became popular.

>casual hates moe
what the fuck happened with K-on then?

No one buys anime OP. I invented the internet a few years ago so we could download shit for free off it

>>24520429
>>24520457

Both wrong, Halo invented itself.

>>24520461
Oh fuck, I mean't GOOD, not popular. Sorry.

>>24520467
Well, when you browse /a/ it looks like the western casuals still hate it.

But it doesn't really click the same as heavily otaku-moe anime. I have likened it more to Azumanga before, but while Azumanga is a Comedy/Slice of Life, K-ON is a Slice of Life/Comedy, I guess if that makes sense, cause I are dumb.

K-ON! is lighthearted, fun girls doing fun things. Not reference heavy, no real pantyshot/sexual pandering, but plenty of cute pandering. Things like that probably click better with casuals.

I think.

>>24520546
But you still wouldn't watch it with anyone else.

>>24520546

Oh boy no, casuals and most of those who dislike retarted moe can't stand the force fed squeaky kawaii xD that is K-On.

>>24520572
I might if somebody wanted to.

Hell, I watched an episode of Akagi with my brother once and Strike Witches with my mom.

>>24520598
Talking bout Japan bro.

I already mentioned the thing about westerners.

>>24520546
>K-ON! is lighthearted, fun girls doing fun things. Not reference heavy, no real pantyshot/sexual pandering, but plenty of cute pandering.

Really? Of the few episodes I watched, I'm pretty sure that I noticed a few sexual undertones. Like Mugi awakening to the more perverted things of life, I dunno.

>>24520615

Oh well, in Japan the casuals watch those dramas and things like Nodame Cantabile and Eden of the East.

>Strike Witches with my mom
so how'd that go?

>>24520651
Like you said, undertones. Spongebob has homosexual undertones too. It really has no affect on an average persons enjoyment.

>>24520546
>>24520598
so that's why dvd sales far outdid haruhi...

>>24520655
I thought Eden of the East was aired very late at night?

>>24520658
It was a lie, but I thought it was kawaii and funny.

>>24520248
casual fans don't even watch new stuff, and don't try telling me your average fan doesn't like haruhi.