From nobody@REPLAY.COM Sun May 17 03:50:54 1998 Path: spln!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 12:50:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <199805171050.MAA18195@basement.replay.com> Subject: FZ BIBLE 2/2 ROLE OF EARTH From: nobody@REPLAY.COM (Anonymous) Organization: Replay Associates, L.L.P. X-001: Replay may or may not approve of the content of this posting X-002: Report misuse of this automated service to X-URL: http://www.replay.com/remailer/ Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology,alt.clearing.technology Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Lines: 648 Xref: spln alt.religion.scientology:301013 alt.clearing.technology:38591 FREEZONE BIBLE ASSOCIATION TECH POST TRANSCRIPT OF THE ROLE OF EARTH TAPE PART 2/2 Our purpose is to promote religious freedom and the Scientology Religion by spreading the Scientology Tech across the internet. 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Thank You, The FZ Bible Association ************************************************** Portions marked > are on the old reel but were omitted from the R&D transcript. These match the omissions previously posted by pilot and we have confirmed them against the older reel-to-reel version that was available in the early 1970s. THE ROLE OF EARTH Dated Nov 1952 in R&D Volumes and 30 Oct 52 on old reels. 5210C30A SOP8A (SOP lectures number 8A). ************************************************** (continued from part 1/2) But you see, you can't be sure exactly what you've got your hands on. And just because I have told you this story, and just because I've mentioned such stories to you (as somebody with a body in pawn for ten thousand years and being monitored and sent all over the place and that sort of thing) is no reason why you should tell it to your preclear. But it gives you a line on what to ask, just a slight lead of question. You say, "Where did it happen?" He could say Kentucky or Sussex, but he normally won't. He'll say Mars, Venus, or he'll give you some planetary name you never heard of. You've got to audit these ridges through to get rid of these ridges if you're going to treat the body. But you understand that when we're working with this sort of thing, we are, to a large degree, treating the body. And this is a question of who the hell cares! You're treating a body. Bodies are a nickel a million. If you only knew it, any one of you here, any one of you, could pick himself up the line and go out and pick up any body you see go by. This person is going to die someday; pull him out, pat him on the head and say, "Tsk, Mars" - whhit! They go. I mean, it sounds very horrible to you, doesn't it! It sounds like a terrible violation of private rights. That's because you've decided upon a much higher level of action. And yet, what do you know! It happens every once in a while. It happens. You could do this. Now, if you are out of your body and stable, and if your preclear is out of his body and stable, the point I'm trying to make is that you have escaped from and stepped sideways from the liability of sudden body shock. If you have done this, all by itself, so that the body can be hurt and so on regardless of the state of knowingness, regardless of the ability to put out energy, regardless of any other of these abilities - you have achieved a knowing immortality for your preclear, or for yourself. You have stepped, actually, out of the line of stimulus-response and being the victim on all of this sort of thing, and of course it makes a tremendous difference to a person. You'd never realize how widely one's values change on such a thing. Because it just doesn't matter how many bodies would kick the bucket. It doesn't matter, you would come up shining on the matter. You want to perfect that skill, because it's the only thing that ever got you in trouble. See, you were unable to stay outside of bodies when they were given a sudden shock or when they were hurt. So get up through the command range on a body; don't stay down along the other level, and actually, what you've bought is an immortality. So your body gets knocked off, so what? Very few people have a viewpoint, even when they've been out of their bodies, developed up to the level that it should be. I'm going to give you today some very vital data on this because I've seen that there are two or three points which have not been clearly grasped. And in view of that, why, let's get the data to clearly grasp them, Now, I don't care - you can say I'm telling you fairy tales about this sort of thing or something; we won't worry about the credulity or incredulity of the data. Don't force this data on your preclear! Because if you force it on your preclear, you'll throw something into violent restimulation that you'll be sorry for. But if you find your preclear is having an awful time over something or other in some zone of his body, let's say, some entity is stuck on the time track in that zone and it might be one of the reasons why he can't get out of his body. And if you're going in for the business of cleaning up bodies, you've got to be able to resolve the problem of entities. And you resolve the problem of entity by finding out where this entity is located in the body and then finding out where it's stuck on the time track, and you will find a death or a transplant or something of the sort occurring at that point. You ask the thetan, the individual, to sort of move into that area and move through that incident and bring that entity up to present time. Now, he has a tendency to give the entities complete credit for beingness, and the entities don't have beingness; they react to passing energy. The energy goes out from the individual through the entity, and the energy comes out from the environment and goes to the individual and passes through the entity. So the environment can restimulate the entity, the preclear can restimulate this entity, you see? And your preclear looks at this and wonders why in the name of common sense he acts that way. It's because when he puts out energy in that direction, that entity, stimulus-response-wise, that ridge goes into effect. And he has no accounting for the fact, because he didn't put anything into effect. And when somebody scolds him suddenly or something of the sort, he's perfectly willing to bite their head off, but instead of that he feels scared to death. Why? This is unaccountable. So he begins to believe there's something wrong with him. And the truth of the matter is there isn't anything wrong with him. That's the truth. The only thing you could say would be wrong with him is he's - has a lot of ridges around him which have facsimiles on them. And these ridges can be thrown into restimulation, and then he stands there and watches this. So, you see, it's a mystery to him. So he begins to think after a while, "I must be nuts!" No. He's saying, "Yeah, I've got some ..." There isn't any such thing as a sane entity because there's no such thing as a sane stimulus-response activity. But don't think your entity can't think. It can think. It has a certain low order of beingness, not alive - it's running on the thetan's energy, you see. But because of associative nature of energy and other things, it can think, it can act. You can talk to an entity and have it talk back to you and so on. You can throw the attention of the thetan around the body so as to restimulate the entities, one after the other. But you do this like this: Now you say "All right, now this right outboard entity, now I'm talking to this right outboard entity, so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so." And this preclear will say, "It says so-and-so and so-and-so." And you could say, "Do you like ice cream!" And he says, "No, it says it doesn't like ice cream." What you've done, you see, is take the thetan's energy beam and you've thrown it out here onto this ridge, because you said the right outside, didn't you! So that's direct stimulus-response. It's just a ridge and there it sits, and you throw the thetan's energy at it and your energy is going at it; don't omit that point! You're restimulating it, you've got a beam on it and he's got a beam on it, and so of course it'll talk. Cute, very, very humorous mechanism, actually, but people seldom feel like laughing, because they can make a man feel like he's being torn to bits. You talk about fear, and you talk about agony and being pinned down and all the rest of this, this is on these darn ridges. Now, you're looking at - what I've been describing here - you're looking at the reactive mind. You're not just looking at something that's vaguely like the reactive mind of the first book; you're looking at the reactive mind. The first book could be said to be a description of ridges and the behavior of ridges. If you want to know a lot more about how outrageously ridges can behave and so forth, just read about the reactive mind in Book One, and that is actually the ridge. That's the ridge's behavior. So the reactive mind has geographical locations in the body, is found to be energy ridges on which facsimiles have been affixed. And the stimulus-response character of them causes very, very aberrated behavior. They have an associative quality; that is to say, they're this absurd logic that's "one thing mirror another thing" and so forth. But they're down closer to an identity, A=A=A=A, than they are to thinking, really. And that's the way you tell what this thing is: it's reasoning on a A=A=A=A. You can actually ask an entity certain questions and it will give you identity responses. Korzybski. Korzybski, in his tremendous piece of work there, was trying madly to differentiate over, above, around, under, alongside of - and for God's sakes, let's do something about - this A=A=A=A of an electronic ridge to which facsimiles are affixed. Now, you want to know routes out of this trouble, how you get away from this trouble, he points out a route. His route, however... Although Hayakawag and some of the boys in general semantics believe there's a therapy involved in it, there isn't. You can train and train and train and train and train, when you're training into differentiation, and all you're doing is training in a secondary circuit response. The fellow starts to identify, and then he gets very carerful and differentiates. Well now, he's got a circuit set up that differentiates what he started to identify. And of course, all you're doing, really, is giving a lot of credit to some ridge. You're giving the ridge credit of beingness, and the guy will get worse, he won't get better. So watch crediting ridges! That's true, isn't it! Female Voice: Yes. You've watched that happen. Female uoice: Preclear got worse when you audited ridges. That's right. So, if you must be concerned with the body - The thetan, when he moves out, will generally leave the bulk of these ridges in the body. If he moves out knowingly, he just leaves these ridges, and these ridges are sitting in the body and so on. But he has built them up and he's carried them around and he's pulled them in and he's done these various things with them; he's finally fixed this body with a great many ridges. But these ridges have a very strict pattern, they have a very strict behavior, and this outrageous story I have been telling you about space stations and all that sort of thing is very muchly responsible for the state and action - the weird, insane character - of these darn ridges today. Now, you're going to find preclears once in a while who will start giving you messages. Of course, they're on a communication line, why shouldn't they give you messages! Some guard has been walking past some cell where there's a body in pawn, and all of a sudden this body stirs. Bodies are not supposed to do that. So he says, "Oh-oh, somebody just died." But then it doesn't stir the way a body stirs when it just died. He'll say, "Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah, somebody is monkeying around." Probably a few years ago they said, "Oh, some damn hypnotist. Nobody will believe him anyway." They didn't do too much about it. But that's not been the case here in the last year or so. They've been fascinated! And they're just about as helpless as babies in diapers, because they've got a holding operation. They're guilty of tremendous overt acts themselves; they have no method of attack; they have been influencing via the mind for so long that they've actually lost their initiative to do anything else. And if anybody was going to do anything to Earth on a violent side, or anybody was going to do anything to people on a violent side, it would be somebody like the Fifth Force. But the Fifth Force has completely opposite interest in Earth; it does not want to do anything to Earth. If anything is protecting Earth at this time, it's the Fifth Force people. But isn't it strange that you will find the Fifth Force people occasionally have a body in pawn here! You'll find an occasional body in pawn from the Fifth Force. And when you do, when you do, it'll be a different proposition, because it's monitored by consent; the guy is here with a comm line set up. And he's almost in a state of knowingness concerning exactly where he came from and what he's doing. It's a different proposition entirely. You have the difference between a young, ambitious race, you might say, and an old, decayed, caved-in race, and the two just don't mesh. They don't fight on the same battleground or anything. So there's no active concept involved here of battle or action beyond this insidious action through the mind. We all of a sudden find Russia and the United States going to War. Why? Silly, huh! Everything would militate in favor of peace, and yet the most insane things will suddenly happen. Some joker in the US will sudden!v order all the ships into port at Pearl Harbor. Suddenly, inexplicably. And then fix it up so that none of the messages to warn Pearl Harbor get there. Insists on putting them all in top-secret code. Here, are telephones lying all over the place. Pick up the telephone and say, "Hey, we just got word there were a couple of Japanese aircraft carriers standing right off Pearl Harbor, and I know we told you all to go into port there in the last three days and secure for an admiral's inspection, and take all the ammunition out of your magazine and put it below with the ready boxes and that sort of thing. But, you know, there's a little danger here of a fight starting and just a few hours ago you sunk a Japanese submarine right outside the harbor, and how about snapping and popping and getting on the ball there. And you probably ought to be able to put the ammunition back in the ready boxes, and maybe a few of those ships get out of port just in case, just in case. Oh, no. No, no. Ha-ha. No. We'll go and find the admirals and the generals, and we'll find they're all at parties. So we'll have a conference with them tomorrow, and then tomorrow, tomorrow we'll put it all in code that takes about two hours to encode, and then it'll have to be two hours to decode, and we'll get that word of warning to Pearl Harbor at 10:00 A.M. Pearl Harbor time Sunday. Mm-hm, how do things like this happen! The men that did those, if stood up and asked bluntly where their loyalty and what their actions were and intentions, you would find out that they were completely sincere in their jobs, just completely sincere. I mean, they intended to do the very best they could for people and nations and everything else. But all of a sudden, from some quarter, in sails one of these wild ones, one of these terrifically wild tidbits of business that you just say "Huh, can't exist!" Well, the human race will shadowbox with this for a long time if it remains the human race. It'll keep on doing this. So don't expect that your preclear will be able to explain completely some of his actions during his lifetime - little actions. It's wonderful what small minds can think of as worthy goals - very small minds. As far as the Martian operation is concerned - ha! I mean, let's all go out and play hopscotch - something real serious. A bunch of old, fat boobs sitting around in the dirt, playing big, important games. But they're playing an important game which runs an insidious line, and a therapist all of a sudden encounters - because he's trying to make somebody sane - he finds as long (and you will find as long) as you dodge away from this and say, "it doesn't exist" and that sort of thing, that you're going to find a certain number of cases that you aren't going to be able to do anything for. That's just inevitable. Now, if you want to do something for those extra cases, those additional cases, why, just remember some of this data which you had in the course books and remember some of the data I'm giving you now and you might say to yourself, "Oh no, my God, not that!" and solve the case. Well, I didn't mean to talk very long-windedly on that subject. I'm sorry, it happens to be something in which I'm interested - as curiosa, of course, strictly - and it's something, if you've got good sense, you won't talk about much out in public. Female uoice: We'ue really lost nearly all our friends anyway! (audience laughter) Oh yes, you have, huh? That's all right. Our real refuge, as far as friends and communication is concerned, is really us. I mean, our refuge is us! Now - oh, by the way, a lot of speculation goes around. Every once in a blue moon, I'11 pull some kind of a gag off; I pulled one a little while ago. I didn't pull it intentionally. I say, "Yes, I knew her commanding officer." That happens to be true, but it doesn't mean that I have - let me make my position very clear - that I have any ax to grind" with regard to this. I don't have. I'm not part of this fight. It's just something that you take a look at and you say, "Oh, no!" And then you get interested, and you get rather partisan about the thing as far as your sentiments are concerned. But it's the partisan of watching a bright, new operation and watching an old, dead operation, and watching an awful lot of beings being terribly unhappy and awfully mucked up and all fouled up like fire drill. For what reason! It's a weird, beautiful reason: So that a planet which could get along very nicely is just running off the rails all the time. I mean, nobody can get anything going on this planet, 1 mean, not - nobody's supposed to get together, and so on. What benefit is it to anybody! The funny part of it is, it has no benefit! It is in the line of a terrible habit, as far as the Fourth Invader Force is concerned. Now, as you go around, you will find there's machinery stuck out here, a lot of it. Just chase your pc around in various directions and the next thing you know, he's going to say, "There's lines going here and there's lines going there, and there's a big machine sitting over here and there's other machines sitting there, and there's..." and so on. Well, don't let him monkey with them too much. Those are Fourth Invader Force machines. This whole area of this end of the galaxy is booby-trapped. And those machines are bearcats, some of them, to turn off. And although they may look like they're very easy to turn off, it's something like "the picture." The Germans used to use this as a booby trap. They'd put a picture slightly askew over a fireplace or something in a bombed cottage or something, you see! And your own troops would come in, and somebody couldn't resist straightening up the picture! And of course it was trapped, and it would blow up and blow everybody up in the room. They had to straighten up the picture. Now, actually, you have no great interest in these machines, because they can't do very much one way or the other. And the truth of the matter was, if you were to hand a map to the Fifth Invader of some of these machines that you'd found, and that sort of thing, he'd be only too happy to send a cruiser, something of the sort, and blow them off the map. But it'd take a few mega-mega-megavolts to do very much to these machines. Now, you'll find occasionally a sickness will set in on a preclear a very short time after he's been on one of these excursions. That's because he's hit an antipathetic wave which is rigged to be a nice wave. So don't let your preclear sit around and listen to beautiful music, or something of the sort. That's a theta trap. Don't let him go around - he says, "Oh, you know, there's the most gorgeous looking temple or something! I keep going over there and looking at this beautiful temple, and..." And you say, "Wait a minute, What's it look like!" "Oh, it's just gorgeous! The most beautiful architecture." You say, "Come home now," And he ... "Well, I - let me, let me ..." "No, come home now." Because all of a sudden your preclear is going to be in, appetite over tin cup," into a theta trap. Theta traps are trapped ordinarily with aesthetics. The other type of trap is a mechanical trap which has a matching wavelength in its construction. It's a post or something, and the thetan throws a beam - he's just passing through the area and all of a sudden something echos at his wavelength. And the next thing you know, he thinks somebody he knows is over there and he goes over to look. And then the second he tries to get off of it, the more energy he puts out, the more active the trap becomes. There's no energy in the trap but the energy the thetan himself is putting into it. And he'll stay on these things for God knows how long. Those are types of traps. As far as a thetan being very badly implanted is concerned, how can you implant an energy unit! That's an interesting question: How can you implant an energy unit! It's a question in which you should be awfully interested. Because you can't! You can give it some ridges, but it can always move out from amongst these ridges. You have to get it to agree and change its mind about something. And once it's agreed on something of the sort, why then it's possible for it to be in a state which keeps on holding on to ridges. So the most important thing you can do with a thetan is Postulate Processing, not ridge-throwing-around and the rest of it. I've said this before and I wish to point it up and punch it up now: postulates! postulates! You can take any preclear you know and take - run from bottom to top of a scale (that scale I gave you many weeks ago) just to change one's postulates. And if you keep this up, you just keep this up, you go on this way, he'll get better and better and better and better and better. But we have, in all of these wild pitches, a terrific amount of coversion. It's very covert, all of this overtness toward beings. It hasto be, because you cannot actually aberrate permanently an energy unit. You cannot kill it. All you can get it to do is change its mind - that is to say, alter its postulates, its concept of beingness. You can get it to alter its concept of beingness, really. And if you can get it to alter its concept of beingness, then it'll keep on holding these silly ridges all around itself with facsimiles on them. And the ridges keep going into stimulus-response. And because your thetan did not know the mechanism - he actually lacked knowledge of it - he couldn't beat it. He couldn't beat this game, so he'd stay at a low level. Now, possessing knowledge of this is not really the same thing as being a Theta Clear. I wish to impress that upon you. > Let me give you the example of my boy Nibs, L Ron Hubbard junior. > Interesting thing. He's a rather nice kid. Rather standard > hot rod American kid. Perfect sense of irresponsibility. A nice > kid. His friends all liked him. That's what you judge a kid by. > He got along well with people and that sort of thing. > > But he had practically no goals. Nothing to look forward to or > anything. Standard young American today being picked up by the draft > and shoved here and shoved there. > > Alright. He had 7 hours total processing up to stable outside of his > body and so forth. That was in the course of about 36 hours. He > completely change his attitudes, personality, and so forth. He got a > terrific sense of responsibility. He was reaching back and picking > up pieces of knowledge of this sort and that sort and fitting them > together and getting himself an education off the track. > > He was going around trying to help other guys out. He was doing this > and doing that. He was a guy you really would care to know all of a > sudden, not just this kid. Fantastic change. > > He went along for a little while. And he thought he was very savy > now. He was perfectly satisfied that he had reached a state of > knowingness where he could cope with things. > > I (alight?) upon him not too long ago and boy that boy had been having > to burn the midnight oil and the morning oil and the afternoon oil in > trying to catch up with the knowledge of book one (DMSMH), the > course books, Scientce of Survival, Self Analysis, and so forth just > so he could live. > > You get the idea. Just so he could stay up in state." This knowledge is vital; it's an education which one has to have to remain this wise, see, because if you don't know about this, and you don't know about that, and don't know about something or other... It was NOT KNOWING about this and about that and about something or other that made it possible for any of you to be tricked into something in the first place. See, it's just not knowing this data, which is fascinating to you. You should say, "Yes, if you get a guy up to a high state of knowingness, he should know all of this." I refer you to Science of Survival, the theory of enturbulation of theta with MEST and then its disenturbulation again. That is data of the MEST universe which is being gained. Your potentiality of knowingness goes way high, but this does not mean that data goes that high. > To remain stable ... Nibs is doing a terrific job right now. > > By the way, he is just starting in to teach a theta clearing course > in Phoenix as of today and he's using the tapes which you heard and > stuff I've written him in letters and so forth. > > And everybody was having a very hard time with it in the states one > way or the other and they're making it the hard way. And he was very > interested in getting the show on the road. > > He wanted to come over here very despritely, very badly. And he was > all booked and he had his boat passage and his passport. And then > time was running short and he was going to pick up an airplane and > come over here and he was going to do anything. > > And he finally phoned me up on the telephone and he says "Aren't you > going to let me come over there". And I kept telling him that the > operation in Phoenix was in very very great need of his services. > And he finally buckeled down and he's running that operation. He's > eighteen. > > And of all the guys anywhere in that vicinity, there's just two > people that I would trust a great deal. One of them is old Alphia > Heart who is the hardest boiled soft-hearted character you ever saw > (laughter). A great guy. And the other one's Nibs. Just fantastic. > > You don't know American youth. but you know how irresponsible some > British youth is. Just as a strata of (ir)responsibility. Well > now, if you multiply it by about a hundred, you've got American youth > today. > > And all of a sudden we've got a man. a very responsible man. Quite > interesting. > > By the way, his attitude toward me is very very interesting. It > might be an interesting little datum you might like to know about. > He used to look on me rather resentfully and so on because, you see, > during the years he was growing up and so on, I was off to the wars > and off on expiditions and here and there and I wasn't home and his > home life blew up pretty much and so on. So he ... (Recording ends abruptly) **************************************************