all /a/ likes are shonen and fan service anime.

>>18397609
wat? /a/ doesn't like anime

>>18397609
a majority perhaps, but I hope from the bottom of my heart that there is atleast like 10% that has atleast tried watching stuff like this - you cant be eternally dependant on naruto and toradora lookalikes right? Tastes evolve?

boring pretending to be deep
>mindblowing
Stop pretending to find some hidden meaning where isn't any.
sage

>>18397650
I guess there really are 12 year olds on this board.
all trolling aside, I cant, for all seriousness, imagine anyone who thinks that bleach, naruto or 99% of all anime are as good as this, or as the SAC series. But then again, I guess there are people who go to Epic Movie aswell.

Ghost in the Shell 2's an apt depiction of pretentiousness. Oh, and it sucked.

Sometimes people forget, even if something was amazing. Popularity and suggestion relies on positive feedback loops.

Is that a sequel of the '95 movie, or is it related to SAC?

>>18397681
>bleach
>naruto
Those two are saged by pretty much everyone.
>SAC series
Yes, I watched both seasons. Twice. They were really nice. But no matter how you look at it Innocence is just an eyecandy.

Innocence was a pile of shit. SAC and the original movie were godly.
>Ghost in the Shell 2's an apt depiction of pretentiousness. Oh, and it sucked.
Sums it up perfectly.

>>18397694
while I might agree to a certain degree that it is pretentious - but you'll have to agree that it STILL has more story, plot and overall awesomeness then 99% of the rest.

actually, scratch that. Why would you find it pretentious? I found it accuratly depicting a certain sci fi vision, with an interesting plot. Perhaps you shouldnt go watch an anime that expects you to think about stuff, instead of shoveling it all into your eyes the second you are unsure about something?
doesnt that remind you of people who, midway in a movie, always ask " Hey, who is that?" when a new character suddenly appears on the scene? just watch it, it'll come together for fucks sakes.

>>18397601
>average visitors of /a/
>average
>average therefore stupid

If there is no desu in it, they don't talk about it.

>>18397746
>>18397730

Agreed on the fact that the original, SAC 1 & 2 and Solid State Society are all better then innocence.
I dont mean to say innocence is flawless - far from it- but still, it is miles above almost everything else - I would expect it to be named atleast a few times.
Well, compose that question on SAC then. Why isnt that named more often? It certainly is very fucking good. why dont people try it out more?

Innocence is well made both in artistic and storytelling ways, it picks up the theme of the first movie and looks at it from a different angle, of course opinions and tastes diffe- wait...

NOT ENOUGH EXPLOSIONS FOR U?!

>>18397814
See the main problem is that people go into innocence with much higher standards and it disappoints you to hell and back.

I love Toradora, Kannagi and Code Geass.

>>18397730

I disagree.

There goes your argument.

>>18397842
You're an idiot.

There goes your retort.

>>18397830
so you're telling me its expectations of a series that determines it succes? I expected nothing of toradora, so if I get a single laugh of some retarded situation it is better then going into a ciname to see innocence and expecting A FUCKING END TO ALL CINEMA and going out like " wow, that was really good. I'll definitly will be seeing that again, but imo the first movie was better".

wow, if that really is the case people are just retarded.

Innocence is one of those movies you can probably convince yourself is a good movie if you try really hard. I like to pretend they're being deep.

>>18397834
well, that's nice. I think you should go see some other anime, like for example Ghost in the Shell, perhaps when you're a bit older or have watched more anime.

Dont people want something impressive now and then? Something that makes them think, instead of lolpowerup shonen episode 613?

>>18397814

maybe cause /a/ is a bunch of elitist pricks, moeblobfans and so on...

some don't want to give away their little secret shows and think if you don't now them already, you are not worthy of asking about it (somewhat like a dragon that sits on his treasure spitting upon other lizards) and the other ones just don't give a shit, cause they are sunken into their happy place full of meganekko, pettanko and so on...

>>18397868
Look up the term "Let Down".

>>18397650

Stop pretending to be intelligent.

>>18397814

Innocence is a good feature, but definitely not as good as the original or the TV series. And there are still a lot of anime films I'd rather watch instead of it. In fact, twice is enough for me. I don't have much of a desire to watch it again. The only reason I even watched it the second time is because I forgot I'd already seen it.

Regardless of whether I liked them or not, I've gone through the following Anime:

Silent Möbius, Geneshaft, Ergo Proxy, Noein, Red Garden, Serial Experiments Lain, Betterman, Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi, Last Exile, Akira, The Vision of Escaflowne, Escaflowne (film), Elfen Lied, Blue Gender, Gatekeepers 21, Ghost in the Shell, Ghost in the Shell 2, Innocence, GintS SAC Season 1, GintS SAC Season 2, Season 1 Bleach, RahXephon, Volume 1 Naruto, Blood (film), Blood+, Nadia Secret of Blue Water, Iria: Zeiram the Animation, Record of Lodoss War, Record of Lodoss War: Chronicles of the Heroic Knight, Gad Guard, Boogiepop Phantom, Banner of the Stars, Crest of the Stars, Armitage III, Armitage: Dual Matrix, Dual! Parallel Trouble Adventure, Evangelion, End of Evangelion, R.O.D. the TV, R.O.D. (film), Cowboy Beebop and more....

I can't ever say that they've all been worth watching, but I'd like to think most of the Naruto/Bleach fans out there have seen quite a bit more than just Naruto or Bleach.

>>18397913

Is Noein good?

>>18397913
that's nice and all, and I certainly hope all those bleach fans have watched more stuff. But that becons the question - why arent they talking about it? I seriously cant imagine someone thinking Strike witches is better then gits. and yet, I see a thread with 30+ replies going " what should I watch first? strike witches or toradora?". Doesnt that make you facepalm?

>>18397949
I found it to be not as good as some people make it out to be. It has some theory about dimensions, some pretty slick animations now and then, but I'd rather watch Paranoia agent or Lain for stuff like that.

>>18397814

Define your "better".
Speaking about SAC:
Mature ? Yes.
Consistent deep plot ? Yes.
Incredibly well developed characters ? Yes.
Emotionally disturbing ? (Manly tears, FUCK YEAH, etc.) Not so much.
Fun to watch ? - Not so much.
Fun to make fun of it ? - Not so much.

Anime can't be popular on /a/ unless it meets it meets last three criteria.

>>18397956

just pretend they dunno ALREADY SAW GITS maybe you want to watch a fun show without using your brain...

>>18397975
It's a good ratio of "action" to "weird" overall, but could have been better if it'd focused on one or the other, rather than trying for both.

>>18397913
Dear god. You should watch some Toradora, seriously. Do you even know how to smile ?

I liked the film quite a bit, but it would NOT be a huge success in theatres. Much less challenging films are frequently considered too artsy for the general populace by distributors and given only small arthouse releases, often failing even by the standards they've reduced it to.

>>18398016
Have you heard of Abenobashi, ROD or Nadia?

They were all made more than five years ago. It's hard to remember that far back, I know.

Not really no.

I loved the first film, but the second film is pretty bleh. There are SO many quotes all over the place it becomes incredibly distasteful.

>>18398016
I have........ it was just already long. Hence the "and more" at the end there. As for Toradora, I just didn't find it to be all that great. It could have done without quite a few aspects, while, on the other hand, others felt like they needed more development and still more felt like it needed added in.

Overall, I kind of wish I'd never watched the amount of it I bothered to watch before stopping due to a critical case of face palming.

>>18397980
>Emotionally disturbing ? (Manly tears, FUCK YEAH, etc.) Not so much.
>SAC v bleach

oh no you le didnt. that's comparing going to a fastfood place vs the best burger in your fucking life, where you have to drive for 30 minutes to ge there.
/a/ is looking for a fast, easy, but low quality fix to the addiction?

>Fun to watch ? - Not so much.
heh. I find it fun to see stuff come together. Is that so weird? instead of seeing someone make a retarded " OH HI YOU FELL INTO THE POO" joke every episode?

>Fun to make fun of it ? - Not so much.
again, fart jokes. I guess fun can be defined in diffirent ways? like, being totally sucked in by the series? after like, the 23rd episode of sac it becomes almost impossible not to watch it till the end. That's fun for me.

I have to say the "to make fun of" aspect is your strongest argument for it not having an active presence on /a/. That shouldnt affect the mention of it in advice threads tho, or the serious discussion now and then, even if only now and then. And yet, those 2 never seem to be around.

I love Toradora, and I liked Code Geass. It doesn't make me immediately stupid. My all-time favorites are Honey and Clover, Cowboy Bebop, Umi ga Kikoeru, and Maison Ikkoku.

I didn't like Innocence as much as the first movie. The first movie was the mindblowing one, because it pioneered so many things. While the second one remained special, it no longer had novelty to assist it, so it wasn't as hard hitting, at least for me.

>>18398055
Those are fun. Honestly, my list isn't full of super serious anime. There's some light hearted stuff in there too, really, listed and otherwise.

Because.... Betterman was the height of Seriousness, as we all know. And Dual! took itself completely seriously.

>>18398016
> do you even know how to smile?

yes, thank you very much. I honestly enjoyed ( and laughed at ) haruhi, Cromartie ( fuck yeah ), black lagoon, FLCL, Pani Poni Dash ( lol referencan, but still funny), SZS.

not to mention of course that tachikoma's, although they could be more emotionally moving then funny at times.

>>18397901

>Stop pretending to be intelligent.

Intelligence? In MY /a/?

I think i've come to the conclusion.

Everyone mature enough should watch Honey and Clover.

>>18398149
I can't agree with you on Cromartie but the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and FLCL are great fun to watch. Just because I didn't list them, and again I did specify there was more to the list, doesn't mean I haven't watched them. I haven't gotten to Black Lagoon, and I don't know when I will since next on my list is Darker than Black.

>>18398208
I hate that conclusion. I think there is some factor ( perhaps even a lot ) that make some series just BETTER then another series. Plot difficulty, a story coming together and not having any ex machina ( how fitting in this thread...) kind of effects, the relationship to the reality, etc.
might be hard to realize, but I think it exists.

>>18398222
I watched it and enjoyed it.

>>18398208

that sums up /a/ pretty much

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>>18398222
The Beatings Will Continue, Until Morale Improves.

:3

>>18398089
no it doesnt make you stupid. what makes you stupid tho is spewing out those names everytime someone asks you about it. Why does noone name Texhnolyze, in weeks here? when there are people asking for a serious anime? You see Death Note mentioned 1531 times, and not even fucking ONCE Texhnolyze, which I would argue is way better.

>>18398222
>mature

is that what im searching for then? mature? are people really 15 years old here, and is that why they like bleach? Are there no mature people here?

>>18398301

Texhnolyze is very difficult. Most people just aren't interested in watching a show that isn't fun to watch.

>>18398301
People barely mention even stuff like Honey and Clover. Most of /a/ is underage, aren't really true anime fans, or just lurk around to troll - a lot don't even watch anime.

>>18398301
That's because a lot more people liked Death Note and Toradora more than Texhnolize because those two are more fun.
How can you watch Texhnolize without being bored by it. I don't get it. This is beyond me.

>>18398361
>Most people just aren't interested in watching a show that is PAIN to watch.
fix'd

>>18398366
Oh, this is going to go well.

>>18398339
No, I believe most people around here are casual anime watchers. They often watch what is popular, and only talk about mostly popular stuff. You don't expect most of /a/ to have watched stuff like Gasaraki, The Diary of Tortov Roddle, or Zipang. You just don't. I don't think they're immature; I just think they haven't really branched out yet with regard to anime. Also, I recommend those series I've mentioned. They're all unconventional, boring to a lot of people, but quite intelligent for the thinking man.

>>18398366
>>18398361

Hivemind.

I am 18398361, and I don't think that a show not being fun to watch is necessarily a bad thing. A show doesn't need to be straight entertainment just because most are. But most people aren't looking for a show that is extremely challenging and not fun at all.

I really enjoyed Texhnolyze, by the way, and recommend it often, so you're not completely alone.

>>18398389
Gasaraki is the one I recommend the least, though. Zipang and Tortov Roddle are simply amazing.

Texhnolyze is fucking amazing. I agree that the first few episodes are pretty boring but it really picks up after that.

I need to add in, Ergo Proxy has great comedy moments. The cabin fever episode where their ship was stranded, without wind ("Dead Calm/busy doing nothing") to power their ship was hilarious.

>>18398403
This is one of the reasons why I love Ga Rei Zero. It's just not straight entertainment; it just made me progressively sadder. But it's a great reflection on people placed under situations of duress and the happenstances or simple reactions that change their lives. An anime doesn't have only to be entertaining. While I can appreciate series like Sunred, I look for series that tickle the brain, at least make it think.

>>18398418
I gave up after the Mickey Mouse episode. That was so full of shit, I couldn't go on, even if I was close to finishing the series.

>>18398437
It wasn't that bad.

>>18398366
yeah, and i dont get you. how can you never watch something which makes your brain works? are you some kind of plant, which needs its daily fix of LOLFUNNAH and is totally uninterested in exploring something new? I fucking LOVE anime that makes me explore things, and fucking huge brainfucks that make you shit bricks. Texhnolyze, when I realized what the " terrorist" from the first 5-7 episodes was actually trying to do - fuck me.

>>18398418
>>18398437
well as said, it had some funny moments. it also had its fair share of weaknesses- It certainly isnt as good as SAC

>>18398437
I fucking coughed while reading your post. You watched all these crazy, nonsense anime like Texhnolize or Tortov Roddle, but you couldn't watch that episode of Ergo Proxy which had such an obvious meaning ?
I feel like I don't understand anything anymore.
Oh, and as the one who opposed during the thread I must say that I liked Ergo Proxy very much. I will never forger that episode where Vincent was teaching her how to express her emotions, "Kaze no bakayaro".

Here you go, an input from "casual naruto and bleach watcher", or is that how you call us ?

>>18398592
I also didn't like Ergo Proxy.
I understood the point of these episodes, I just found the execution to be lacking.

>>18398592
We'll most people here have never even fucking heard of texhnolyze, let alone watch it. I hope that there is atleast one guy who reads this threads and thinks about picking up GITS:SAC...

But honestly, why dont people do this by themselves? You have wikipedia, and threads like this once every 2 months or so. I remember having a talk about cyberpunk anime before this year, that was the last thread I remember that even mentioned Texhnolyze, or have a serious discussion about GITS.

PLEASE PEOPLE, WATCH SOME GOOD STUFF.

>>18398592
I can not like stuff, you know. That was just pushing it for me, and I gave up.

You'd probably like Mononoke, OP.

>>18398713
God that was so awesome. That was just so good.

>>18398713
yes I did.

>>18398713
good stuff. basically a twisted version of mushishi

I liked Red Garden.

The girls screamed like they were being raped every five seconds no matter what was going on.

What were your favorite arcs in Mononoke?

>>18398483
When I watch something I can't comprehend it feels like I am wasting my time. It makes me rage. I can't stand watching mystery anime. I couldn't even bring myself to finish more than 5 eps of Higurashi. And that show was really popular.

Good anime shouldn't make you bored at all. Good anime with deep plot should have the "deep" parts hidden under the actual, entertaining plot.
But most of the anime you people mentioned is feeding the viewer small pieces of plot it was supposed to be showing. This is ridiculous. Stalled frames with NOTHING on them, which hang for fucking minutes, in order to reduce animation costs. And here you come talking about how deep it was, how you had to put it all together. I can't help but facepalm. Seriously.

>>18398747

Noppera Bou!

>>18398747
the last 2, although I find it hard to explain why.

well then, here comes the next question to the people who have tried it but couldnt continue/ thought it was bad -

Are you still watching what you watched before? or has it had some effect on you?
to be honest, I find it truly pathetic if someone doesnt have any interest in new stuff. So, I think you should try new stuff if it comes in your way, the same goes for anime.

>>18398747
the Nue one

Someone agrees with me. I loved Umibouzu, and Nopperabou. Umibouzu was just a touching and painful truth, and Nopperabou was just so damn awesome.

>>18398853
I rewatch Honey and Clover at times. I don't rewatch most series.

>>18398747
Bakeneko in Ayakashi.

Have you all seen Angel's Egg? I've been seeding a torrent for about a week, make sure you grab it.

>>18398900
>>18398900
You're cheating, that's the best arc ever.

>>18398878

Nopperabou honestly made me cry, my mother is as bad as Chou's.

>>18397601
To OP: from a board that is masturbating on Code Geass, did you really expected good taste?
That's right, you feel stupid now, huh?

>>18398968
Code Geass S1 is better than most of the anime mentioned in this thread. Especially better than Innocence !

Innocence had too much of its screen time devoted to people standing around quoting stuff. People throw around the "pretentious" label pretty easily but I do think the movie qualifies. It tries to make you believe it has some deeper meaning through obfuscation.

>>18398837
>Good anime shouldnt be boring at all
agreed. that's why it's good. However, I simply dont find texhnolyze boring. the so called "10 minute long shots to spare animation cost"? fuck you. There is this thing called "surroundings". It makes you realize things about the surroundings. You could play an entire episode of toradora in the lucky star world, hell, even a random GITS:SAC house where a family lives. you wouldnt even notice unless you paused and went searching around the frames. The other way around? haha, no fucking way. It's part of the enviroment, and that's very fucking important in something like GITS or Texhnolyze, because it portrays a reality unlike ours. It tells more then just the story; it gives you a feel about how it is there. That's what makes something good.

>>18399014
This is what deepfags actually believe.

>>18398958
My mother isn't bad, but with all my excellence in school and all her expectations I sure feel like that sometimes.

>>18398999
trolls atleast used to try back in the days.
>>18399043
Again, you cant seriously argue that naruto is better then texhnolyze. There is a reason that Epic Movie doesnt win any oscars. you know why? its not good enough. same case here.

>>18399004

I haven't seen Innocence but that would be my criticism of GitS in general.

Or maybe that's what I WANT you to think. /deep

>>18399004

This.

>>18399086
Will you please stop mentioning generic shounen ?

>>18399043
Different people, different opinions and at last, different ways of interpreting things.

What you didn't like or didn't get, someone else might have. Accept it instead of acting like a dick. Not that it matters much as there's always going to be trolls or people that just complain for the hell of it.

>>18399089
I'll admit i wikipediat some of the qoutes. after that, I was generally "wow that really fits". then I wanted to read more from the author.

also, I dont think GITSSAC has any stand alone qoutations without an explanation, or having it VERY FUCKING CLEAR qoutes.


I dont want to say this, because its an incoming shitstorm, and the end of this thread which I certainly enjoyed...

but I might just be smarter then you.

thank you all.

>>18399111
allright. which name shall I use then? Toradora? lucky star? Elfen lied? ( inb4 sagebomber) It's just to make a point, grabbing the opposite end of the spectrum. arguments become more defined at that point

>>18399137
>be smarter then you.

First learn to write proper English before bragging emptily.

>>18399114
Thread should've ended here >>18398208
then. But still, people like >>18398248
and OP exist. Just how many times word "better" was mentioned in this thread.

>>18399172
Code Geass S1 or Toradora should be good enough.

>>18399075

I was great in school too but I was ultimately just a prop to make her look good. Plus nothing I did was good enough and she relished how upset that made me. Eventually you've just got to leave people like that or they drive you nuts.

That arc was very true to life.

>>18399193
I somewhat agree with this. I still think you can argue over taste and which one is better tho. I dont see inertia about other peoples opinions to be good for anything except isolation.

You assholes had better watch Angel's Egg.

>>18399172
>Toradora? lucky star? Elfen lied?
Judging from that fact that you put those three together it seems as if that you haven't watched any of them.

>>18399299
>the fact
fix'd

>>18399218
The revelation that the mononoke was her own self was even more damning. That series was beautiful.

>>18397601
>Innocence
>mindblowing

if by "mindblowing" you mean "eyecandy wrapped in lolDEEP pseudophilosophical bullshit with shitty storytelling and weak excuse for a plot" then yes

>>18399299
I would argue that it is evidence that I did see them all 3, since I was asking about what to replace general shonen with. It would be a really stupid answer to give 3 types of the same genre of anime, wouldnt it?

>>18398900

I just bought that, looks fucking amazing on DVD.

>>18399333

It really needs another season. Crossing my fingers here!

>>18398747
>What were your favorite arcs in Mononoke?

>>18398869
>the Nue one

fucking this. the incense arc was ridiculously atmospheric.

>>18399513
why doesnt this get the troll "this is what deepfags actually believe" reply?

I dont get it.