Give up drawing, it's your only hope.

Erase it all!

Yes, delete it.

>helpful suggestions

It's pretty good, you should become an animator.

So what exactly is bad about it?

>>14993585
Needs shading

Great job on the body. The head is the problem. It's obvious you drew a circle and went from there. Heads are more oval.
Other then that, it's really good.

>>14993629
I'll give you a tip, wait a sec.

Step 1: Learn how to fucking use guidelines. If you think you currently are, you're not.

Step 2: Draw from life. NO EXCEPTIONS. If you want to be a good anime artist, you have to know the rules of realistic art before you can deform them.

Step 3: Stop fapping to your shit and practice constantly.


For that specific picture, lower the mouth and nose. Tilt the eyes correctly. Draw some mother fucking guidelines, they help, stupid. The head is flat, the chin is too wide. Try details on the eyes, they won't kill you. Mouths aren't beaks, they have a bow-shape in between them. Draw the line that's the opening of the mouth before you even attach the lips, helps every time.

Noses aren't L's unless you think Clamp shit looks good. Consider what shape you're using for the base of the nose, then sketch it. Only outline one side of it. Consider the shape of the bridge. Only outline one part.

Anime is minimalistic, doesn't mean it's ugly.

OMG MAI EYES

>>14993585
Go back to /ic/.

>helpful suggestions

Don't ask anyone on 4chan.

>>14993668

Thanks for the (abrasive) help. I'll tweak, gimme a few mins though. I'm in oC v1.1 so I don't have tools to raise/lower/tilt.

/ic/

>>14993674
/ic/ would flay them alive. So would conceptart.

Then again, maybe they could use that.

>>14993585

That looks good, good enough to draw for naruto anime.

i drew this what does /a/ think?

its Monica from code geass as a bride

>>14993585
OP pic reminds me of this

>>14993777
/r/ all Rentonface shoops.

I saw one with Lelouch and Suzaku a while back, forgot to save it.

>>14993754
Looks pretty good

>>14993701

You're better off without tools that tilt things for you. Just start a new layer, lower the old one's opacity, and try tracing it again. The important thing is that you remember that the head had a 3-d shape, even in anime, weirdly enough. You're looking at a 2d render of a presumably 3d object. So you have to remember that there is an underlying curved shape to where the eyes are located. It's why I harp on guidelines to everyone who isn't using them right. When you break anything down into basic shapes, you make it much easier to draw.

It's cliche, and they won't get you far, but try and find J Dillon's old manga art tutorials. They're too formulaic to get you far, but if you need a starting point for anime facial anatomy, they're not bad.

my arm is broken, but maybe make the face a bit less round?
use those stick guys too, they help.

>>14993828
>>14993851

Taking this into account. Hopefully it won't look like crap- I thought it was OK, but that's because I didn't know what I was doing wrong. I'll start a new pic and hope I can do a bit better

PS, Guidelines are my weak point. I can draw them, but I can never stick to them, or they look odd or something.. Eh, you'll see

>>14993777

in yotsuba form

Draw... THIS.

>>14993585
also as a suggestion learn anatomy first faget
dont try to draw anime straightforward, you need anatomy of the human figure and lots of observation, whenever you can watch people walking or doing anything. dont focus on the action as a whole but see how does an specific part of the body works
as an example here. the arm is wrong because of the folds and shadows.

Your main problem is you're not Japanese, so it's physically impossible for you to draw anime. So just give that up now.

Now if you're going for an anime type style, you've got some work to do. But I would really just tell you to keep your own style, it's not that terrible actually. Make the head less round and move the mouth lower. Remember, even when drawing cartoons, your inspiration should be reality.

I'm busy right now, but sure, I'll help you out if the thread is still alive in about half an hour.

>>14993925
nice tits

This thread...these drawings.

>>14993851
This facial structure (the one in red to the right) is infinitely better. Now move the right eye a bit closer to the center of the face, and move the mouth down.

Don't use guidelines, draw naturally. Don't draw lips at all.

View at your own risk. I coloured an eye to kinda give you an idea of what I'm gonna be doing with it when I sketch them out, suggestions / etc please.

>>14993943
>you're not Japanese, so it's physically impossible for you to draw anime.

You should learn from this guide, OP.

>>14993937
Ouch, that arm does look broken...

I saged this already, but I have some advice to offer, OP.

/jp/ has quite a clique of drawfags, and if I recall they have an IRC channel somewhere on Rizon. They usually have live online draw sessions; you could participate in one and learn a bit/ask a bit, and not create an eye sore like your first image.

>>14994046

Doesn't matter if you sage or not. Sage has been disabled regardless.

Thanks for the tid-bit

>>14993585
Stop trying to draw googly-eyed animu women. Even if you somehow manage to NOT screw up it, it's still going to look dull and unoriginal.

Start with the more realistic approach of western art before trying to do anything even slightly stylized at all. Better yet, draw real people.

>>14994017
Anime. Animation in Japan, or Japanese animation. OP is not Japanese and does not reside or work in Japan, therefore by definition he cannot create anime. Suck a dick.

>>14994031
The face looks like it's in a lot worse shape.

>>14994012
FIRST OF ALL
draw in PAPER until you have a reasonable skill then practice with a tablet and then you can START colouring digitally

first of all learn colour theory and usage of different colour media (pencils, pastels, acrylics, airbrush) then you can understand how this things work
also observe shadows how they work and behave (as a reference see my pic above, there are bad usages of shadows in some parts, specially in clothing)

>>14994084

I don't care if it's googly eyed or not, I just want to at least have a bit of knowledge / experience / skill in the matter.

And I've done western art for ages, hence why I came to /a/ to ask for help on Anime.

>>14994089

Does it matter? Don't be so pretentious, everyone knows what I mean.

>>14994089
>OP is not Japanese and does not reside or work in Japan, therefore by definition he cannot create anime.

Great logic, man!

Also rate my doodle /a/, do your worst.

>>14994112
If you've done western art, then don't just try to start anime fresh. Convert it from what you've done in the past. If you understand how to draw a human, you can draw anime.

>>14994084
Western cartoons are just as "googly eyed". Enough of this stereotype.

can't do shit with a broken arm but maybe that helps?

>>14994133
I know what you mean, I'm just telling you you're a poser.

>>14994142
Thanks, I try to bring a little logic to shake things up around here.

Also OP, you should remember that your own body is a great example and you should take use of it whenever possible. Having a big mirror helps a lot too.

>>14994084
That pic actually doesn't look too different from anime besides the lips and boobs. Even the eyes aren't too different.

>>14994189

Helpful anon is helpful.

/ic/

>>14994084
Is half right, Half retarded.

Its true that you shouldn't start out going straight to drawing animu, but not because of the dumbass reasons stated.

Anime is a distortion of anatomy. You need to understand and know how to draw correct anatomy before you move on to distortions, otherwise it will look like shit ( Deviant art lol )

>>14994143

....is that supposed to be Kyonko?

>>14993925
Wow, that's a really original drawing.

>>14994017
> Legolas sniffing hand.jpg

wat

Are you curently working in GONZO

>>14994189

Thanks for redlining. Ouch, broken arm? What did you do?

>>14994330
What? No, me and my friend were just speculating about a game we could make and ended up making doodles of what the heroine would look like.

>>14994012
>>14994189 's points are all great. To add to them, make sure that you don't let the eye facing away from the viewer run off the side of the face. From that angle, there would still be a little bit of face between the visible edge and the eye.

As the other anon said, closing the eyelids a little is probably a good idea. With really big anime eyes, it looks very stylistically immature to leave them with big flat lids like that. You can get away with it more if they're narrower.

The problem I see with your guidelines is that they're just arbitrary lines. It's best if you put them where the eye-lids and nose belong. Otherwise they don't do as much good.

Eyes really are in the center of the head for anime, just like realism. Keep in mind with 3/4s view, with large eyes, you'll see some perspective deformation on the further away eye. It'll be as long as the other eye, but noticeably less wide. The other anon's redlining gives a good example of this.

I was unaware that we were playing the "rate our shitty drawings" game, /a/. Might as well get in late than never.

>>14994374

oC v1.1 b72, it's old but has everything that I could need and isn't heavy (About 2mb or so and has super-smooth lines and an awesome watercolour brush tool)s

>>14993585
Look, don't draw in a manga style if you're not Japanese. No-one cares about non-Japs artwork. Draw from life, and develop your own style.

>>14994302
I agree, it is very good to draw human first, it doesn't have to be a very detailed human, just so you understand what the body looks like in different position, what clothes wrinkles look like etc. I would use pictures of cosplayers to help me understand poses, bodies and lighting/shadow. I still do sometimes when I need to refresh on some things.

>>14994420

>>14994446
Are you facepalming at OC 1.1, good sir?

I would not facepalm at anything with a better linearting interfact than Photoshop that fits on a floppy.

>>14994404
Nose and mouth seem kinda HUEG, and breasts look a bit unnatural with those decorations. Neck is also quite long and those are quite manly shoulders you have there. But this is just really nitpicking, overall it looks quite pleasing, you've also succeeded in doing the hands greatly. Clothes are also great.

>>14994143
THOSE LEGS

Haven't read the rest if the thread, so what I say may be a little redundant. Okay. You did a good job on the body. That's looking fine. The problem is he head. When you're doing a more cartoonish style (I'm assuming that's what you usually draw) you can just draw an oval and go to town. For a more "manga/anime" style, you use the oval shape for the shape of the skull, and a more elongated shape for the whole face.

For the eyes, nose, and mouth, well....hmmmm, the lips stand out. You may not want to draw lips on her like that, it looks a little awkward, but it's not like it can't be done. Look at some examples of lips in a manga, and go from there. The eyes look like stereotypical old school anime eyes. Again, look at some examples of some more modern eyes, and don't try to imitate, but come up with something of your own. The nose is okay, but there is little I can say since the shape of he head is off. Be careful with your placement of the nose is all I can say. Not to far over to the side, and not too high up or too low.

As for hair, just keep practicing, and you'll get it. There's no good way to teach hair. You just have to do it. Just make sure you think of the hair as a thing with weight and mass, and don't just paste or draw it on. Think about how it comes out of the scalp and goes down.

Overall, it's good , but again, look at examples and don't try to mimic, try to incorporate it into your own style and see what you get. Can't stress the looking at examples thing enough. And lots of them. Diverse ones, too.

Hey guys, what's going on?

>>14994377
I'd rather now talk about, it was a stupid unexpected accident.

>>14994546
Not much, GArlock.

>>14994518
Oh yeah, I forgot, we're not like /co/, so we don't really help drawfags out (which is also why, unlike /co/, we barely have any drawfags), so this was not the best place to come to for help. All the same, hope you get some help.

>>14994559

Alright, I can respect your privacy.

>>14994518

Very helpful advice, thanks. I'll be practicing, but I have to go to sleep now.

>>14994546

Sorry that you got back too late, I was just about to head off. :/

>>14994574
I'm suprised this thread hasn't been trolled to oblivion, it's the OP's lucky, imo.

>>14994613
/a/'s in a helpful mood tonight. Someone just asked us to identify a picture from FUCKING HIGURASHI, and they got a serious reply within 4 replies, and then another one later.

>>14994613

I was contemplating taking all the advice and practicing on a real image and then posting horribly shitty ones to troll everyone into RAGEing because of the shitty responses at the start, but it got better so I decided not to do that.

>>14994404
Longneck is LONG

>>14994678
I can't speak for anyone else, but you were seriously taking the advice. I couldn't give you more unnecessarily abrasive advice after that.

Most of the drawfags in /a/ just want their ego stroked, and turn into raging asshats the second they get one bad comment. When people ask for help, my default setting is asshole until they prove they're not just looking for compliments.

Seeing the not so bad reception of this thread, is anyone up for some drawfag requests thread?

>>14994574
Would that be why /a/ is a shithole in comparison with /jp/?

>>14994756
Well, I do wish he would accept that he can never really draw anime. All I did was try to tell him he should develop his own style, and he went off on me with "pretentious".

Hey /a/! Rate my drawing.

>>14994764

Depends on what you want GARlock...

>>14994756
I don't see much drawfags here. Myself, I don't do manga.

>>14994780
Resize.

>>14994756

I can see where you're coming from on that. I tend to value abrasive advice as highly as gentle advice because in the end the abrasive stuff tells me what I'm doing wrong and the gentle stuff tells me what I should be doing.

fsdfds

>>14994776

Sorry about that. I do have my own style, it's just that if I don't know what I'm doing I can't exactly mould it to suit what I'm drawing. Western is fine, hell, I even made this lil character and went around on /b/ for a couple days before I got bored ("This lil character" being attached image)

>>14994797

:B

Step 1: Buy a book, I recommend >>>/rs/How+to+Draw+Manga
Step 2: Study said book
Step 3: Experiment with quick sketches
Step 4: Develop own style
Step 5: Weeaboo mango

derp

>>14994850
You don't have to know what you're doing yet. Like others have said, just try drawing (relatively) realistically for a while, as a basis.

>>14994879

Is that supposed to be you, for that is sure as hell not MC

Hey guys, am I doing it right?

Wow /a/ I must thank you. I previously thought that my anime style drawings were shit. now I feel like I am a art genius.

>>14994949
Fuck you, that's not yours.

Sauce on the real author?

>>14994919

Have been drawing cartoonishly for about a year. Maybe I should give realism a try, though I've always found faces hard to do (Hence trying to pick up Animu as a last resort to try and fix them). It even got to a point where my faces were so horrible to look at I'd just slap a dog head on the character and pass it off as 'furry' art

How can I draw better than that /a/ ?? Especially hairs, Im so bad at making hairs in just outline style >> I always feel like adding more and more beads, even draw every fucking hair.

ANYWAY, I've had a nice chat for a bit too long and I now need to sleep. *Shakes fist at 4chan*

I'll see you guys tomorrow at the same time, probably. Look out for me, ok?

plz anser thx

>>14995070
That hair's not that bad, stick with that.
It's those eyes that are JESUS CHRIST WHAT THE FUCK. Smaller, more white showing.
Nose could use more vertical definition, almost looks like just a hole in the middle of the face.
Mouth is sliiiightly too large.
And finally, lessen the emphasis on those neck lines.

>>14995070
Try to avoid adding too much detail on the hair. And don't try to draw every strand, you'll just make it look worse. Play around with it. If it's long hair you should definitely try some wacky designs. Go crazy with the flow of it.

>>14995077
>*Shakes fist at 4chan*
I smell gaiafag!

Fuck if it isn't easier to continue this while getting my tripfaggery on. Previously irritated anon who draws manshoulders and bad necks.

>>14995070

As far as the hair goes, I don't know that there's anything wrong with your current style of outlining it. You could try unifying some of the strands to make larger locks, but overall, too many anime-style artists get in a habit of drawing awful chunky plastic hair, so at least you're erring on the other side.

The suggestion I'd have for the hair is to give it more body, unless you're trying to make it look kind of flat. It looks really thin and lifeless, with more volume, and even a tiny touch of gravity-defying (short hair can and will sometimes defy gravity a little, for instance, on the bangs), it would look a lot more interesting.

For general stuff, the nose looks like it was drawn from an upwards angle, while the rest of the face doesn't, and the eyes are too close together.

This mine. Have since shited away from weeaboo style.

>>14995070

That is slightly scary. Are you trying to draw realistic or anime?

>>14995218
It has some nice details, but judging from it looks like you focus too much on detailing when your figure still needs some work. Try to work more on the figure and fix all the proportion mistakes BEFORE adding details to it.

>>14995070
Blame! meets Leeron anyone?

>>14995218
That looks more Japanese-influenced Western than weaboo. Not bad overall, I just never liked that "eyes coming through the hair look".

>>14994995
It really is mine, so I find your comment incredibly flattering. Thanks!

>>14995070
those eyes...

>>14995276
It's an old picture, but it was at the peak of my talent when I was drawing anmie like stuff. Shits wway more western influenced now. You're right though. I was always worried about drawing women.

>>14995279
I know, I didn't draw them like that for long. They just look silly.

>>14995336
Shit, I was gonna say, that's pretty good.

>>14994949
What company/studio do you work for?

As we are in the subject of drawing, how am I doing for a quick sketch?

.>>14995526
looking good until I saw the hands

>>14993585

Okay, here's my stuff. Any pointers/criticism are welcome.

>>14995526
the body is supposed to be twisted, or uneven, like she's not standing straight up, yes? even so, i think the tits are a bit exaggerated in position. they'd be closer to a straight on, but not much closer.

>>14995593
Wow, suddenly awesomeness?

>>14995526
boobs are flying sideways in different directions.

stop trying to draw animu you gigantic faggots

>>14995636
Just a red/guide -line for OP.

>>14995497
For the moment I'm doing some freelancing to get by, sitting in front of the pc the whole day... I'm living the life!

But don't forget to eat mangoes.

>>14995594
Hard to critique that, it's very cartoony, and I find the shape of the face a bit wierd. Very good for a fast and simple design though, nice how you only drew what's needed to describe the posture and the mood.

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Holy shit /a/, I thought I was on /ic/ for a goddamn second.

>>14994838
FDGHSQ

>>14995655
Let them draw what they want. What's it to you?

>>14995526
You need to work on your figure. Do some studies on anatomy. For a while try to focus just on anatomy and proportions. Leave details for when you're good at representing an accurate human figure in a matter of minutes.

Meh, tried to fix little bits, but now I drew eyes black style (which I <3) Can't change much to them :P

>>14995672
You got a site or an online portfolio?

/a/ - /ic/

You're certainly full of cancer tonight, /a/.

>>14995593
God, look at how easy that looks to draw.

ITS NOT THOUGH

>>14995853
Maybe, but it's one of the few threads not primarily consisting of troll attacks, endless memes and fucking gets.

>>14995902

It's pretty fucking easy actually, as long as you actually know how to draw.

rate my drawing /a/

>>14995593
A+++

Everything in this thread is shit.