You have watched to many anime in your life.

Because it is all done by Koreans.

And computers.

Basically Koreans and computers killed the industry.

cus CGs allow for a blending of styles with allows for teh creation of a uniform style

>Many years ago, every anime production had a unique look and feel to it.

wrong

OP was born in the 90s and only knows about the memorable shows from before his time, giving him a rose-colored view of the past.

You're only gonna get a few original looking shows per year, that's never changed.

>>20162206
Hey, it's that guy from that show.

During any period of time in anime production, you have the "standard" design and deviant designs, specially if you analyse by genre

>>20162278
correct, just about every boy looked the same as every other one, and every girl looked the same as every other one - which is why they started using different colored hair so at least you could tell them apart

>>20162285
Roses look nice, but I think people need to appreciate other colors.

>>20162334

Is that why we have purple hair now?

>>20162219

I have watched my share, it's true.

However, I can go back and watch something like Nadia or City Hunter and those shows still feel fresh and original. The old shit still holds together!

But since we've gotten into this generic style(it happened around 1998, or so), it seems like every show just kind of runs together.

The same themes, the same little art nuances, the same everything.

A friend of mine recently got into the manga series, I's, by Masakazu Katsura. I was familiar with his work on Devil Lady and Video Girl Ai. And the artwork in the manga is spectacular, to be expected.

Then, he picked up the OAV series based on the manga. AND IT WAS THE SAME GENERIC ANIME CRAP. It didn't resemble Katsura's artwork at all. And this has become common. The Video Girl Ai OAV's animation was beautiful and reflected his original artwork wonderfully. You don't see that type of thing anymore.

Have anime artists gotten into such a creative rut that they can't even draw anything other than what they've become accustomed to?

Obese otkau need pretty boys/moe girls in every animu or else they won't watch , animu is their escape from the real world. They need perfect looking characters with a generic personalities ( to sub the desired personality in) with the exception of standards as in the best looking guy in class going for the ugly geek girl with glasses for her personality (lol). It's wish fulfillment but for geeks rather than normalfags and you faggots make fun of Twilight , its the same shit just a different asshole.

inb4 sugoi monogatari aniki.

ITT: Bring back the golden age of cells.

>>20162285

Wouldn't that describe somebody born in the 80's? I would think that somebody who was born in the 90's would not have yet become desensitized by the onslaught of same-y anime shows. People born in the 70's and 80's are the ones who remember those older shows, people born in the 90's grew up with the so-called 'generic' anime look, so they don't mind it as much.

>>20162396
>Then, he picked up the OAV series based on the manga. AND IT WAS THE SAME GENERIC ANIME CRAP.

Have you seen the new FMA?

I'm sort of an oldfag to anime myself but I don't want to go back to those old days from "many years ago".

>>20162465

That is so true.

That reminds me of why we don't see too many anime without teenage characters anymore. I wouldn't mind anime that had strictly adults more often. Like, 30's and 40's-aged characters. With a maturely told story to go along with it.

Yeahhh

>>20162543
That's what good series like Monster are for.

>>20162538

This isn't a nostalgia topic.

This is a 'question of why we don't get a lot of variety in the way our anime looks anymore' topic.

And I think it's a good point.

>>20162465
What the fuck are you doing on this board?

>>20162593

Mann, Monster was so good.

We need more series' like THIS.

>>20162594
Might as well turn it into one

>>20162396
Anime. No matter how much its cost effective is still a work of many people.

Hence you need character models so that the animators can keep the consistency (when its not, we get off-model QUALITY, so there's that).
It also needs to be able to animate. So things are simplified and mucked around with.

Only natural that a cartoonists singular quirks can't be replicated 100% all of the time.

Its still understandable in both directions.

But in any case >>20162287 had it right. This is truth.

Sturgeons Law rules supreme.

It has been a bit worse since too many companies are wying for the same niches. But the same ammount of genuine good stuff are still around.

>>20162543
75%+ of all current(actually never mind of ALL not just current) anime has high school and/or teenagers. The most discussed subject about most anime is not the story or sub plot. It's how much you love(sexually) this character , how hot is that character , these couples are wrong , these couples are right etc... fuck it's WAY worse than power levels. It's fanservice without nudity/sex. An example of this would be the beloved Negima/FSN that /a/ adores one of the few words that can sum these series would be "harem". Another example would be Code Geass and Gundam Seed Destiny but these are aimed more for female otaku/fags rather than straight otakus.

Anime has always had 3 or 4 different styles in total.

>>20162751

Mobile Suit Gundam. Great series.

The majority of the cast was teenage. I believe the main character, Amuro was 15? And basically the whole crew of the ship was 20 or under outside of maybe one or two.

But despite this, the original series sets out to do one thing: tell a story. The characters aren't necessarily good looking or marketable...although, Char probably did set a precedent.....

But they were able to tell a story using teenaged characters without having to fall back on the usual cliches. I couldn't even begin to watch Gundam Seed. It felt like Gunda....generic bishonen-ified. Which we already had with Gundam Wing. Except now it's even MORE generic.

Casshern had quite different designs.

In fact, ALL madhouse animu have pretty unique designs.

>>20162970

Indeed.

>>20162942
You thought Seed was bad? hah you haven't seen the first of it , I dare you to endure a few episodes of Seed Destiny and maintain your sanity. Wing was not that bad at all compared to the seeds , at least they tried. In Seed every other minute there has to be a reference to how good looking this guy/girl is but most of the time it's refering to the guys especially the blue haried dude As...something can't be assed to look it up , can't believe how they managed to ruin an excellent series like Gundam.

>>20163130

I believe I saw the last 15 minutes of one of the movies at a convention last year.

I actually used to be pretty anti-Gundam Wing. I hated how it was all about the lame pretty-boy pilots and the fact that the plot was pencil-thin and difficult to follow.

However, I have mellowed out on that show pretty heavily thanks to these newer Gundam series that make Wing look like a masterpiece in comparison.

>>20162681

Yeah, but it's the animator's job to follow the model sheets that are provided for them. Older anime productions were done using large teams of different animators, and they didn't have a big problem maintaining the style.

It's true, these days character designs are streamlined to the simpleist degree to make the animator's job easier. But the result is just as cheap as the process.

American animators do the same thing. They simplify things to cut costs of labor.

And, OP, that's what has really happened with anime designs. If everything looks the same, it's because animators are trained to animate quickly and efficiently.


In short, it's done cheaper because it saves money.

>>20163484

I'm fucking saving that.

It's the truest thing I've ever seen on this board.

Especially the part about most anime fans not noticing the difference.

I've also come across people who've claimed anime like Project A-ko and Char's Counterattack looks dated and therefore bad.

That's like saying 'Chowder' is better than a Bugs Bunny cartoon for the very same reason, although I'm sure there's people that believe that shit too.

Fucking sad.

it's for the same reason that they use a similar storyline to each other: pandering otaku faggots not liking change

marginal contribution to viewership by artstyle is not worth the cost.

Actually, I think that simplifying the designs is a great thing if you really push that aspect.

Case in point: Kemonozume.

Most frames look like QUALITY, but they flow together flawlessly.

The problem is that they try to simplify it while retaining the generic structure that we grew accustomed to back in the late 80s/early 90s.

>>20163130
Gundam 00's characters were 80% adults, and by that I meant not teenagers. A lot were over 30-40 as well. And that was only for half. The last half of the episodes was 99% adults, the only kids I can think off are the little children Marina cared for in part 2.

However, I will not deny that the art style, although surely not bad, was not unique or special.

and i dont care about image quality in cartoons

its all about the

$$$monaymonaymonaymonaymonay$$$

>>20163671

wat

what. i dont care.

>>20163484
The sad thing is that I have a friend who says anything pre 1998 looks like shit, and refused to watch Gunbuster because "the animation was so bad" - and by animation he meant animation AND art.

>>20163579
I like the shading of the older series, however I like the over all change in face structure and coloring. The modern anime is better in some ways and worse in others. There are reasons other than shading for example, that make anime look dated. A large part of it is likely due to HD and better video quality, as well as better technology over all. However the changes haven't all been negative.

>>20163765

Yup. That's the misconception a lot of fans have.

Older = Worse to them, even if the animation and art quality is better.

>>20163765

And he would probably call himself an anime connaisseur if he watched the Akira movie...

>>20163801

What about anime like Hajime no Ippo? The shading is made specifically to mimic the manga.

It's only a few black lines, but it adds character while giving the animators a much easier job.

>>20163823
As a matter of fact he does, since he's seen an entire 15 series or so. Of course, all from the 00s except Bebop. I don't think he knows what Akira is.

>>20163801

The only change for the better that I can think of is that today's anime is 'cleaner' looking thanks to the switch to digital.

However, though it is cleaner to look at, the lines used to draw the characters are also very 'perfect'. And by perfect, I mean there is no little errors in animation like that found in the older stuff. And it is those little errors that often made the animation look more natural and life-like. The 'perfect' animation found in a lot of today's shows makes them look like lifeless dolls in comparison.

>>20163846

Yeah, Ippo was an example of how you CAN do a good job duplicating the look of an artist's style using the digital process.

>>20163484
Shitty old copy pasta. There has always been derivative shit and original shit. You can't raise up a few nostalgic anime next to derivative modern shit and say the industry has gone to hell. There's plenty of derivative things now, if there's more it can be credited to a higher overall volume, but there are still people out there innovating. Show anybody 5cm per second, the Zetsubo Sensei OPs or EDs, or FLCL and try to keep telling yourself that shit was only good in the 90's.

Oh, what is your opinion of shows like Gankutsuou, which use only 2 tones for skin/hair, but use textures instead of solid colors for clothes and other objects?

>>20163859

Folks like your friend are why I don't attend anime conventions anymore.

Yeah, I'm an oldfag. So kill me.

>>20163954

Have you read any of my other posts in this thread?

Hajime no Ippo has a series running RIGHT NOW.

Kemonozume was what? 2006?

Stop tl;dr'ing.

>>20163954

FLCL?

How fucking old is that show? 2001?

>>20163956
Another example of new good looking anime.

>>20163954
FLCL is almost ten years old AND it sucks too.
I liked it when I was 15.