Have you watched Seirei no Morbitio?

>Why is it that "strong" girl characters can only be strong if they dress in skimpy clothing
I wish to see Balalaika and Sir Hellsing in skimpy clothing.

>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAW

they are drawn in a specific way and given a voice by someone that reads sentences off of a piece of paper.

anime characters have neither personality nor shame

Do you know Oscar?

>>21590704
Because you're GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY.

Anime is sexist towards men. In real life, women are basically useless in any situation that requires physical strength or combat ability, yet they're often on par with men in anime. It's disgusting.
Anime is basically raising a generation of feminists.

Why is anime so sexist, /a/? Why is it that there's always some hints at love between "strong" boy characters?

I disagree good sir

>>21590727
Aren't her outer thighs exposed? SKIMPY!

That is not true, there are plenty of strong women not wearing skimpy clothing. You are probably watching fanservice shows where ALL the girls are wearing skimpy clothing, weak, strong, and normalfag girls alike.

Tsubasa is elegant and ladylike.

>>21590772
>Anime is basically raising a generation of feminists.

OH DEAR GOD NO

>>21590784
Oh man you almost got me. God I'm losing my troll sense of humor.

Cause it looks better.

>>21590734

So meta.

I had this same discussion among an mmo board once, in the fact stronger level chars wear less and less clothes thats "supposed" to be considered armour. Girls like it that way and it is acceptable for most guys while the rest of us don't. Its popular and eye-catching almost everyone likes half naked chicks running around destroying shit. Its bullshit tbh

Women in anime are just dudes with vaginas

>>21590810
watch out or you'll turn into diggtard and we'll have to put /sarcasm at the ends of all our posts to keep flame wars from erupting

example of a strong girl character dressed in skimpy clothing for fanservice purposes

Why is anime so sexist, /a/? Why is that "strong" men characters can only be strong if they simply wear pants and serve as fanservice?

>>21590704
anime is sexist because japan is sexist. Simple as that, bra.

You talk as if American movies and comics weren't sexist, bra.

>>21590836
Dudes in anime are just women with penises

>>21590759
Oscar is the manliest woman ever.

>>21590836

Unironically agreeing with this.

And males are all females w/dicks.

>>21590772
>Anime is basically raising a generation of feminists.

The thing is, animu doesn't pretend to be something it's not. It's mainly meant to appeal to males, and males in general are not interested in seeing women who don't look or act attractive in some way.

Seriously, why should we?

I CAN'T FUCKING TELL THE BROS FROM THE HOES ANYMORE OH GOD

Why is there no fat chicks in animu? I have a fetish.

>girl characters can only be strong if they dress in skimpy clothing and serve as fanservice?
Pro tip: because that what they really are, bitches and whores, just go to your local bar and complaint how all the girls in there has skimpy cloths.

>>21590949

Because it makes for more realistic/enjoyable show for some people rather than just seeing huge shows filled with moeblobs and no males/regular women in sight.

>>21590925
Feminists who're against anime are fucking retarded. It's like if the PETA where to hate Tom and Jerry. Fuck.

>>21590949
There are many types of attractiveness.
Which is why there are so many different archetypes, to appeal to everyone. Even the businesswoman type who is basically all covered up can be attractive.

No one mentioned Saber. I'm speechless.

>>21590963
Satsuki Yotsuba from Mahou Sensei Negima.

>>21590982
"Strong" girl characters aren't particularly realistic either.

because japan is sexist

question answered

>>21591042
They would be if they are assasins or fucking warriors trained to kill.

>>21591025
Sure, but what people would call a "strong woman" can't really be considered attractive by any male standard.

>>21591088
Too bad they aren't, then.

i had the superb opportunity to be with a strong (willed) girl for about 3 months....it was really nice ;_;

in before...things

>>21591103
Actually, they can be depending on the male.

I knew a guy who had a fetish for muscular women.

>>21591140
This is not a ronery thread, you faggot.

>>21591103
It's more that women can't be strong, unless they're taking male hormones/steroids.

>>21591162
every thread on /a/ is a ronery thread

>>21591167
Not true either. Women do have their strengths, they're just not the same as a man's strength.

>>21590990

Protip: There is no such thing as feminists against anime.

>>21591147
I'm pretty sure we're not talking physically strong, more about strength in attitude and shit like that, traits that the very basic male heterosexual attraction drive goes against.

>>21591103
You mean as in, literally strong? Even so, I'm sure there are a few sickos out there with a fetish for women with muscles.
If you mean strong as in, the hotblooded or the determined types, then I must disagree. I find those types to be very attractive. A girl with both the looks and the will to never give up even if it's hopeless, that's perfection to me.

>>21591167
Only if you are talking about physical pyunching strength. Most anime shows usually have their powers caused by magic or the power of friendship and shit.

not true OP
here, have a strong female

>>21591247
Again, depends on the guy.

>>21591230
I tried googling that to see if you were right. I should've known I would regret it
http://mediagirl.org/node/1513

>>21591247

Heterosexual male sex drives are against strength in attitudes?

lollllllll...makes sense actually.

>>21591334
yeah.. wow
>1. The writers could have written Misa's role as woman who was not constantly being physically objectified, intellectually incompetent, and emotionally submissive. Instead of writing her as the "weaker" character, Misa could have been a heroine.

2. Instead of the show being a showdown of two male intellectuals, it could have been a showdown of two minds: one male and one female.

3. Both Rem and Misa were easily tricked by Light. The writers could have written the two main female roles in such as way as to have equally tricked the protagonist Light.

4. More female roles!! Most of the significant roles were reserved for males.

>>21591258
Trust me, if there's something you find attractive about her, there's someone out there who will claim she's objectifying women.

I think physically strong women are a result of poor writing. Why not write about women who know that they can't be physically equal to a man, so instead rely on skills they actually do have. A girl who uses her brain?! NOOOO!

>Why not write about women who know that they can't be physically equal to a man, so instead rely on skills they actually do have. A girl who uses her brain?! NOOOO!

Are you serious? Thats pretty much the only way a girl wins who doesn't have some supernatural power.

>>21591334
Ugh, fucking feminazis. I like how she forgot to write that Light is a genius and easily manipulates not only Misa but a majority of the male characters as well.

>>21591412
Well, naturally, other females get jealous if another female is getting more attention, be they fictional or not. This is why I hate my own gender more than anything.

>>21591429
>girls
>brains
laughingelfman.jpg

Oh hey.

>>21591406
tbh I would have preferred that female detective not getting killed off immediately.

What about strong male characters who run around shirtless or wearing tight spandex?

>>21591525
>Well, naturally, other females get jealous if another female is getting more attention, be they fictional or not.
Oh wow, and you honestly think men don't do that as well?

>>21591464
No, most females in anime win by having plot shields and the strength of ten men.

>>21591412
I don't deny that, but that's taking it a little too far. It's as if they wouldn't be satisfied unless the strong girl was a godawful ugly dyke that no one in their right mind would find attractive.
But then! They would complain that only ugly women are portrayed as strong... you just can't win against that.

>>21591334

See even she isn't against anime so much as against the sexism of Death Note--and Death Note is pretty sexist.

>>21591525

>Ugh, fucking feminazis. I like how she forgot to write that Light is a genius and easily manipulates not only Misa but a majority of the male characters as well.

Misa's entire motivation after meeting Kira is Light's cock. Also saying that girl is a nazi for sharing her thoughts makes you sound like an oversensitive baby.

>Well, naturally, other females get jealous if another female is getting more attention, be they fictional or not.

This is bullshit, btw and does not even make sense.

>>21591588
Anime needs more guys who can flex their shirts off. Just sayin'.

>>21591750
No, I'm pretty sure they do too. Although, again, it's for different reasons.

>>21591750
Men do not do that.

>>21591750
Yes.

Yep, females get all jealous when people pay attention to fictional females, all their favorite female characters are background shit. Thats why Molly was so damn popular in Sailor Moon. Flerp derp dorp.

>>21591872
Death note is mostly realistic in the gender roles. Males simply don't have female rivals who they are on equal terms with. Just deal with it.

Because in middle of all that fireball-no-jutsu and 13-year old kids saving the world shit animes try to be atleast little realistic, and as it is common knowledge, that there isnt any real strong independent strong women out there, so they have to rely on 'superhumans' that obvisuly arent earth, and thus wear little less than we terrans, as their home planet has lower temperature than ours, also as they are superhumans they have enormous boobs, so they wouldnt need phillow in middle of all that space travelling.

grr how dare Clare get all that attention!!!

Theresa sama please look at meee!!!!

Oh wait--no wait---Fin is retarded. Nevermind. Phew.

>>21591588

Is Hei a sex object, /a/?

>>21591946
>Misa's entire motivation after meeting Kira is Light's cock.
hurr this never happens in real life

>>21590704
Hmm, why are women in media predominantly aimed at young males dressed appealingly? That's a tough one...

OP, did your mother call you "special" an awful lot by any chance?

>>21592087
> Molly

Why must you remind me? God, her voice was like listening to monkeys playing violins with hacksaws.

>>21592168

Where do you people c+p this shit from?

>>21592130

Males also have no magical killing notebooks, you faggot. It is a cartoon show where all females are motivated by who they want to fuck, plain and simple. Still an ok show, but the girl on that blog is hardly the first one who rolled their eyes at it.

>>21592210

Yea, but at least no one paid attention to her and eventually she dropped out of that show altogether. I have fond memories on the playground of all us playing "Molly" together. Good times.

Seriously though, stop posting forever.

>>21592233
This post doesn't contradict anything I said at all.

Why are feminists always so damn butthurt?

>>21592316
>Males simply don't have female rivals who they are on equal terms with. Just deal with it.

pretty sexist sounding there

>>21592284
Didn't say that I hated the character herself, just her voice. She and Melvin were a very cute couple as well.

>>21592364

You said females are jealous when a fictional female gets attention, which is just so much bullshit I am still in shock. This is what shut-in weeaboos really believe.

>>21592362
Too bad you can't prove it wrong.

>>21592387
He's referring to shut-in female weeaboos.

>>21592316

No it doesn't, it's just pointing out that your post is irrelevant.

>>21592401

Yeah, anime is sexist. We know that.

Human kind cannot acquire anything without first giving something of equal value that is the first rule of alchemy, they give us fanservice we give them strength, seems like fair trade here

>>21592401
Thats my point, I should be able to prove you wrong easily.

>>21592418

So am I, the entire statement was about 10 levels of stupid no matter what subgroup of females you are talking about.

>>21592443
I mean in real life. A rival position isn't something you can gain with the help of someone else, so how many females have been rivals on equal terms with males should be a good measure on how equal the genders really are with no handicaps.

>>21592510

There are plenty of male/female rivalries they just are not explored in your animes so a weeaboo like yourself never experiences them.

>>21592387
Well, I admit that my experiences with other females has been less than wholesome. However, while I'm not entirely right, I'm not entirely wrong either. I did once hear a story about a guy whose ex-girlfriend got jealous enough to ransack his room when she found out he was collecting figurines of anime girls.

I must ask you though, why the heck did you use that reply on my comment on Molly?

What does c+p stand for?

And if animes would be sexist, they wouldnt have any females in 'em, except in kitchens.

>>21592543
Give examples then. Seriously, I'm waiting.

Because Japan is honest. Women get power using sex appeal, Japan is honest about that. In american media we like to pretend that it isn't the case.

i can think of a couple of non skimpy strong characters

In an anime about ramen the strongest off all was a fat woman, fryface fromn black lagoon is always dressed in clothes that make sense with what she is doing. The master woman fromn fullmetal alchemist dresses as a houswife... theres more too

>>21592581

Herp derp, some story you heard third hand has nothing to do with how females feel about fictional women. You are literally a retarded bitch. (Though to be fair, I suppose many normalfag women/men would look down on someone who collected anime figurines.)

It was used in response to your Molly post because your Molly post was in response to a post telling you to stop posting forever. I wrote that to remind you of the fact that you are stupid and you seriously need to stop.

>>21592685
That might be largely true but that doesn't mean its the way it should be.

>>21592685

Who? Who has ever gotten real power using sex appeal?

>>21592722
Secret pepl at tehir bunkars has it.
No u.

>>21592602

Rivalries at school, work, and within the family. To name a famous example, there was Clinton vs. Obama in the primaries (most famous women have primarily male rivals just because there are a lot more famous men).

Either go outside more often, pay attention to the news, or shut up because you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>>21592214
So what does c + p stand for?
C(plus)p cant get it.

>>21592040
You clearly have never worked in a corporation or the academia. Enjoy your part time job which pays hsit.

>>21592791
>Clinton vs. Obama
Even with all the extra credit Hilary got for having a vagina, those weren't equal terms at all.

I suggest you give some good and specific answers instead of pretending there's something vital I don't know which makes the argument impossible. Saying "god exists, you would know if you had read all the books in the religious section at the library" isn't an argument, it's an excuse to dismiss an argument without having provided any actual information.

>>21592710
> I disagree with your opinions about women, therefore you are stupid and you should stop posting forever.

Whatever.

>>21592685
True, but the best women can do by just being sexy is become married to a famous man. It doesn't particularly take much skill to do that. Now, it does take skill to not only be sexy, but smart and deadly (picture is related, of course.)

>>21592928
>Even with all the extra credit Hilary got for having a vagina, those weren't equal terms at all.
I don't see your point. To me it seemed they were pretty equal.

But fine, there are countless other examples anyway, like the Nobel prize, all categories, since when it was created.

>>21592928

Yes, yes they really were--for a long while before the actual primaries Obama didn't even stand a chance.

Saying males and females are not rivals is as stupid as saying they are not friends and in order to think so you would literally have no never go outside or interact with real life people. I don't really know how else to tell you.

>>21593038
I'm sorry, but saying that you hate your gender because all women are envious of each other, when men behave exactly the same way, is pretty stupid.

>>21593038

"Red is a nice color" is an opinion. "Spaghetti is delicious" is an opinion. "Women are jealous of fictional characters" is ass retarded. Now gtfo already you stupid, stupid bitch.

>>21592722
Pretty much every woman. Many of them sit at home while their husband works, they make many of the decisions, etc. and how did they get into this situation, how did they gain this power, by their sex appeal to their husband.
Look at any woman, very very few of them have actually gotten their lives using their own intelligence, they instead use sex appeal to get men to give them what they want.

Asking for 2nd time, and for last, but could anyone share with me what does c + p mean?:)

>>21592581

I wonder why your experiences with females are less than wholesome--it couldnt possibly be because you say stupid shit about them all the time, could it? Nawww....I am sure they are just jealous of you, yea...thats it. They're jealous of how pretty and interesting you arekmjfdkfjhahahahahahha....

>>21593305

Copy and paste.

>>21593149
To be completely truthful, I don't like either genders or at least the stereotypes that genuinely seem to plague them. I suppose this is why I don't have many friends, but that's not important.

Also, you must've missed >>21591990 where I said that men do get jealous of each other, but for different reasons. Not entirely mind you, but different enough to where some of them are incomparable.

>>21593305
I was going to tell you, but then you used a smiley. So I'm just gonna tell you - lurk the fuck more.

>>21593305
copy + paste you retard

>>21593047
>But fine, there are countless other examples anyway, like the Nobel prize, all categories, since when it was created.
What part of 'specific' don't you understand? "Hitler vs. Churchill" is specific, "politics" is not.

>>21593391
My onee-chan and me.

>>21593293

Being a housewife and making some decisions around the house is not remotely a position of power, which is why back when most women WERE housewives for life, the entire second wave of feminism was started purely from their own frustration and annoyance.

Needless to say though "most women" do not sit around home all day, and nearly all women work, regardless of whether they have a job or not.

>>21593263
I don't think you really know what an opinion is, son.

>>21593314
> arekmjfdkfjhahahahahahha....

Ugh. Enough of this shit.

>>21593341

You "don't have many friends" because you are a retard with fucked up "opinions" like "women are jealous of fictional people". You don't have many friends here either I'm assuming so gtfo.

>>21593426
>the entire second wave of feminism was started purely from their own frustration and annoyance.
Sure, women sat around for 5000 years and acted like they were fine with it until they suddenly found out they were being oppressed.

>>21593547

Women were not modern housewives for 5000 years. You really need to read some history and geography and shit, damn.

>>21593521
You should see late night /a/. They're even worse.

>>21593605
>Women were not modern housewives for 5000 years.
That doesn't change my point at all.
>geography
wat

>>21593620

I do hang out late nights (early mornings?) on /a/, I rather enjoy trolling them actually. They are mostly trolls and virginal pathetic chubby weeaboos.

You're just wrong though.

>>21593547
Well, technically, they never did just sit around for 5000 years. Until late into the 18th century, most women had to work just as hard as men, in agriculture and even commerce and trade. The belief that woman shouldn't be allowed to work became fashionable only in the 19th century, with the rise of the middle class.

>>21593426
This is what women WANT you to think. But think about it, they can completely control men from behind the scenes. They have power while making men think THEY have the power.

>130 posts and 22 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

/a/ will never change

>>21593694
>That doesn't change my point at all.

Yes it does, you claimed women sat around frustrated for 5000 years when it was housewifery which frustrated women and only became widespread with the rise of the middle class in the 20th century.

>wat

Yes, you fucker...geography.

Well Hi!

>>21593426
while housewives may lead you to believe that they work hard all day, cooking and cleaning only really takes up a small part of the day. Shopping and stuff may keep them from sitting around but I wouldn't call it work.

>>21593825

She's shit in a fight without her autopilot blob symbiot.

I'll never understand why some people can't see women as equal.

Sup

>>21593859
Because they're not. And they only want to pretend they are when it's convenient. But as soon as one of them is "raped" because she can't fight against the big strong men... ...

>>21590704
>Why is anime so sexist, /a/?
Because it's japanese shit. All japs are fucking sexists.

>>21593697
> You're just wrong though.

Wouldn't be the first time and it certainly won't be the last. Well, good day sir. I'll just be going elsewhere. This entire thread is nothing but trolls trolling trolls.

>>21593833

Cooking takes a long time if you are cooking something from scratch.

Women who are housewives nowadays are 9/10 housewives for the sake of one or more small obnoxious children in the house. This is what most of their time, effort and work is spent on. They also clean and cook in what spare time they have.

>>21593766
What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course they've been housewives for 5000 years, with very very few exceptions.

>>21593766
It's not important whether they counted as housewives, my point is that feminists act like females were extremely opposed to their role in society for over 5000 years, which is extremely silly.

>>21593859
Because not enough evidence have been provided that they actually are?

Equality should be about equal rights and equal opportunity. Feminists and moron thinks equality is about women being equally strong as men in fiction, which is just plain retarded.

>>21593992

This is very very very wrong and you really really really need to study history or stop learning it from the flintstones.

>>21593925
again, housewife myths
I am a housewife with 4 kids who cooks from scratch, being honest with you.

The kids aren't small forever, after a couple of years they go to school, and housewives in Japan usually don't return to work when that happens, many housewives elsewhere don't either.

Kids don't take up all that much time, sure you spend a couple of hours a day teaching them things, and a few minutes here and there switching them from activity to activity... but they're either so small that they can't walk around or they're able to help you fold the laundry and such.

>>21594087
Yeah, and I suggest you open a history book, and stop believing everything the raging feminists tell you.

Women are fanservice. All there is for em
http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?81050
nuff said

>>21594065
This is much easier to support. I won't demand that all women should stay housewives against their will, but stop encouraging them to be something they're not, goddamnit.

If a women isn't a housewive then you need to get a maid who will substitute for her. Wifes also gotta make a lot of money to make up for her duties
http://www.animecubed.com/billy/?81050

>>21590704
Why is anime so sexist, /a/? Why is it that "strong" boy characters can only be strong if they dress in skimpy clothing and serve as fanservice?

>>21594130

I am going to say I am very skeptical. Post pics of self w/kids+timestamp please.

>>21594121

I have I study history a lot. "Housewife" is a modern invention by any measurement.

>>21594284
Why is anime so sexist, /a/? Why is it that "strong" boy characters can only be strong if they dress in skimpy clothing and serve as fanservice?

>>21593925
Dependent on demographic. Middle-class in industialized society tends to have both parents working.
>>21590772
Not so much in the current era. While women are geneticly disposed for less muscle mass than men, they do tend to have a better eye for detail, more patience, and much more refined motor skills. This tends to make them excellent snipers and pilots.
In support of this, Lyudmila Mikhailivna Pavlichenko

>>21590704
Generally to appeal to the japanese male insecurity by allowing them a dominant position.

>>21594350
Kenshiro is a Tough Boy. That's why.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMLan8kbmo

>>21594307
no way, there are several people who come here who would recognize me/the kids (and even our house, if I blurred out the faces)... I would not be honest like this if not anonymous.

>>21594307
Right. You're a raging feminist without a clue about the real world.

>>21591088
Go watch Taimanin Asagi, we'll see what happens to strong women then BTW movie is very /d/

Christ, I hate women.

>>21594367
Bullshit. Russia used female snipers and pilots because they were losing four soldiers for every German soldier they killed. The snipers only succeeded because they were deadlocked in the ruins of Stalingrad, and the female pilots died like flies.

The major fault in anime is that they pit a 45Kg, 160cm skinny girl with twigs for arms, against a 90Kg, 185cm muscle guy, as evenly matched opponents. Won't work.
One of the main reasons I like Airmaster. Maki is taller and more muscled than most of her male opponents.

About being sexist, well why do you think girls like shounen series? Fanservice.

And strong charcters are not restricted to physicle strength, but also emotional and intellectual strength.

>>21594466

Ok so you have no evidence for all these hunter-gatherer era "housewives" and now you are just calling names--really stupid names because "feminism" has not been a controversial stance since the fucking 1950s.

>>21594528
That wouldn't really work, as a tall women would be exceptionally weak, since they don't have the muscle mass to back up such a large frame.

>>21594488
strong women, more like rape magnets

>>21594463

You would not be anonymous at all if you were honest. Why would a housewife with 4 kids (!!!!!!!!) go on 4chan? Why would someone have 4 kids at all nowadays?

>>21594558
Feminism is pure evil. Equality is ok, but feminism is the exact opposite.

Yes, women have been housewives since the hunter gatherer phase. The men went out and hunted, while the women stayed close to their encampment, and prepared food, gathered firewood, took care of the children and the elderly, and so on. It's the same today, if you look at any primitive tribe.

>>21594601
Sounds like the real world equivalent

>>21591750

What? No. Whenever I see a popular male character I either idolize and respect him or use him as a standard that I strive to achieve.

This is what I hate most about women: they make the most bull shit assumptions and project their unlearned minds and whims on others.

>>21594603
What the fuck else am I going to do all day? As I said, cooking, cleaning and taking care of the kids does not really take that much time.

Why have 4 kids? I don't know. Why does anyone have 1 kid?

>>21594561
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxZ0pA7Jk_g

>>21594625

>Yes, women have been housewives since the hunter gatherer phase. The men went out and hunted, while the women stayed close to their encampment, and prepared food, gathered firewood, took care of the children and the elderly, and so on. It's the same today, if you look at any primitive tribe.

They also gathered, trapped small animals, sometimes grew food, took care of the sick, made cloth, tools, baskets, and shelter.

This is not housewifery. You appear not to know what being a "housewife" entails.

>>21594680

Yes, most poeple nowadays have 1 or 2 kids. Go take care of your kids for real and take them to the park or something, goddamn you are pathetic. Wtf mother browses 4chan?

>>21594528
>women
>having physical, intellectual, or emotional strength

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>21594775
hue hue hue

>>21594647

The "fictional" part is bullshit for both genders and Fin is a retard with no friends--both males and females do get jealous though.

And males 9/10 are the ones imposing thoughts onto women. Get over yourselves already.

>>21594759
uh, I actually AM at the park. But since it's built for small children, everything is too small for me to play on. So what am I going to do?

More mothers than you think browse 4chan. Some people don't suddenly become different people when they become parents. I liked the internet before I became a parent, and I still do.

>>21594680
>taking care of the kids does not really take that much time

Close your legs and never have any children.

Please.

Anime is aimed toward guys.

Guys like seeing sexy women.

/thread

>>21594742
That's exactly what it is. Just because you're a lazy bitch who refuse to cook, doesn't mean real housewives didn't do that. Back in the day, you couldn't buy anything like you could today, so the women had to make it. It was part of being a housewife, just like farmwork.

>>21594812

Yeah sure. Being so insistent gives you away.

yeah ok just keep believing the lies that being a housewife is SOOOOO much work, and pretend I am a bad person when I tell you the truth

Off I go to pretend that I'm working so hard

Because women actually don't really care about 'objectifying themselves' that much if the guy is extremely attractive.

And don't any of you dare deny it.

>>21594892
IM a guy and i do all the housework and i cook for myself alot, its not that hard I live in a Condo as well so dont say I only clean some skimpy 200X200 apartment

>>21594931
Come to think of it, I live in a three bedroom apartment by myself, and usually make my dinner from scratch. Not exactly a lot of work.

>>21594812

Oh i dunno...maybe try watching your kids instead of looking for anime discussions, maybe? Hope none of them fall and break open their face...

>>21594920
Women objectify men to a much greater extent. Look at the whole yaoi scene.

>>21594958
I know right? its like a annoying side hobby XD

>>21594970
I am watching them.
Am I going to stand under them constantly with my arms open in case they fall, no, and don't pretend like THAT would be being a good parent.

"A countryman cleaves earth with his crooked plough. Such is the labour of his life. So he sustains his native land."

- Virgil, Georgics.

Farming and housewivery has been the natural order of things for ages.

>>21594830

If they are housewives just because they stayed in the general settlement, than modern doctors, tailors, trappers, bakers, daycare workers are all housewives.

They all had roles to play as part of a a tribal economy. The unit was not "household" until much much later.

>>21595008
What do you think of traditional gender roles and feminism?

Also, what do you think of women who sleep around?

Herp derp having 4 kids is easy as cake kids! Just fuck all you want, squirt them out, browse 4chan all day and they take care of themselves!!

^^this is what stupid teenage mothers on welfare really believe^^

>>21592602

>Give examples then. Seriously, I'm waiting.

Why has no one called this guy on his bullshit yet? Here's a list of a women Nobel Laureates who were clearly competitors to the men of their times. http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/lists/women.html.

I fucking love athens.

he comes with the dust and he's gone with the wind.

Why did octomom take so much shit in the media anyway? Having 14 kids is easy as hell and totally normal. She just needs to pay some babysitter a few bucks to sit and browse 4chan all day and then go get a part time job, big deal.

>>21595138

Alot of people did as a matter of fact someone mentioned Nobel Prize laureates but he is an obvious troll so theres no point.

>>21595039

I don't see what you're getting at here. Most people don't travel beyond their job and their home on a daily basis.

Do you honestly believe women as a society of themselves would have been able to survive?

>>21595143

Sup athens

>>21595039
Wow, talk about being clueless. They basically did the same thing housewives do, which was taking care of the family. Back then, that requires more work than today, but it was still the same general thing. The man got the food/money, and the family's worth was based on how good he was.

This thread is so easy to troll it's not funny anymore.


Anyways, nowadays people get to chose their career paths, it doesn't matter to me what one does as long as they're usefull to society.

Personally I don't want to turn into some wage slave paying for a house without actually having time to be there to enjoy it. I also would want to raise and take care of my kids if/when I have them.
But then reality hits when you try to convince your boss that you want to work fewer hours because you have to take care of your kids. Prepare to be laughed at in the face.

Are women really that slutty?

I mean, will they purposefully cut off their nose to spite their face? For example. I was lurking /cgl/ a couple of weeks ago and some girl was bitching in a 'tell your stories' thread about how she slept with some 'jerk' at a convention a while back.

Why do women sleep with so many 'jerks' by their own admission?

>>21595172

They actually could have, since meat is not necessary for humans to survive, and that was the main function of men in the village--even though they use up more resources people needed big, strong, fast folk to bring back meat.

The fact that most people don't travel far is my point--women did not stay in the home during any other era, the fact that they stayed with the rest of their tribe during the hunter-gatherer times does not make them a "housewife".

They always had some part to play in the greater economy and functioning of society until the rise of the middle class--even after the rise of the middle class and in most places today, most low class women still worked in factories and in shops, which is why so much of the "career" part of second wave feminism didn't catch on with poor or third world women.

>>21595084
Traditional gender roles are good but I'm not for the pretending that women who stay at home work just as hard as men who actually work. Women are more suited to taking care of the children while men are more suited to going out and working hard, lets stop pretending otherwise.

Feminism is a load of bullshit. Women want to be equal until it means they have to work as much as men or be held responsible for their actions as men are. For example they want to be paid for having the same title at a job as a man, but not have to do as much work as they call off more often (such as when a kid is sick, when they're pmsing, maternity leave when most companies don't have paternity leave). Or they want to not work at all but feel that they are entitled to at least half of what their husband worked for. Another example, supposedly when a woman gets drunk and has sex it's rape, but how often are women arrested for "raping" drunk men?

Women who sleep around are horrible. I would say stone them to death but then who would take care of the kids.

>>21595111
I never said it was easy as cake but it's nowhere near as hard as going to an actual job every day, which I know because I have done both.

Sure have as much sex as you want, as long as you don't have kids you can't afford. I don't believe welfare should even exist. Yes it's easy as cake for people on welfare, and in fact they get more money the more kids they have and... you know what, just don't get me started on welfare.

>>21595305

Even jerks can be decent just to fuck, you know.
Why do dudes sleep with bitches?

>>21595138
That's not rivalry, it's a judgment of achievements already taken place. Rivalry suggest that there has been an active opposition from both parts, something women have not proven capable of providing towards a man.

Also, kinda funny how most of the prices women have been awarded are for discoveries.

>>21595344

>Yes it's easy as cake for people on welfare....

Ok, you are a troll. Good to know. Now gtfo.

>>21595324
they could have survived... until a predator came into the settlement.

>>21595210

The nuclear family was not the unit back then.
Women got most of the food and continue to get most of the food in hunter gatherer societies from gathering and setting traps, not men. Men got larger game animals for meat/hides.

>>21590863
seconded

>>21595353
Sleep with bitches? What are you talking about?

Men hate bitches, I'll give you that fratboy types tend to hook up with their equals in intellectual weight but that's no excuse for your shit. And even then, a fratboy won't pretend that the bitch he fucked was particularly endearing outside of the physical aspect anyway.

>>21595344
Wow, you're like the greatest wife who ever existed.... Good for your husband. He's a lucky man.

Also, what do you think of cosplayers? I pretty much hate them.

>>21595420

Most of the time men were away from the settlement anyway, so if a predator really could take down an entire settlement of women then it would have (it couldnt though).

>>21595397
because being paid to do nothing - not even having to keep a man happy, the house clean, cook from scratch, etc - is so hard

>>21595324
>They actually could have
No. One of the main reasons people abandoned the early hunter/gatherer societies in favor of agricultural societies were that with the growth of the population, hunter/gatherer societies weren't able to provide enough food. Agricultural societies actually required more hard work, which only the men were capable of providing to a satisfactory level.

>>21590863
Japan is NOT sexist. Japan is the closest thing to a utopia on earth. Lowest crime rates. Beautiful countryside. Public services that work. Great transportation. Great urban environments. Amazing modern/traditional mix of culture. Interesting religion.

In what other country can you walk past an 80,000 seater stadium after a music event when everyone is coming out and feel safe?

You guys bash Japan no end, but it's one hell of a country in my opinion.

>>21595430

Men will date bitches. Men marry bitches. Men throw their money at bitches. Men are used by bitches. They might "hate" bitches" but that makes no difference in the end. Men are retarded and usually can't even tell when a woman is a bitch or not.

>>21595479
I'm sure they left a guard or two. Or what would have stopped a man from another tribe from just coming over and raping all the women?

>>21595529
Are you speaking from experience?