Roger Lier talks about sightings/possible abductions in Simi Valley. Chris Wyatt (TV producer) plays stuff from Bob Lazar. Plays clip from former astronaut Gordon Cooper. Cooper says we should have sent manned mission to Mars because there may be remnants of a human civilation there, including POSSIBLE SURVIVORS. Explosive speculation from a former US astronaut. Michael Lindemann reports on Greer "briefing" with former CIA director James Woolsey. Reads letter Woolsey and another researcher present told him to publish in CNI News (Lindemann's excellent bi-weekly email UFO news report-- www.cninews.com). Letter claims he mistook an informal dinner at the researcher's house for an official briefing. Reads response from Greer which includes letter from researcher that set up the meeting in question. Letter contains unmistakeable language that this is *not* just an ordinary dinner by any means. Lindemann goes on to report that KPFA (www.kpfa.org-- the station that pioneered public and talk radio, and one of the last truly independant listener-supported stations in the US. Also see www.savepacifica.net) reporter Leslie Kean (www.flashpoints.net) is investigating the UFO subject. At a recent San Francisco UFO conference Kean was talking with former NATO intelligence commander Robert O. Dean about researcher Steven Greer's Project Starlight, a program that had gathered over a hundred former highly placed corporate and governmental witnesses in hopes of getting an oficial congressional investigation started. Dean praised Greer's efforts highly to Kean, who noticed several "intellectual white male types" standing around listening with great interest. She reports that later, after her conversation with Dean, they cornered her and all started telling her that Greer was prone to exaggeration and had grossly exaggerated his story abouyt the meeting with director Wooslsey and the other UFO researcher. The interesting thing is, they were adamently claiming that he had exaggerated the meeting in precisely the way that Woolsey himself claimed in the LATER letter to Greer. Hmmmmm.... dreamquake@pon.net