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22 September 1998
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA                :     INDICTMENT

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WADIH EL HAGE,                          :     98 Cr.   (  )
  a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur,"
  a/k/a "Norman,"                       :

                    Defendant.          :

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  COUNTS ONE THROUGH EIGHT: PERJURY BEFORE FEDERAL GRAND JURIES

          The Grand Jury charges:

                           Background       

          1.   Beginning in 1996, the United States Attorney for

the Southern District of New York and teh Federal Bureau of

Investigation, working with a number of other federal, state and

local agencies, initiated a Grand Jury investigation into Usama Bin

Laden and the involvement of his organization (known as "al Qaeda")

in international terrorism.  The Grand Jury investigation included,

among other things, the issuance of Grand Jury subpoenas calling

for witnesses to testify before a Grand Jury sitting in the

Southern District of New YOrk and to produce documents to the Grand

Jury.  By September 1997, the Grand Jury investigation focused, in

part, upon:  (i)  the structure and operational status of the

terrorist organization headed by Usama Bin Laden and known as "al

Qaeda" (meaning "the BAse"), in countries including the Sudan,

Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, Somalia, Eritrea, Afghanistan,

Pakistan, Bosnia, Croatia, Algeria, Tunisia, Lebanon, the

Philippines, Tajikistan, Chechnya, Kashmir and Azerbaijan, as well

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as in Kenya and teh united States; (ii) the targets of al Qaeda's terrorist activities, including American interests, worldwide; (iii) the relationship between WADIH EL HAGE and teh al Qaeda organization, including its leader Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda's later military commander known as "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri" and current military commander "Abu Hafs al Masry." 2. It was material to the Grand Jury sitting in the southern District of New York to ascertain, among other things: a. the tactical goals, and corresponding terrorism targets, of Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda; b. the identities, code names, aliases and whereabouts of any al Qaeda members and associates; c. the names of persons with whom WADIH EL HAGE associated while living in the Sudan and kenya and while travelling in Pakistan and Afghanistan. d. the nature and extent of WADIH EL HAGE's contacts with Usama Bin Laden, Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri and Abu Hafs al Masry, particularly in the period from 1993 through the fall of 1997; e. the role played by Usama Bin Laden and the members and associates of the al Qaeda organization, particularly to include WADIH EL HAGE, Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri and Abu Hafs al Masry, in the provision of logistical support and training to the persons who attacked the United States and United Nations forces in Somalia in 1993 and teh early part of 1994; f. whether Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri was working in 2
Kenya and Tanzania on behalf of Usama Bin Laden and al Qaeda during the time preceding his frowning death in Lake Victoria in the summer of 1996; g. the particular reason for the travels of Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri at the time of his drowning death in the summer of 1996; h. the nature of the work conducted by Harun Fashl, the deputy of WADIH EL HAGE, in Kenya and whether Harun Fazhl was working for Usama Bin Laden; and i. whether WADIH EL HAGE was still working for Usama Bin Laden's al Qaeda organization in 1997. 3. On or about September 24, 1997, WADIH EL HAGE a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, was served with a Grand Jury subpoena calling for him to testify before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern district of New York. 4. On or about September 24, 1997, after taking an oath to testify truthfully, after being advised of his constitutional rights and after being advised that if he failed to testify truthfully he could be prosecuted for perjury, WADIH EL HAGE a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, testified before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York. 5. Following the appearance of WADIH EL HAGE before the Grand Jury in September 1997, the Grand Jury investigation continued and continues through the date of this Indictment. By the time of September, 1998, the Grand Jury investigation was focused on matters outlined above and other matters that had 3
become of interest since the time of EL HAGE's 1997 Grand Jury appearance, including, but not limited to: )i) the February 1998 fatwah singed by Usama Bin Laden and others under the banner of the "International Islamic Front for Jihad on the Jews and Crusaders," stating that Muslims should kill American -- including civilians - - anywhere in the world they can be found; (ii) subsequent televised threats issued by Usama Bin Laden in May 1998 that his group did not distinguish between military and civilian personnel; (iii) the August 7, 1998, bombing of the United States Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya, which resulted in the deaths of more than 250 persons, including 12 Americans and the wounding of more than 5000 people; (iv) the nearly simultaneous August 7, 1998, bombing of the United States Embassy in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, which resulted in the death of 11 persons; (v) the meaning of certain documents recovered in searches conducted in Nairobi, Kenya, in August 1998, following the bombings, which bore the name and code name of WADIH EL HAGE, as well as the code names for other al Qaeda members and associates; and (vi) the extent to which WADIH EL HAGE's international travels concerned efforts to procure chemical weapons and their components on behalf of Usama Bin Laden. 6. In addition to the matters recited in paragraph 2 above, it was material to the Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York to ascertain, among other things: a. the identities, code names, aliases and whereabouts of al Qaeda members and associates referred to in certain seized documents, including "Norman," "Abu Suliman," 4
"Tayseer" (or "Taysir"), "Adel Habib," "Jalal" and "the Dr."; b. the efforts of WADIH EL HAGE to obtain chemical weapons and/or their components at various times in the 1990's; c. the nature and extent of contacts by WADIH EL HAGE with Harun Fazhl and Mohamed Sadeek Odeh in the period leading up to the bombing of the United States embassies; and d. the nature and extent of WADIH EL HAGE's contacts with al Qaeda members and associates since the time of his last grand jury appearance. 7. On or about September 15, 1998, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, was served with a Grand Jury subpoena calling for him to testify further before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York. 8. On or about September 16, 1998, after taking an oath to testify truthfully, after being advised of his constitutional rights and after being advised that if he failed to testify truthfully he could be prosecuted for perjury, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, testified before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York. COUNT ONE: Statutory Allegation 9. on or about September 24, 1997, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary 5
to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave the following underlined testimony: (a) Q. Now, when was the last time you saw Abu Ubaidah Banshiri? A. In Sudan before I left. Q. 1994 before you left? A. Yes. Q. Do you know where he is today? A. Either in Sudan or in Afghanistan. * * * (b) Q. Did you look for Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri when you went to Lake Victoria in the summer of 1996? A. No. (c) Q. Did anyone tell you Abu Ubaidah had drowned in that ferry accident? A. No. (d) Q. No one ever told you at any time that Abu Ubaidah drown in the summer of 1996? A. No. (e) Q. To this day has anyone ever told you from any sources that Abu Ubaidah was killed in that boat in the summer 1996 when it sank at Lake Victoria? A. Nobody told me. * * * (f) Q. But just so we are clear, before whatever conversation the FBI had with you yesterday, you had never heard from anyone or seen on any TV show or read in any newspaper that Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri had drowned in the ferry accident in the summer of 1996? A. No. Never. 6
(g) Q. And you were not sent to that lake to try to find Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri? A. No. I went looking for Adel Habib. * * * (h) Q. My question was, did you ever discuss with him, Haroun, whether or not al Banshiri drowned in Lake Victoria. A. No. (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1623.) COUNT TWO: Statutory Allegation 10. on or about September 24, l998, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave the following underlined testimony: (a) Q. When did you hear Al Qaida began to target the United States? A. In the latest interview with Usama Bin Laden, CNN. Q. Approximately how long ago did you see Bin Laden state CNN that the United States was now the target? A. When I came back to Nairobi about three weeks ago. * * * Q. Had you ever heard Usama Bin Laden state that the American forces should be attacked, prior to seeing it on CNN television? A. No, never. 7
(b) Q. You are positive? A. Yes. (c) Q. You are swearing that under oath, under the penalties of perjury -- strike the word swear. You are stating that under oath, under the penalties of perjury, that prior to hearing it on CNN you had not heard Usama Bin Laden declare that America should be attacked? A. Yes. Never heard that before. (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1623.) COUNT THREE: Statutory Allegation 11. On or about September 16, l998, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave the following underlined testimony concerning a photograph of Mohamed Sadeek Odeh: (a) Q. And I'll show you Grand Jury Exhibit 5 from September 10th of 1998 and ask whether you recognize the person depicted in Grand Jury exhibit 5? A. I've seen this picture on TV. Q. You've seen this picture on the TV? A. Yes. Q. How recently did you see it on the TV? A. Two or three weeks ago. Q. Have you ever seen this person in person? 8
A. No. I have never seen him in person. * * * (b) Q. Who is Mohamed Oudeh? A. I don't know. * * * (c) Q. Do you recognize Grand Jury Exhibit 5 as Mohamed Odeh? A. I have never seen this person before. * * * (d) Q. Is it your testimony to this Grand Jury under oath that you've never met this person depicted in Grand Jury Exhibit 5 in your entire life? A. I don't recall meeting him at all. * * * (e) Q. As you sit here today, you're telling this Grand Jury have no recollection of the person depicted in Grand Exhibit 5? A. Yes. sir. I don't. (f) Q. You have no recollection? A. Right. (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1623.) COUNT FOUR: Statutory Allegation 12. On or about September 16, 1998, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave 9
the following underlined testimony: (a) Q. Let me ask you another name. Norman, N-O-R-M-A-N. Do you know who Norman is? And I'll write it out even though it's just -- so there's no confusion of the spelling, N-o-r-m-a-n. A. No. * * * (b) Q. Have you ever been called Norman? A. No. * * * (c) Q. Let me write out one more name. Wa'da Norman, W-a, apostrophe, d-a Norman, N-o-r-m-a-n. Who is that? A. I don't know. * * * (d) Q. Who is Wa'da Norman' A. I don't know. (e) Q. Is it you? A. No. * * * (f) Q. Are you still telling this Grand Jury that you're not known as Norman or Wa'da Norman? A. Yes. I'm not Norman. * * * (g) Q. Have you ever written any letters and signed them with the name Norman at the bottom? A. No, never. (Title 18, United States Code, section 1623.) COUNT FIVE: Statutory Allegation 13. On or about September 16, 1998, in the Southern 10
District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he have the following underlined testimony: (a) Q. Do you know of any other "Jalal"'s besides the fellow in Louisiana? A. No. * * * (b) Q. How many people in Kenya did you know that personally knew Usama Bin Laden? A. People who knew Usama Bin Laden in Kenya, nobody. You mean know him personally, right? Q. People who knew him personally had met with personally? A. No. I don't remember anyone who did. * * * (c) Q. Did you know any members of al Qaeda who lived in either Kenya or Tanzania? A. No. (d) Q. Did you know any members of al Qaeda who ever visited Kenya or Tanzania? A. No. * * * e) Q. Are you familiar with a person by the name of Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri? And I'll write it on [Grand Jury Exhibit] 66 so if my pronunciation is off it doesn't confuse. Do you know the person by the name of Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri? 11
A. Yes. Q. Was he a person who worked for Usama Bin Laden? A. Yes. Q. Did he ever visit Nairobi or Kenya -- I'm sorry, Kenya or Tanzania? A. I don't think so. * * * (e) Q. Does Adel Habib have another name? A. Not that I know of. (f) Q. Isn't Adel Habib known as Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri? A. Not that I know of. * * * (g) Q. And did you tell people that you had to go to Lake Victoria to find out whether or not Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri had really drowned? A. Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri was not there. (h) Q. How do you know? A. Well, I never knew that he was there. * * * (i) Q. Wasn't Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri also known as Jalal? A. I never heard that. (j) Q. Didn't you also hear that Adel Habib was also known as Jalal, J-a-l-a-l? A. No. Q. So your testimony is that you've never heard that Abu Ubaidah was known by the nickname or alias as J-a-l-a-l, correct? A. Correct. Q. You've never heard that Adel Habib was known by the 12
nickname Jalal, J-a-l-a-l, is that your testimony? A. Right. * * * (k) Q. And it's your testimony under oath to this Grand Jury that you were never told that the person that drowned was Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri? A. Never. (l) Q. And you were never told that the person that drowned was also known as Jalal? A. Never. (Title 18, United states Code, Section 1623.) COUNT SIX: Statutory Allegation 14. On or about September 16, 1998, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave the following underlined testimony: Q. Have you ever heard him called the H-a-j-j, have you heard of Usama Bin Laden referred to as the Hajj? A. No. (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1623.) COUNT SEVEN: Statutory Allegation 15. On or about September 16, 1998, in the Southern 13
District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave the following underlined testimony: (a) Q. And it says "Dear Abu Suliman" at the top. Do you know who Abu Suliman is? A. No. * * * (b) Q. Now, in this letter written to Abu Suliman, apparently by Harun, do you know who Abu suliman is? A. No. * * * (c) Q. It says Abu Suliman, okay. Do you know Abu Suliman? A. No. (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1623.) COUNT EIGHT: Statutory Allegation 16. On or about September 16, 1998, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, having taken an oath to testify truthfully in a proceeding before a Grand Jury sitting in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully, knowingly, and contrary to such oath, did make false material declarations, to wit, he gave the following underlined testimony: 14
(a) Q. Continuing on. The middle where it says, "Tayseer and his friends are still hiking and they enjoy it very much." Is Tayseer a reference to Abu Hafs al Masry, one of the military commanders for Usama Bin Laden, yes or no? A. I don't know. * * * (b) Q. Okay. When this letter was written by Harun to Abu Suliman, he's telling people that you have taken a trip with Taysir. Where did you go and who was Taysir? A. I don't know what he's talking about. * * * (c) Q. Do you have any idea as you sit here today who Taysir might be? A. I can't recall. * * * (d) Q. As you sit here today, it remains your testimony that have no idea who Taysir is? A. I have no idea, no. (Title 18, United states Code, Section 1623.) COUNT NINE: FALSE STATEMENTS The Grand Jury further charges: 17. On or about September 23, 1997, in the Southern District of New York, WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," a/k/a "Norman," the defendant, in a matter within the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the government, to wit, a criminal investigation based in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully and knowingly, did make materially false statements and representations, to wit, the defendant falsely 15
stated to a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he had never heard that "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri" had died and that he believed that "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri" was then alive and well and living in Afghanistan with Usama Bin Laden when in truth and fact WADI EL HAGE knew that "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri had died in Kenya in 1996. (Title 18, United States Code, Section 1001.) COUNT TEN: FALSE STATEMENTS The Grand Jury further charges; 18. On or about October 17, 1997, in Arlington, Texas WADIH EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," the defendant, in a matter within the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the government, to wit, a criminal investigation based in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully and knowingly, did make materially false statements and representations, to wit, the defendant falsely stated to a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he had never heard that "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri," a military commander for Usama Bin Laden, had died when in truth and fact WADI EL HAGE knew that "Abu Ubaidah al Banshiri" had died in Kenya in 1996. (Title 18, United States Code, section 10001.) COUNT ELEVEN: FALSE STATEMENTS 19. On or about August 20, 1998, in Dallas, Texas, and Arlington, Texas, outside the Southern District of New York, WADI 16
EL HAGE, a/k/a "Abdus Sabbur," the defendant, in a matter within the jurisdiction of the executive branch of the government, to wit, a criminal investigation based in the Southern District of New York, unlawfully, willfully and knowingly, did make materially false statements and representations, to wit, the defendant falsely stated to a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation that he did not know Mohamed Sadeek Odeh and did not recognize his photograph when in truth and fact EL HAGE knew Mohamed Sadeek Odeh. (Title 18, United states Code, section 1001.) [Blank] [Signature] _________________________ _____________________________ FOREPERSON MARY JO WHITE United states Attorney 17 [End indictment]

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