INMATE DAVIS: About 10:30 in the morning. Charlie came to a group of us and told us that Shorty had – is either working for the police or going to them. Some way in there he’s a threat. He’s a threat.

CHAIRMAN WAY: Working for the police?

INMATE DAVIS: That Shorty was either working for the police or going to work for the police against us. That was kind of the picture, I think. And so he told ex and me and Clem – well, mainly Tex. He said “So you take care of that. Just take Shorty for a ride.” Some of us got in car, and Tex was in the front seat with Shorty.

MR. BAKES: Who was driving the car?

INMATE DAVIS: Shorty was driving. So we drown down --

MR. BAKES: This is Tex Watson?

INMATE DAVIS: Yeah, so we drove down the hill and --

MR. BAKES: Where were you at this point?

INMATE DAVIS: Well, we started from the Spahn Ranch. We were going down the road toward San Fernando Valley, and Tex stabbed Shorty. Well, first we pulled the car over. He said, “Pull over here.” So we pulled over, and they pulled him out of the car, and they took him down the bank. Well, I got out of the back – I was in the back seat.

BOARD MEMBER SIDES: Who said to pull over?

INMATE DAVIS: Tex told Shorty, who was driving, to pull over.

MR. BAKES: Is this an open area? Is it a residential area? What kind of area is it?

INMATE DAVIS: No it’s not. There’s underbrush and scrub, and it’s a hill coming like this, and the road is going this way, so there’s a bank over here and a bank here. So were going along like this. So he told Shorty to pull over to the right-hand side of the road. He pulled him out of the car.

MR. BAKES: Did he stab him before he pulled him out?

INMATE DAVIS: Well, yes. I didn’t actually see that but I could hear the sound of stabbing, over and over again. I was – the back seat was between us, but I would assume he must have.