Try /jp/

and what would be a God tier language?

>>20682180

Try AMERICAN.

I think he's from Singapore? Maybe Hong Kong.

>>20682193
tru dat

He's Chinese

ARR ASIANS ROOK THE SAME

>>20682193
I think that's all I needed to know, thanks.

Japanese is a shit tier language because no one else besides nips speak it.

Japanese is god tier due to it's consistency and beauty.

English is shit tier. So fucking confusing doesn't make any sense at all. I feel sorry for anyone trying to learn it.

As a written langauge Japanese and Chinese are far superior to English (from a linguistics point of view). English however is a superior spoken language. What makes English better than Japanese and Chinese it is verbose vocabulary (pun intended) and its ability to add foreign words to its own language easily.

>>20682180
French.

>>20682271
>Japanese
>beauty
Uh...

>>20682279

>As a written langauge Japanese and Chinese are far superior to English (from a linguistics point of view).

Wanna elaborate a little on that?

It's shit tier when written. They should just ditch Kanji already, the only reason to keep using it is tradition.

Spoken or written just in Kana, it's a fine language. Makes more sense than English.

>As a written langauge Japanese and Chinese are far superior to English (from a linguistics point of view).

i dunno brah. english ordinary language philosophy has much more to work with than similar projects in chinese or japanese, if they ever develop

No, Japanese is kawaii tier, baka!

>>20682279
>and its ability to add foreign words to its own language easily
Just like Katakana.....oh wait....

GOD TIER - ROMANCE LANGUAGES
MID TIER - ENGLISH
SHIT TIER - EVERYTHING ELSE

I think I don't care. Discuss.

gb2/jp/ patriotfags/JAPAN IS SUPERIORfags

English is the best language. Its only real flaw is the spelling rules which are generally nonsensical and riddled with exceptions. In all other aspects it is perfect.

This video contains samples of most of the languages addressed in the image to the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYgunOggXEc&feature=related

Japanese is a dying language anyway. Give it awhile and all Japs will be speaking English.

>>20682279
>>As a written langauge, Japanese and Chinese are far superior to English they have all of those cool calligraphic symbols LOL xD

>>20682316
Kanji is the only thing that makes Japanese work as a written language. Think before you speak.

>>20682336

Katakana is *used* for foreign words, that doesn't mean it was meant for it or is actually good at it.

>>20682348
2/10

>>20682316
Kanji is by far better than both hirigana and katakana, i don't know enough kanji but the kanji i do know helps me understand sentences much faster and easier.

The whole world should be forced to speak English

God tier: Germanic languages

>>20682348
where the fuck is japanese

>>20682392
PROTIP - IT IS.

English, the language of America. nuff said

>>20682271
>weaboo

>>20682378
becuase words like アニメ and マンガ are not from Japan, right?

LATIN IS THE BEST LANGUAGE

>>20682316
>Derp I can't remember 2000 Kanji.

>>20682318
>i dunno brah. english ordinary language philosophy has much more to work with than similar projects in chinese or japanese, if they ever develop
>english ordinary language philosophy has much more to work with
That is because they stole their language from everyone else. I bet if you stole a little piece of various parts of the world you would have more to talk about at tea parties.

English is shit tier language. Discuss

>>20682316

Writing everything in Kana is like writinglikethisinenglishallthetime.

i dont know what i like better between german and english. with german you can have easy compound concepts that are often borrowed even by english. on the other hand it is aesthetically lacking

>The whole world should be forced to speak English
>PROTIP - IT IS

Never been to countries like Japan or France, I take it?

>>20682427

Anime is shortening of "Animation", a western word.

As an East Asian Languages and Literature major that has taken French, Spanish, and German, I can say Japanese has been the most fun and easiest to learn.

MY LANGUAGE > YOUR LANGUAGE

mite mite, boku wa nihongo o hanashimasu ^_^

japanese is quite an easy language to learn, only difficult things are the kanjis

Ę Ą Ć Ó Ś Ł Ń

>>20682452
Introduce spaces then.

>>20682427
anime is from animation so no, it's not a Japanese word at all. and manga is originally written in kanji

The perfect language is esperanto, too bad nobody uses it.

>>20682427
Comparing applies and orange there. "Anime" is a foreign word where as "Manga" is not 漫画. They just use Katakana cause japanese children are dumb as shit.

>>20682500
fuck yeah polish

I'm learning Chinese & Indian because they will the business powers of the future.

english is superior to all languages as a technical language
if you want to work with computers English is a must
same thing with science

>>20682516
>japanese children
>dumb
Yeah, of course.

Spanish is the best language, technichaly speaking. Can pronounce every sound, it's not confusing and have simple rules for everything.

English is OK, but it having a same letter making two different sound is not really neccessary, besides, having two ways of writting the same sound is retarded too.

Japanese is retarded, what fucking language can't produce every sound, it's fucking retarded to have a silabe system which doesn't even include every posibility.

A handful of Normans invaded England, and replaced almost half of the vocabulary with French words a thousand years ago.

Now with the chunnel, it's only a matter of time before the other half is replaced.

>>20682525
They said that about Japan in the 80s.

yes, if japan could just speak a real language we could watch their tv

>>20682487
I'll give you that but it also doesn't change the fact that most manga is written in katakana....shit makes no sense.

>>20682514
The problem with esperanto is that it is a gendered based language.

>>20682446
steal is a poor word here. it is flexible enough to accommodate new expressions, and preserve their original complexity

I think the ugliest language to listen to is Vietnamese. So many of their sounds come from the throat, its really hard to listen to. I notice when Vietnamese speak another language they still have that heavy accent hard to listen to.

Indian language is alright but their accent is really heavy.

I AM NOT BEING RACIST. JUST POINTING OUT WHATS EASY AND HARD TO LISTEN TO.

>>20682477
>implying the English language somehow isn't taking over in France and Japan

>>20682527
That is because of standards not because it was linguistically superior.

>>20682533
So true.

- Cuisine: just like "cooking", only better
- Extraordinaire: just like "extraordinary", only better
- Premier: just like "first", only better
...

And you know why? that's because
- French: just like "English", only better

>>20682571
Doesnt change the fact of the matter. The verb still gets the point across which is what makes English interesting.

>>20682554
The fuck manga are you reading?
Most raw manga I have is written with with a mix of Kanji, Hiragana, and Katakana.

Furigana next to the Kanji is usually written in Hiragana.

>>20682575
>implying the English language somehow isn't taking over in France and Japan

I visited both and had the hardest time finding English-speaking people. There are some, but not many. You've evidently never been there.

>>20682583
these standards were established for a reason
though I guess unpatriotic hippies like you would of rather had Russian or Arabic as the main international and technical lingua franca

I speak five languages, including japanese.


All of them suck. Beleive it!

>>20682554
Maybe the shonen shit you read.

German language is underrated tier.

most faggots think it's all hocks and hacks thanks to the nazis and hitler but few have ever heard the beauty of late 17th century poetry recited in German.

>>20682602
that's probably because french is used by elite socialites, thus the french expressions are considered more cultured in english. has nothing to do with the words themselves really

I'm going to guess the OP is an american who thinks he speaks "american"

>>20682647
>most manga is written

Doesn't sound like that to me. It sounds like he was referring to manga, not just the word.

>>20682640
That isnt the point. We are talking about language superiority through flexibility and quality, not through de facto government backwash.

>>20682645
even if it wasn't a shonen, why the fuck is it in katakana? SHIT MAKES NO SENSE!

>>20682602
French is basically the shittiest language in the world. Its just a big pile of inconsistencies and if you would go through the trouble of learning it the only people you could talk to are idiots like yourself and niggers.

>>20682666

German is evil. Forever proven by your post number.

But none of this will matter when you all become one with mother russia.

English must be the god tier language because it has become the language of international business and science.

Plus those first world countries that rule the world speak it.

>>20682666

That's what you get when you invest in weapons rather than art.

Well-known German words:
Führer
Blitzkrieg
Panzer
Nazi
Ubermensch
Lebensraum
Gestapo

>>20682531

The majority of sounds can be reproduced in Japanese. People exaggerate it's lack of sounds.

And English doesn't have every sound. Does it have a later flap(ɺ)? No, but Japanese does. There are plenty of sounds English doesn't have like the alveolar trill(rolling r).

>>20682694
Again, what the fuck manga are reading that's written in all Katakana? I'd like to know, because I've never came across that.

>>20682602
protip, only douchebags use french words.

and dont point out the irony of that statement

Sorry to shit on your parade but the best language out there is clearly Irish.

Conas ata tú?

>>20682736
Taco taco taco?

I've taken courses in Japanese and Spanish, and of the two I can say I preferred Japanese more. However, just from beginning to learn those languages, I have come to appreciate English more, because it must be an absolute nightmare for anyone who wasn't born with it to learn. I think it is probably the best language once acquired, but the process of learning it and all of its exceptions and arbitrary changes would probably make people consider if its really worth it or not.

I plan on continuing to learn Jap in the future, it was fun. Also considering learning a euro language as well.

>>20682696
You mean if I learned French I could actually understand what niggers say? That's awesome!

>>20682716
All Nazi-terms, I don't see your point.The third Reich was just one chapter in german history in a long row, a chapter no one sane holds dear.

Italian is the best language. Is there any language that sounds more appealing? I think not.

lol Americunts

>>20682721
Even though English doesnt have those commonly, it is still possible for English speakers to use those sounds after some short practice.

Japanese are finally getting around to the use of the letter 'L' and what, they have been learning English for over 60 years.

>>20682715

But that's only because English speaking countries have been the one to dominate the world. If It was South East Asia we'd all be speaking Mandarin and Japanese.

Klingon is the most beautiful language in the universe

Hab SoSlI' Quch!

>>20682767
Pasta pasta pasta?

all academic and scientific journals that mean anything are published in english, mostly exclusively.

>>20682777
RETS REARN ENGRISH

>But that's only because English speaking countries have been the one to dominate the world. If It was South East Asia we'd all be speaking Mandarin.

fix'd

>>20682696
I don't speak French.

Point stands (check the Oxford Dictionary): English has had about 12,000 words from 25,000 replaced by French words already.
And it's continuing through elitist fags who think it's smart. "Oeuvre", "genre": you didn't hear those that much not too long ago.

>>20682754
>able to speak English and Spanish but would like to know a European language

german needs more love. arguably the most influential and original stuff were done in german in the 19-20 centuries.

God Tier: Body language.

Can't express moe no words can

>>20682721
But English as Th, clearly the most awesome sound, as seen in awesome sentences like Thor threw the three thrones through the thatching.

>>20682736
Gaelic is a dead language.

can't help but imagine that all of you guys are lonely white nerds who are wannabe japanese. kinda funny.

back on topic, I think Spanish is the easiest to learn gramatically speaking. Their are no exceptions to their rules, if you have any knowledge of latin based languages (i.e. english, french, german) and wish to pick up Spanish, you'll see how easy it is.

American English in my opinion is pretty tough. Their are so many exceptions to the use of the language, that if a foreigner were to try and pick it up, they will have a hard time mastering it.

Japanese is hard to learn in terms of reading and writing because you are mixing four different writing styles. You have your Chinese Kanji, Katakana, Hiragana, and Romanji.

Chinese by itself is simple and easy to learn, but those who grew up with a latin based alphabet will find it difficult because the concept of the language is not based on parts added together to make a whole (i.e. letters to form words) but a single character represents a word or various words. Thus for Chinese you have to memorize at least 1,500 to 3,000 characters to be able to communicate efficiently.

Unlike Latin based languages where you can just mix and match and get the general idea of a word.

Scandinavian languages are god tier for the amount of different sounds they use. Too bad I don't speak any of them.

>>20682721

Try getting a japanese person to say these words properly:

Thespian
Slalom
Eccentric

私は日本語の学生です。

>>20682666
>>666
olol.
imho german has too many throat sounds, and you can never be sure is the word is written with -CH, -SH or -SCH because they just sound so alike especially if pronounced by non-german speaker.

>>20682822

I never said I could speak Spanish. I honestly didn't like the language at all, and I've pretty much forgotten about all of it, I just took it for a requirement to get into college. By euro language, I meant something like German.

>French is basically the shittiest language in the world

LOL you know every single language in the world? quite the scholar I see.
So, surely, I don't need to point out that "language" was a word introduced by the French? you need to use "Sprach" or something in order keep the old Saxon purity of the language.

English is God Tier because it's the asshole of all the languages that basically came along and kicked the shit out of them for some of their words and then told them to go fuck themselves, it also constantly shits on everyone who likes it by having tons of inconsistencies; in short the best language on the planet.

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>20682666

Studied German for like 9 years and shit sucked.

>>20682531
You are retarded if you think Spanish and English span the entire range of vowels and consonants.

>>20682868
Many native English-speakers will also mispronounce these words, what's your point?

I laugh at all the faggots at my Uni in the 1st year Japanese class.

Wearing their Naruto headbands, you just know the fags are gonna end up dropping out halfway through.

I wanted to make a constructive comment while reading through this thread... but realized that that is inherently (by the nature of the thread) impossible, so all I have to say is

LISP MOTHERFUCKERS - THAT IS A PERFECT FUCKING LANGUAGE

also omaera no sicp ha kyo ga mada yonda ka??

Also: IF THE Y WOULD HAVE A SELF-SUFFICIENT LANGUAGE THEY WOULD JUST WRITE BOOKS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE (not that I really don't enjoy reading manga)

>>20682903
Schön scheiße für dich.Warum machst du das auch?

>>20682873
うそうすき！

>>20682782
But if the world spoke Mandarin would we be developed as we currently are?

The English languages flexibility appears to allow it to express ideas much better than other languages. Which is probably part of the reason why those English speakers early on developed the technology required faster than anyone else to rule the world.

>>20682929
Every hear of light novels?

>>20682777

And you only say that because you obviously don't know Japanese and have never noticed Americans butcher words.

Japanese doesn't have an r sound, so of course most Native Japanese speakers will have trouble pronouncing it. Not every accent can translate well into another language. For example, British people are exceptional at reproducing an American accent, yet it is rare to see an American who can reproduce a half decent British one.

Accents aren't something you can just "learn" easily.

>>20682721
inb4 voiceless palatal-velar fricative

>>20682887
>implying English isn't a European language

>>20682924

Oh they do. I remember walking into my Jap class two weeks after it started and suddenly half the class was gone. We didn't get anyone with Naruto headbands, but we did get really stupid fucks who were obviously taking it not knowing what they were getting into.

>>20682977
>light novels
>representative of japanese written output
hahaha oh wow

>>20682785

DID YOU HEAR ME /a/? I SAID YOUR MOTHER HAS A SHINY FOREHEAD.

>>20682994

What you mean to tell me that English wasn't invented by America?

Impossible.

>>20682732
>protip, only douchebags use french words.
>and dont point out the irony of that statement

okay I won't, but I'll point out that you'd have a very hard time to speak English while avoiding the like 40% of French words in it.

The fact that the Kings of England and nobility spoke French and refused to learn English for like 400 years was a hard blow to the native language.

>>20682923

Th, Sl, and Tri sounds are very hard for Japanese people to master, while if you learn Japanese from an English standpoint you can hit almost everything properly (with the exception of the ra ri ru re ro) series from just knowing English.

>>20682999
Hey.
I was moved by the Toradora! novels. ;_;

My favorite language I've learned so far is Chinese. Its grammar is extremely simple and logical, and words are all short and word building is also extremely logical.

English does have a broad vocabulary and good grammar system, and then there's languages like French, which have perhaps overly complicated grammar but sound beautiful.

I also like Hungarian. It's quite hard to learn but it sounds awesome.

>>20682822
The Spanish taught in America isn't the same dialect as the Spainards. Funny, but it's true. And American English is American English.

>>20682531
No, Spanish has fuck retarded conjugation rules like in all Romance Languages. And LOL SOME MASCULINE NOUNS ARE ACTUALLY FEMININE. And I studied both Japanese and Spanish, and at one point I was fluent in Spanish as well, although I forgotten it all due to never using it after junior year.

In America they should make Spanish the primary language. Because Mexicans are basically flooding this country. You got Mexican Drug Cartel wars leaking into the U.S. towns and Spanish speaking illegals hanging out at the old Home Depots to send money back to their poor families.

>>20682894
You could also at it the other way: English took all the good parts of French for itself, so there's no point in dealing with all of French anymore.
>>20682962
a tsu doesn't have a line over it, sorry to say.

>>20682852
>back on topic, I think Spanish is the easiest to learn gramatically speaking. Their are no exceptions to their rules, if you have any knowledge of latin based languages (i.e. english, french, german) and wish to pick up Spanish, you'll see how easy it is.
>latin based languages (i.e. english, french, german)
>latin based languages
>(i.e. english, german)

lol, wut? Both of those are Germanic languages

>>20683049

Hungarian sounds like shit, troll.

>>20682732
>protip, only douchebags use french words.
>and dont point out the irony of that statement

>douchebag
>point
>irony

>>20682980
>Japanese doesn't have an r sound
oh wow

>Not every accent can translate well into another language
Now you are talking about something that is completely different. And 'accents' isnt the word you are looking for 'dialects' is. We can even go as far as saying some dialects are independent languages from which they are suppose to be dialects. But that isnt what we are talking about, we are talking about standard language as seen from the international community.

Obviously you have almost no idea what you are talking about.

generally, english stands for pragmatism and practical efficiency, with emphasis on the flexibility side of things, while german is seen as a more logical language with more precise and narrow "ordinary" notions. the spread of english is through the success of capitalist expansion, while german was the dominant academic language until the recent 2 centuries.

>>20683033
LOL, no.

>>20682980
>For example, British people are exceptional at reproducing an American accent, yet it is rare to see an American who can reproduce a half decent British one.
This is what British people actually believe.

>>20683062
Mis-key but good job noticing that, i retract my statement then.

>>20683049
>>I also like Hungarian. It's quite hard to learn but it sounds awesome.
Finno-ugric languages = hell on earth with 10+ grammatical cases.

I say learning ANY language is a good thing.

Let's say you're an English speaker and you learn Japanese. You can now talk to 130 million more people that you could before. Don't try to downplay the significance of learning another language just because English is popular.

>>20682977
Ever hear of a huge comic book market, aimed at adults telling stories of everyday happenings, outside of japan?

>>20683062
>You could also at it the other way: English took all the good parts of French for itself, so there's no point in dealing with all of French anymore.

Nope, because it's still under progress, albeit at a much slower rate. French is still encroaching over English. I'm sure they'll get us, like they did with the metric system.

Look at the European online library, there are more entries in French than in all other European languages COMBINED. Those lazy-ass spend all day chatting (or writing, apparently) instead of working, and in the end it works.

>>20683066
Well, English does have some French in it, due to the Norman invasion, its really a giant clusterfuck of languages.

I think German is the sexiest language ever. Not because of the language itself, but because I can imagine some blonde, pale skinned Aryan bitch crying out for her fuhrer as my massive man-missile decimates her tranches, pounding along until I reach her bunker and obliterate her pride entirely.

>>20683033
English speaking people, when trying to speak japanese fast have a problem with distinguishing the 'i' and 'e' sound clearly.

>>20683179

I can only learn the BEST language, everything else is shit and a waste of time

french is pretty terrible. as for french encroachment, clearly a troll

>>20683179
> You can now talk to 130 million more people that you could before.

You realize you're on /a/, right? Most of the people here rarely talk at all.

>>20683190
>I'm sure they'll get us, like they did with the metric system.
>they did with the metric system.

Since when?

>>20682630
Funny because I could have sworn when I went there they ALL SPOKE ENGLISH.

>>20683190

The solution is, obviously, to start jacking more words from other languages in the same manner.

>>20682118

>Japanese

What you all don't know is Korean is far superior. It has an amazing compact writing system that is easy to learn and write, as well as decent grammar and not being tonal.

ITT: Professional linguists