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For texture / sound matches found in the Sonic the Hedgehog series.
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 04:12 PM
has anyone found any matches for Sonic Adventure 2? (edited)
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MtH 02-Jun-21 05:19 PM
yeah. not much of a focus but some matches here and there
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 06:17 PM
Ah alright
Since I’ve been wanting to make a HD Texture Pack for a while now
But I think I might’ve found one match
The textures in Prison Lane
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MtH 02-Jun-21 06:21 PM
dont think this is a match tbh. the floor looks clean but shiny instead of worn out like in the forrest texture
here it is used in sa1, its a bit more obvious there
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 06:29 PM
Dang
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 06:42 PM
WAIT WAIT I FOUND ONE
THE STONES IN HIDDEN BASE
It comes from this
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Sorry freaking out right now
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Stevie 02-Jun-21 07:02 PM
That’s awesome!
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 07:05 PM
Thanks!
I was able to find it through the Crazy Taxi page and thought "I wonder if SA2 & CT used the same textures at some point"
the one I hope someone finds some day are the back drops for the levels and cutscenes
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MtH 02-Jun-21 07:13 PM
oo yea weve had that one
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oo yea weve had that one
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 07:14 PM
The SA2 Backdrops?
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MtH 02-Jun-21 07:15 PM
yeahh, it was found along with the crazy taxi one by roohvalees i believe
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 07:16 PM
O:
I don't see it on the wiki
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MtH 02-Jun-21 07:16 PM
just gonna post everything in the vgtp team sa2 matches channel
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that particular one isnt in here tho cuz it was found before. might be more like that one
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 07:17 PM
Oooo
But I mean't the Skyboxes
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MtH 02-Jun-21 07:18 PM
well, theres one
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 07:18 PM
sorry should've been more clear
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I'm talking about the ones in City Escape and Green Forest for example
but it's great to know that at least there have been one finding!
for other sky boxes
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MtH 02-Jun-21 07:19 PM
this COULD be a photo taken by the devs since they were situated there, but it cant hurt to look anyway
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this COULD be a photo taken by the devs since they were situated there, but it cant hurt to look anyway
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SonicChao 02-Jun-21 07:20 PM
I didn't even think of that
though it is a good point to mention
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just gonna post everything in the vgtp team sa2 matches channel
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SonicChao 03-Jun-21 10:59 AM
Sorry I just wan to ask what is the Vgtp team?
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MtH 03-Jun-21 11:05 AM
texture research part of render96 team
basically this server but private
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SonicChao 03-Jun-21 11:19 AM
Aw gotcha
But if ever does go public please let the community know ^-^
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SonicChao 07-Jun-21 12:48 PM
Hey just was wondering what sources have been matched so far?
since it could come into good use
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MtH 07-Jun-21 02:14 PM
https://github.com/PrincessMtH/sonic-adventure-textures/wiki/List-of-identified-texture-sources
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SonicChao 07-Jun-21 02:39 PM
For adventure 2
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MtH 07-Jun-21 03:15 PM
Artbeats ReelExplosions 2, ReelFire2 (suspected) CINEMA SUPPLY Back no Tetsujin Vol.5 DesignEXchange Photo Mantan 10 Datacraft Sozaijiten Vol.5, Vol.8, Vol.13, Vol.27
& something from mixa we haven't nailed down the CD for, if there is one https://sozaijiten.net/search/detail.aspx?id=10000886 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/732795167127371786/786242422945742849/Sa2ma.png
岩肌 (10000886)：詳細情報 - 写真素材「素材辞典.NET」
「岩肌 (10000886)」の画像：写真素材のベストセラー「素材辞典」をはじめとした豊富なストックフォトから画像をダウンロードする「素材辞典.NET(ソザイジテンドット ネット)」。素材辞典シリーズから好きなタイトルを選んでまるごとダウンロードも可能です。
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SonicChao 07-Jun-21 03:32 PM
Thank you so much!
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MtH 16-Jun-21 12:08 PM
following up on this, the image appears in mixa vol. 12. there are no other proper preview pages for this volume, so i've made my own here http://file.mth.moe/mixa12.html
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 03:41 PM
Found another match for SA2
though it's for the playground which is unused
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:44 PM
nice! what's it?
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 03:45 PM
the bushes in the bottom left
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:46 PM
you mean bottom right?
those look like the same ones from SA1 which is cinemasupply yeah
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those look like the same ones from SA1 which is cinemasupply yeah
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 03:47 PM
They are slightly different
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:47 PM
yeye, but like, the same source i mean
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM
yes the same source
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM
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actually higher quality than the sa1 one..
also the sand is in SA1 as well
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM
yup
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also the sand is in SA1 as well
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 03:48 PM
Oh?
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:49 PM
https://github.com/PrincessMtH/sonic-adventure-textures/raw/main/dceu/m128_cos020.png
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cant find it but i think we have a match for it
ah yeah, HFS Stock PHOTO MATERIAL 2 STONE.2, P002001
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Stevie 17-Jun-21 03:53 PM
Holy, nice finds!
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:53 PM
the reflective maps on the bottom right are also reused from SA1, im not sure what exactly they are tho it's theorized they're actually 3d renders of the egg carrier
but they could really be anything, it's hard to tell
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Stevie 17-Jun-21 03:55 PM
It looks a screenshot of the interior (the room with two floors) taken with a wide angle. (edited)
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Planted Lewis 17-Jun-21 03:59 PM
you know. I have my suspicions that this tree texture is also a stock photo from a cd rom
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MtH 17-Jun-21 03:59 PM
definitely yeah
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Planted Lewis 17-Jun-21 04:11 PM
I mean it not like an image they just took and then just scanned into the game right? (edited)
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I mean it not like an image they just took and then just scanned into the game right? (edited)
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 05:15 PM
Prob not
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I mean it not like an image they just took and then just scanned into the game right? (edited)
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SonicChao 17-Jun-21 05:52 PM
Personally think they might've come from ImageCELs CD
Though currently it's missing
so we don't really know yet (edited)
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SonicChao 21-Jun-21 09:29 AM
Found another one! From Pyramid Cave!
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It came from CINEMA SUPPLY Back no Tetsujin Vol.5
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Speed Weed 21-Jun-21 09:38 AM
Nice find
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SonicChao 21-Jun-21 09:47 AM
Thank You!
Hopefully more matches will be found soon since it’ll a lot with HD remasters
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Lucoshi 21-Jun-21 12:09 PM
Goody! HD remastering + Cut Content = My type of cut!
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SonicChao 21-Jun-21 01:22 PM
it's something I've been (kinda) working on for fun recently
A remaster of SA2
but I'm not really that experienced with making HD (Let alone textures) for games. Sooo I've only got a few basic ones down
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Stevie 21-Jun-21 01:29 PM
Which version?
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Which version?
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SonicChao 21-Jun-21 01:46 PM
The Steam Version but the textures are based off the Dreamcast Version
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roovahlees 21-Jun-21 09:38 PM
@SonicChao I'm posting this known texture find list https://github.com/PrincessMtH/sonic-adventure-textures/wiki/Back-no-Tetsujin-Vol.5
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That match was found months ago
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SonicChao 21-Jun-21 09:39 PM
oh
but for SA2? (edited)
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roovahlees 21-Jun-21 09:40 PM
yes and that texture is also used in Crazy Taxi
But okay, there's not a list for SA2 yet ,so yeah , it's good you are finding matches (edited)
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SonicChao 21-Jun-21 09:41 PM
thanks
Personally I don't think I'm not very good at finding matches (edited)
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roovahlees 21-Jun-21 09:44 PM
The way is simple ...spend hours on searching through tons of image sets (edited)
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MtH 21-Jun-21 11:58 PM
i don't think you ever posted that match in VGTP server, might've been before we had the separate server or the sa2 channel... i do remember you found the match i think, along with crazy taxi ones
someone needs to update the render96 page for sa2
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Stevie 26-Jun-21 06:28 PM
@MtH this is from that Wraptures_CD that was posted/talked about earlier (edited)
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MtH 26-Jun-21 07:17 PM
i'll look into it, thanks!
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Fanamel 28-Jun-21 09:22 PM
Wraptures Extreme 3D - BRK09-M1
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Sonic X-treme (edited)
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Wraptures Extreme 3D - BRK09-M1
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SonicChao 28-Jun-21 11:08 PM
OH?
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OH?
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Fanamel 28-Jun-21 11:21 PM
There's a few more matches in X-treme, turns out Wraptures is one of the earlier CD's Sega had
http://scp.webulate.com/textures/Sc1.htm
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SonicChao 28-Jun-21 11:29 PM
I wonder if Chris knows more what other textures came from a CD. Most likely no but who knows.
Also congratulations on finding the match!
Seriously though how do you all do it?
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Fanamel 28-Jun-21 11:33 PM
Would be interesting to see if he remembers any of this and how Sega provided them with the images
and thank ya. I just dug through X-treme because of Adventure having a match. All it took was comparing the images real quick based off that. They aren't too edited so it was quick to spot
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Would be interesting to see if he remembers any of this and how Sega provided them with the images
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SonicChao 28-Jun-21 11:54 PM
He does have a LinkedIn page but idk if that would be the most appropriate place to ask since it’s mostly used for jobs
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SonicChao 29-Jun-21 04:35 AM
Also Idk if sound matches count and I think most people know about this one but Sonic Chronicles uses quite a few stock sound effects though I haven't been able to find the OG source
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Wraptures Extreme 3D - BRK09-M1
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Stevie 02-Jul-21 12:34 AM
This is also in 3DWORLD_1_Textures
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SonicChao 05-Jul-21 02:07 PM
I might’ve found some assets used in Sonic Advance
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The problem is I didn't save the link
I do know it came from DesignEXchange
Though it looks like the website might be down
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MtH 05-Jul-21 02:15 PM
i think these are all a bit too different, and i don't see why they would've taken them from there tbh
but they are in a similar style for sure
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SonicChao 05-Jul-21 02:36 PM
I'll double check once the website starts working
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SonicChao 11-Jul-21 04:35 PM
Just wanted to ask if anyone just so happen to stumble across this texture before please let me know
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MtH 11-Jul-21 04:36 PM
this is from SA2 right?
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SonicChao 11-Jul-21 04:38 PM
yes
been searching all over for
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SonicChao 07-Aug-21 12:47 PM
https://twitter.com/Sonikko06/status/1423764933037199370?s=20
Author icon Sonikko 🐦 (@Sonikko06)
So, one would assume the textures for WV in M&S 2012 were the same from SA1, right? But wrong, they actually borrowed from the original assets, which means SEGA still has them. A SA1 remaster is totally possible, most likely, they just thought the XBLA release was enough
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MtH 07-Aug-21 01:36 PM
replied to this https://twitter.com/MtH13208/status/1424105459712147457
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SonicChao 07-Aug-21 02:31 PM
I found another match used in the Biolizard Fight!
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Both these are from Sozaijiten Vol.1 the same as SA1
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MtH 07-Aug-21 02:36 PM
first is from vol.8, actually
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first is from vol.8, actually
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SonicChao 07-Aug-21 02:37 PM
oh thank you
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SonicChao 17-Aug-21 11:25 AM
one of the leafs used in Chao Garden
https://www.bigstockphoto.com/image-1420469/stock-photo-special-leaf
Stock Photo By German Cheung
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SonicChao 17-Aug-21 11:55 AM
https://www.bigstockphoto.com/image-1420440/stock-photo-special-leaf
Stock Photo By German Cheung
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SonicChao 18-Aug-21 02:23 PM
Though I can't tell if this is the exact same image since I couldn't find any source or just it ripped from sa2 but I thought I'd might post it here
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SonicChao 19-Aug-21 10:31 AM
nvm I'm dumb https://twitter.com/Miexriir/status/981204863118819333?s=20
Author icon Michal (@Miexriir)
All images of Earth in Sonic Adventure 2 are edited versions of “The Blue Marble” photo the Apollo 17 crew took in 1972 Meaning Shadow the Hedgehog canonically lives on our planet and has NO excuse to not be my friend
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roovahlees 26-Aug-21 02:48 AM
Cinema Supply Vol. 10 , IMG0040
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Sonic Adventure 2 - Meteor Herd , Crazy Gadget (edited)
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@SonicChao
Soza Vol. 8 , SH173 (edited)
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Sonic adventure 2 - Hero race (edited)
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Sonic Adventure 2 - Meteor Herd , Crazy Gadget (edited)
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SonicChao 26-Aug-21 08:53 AM
That’s one I’ve been looking for thank you!
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SonicChao 31-Aug-21 01:58 PM
I found out where the leaves came from http://www.sozaijiten.com/cdrom/sozaijiten.asp?pc=HR-SJ13&n=200
sozaijiten.com - 素材辞典 Vol.13 〈葉・葉脈編〉 収録画像一覧
素材辞典 Vol.13 〈葉・葉脈編〉の写真一覧です。ブナ、カエデ、ナナカマドなど新緑から紅葉までの葉・葉脈の写真を収録。
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I found out where the leaves came from http://www.sozaijiten.com/cdrom/sozaijiten.asp?pc=HR-SJ13&n=200
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mario60bore 31-Aug-21 05:01 PM
good job dude
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I found out where the leaves came from http://www.sozaijiten.com/cdrom/sozaijiten.asp?pc=HR-SJ13&n=200
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Stevie 31-Aug-21 07:40 PM
That’s awesome, this is for the chao garden trees?
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That’s awesome, this is for the chao garden trees?
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SonicChao 31-Aug-21 09:42 PM
yee
the ones I posted earlier
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SonicChao 04-Sep-21 02:33 PM
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Vol.21 <Space / Planets> SV027
Final Rush
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mario60bore 04-Sep-21 02:56 PM
@SonicChao do you ever think sega ever used photo albums for their textures
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@SonicChao do you ever think sega ever used photo albums for their textures
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SonicChao 04-Sep-21 02:57 PM
I don't really know
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I don't really know
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mario60bore 04-Sep-21 03:03 PM
it's worth doing research on because if capcom used a photo album for re4 then id say its possible that sega did the same
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